Tablighi Jamaat is in a no-lose situation. If no one gets coronavirus at this gathering, it’s a sign of Allah’s protection of the Muslims. If coronavirus does spread there, it’s because Muslims have sinned, and need to be more pious, and so need to attend more such gatherings. This is the same kind of cycle that leads to jihad activity: when something goes right in your life, it’s Allah’s blessing, and you need to show your gratitude by doing what Muhammad called the greatest deed Muslims could perform: jihad. And if you’ve sinned, you can try to get back into Allah’s good graces by waging jihad.
“Thousands of Muslim pilgrims ignore virus risk to gather in Indonesia,” by Agustinus Beo Da Costa and A. Ananthalakshmi, Reuters, March 18, 2020:
JAKARTA/KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) – Thousands of Muslim pilgrims from across Asia gathered in Indonesia on Wednesday, despite fears that their meeting could fuel the spread of a coronavirus, just two weeks after a similar event in Malaysia caused more than 500 infections.
Organisers and regional officials said the event in the world’s fourth most populous nation had begun, although the regional police chief said he was making a last ditch-effort to persuade organisers to call it off.
“We are more afraid of God,” one of the organisers, Mustari Bahranuddin, told Reuters, when asked about the risk of participants spreading the virus at the event in Gowa in Indonesia’s province of South Sulawesi.
“Because everyone’s human, we fear illnesses, death,” he said. “But there’s something more to the body, which is our soul.”
Organisers had rejected a formal request from authorities to postpone the gathering, said a regional official, Arifuddin Saeni.
He estimated that 8,695 people had already assembled in Gowa, near the provincial city of Makassar, adding that the numbers would make it hard to put a halt to the proceedings.
“They are still coming,” he said. “There are people from Thailand, Arabia, India and the Philippines.”
The Malaysian event, held from February 27 to March 1, drew 16,000 followers.
Both gatherings in Indonesia and Malaysia were organised by members of Tablighi Jama’at, a global movement of evangelical Muslims that promotes proselytising, known as dakwah….
Promotional material for the Indonesian gathering reviewed by Reuters read, “The pleasure of living in this world is only a little, compared to the afterlife.”
Mural says
“The pleasure of living in this world is only a little, compared to the afterlife.”
— This is the fundamental problem : Rest of Humanity want to live; these folks prefer to die.
Savvy Kafir says
What fools! Gambling with the one & only life they’re ever going to get, for a non-existent afterlife.
mortimer says
Yes, SK, that is a good comparison to gambling. The optimistic gambler always believes he is on the verge of a breakthrough stroke of luck. Most of them ruin themselves and their families financially.
Robert Spencer has written a brilliant description of this OVER-OPTIMISTIC assessment of jihad in the minds of the Muslim fanatic.
Muslims interpret every event as a sign that Allah wants MORE JIHAD, rather than less.
This is cultism at its worst … they are gambling not only with their own lives, but with the lives of millions of other Muslims.
I predict Indonesians will soon be infected with the corona virus EXPONENTIALLY because of such OVER-OPTIMISTIC IDEATION as mentioned above, caused by Islamic self-hypnosis.
Islam will suffer a great defeat as more scientifically-minded Muslims realize most of their mullahs are 7th-century idiots.
Artemis says
That’s what they want then shall they be allowed to full fill their wish. Honestly there will be less population, & that speaks worldwide for any1 that does the same disrespecting themselves. They distespect themselves they disrespect their god
Amar says
That’s what they say now. As soon as some of them get sick, they will riot to get access to scarce ventilators. Taking away health resources from kafirs who’d like to live.
william carr says
I do not know whether to laugh at them or pity them. What idiots but let us face it many Christians think the same way. There is a total absence of evidence that there is any ‘after life’ and certainly
not the one forecast in the quran which is mainly for the pleasure of men
Mural says
The pleasure of living in this world is only a little, compared to the afterlife.”
— This is the fundamental problem. Rest of Humanity want to live. These folks want to die in their quest for afterlife.
Mural says
Kindly delete. Duplicate post.
mortimer says
Yes, Mural. The slogan of the jihadist is “We love death.”
CogitoErgoSum says
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. — Matthew 6:6
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
Priests pray a lot, are supposed to be closer to “god” than regular people…and their( imaginary) God rewards them by making them rape little girls AND boys…sick god they have eh?
James Lincoln says
Politicallyincorrectistruth,
Ah, yes. The Catholic priest problem…
But the behavior that you have cited totally goes against the teachings of Christianity.
gravenimage says
True, James.
But not against the teachings of Islam.
CogitoErgoSum says
Where do you find anywhere in Christian teaching that God will reward a person for raping a little child? Take a look at Matthew 18:1-6. This tells me just the opposite of what you said. Does your “god” reward you for spreading lies?
Buraq says
Here’s a golden opportunity for some psy-ops strategy.
Spread the rumor that Muslims resist testing for Covid-19, that they gather in dangerously large numbers for religious reasons, and that there are, therefore, 1.7 billion biological time-bombs around the world waiting to explode.
The moral: Stay far away from Muslims, Mosques and anything connected with Islam — if you want to stay healthy!
mortimer says
The greatest health risk in Islam is first-cousin marriage and uncle-niece marriage. The second risk is unhygienic halal meat.
Wellington says
Idiots.
Westman says
Ignorance reinforced by ritual dumbing down?
The other God who likes to be worshiped, out of fear, is the God of North Korea. It’s astounding that Muslims cannot perceive that Islam is a fabricated system that empowers parasitic clerics to manipulate their lives.
somehistory says
If no infidels have any contact with these moslims, then the only ones to get the virus will be moslims. Do not allow them to leave for two weeks.
Our Creator wants us to use “reason” and common sense…gifts He gave us…in making decisions about where to go and what to do, and when. One does not need to be in such large groups to show their faith in Him.
Having fellow feeling for others, will cause one to not put others at risk unnecessarily.
moslims don’t know “reason, common sense, or fellow feeling.”
“Every good gift and every perfect present,’ comes from our Creator. Death and destruction comes from His enemy and ours, satan the devil.
Tony Stark says
Thanks Buraq, but there’s no need for the ‘dark arts’ when Mr. Spencer has taught us the truth:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/03/muslim-hardliners-refusing-medical-help-may-expose-non-muslims-to-covid-19-for-their-beliefs
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/03/iran-closure-of-shiite-pilgrimage-sites-over-coronavirus-prompts-sit-ins-and-protests
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/03/germany-muslim-migrants-riot-display-islamic-state-flag-at-asylum-center-over-coronavirus-quarantine
Thank you, Mr. Spencer, for your heroic defence of Western Civilization. May the Good Lord Above bless & protect you in your work! May the Theotokos assist you with her prayers, along with the prayers of St. Michael, St. John the Apostle, St. Paul, St. Basil, St. Gregory, St. George, St. Nicholas, & St. Robert Bellarmine, & St. Joan of Arc.
Emilie Green says
This is Trial by Ordeal, on a large scale,
Trial by ordeal was an ancient judicial practice by which the guilt or innocence of the accused was determined by subjecting them to a painful, or at least an unpleasant, usually dangerous experience. The test was one of life or death, and the proof of innocence was survival. In some cases, the accused was considered innocent if they escaped injury or if their injuries healed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_by_ordeal
Rarely says
What evil leadership.
FYI says
“We are more afraid of allah”
No wonder as allah doesn’t permit Final Penitence..
“The forgiveness is not for those who do ill-deeds ,until ,when death attendeth upon one of them he saith “Lo!I repent now”: nor yet for those who die while they are disbelievers.For such WE have prepared a painful doom”
Koran 4:18
This is 100% at odds with the Biblical God who of course permits Final Penitence.
So muslims must live in constant fear of allah condemning them to “a painful doom”.
allah doesn’t accept final penitence from muslims:but this is the same ARAB god who sends muslim women to hell{Sahih Mulim 241} for the terrible sin of being… ‘ungrateful'{Takfurna}
And “disbelievers”{Jews and Christians} are condemned anyway{even if they repent!}for not submitting to allah.But then they are “the WORST of created beings” koran 98:6.So non-muslims are not forgiven since they are non-muslims.
Thus it is clear that allah the merciful is in fact allah the UNMERCIFUL god;allah condemns Jews and Christians for being “disbelievers” and will not accept final penitence from a muslim.allah discriminates against Jews and Christians and all non-muslims.
allah:the great Sultan in the Sky
allah:the diabolus simius Dei
allah:the greatest of all deceivers {koran 3:54}
Mr. Cohen says
NY-based Muslim-Brotherhood Activist
Vows to Infect Others with Corona Virus:
https://clarionproject.org/ny-brotherhood-activist-vows-to-infect-others-with-corona/
PRCS says
While Islam’s teachings are ridiculous, and the Indonesian gathering defies logic, let’s not pretend they’re the only idiots in this worldwide pandemic.
‘,If we die, we die for Christ’:
Florida megachurch pastor encourages congregation to keep coming to service
https://www.alternet.org/2020/03/if-we-die-we-die-for-christ-florida-megachurch-pastor-encourages-congregation-to-keep-coming-to-service/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3967
CogitoErgoSum says
What did Jesus say when Satan told Him He could jump from the heights of the temple because angels would bear Him up? These people are putting God to the test and need to go home and pray this sickness passes them by … and not risk spreading disease needlessly through their presumptive arrogance.
PRCS says
That you think I would know what Jesus said to Satan is itself presumptive.
Many JW posters are–like myself–atheists.
Muslims are not the only idiots in this global pandemic. Christians, Hindus–and likely others–are also guilty.
CogitoErgoSum says
Asking a question is presumptive? Does being an atheist mean that you have never read the Bible or that you can’t do a simple search of the internet to find an answer? Even so, my next sentence after the question I posed contained the answer.
By the way, I’m not a Muslim but I have read the Koran. Or is that something else you refuse to read because you are an atheist?
PRCS says
THAT question was unequivocally presumptive.
CogitoErgoSum says
How?
FYI says
muhammed{PBUH,Poison Be the Undoing of Him} himself put allah to the Test when he ate poisoned meat which he KNEW was poisoned presuming that allah would save him.But allah didn’t save him from the consequences.
muhammed:I shall now eat this..
Leg of Roast meat:Don’t eat it mo!It is poisoned!
muhammed:meh..allah will surely save me from its effects.Indeed it is delicious,lovingly prepared for me by an enslaved Jewish woman whose family I massacred.allah will protect me.
Years-YEARS- of agony followed for Perfect mo, eventually he dies from its effects.
allah;Why did you eat that meat if you KNEW it was poisoned?I warned you!You moron.
mo:when?
allah:The roast leg of meat?That was me.
mo:Oh I thought I was just hallucinating:I get fits a lot.
allah:what stupidity is this?
YHWH:what a putz!Moses wouldn’t fall for that..but then unlike your muhammed,Moses was a True prophet.
tim gallagher says
Well, the Muslim concept of what god is like, this vile creature Muhammad dreamed up, allah, does seem to mostly be about instilling fear in people (no love in this Mohammedan version of what god is supposed by be like), so I guess they would be fearing allah more than anything else. I can’t help but hope that plenty of these clowns ( they are all infected with that far more dangerous Koranovirus anyway) do pass the coronavirus on to one another. I don’t think any of us should be getting around fearing death all the time and being ultra cautious, but, from what is said in the report above, these Muslims really don’t seem to value life at all. Their attitude seems very negative.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
They’re more afraid of Allah. Makes sense, cuz if they die of the Wuhan Plague they’ll be deemed Jihadists (because American Devils surely concocted the plague, not their new partners the Chinese as Trump alleges) and they’ll get their thrones in Islam porno heaven Jannat.
Carol the 1st says
History repeats itself! And the muslim Tatars were apparently the first to use biological weaponry at the Seige of Caffa in 1345! They were attacking their fellow slave traders in the Crimea – the Christian Genoese over brooding resentments and the killing of a muslim. A plague came with them however, and it came from all their dealings with the SILK ROAD from China (lots of rats). Due to severe illness they had to stop the big revenge and negotiate instead, but it seems they’d viciously thrown many diseased corpses over the ramparts and the people of Caffa also became infected. Many Genoese wasted no time in leaving Caffa and headed back to Italy and all over Europe thus helping spread the BLACK/BUBONIC PLAGUE. Dead bodies in Italy were “piled up in shallow graves like lasagna”. There were other infected slave ships and caravans leaving the region but the Seige of Caffa is undoubtedly one of the sources of a plague that broke out all over Europe.
Google:
A rough estimate is that 25 million people in Europe died from plague during the Black Death. The population of western Europe did not again reach its pre-1348 level until the beginning of the 16th century.
TKF says
Islam or Corona……which virus is worse? I give the edge to Islam. One day we’ll have a vaccine against Corona. No one has yet developed a vaccine or a cure for Islam, which has plagued the world for 14 centuries and counting. If only Corona could wipe out only Muslims. Now that would be a virus I could get behind.
Lenny Leaps In says
So many bums near faces (refer to picture). I wonder if the virus can be spread by farting. Maybe the Corona virus can get rid of Islam. If it does – fantastic.
Carol the 1st says
We have to be extra careful about good hand washing after using the toilet (and if anyone is sick use Lysol after you flush if you only have one toilet). The virus travels by droplets and aerosols – the latter by six to ten feet. I think that’s the answer.
MrLogical says
What a GREAT story!
Finally, some good news!
Susan Stavros says
Mr John Spencer, thank you for the great work you have been doing bringing the truth about the Muslims and their demonic ideologies. The Greeks and others suffered at their hands, you are truly doing Gods work. Thank you.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Susan.
Just one small point–the person who runs this important site is Robert Spencer, not John.
Goofy says
Can the Muslims never get their narrative straight? Here we read that the Corona virus infection would signify Allah’s displeasure with the infected. Other Muslim scholars claim that dying from the Corona virus will make you a martyr. Which one is it?
Carol the 1st says
You’re only a “martyr” if you take a kafir with you. That’s why suicide bombing is one of their favorite sports.
OLD GUY says
They keep this up they will run out of virgins.
gravenimage says
I think there’s been a virgin shortage for a while now…
Goofy says
The event was called off but only after all the participants having congregated at the site if the event. So the virus might still have caused contagion.