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UK: New film has non-Muslims drag Muslim family from home and murder them as non-Muslim neighbors watch approvingly

Mar 21, 2020 5:00 pm By Robert Spencer

Riz Ahmed’s new film is lurid and trashy victimhood fantasy porn that non-Muslim Leftists in Britain will lap up eagerly and cry for more. But its intent is even more insidious than to reinforce feelings of grievance and entitlement among Muslims in Britain. Note what this article says about the attitudes and assumptions that led Ahmed to craft his exercise in industrial-strength self-pity: “The Independent claimed in 2019 to have uncovered evidence that Islamophobia is ‘thriving in all parts of British society’. It cited statistics suggesting that 31 per cent of the population believe that Islam poses a threat to the British way of life, and only 32 per cent believe that Islam and the British way of life are compatible.” As Luke Gittos quite rightly points out, “these numbers do not reveal widespread anti-Muslim bigotry. For instance, 41 per cent of those who suggest that Islam and Western life are incompatible believe that ‘Islam breeds intolerance for free speech and calls for violent actions against those who mock, criticise or depict the religion in ways they believe are offensive’. This is not reflective of a generalised hatred of Muslims. Rather, it expresses concern about the impact of certain sections of Islam on important aspects of Western life.”

That’s what this movie is for: it is an attempt to foreclose upon any discussion about “the impact of certain sections of Islam on important aspects of Western life,” ruling out such discussions a priori as “racist,” “bigoted,” and “Islamophobic.” Thus no one will be able to whisper a word about the advancing jihad threat; doing so will be labeled “hate” and outlawed accordingly. This initiative is already well advanced. There is already an immense stigma surrounding those who call attention to the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat: the Left is wholly on board with Riz Ahmed’s assumptions in The Long Goodbye, and the Right is as weak and cowed as ever, anxious to avoid the labels the Left has ready for anyone who dares to step out of line and commit Wrongthink. When I am silenced entirely and this site is unavailable, and everyone is marching together into the glorious multicultural future without distraction from “Islamophobes,” and yet for some reason the jihad massacres keep happening, I hope you will remember when you read this and how you got from living in a free society to the open-air gulag you’ll be living in at that point.

“No, Britain is not on the verge of anti-Muslim pogroms,” by Luke Gittos, Spiked, March 18, 2020:

Musician and actor Riz Ahmed’s new short film, The Long Goodbye, has been released to accompany his new album of the same name. The film depicts an Asian family – in the midst of preparing for a wedding – being dragged from their homes and executed.

The killers are a gang of armed white men who arrive in a black van. The police, also white, stand by and do nothing. The family’s white neighbours then watch from their window as the Asian family members are shot in the head. The film ends with Ahmed rapping about how he doesn’t feel at home in the UK. The message? Presumably that Ahmed’s own feelings of disillusionment is rooted in his foreknowledge of an impending fascist slide in British society.

The film has already received much acclaim. He gave an interview to Radio 4 in which he argued that there are many people in Britain who would not consider him to be British. When asked whether racial divides are more pronounced in America than in the UK, he replied ‘pick your poison’. In other words, British Muslims are in a comparable position to blacks in the US. Or possibly worse. The Holocaust also came up in the interview.

Art should be provocative. It should challenge preconceived ideas and received wisdom. But Ahmed’s film reinforces received wisdom. After all, most of his luvvie Guardianista fans lap up the idea that Britain is a racist hellhole. He is one of a growing number of young creatives who receive almost unqualified veneration for producing work that presents the working classes of Britain – depicted here as armed white thugs – as being on the cusp of fascism.

Now, art has often been a powerful vehicle to make political points about racism and state violence. Many have compared Ahmed’s short film to MIA’s video for ‘Born Free’, in which ginger-haired people are violently rounded up by the state. But MIA used ginger-haired people to highlight the real-life plight of the Tamils in Sri Lanka. Art will always be a vehicle to portray injustices that are actually occurring in the world.

But this is not what The Long Goodbye is about. Ahmed’s film seeks to trade off the message that British Muslims are in a comparable position to European Jews prior to the Holocaust. This is the message of his film. His own feelings about ‘not being at home’ in Britain, which may be explained by the fact that he spends a lot of time making films in the US, is somehow reflective of the precarious situation all British Muslims apparently find themselves in.

It is worth asking why there is such a significant audience for Ahmed’s brand of massacre porn. Of course, art does not have to be moral, nor does it have to reflect or speak to reality. It has no responsibility to be politically coherent or even politically persuasive. It should be judged on its artistic merit. But this is difficult in the case of The Long Goodbye, because the sole point of it is to deliver a message – to wake people up to the fact that British Muslims are at risk of being massacred in Britain by mass state-sponsored racial violence, meted out by the white working class.

But of course British Muslims are not at risk of being massacred in Britain. Consider the evidence regarding Islamophobia in Britain. The Independent claimed in 2019 to have uncovered evidence that Islamophobia is ‘thriving in all parts of British society’. It cited statistics suggesting that 31 per cent of the population believe that Islam poses a threat to the British way of life, and only 32 per cent believe that Islam and the British way of life are compatible.

But these numbers do not reveal widespread anti-Muslim bigotry. For instance, 41 per cent of those who suggest that Islam and Western life are incompatible believe that ‘Islam breeds intolerance for free speech and calls for violent actions against those who mock, criticise or depict the religion in ways they believe are offensive’. This is not reflective of a generalised hatred of Muslims. Rather, it expresses concern about the impact of certain sections of Islam on important aspects of Western life.

Islam does encourage ‘intolerance of free speech’. It has ‘called for violent actions’ on those who ‘mock the religion’. Those who point this out do not necessarily have a hostile attitude to Muslims; they are simply criticising strains of thought within Islam. These are entirely legitimate concerns to hold. To equate these statistics to a generalised hostility towards Muslims in the UK is completely wrong….

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  1. CogitoErgoSum says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 5:16 pm

    Again, I ask any Muslims out there to explain verse 9:29 of the Koran to me, including how it is not an explicit threat to all of us who are not and do not want to be Muslims.

    • mortimer says

      Mar 21, 2020 at 8:01 pm

      The explanation of 9.29 is that it is the ‘HINGE’ verse of the Koran … the very moment when Mohammed decided to drop the ‘nice’ approach and use violence to exploit the kufaar as his principal source of income. 9.29 is the GAME-CHANGER verse of the Koran.

      9.29 is also the EXTORTION verse of the Koran. Muslims know this verse is eternally valid, but few have the courage to take it seriously. 9.29 declares that for Muslims, the end justifies the means.

      In fact, this film is ISLAMIC REALITY turned inside out. The VIOLENCE depicted in the film is practiced by MUSLIMS against the KUFAAR every day of the year.

      This film is PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION … the transference of one’s own shortcomings onto a scapegoat.

      SCAPEGOATING the KUFAAR is normative Islam and result of the teaching of AL WALAA WAL BARAA … the dualistic doctrine that commands Muslims to hate the dirty KUFAAR while practicing charity only towards fellow Muslims.

      The film’s intention is to justify the BARAA … the ‘cleansing’ of kafirs from society and canonical hatred towards them that is demanded by Sharia law).

      This film is the MIRROR IMAGE of AL WALAA WAL BARAA.

      • eduardo odraude says

        Mar 21, 2020 at 9:05 pm

        Yes. The very common Islamic strategy: blame your victim for what you yourself are doing to him. By putting out this kind of mythology, jihadists and their apologists are like those sea creatures that squirt a cloud of ink into the water in order to confuse or blind their prey.

        • mortimer says

          Mar 21, 2020 at 9:44 pm

          u got it, mate! thas taqiyya 4 u. we be blamin the dirty kufaar for wot we r-selves be doin. Jihad, only backwards, mate. very clever, innit?

        • TruthHonestReality says

          Mar 22, 2020 at 3:30 am

          Leftists do the same exact thing, must be why they (mu slimes & leftists) are in a love with each other and fighting against the evil white man.

      • Vicky says

        Mar 21, 2020 at 11:37 pm

        Deceit is Halal when the goal is attainable.
        The same can be said of the CCP (China Regime).
        And now we see, we are living under a double-simultaneous assault under guise of innocence.
        Both are Fascist in nature.
        Be strong and resist.

        • Rufolino says

          Mar 22, 2020 at 4:15 am

          This film’s scenario is preposterous. Islam has got the British just where they want them.

          It’s only a matter of time now, and when the collapse comes many British will be indifferent. The British have become brain-dead through political correctness.

      • Melvin Ruebinawitz says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 10:25 pm

        Well said, thanks for the instruction.

    • Mary Smith says

      Mar 23, 2020 at 5:13 am

      I am using a reply to you to make my point because I could not find out how to comment.
      The scenario described seems to me most like what a muslim man and his family suffered at the hand of muslims when the family dared to convert to Christianity. Many converts suffer in a similar manner. I have never read of Christians going in and attacking a muslim family in the UK. All over the world, we know from actual incidents and first-hand reports, that it is Christians who are the most persecuted people – and mostly by muslims. This film is simply propaganda to hide what is actually happening. It is shameful.

    • sally farmer says

      Mar 23, 2020 at 9:51 am

      Absolutely, that one and a great many others. How they can keep a straight face when they lie so credibly

  2. gravenimage says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 5:26 pm

    UK: New film has non-Muslims drag Muslim family from home and murder them as non-Muslim neighbors

    The killers are a gang of armed white men who arrive in a black van. The police, also white, stand by and do nothing. The family’s white neighbours then watch from their window as the Asian family members are shot in the head…
    ……………………….

    What vicious bullsh*t. Where have we *really* seen scenes like this? Not civilized Westerners murdering Muslims. but Muslims murdering Hindus, Christians, and Ahmadis–often with Muslim police standing by and doing nothing.

    Just more Muslim projection…

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Mar 21, 2020 at 5:33 pm

      They live in fear that others will do to them what they want to do to others. Maybe that is their “golden rule.”

      • martin says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 4:55 am

        Musims go by the excrement rule

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Mar 21, 2020 at 5:41 pm

      Yep. And they know that millions of PC Islamophiles will buy that bullshit, no questions asked.

      • Trish says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 9:34 am

        Which is truly sad.

    • mortimer says

      Mar 21, 2020 at 8:04 pm

      Well said, GI. The religiously-motivated violence of the film is acted out daily by Muslims in Muslim-majority regions.

      Muslim police often stand at a distance waiting for the Muslim mob to finish its violence before moving in. In many cases, the only purpose of the Muslim police officers is to tell the kufaar not to place a complaint or charge against the guilty Muslims.

      • James Lincoln says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 7:32 am

        mortimer says,

        “In many cases, the only purpose of the Muslim police officers is to tell the kufaar not to place a complaint or charge against the guilty Muslims.”

        That is true, but it is also true of some “British native” police officers.

        After all, we couldn’t have a “breach of the peace…”

        • David says

          Mar 22, 2020 at 8:50 pm

          Tommy Robinson has been on the receiving end of ‘British Justice’. He got arrested the other week for apprehending a pedophile who had just molested Tommy’s 8-year-old daughter. The pedo was not arrested. Needless to say, he was a muslim.

      • Cicero says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 9:00 am

        In Pakistan as it continues to perpetuate gross persecution and extinction of its Christian Sikh Hindu and other religious minorities when the victim goes to lay the allegations the Pakidtani police fob them off, refuse to acknowledge that a crime has occurred , distort the plaintiffs report or charge the plaintiff themselves . The judiciary are equally complicit

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 1:42 am

      Grimly true, CogitoErgoSum, Savvy Kafir, and Mortimer.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 4:28 pm

        Lots of good posts.

    • Cicero says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 12:36 pm

      “ The White police just look on ….” This false picture presented by Muslim British actor Riz Ahmed is ever so familiar In the recent anti CAA riots in Delhi India the Muslims accused the Police of standing as Muslims were massacred by Hindus. In fact it was the Muslims who , on the pretext of wanting to talk
      K Peace with the Indian Police then proceeded to rip the policeman’s helmet off his heads inflicting serious I;juries. They are such barefaced liars !

    • JamesC. says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 12:44 pm

      And evidence, perhaps, of an unquiet conscience that Muslims cannot entirely silence ? Vicious, indeed.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 7:58 pm

        I doubt it, James. This is intended more to induce unearned guilt in civilized Britons, instead.

    • Melvin Ruebinawitz says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 10:27 pm

      The “Handmaiden’s Tale.”

  3. gravenimage says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 5:34 pm

    Also, if Muslims *really* believed this, they would all be fleeing Britain. Instead, many are committing violence to reach the UK.

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Mar 21, 2020 at 5:42 pm

      Good point!

      • mortimer says

        Mar 21, 2020 at 8:24 pm

        Yes, indeed, Muslims are NOT fleeing TO Islamic countries from UK, they are fleeing FROM Islamic Berzerkistans TO the UK … to find freedom, safety, equality and honesty, the very things that are lacking in Berzerkistan.

        The film is the mirror image of reality.

        • eduardo odraude says

          Mar 21, 2020 at 9:20 pm

          Are they seeking freedom? Some of them, no doubt. But many of them are engaged rather in hijra to some extent or other, i.e., demographic subversion of UK society until the UK can thereby be changed, after a generation or two, into a state where the Islamic ethos, if not formally established as Islamic law, nevertheless shoves aside liberal democracy and substitutes for it an authoritarian Islamic culture that crushes dissent and oppresses non-Muslims mercilessly.

        • mortimer says

          Mar 21, 2020 at 9:49 pm

          yes, Eduardo, Muslims in the West love the freedom they experience for the first time. A guilty pleasure for them. They admit it quietly when they feel safe.

          Ask them if they prefer the freedom of the West, or would they prefer the Islamist restrictions of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Iran. If they prefer strict Sharia, why not live in the above three Sharia paradises?

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 22, 2020 at 1:47 am

          Mortimer–with all respect–few Muslims seem to be coming into the West to champion freedom, equality, and honesty. Many more are intent on imposing Shari’ah here.

          For many Muslims, this is a Hijira–an invasion intended to turn the free West into a part of Dar-al-Islam. I know how knowledgeable you are about Islam–you are well aware of this mandate.

        • sweetolbob says

          Mar 22, 2020 at 4:52 am

          Filthy muslims CAN’T flee to other muslim countries because those countries are full of filthy muslims who recognize the damage these muslim so called refugees will do.
          Besides, the other Arab countries refuse to give free food, money, shelter and everything else to the healthy, male, sucks who demand it.

        • Cicero says

          Mar 22, 2020 at 9:05 am

          May I suggest that Jihad Watch readers tweet @rizwanahmed @sarahsands100 ( the latter is the current editor of BBC Radio4 Today programme ) Tweet the former for pushing his propaganda that his film portrays And tweet the latter as editor for giving prime airtime to Riz Ahmed to publicise his hateful rhetoric under the guise of “ Art”

    • jayell says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 7:54 am

      “Many are committing violence to reach the UK……”, and then, of course, many muslims proceed to commit violence (and a whole catalogue of acts of gross disrespect) WITHIN the UK – hence the fact the number of muslims in UK jails is five times their proportion of the current UK population. Ahmed states that a lot of Britons don’t see him as ‘British’; well, for a start, he has not got a traditionally ‘British’ name (a clear label of identity), and then he openly espouses a ‘religious’ ideology that has proved itself in the eyes of the British people to be totally alien to their values and cultural identity; and, furthermore, the followers of this ideology openly dissociate themselves from ‘British’ values, so if THEY say that they’re not ‘British’ then the rest of us are hardly going to disagree with them, given all the evidence. So Ahmed says that he doesn’t reel ‘at home’ in Britain; well, that’s hardly surprising in the circumstances, but in any case that’s HIS problem and he could solve it simply by moving somewhere else permanently. Or does he (and the rest of his kind) presume some right to dictate the qualifications for ‘Britshness’? How does one justify that contention?

      This business of ‘Asian’ families being ‘dragged from their homes and executed’ in the UK is very interesting since that sort of alleged scenario needs a very lively imagination since it’s never happened in the UK. But, of course, it HAS frequently happened in muslim countries where they’ve regularly harassed and attacked Christian and other minorities – so this is a nasty piece of lying projection from Ahmed’s own mind. What HAS actually frequently happened in the UK is muslims taking over neighbourhoods and then harassing indigenous persons who remain in order to get them out so that the muslims can declare it ‘their’ territory (I have heard evidence of this more than once). Perhaps Ahmed is imagining some kind of justifiable retribution from an indigenous ‘opposition’? That’s certainly the sort of thing we’d expect from a warped, uncivilised islamic mentality. What has actually happened in the UK is the very-well-documented phenomenon of ‘white flight’ whereby the English have got the hell out of neighbourhoods as evidence of ‘cultural enrichment’ has increased (as witnessed in places like Bradford and London, which now has only about a 40% ‘English’ component).

      By the way, the sort of deliberately contrived misleading propaganda as seen in Ahmed’s film has been done before; for example, an official anti-street-crime poster campaign in London some years ago in which a youngish Afro-Caribbean female was depicted being attacked by a curiously well-dressed 30-something English male – the problem being that, according to the official crime stats, this hypothetical scenario represented a REVERSE of the true reality on London’s streets at the time. The trouble is, no-one was convinced, just like no-one apart from the ‘liberal-left’ will be convinced by Ahmed’s film.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 8:43 pm

        True, Jayell. When I referred to Muslims committing violence to reach the UK, I was primarily thinking of the Calais “Jungle” and often violent attempts to catch rides into the UK on supply trucks from France.

  4. Koosemo says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 6:12 pm

    Projection is a weapon in the arsenal of the muslim genocidal psychopath

    • mortimer says

      Mar 21, 2020 at 8:27 pm

      Psychological projection is learned from the example of Mohammed in the hadiths and Koran.

    • Scamada Turdeau says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 3:45 am

      projection is used by all tyrants who peddle totalitarian lifestyles and worldviews

  5. revereridesagain says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 6:13 pm

    “Ahmed’s film seeks to trade off the message that British Muslims are in a comparable position to European Jews prior to the Holocaust. This is the message of his film.” That is an obscene claim coming from an adherent of an ideology one of the central tenets of which is hatred of Jews qua Jews.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Mar 21, 2020 at 9:28 pm

      Yes. Muhammad banished some of the Jews in Medina and killed off the others. He presided over the beheading of 600 to 900 disarmed Jewish prisoners.

      Worth recalling also that the Arab Muslim world sided with HItler in World War II, and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem — the second or third most influential Muslim in the world at that time — was a major influence pushing Hitler to carry out the Holocaust. See Nazis, Islamists, and the Making of the Modern Middle East, Yale University Press.

  6. James Lincoln says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 6:24 pm

    I’d like to see a talented filmmaker produce a 100% accurate film about the muslim rape gangs in the UK.

    Worldwide distribution…

  7. Rolf Wittwer says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 6:28 pm

    History has shown: most Muslims are prisoners of a hypocritical and unfair mindset.

  8. James Lincoln says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    Robert Spencer states:

    “To equate these statistics to a generalised hostility towards Muslims in the UK is completely wrong…”

    That is a true statement.

    That being said, muslims in the UK are not doing much to improve their image – and prevent any future “generalized hostility.”…

    • Robert Spencer says

      Mar 21, 2020 at 6:56 pm

      I didn’t write that. That comes from the article quoted, as is clear from the attribution, link, and blockquote.

      • James Lincoln says

        Mar 21, 2020 at 7:24 pm

        Mea culpa, Robert Spencer!

        I stand corrected…

        Article written by Luke Gittos, a spiked columnist and author.

        And best wishes to you, sir!

  9. FYI says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    “Pick your poison” an opportunity Riz Ahmed’s “prophet” muhammed didn’t get…..

    Will Riz Ahmed be making any films about white women raped by PAKISTANI muslims or is that just too “islamophobic”?

    I could write the screenplay.

    …{A group of muslim PAKISTANI rapists,fresh from their islamic “prayers”,wudu’d and heavily saturated in aftershave like many of them love to be, decide to go out on the town in ROTHERHAM UK and molest some unhijabbed females,especially western women:the police do nothing as they don’t want to be labelled “islamophobic”.Some rap music at the end sung by the rapists thankful they live in a society that allows them to get away with such things.The message?
    Ahmed’s co-religionists are allowed to get away with it…..The Long Night {of the Victims of muslim RAPE gangs}…

    Say Riz?Would you like to be the Director?Nah..too close to the truth..

    How about a Leftard-BBC sponsored drama about a Jihadist with a heart of Gold,who refuses to kill the muslims amongst the hostages he has taken.Such honor and moral deceny!

    Then of course in many of these dramas there is the token innocent good muslim giving out to the bad muslim jihadist and telling us that this has nothing to do with islam and allah will punish him for murdering innocent people{I have seen this frequently in many dramas!}perhaps the “good” muslim didn’t read the ‘holy’ koran.

    • JamesC. says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 12:53 pm

      “…Some rap music at the end sung by the rapists….”

      Seems grimly appropriate.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 10:03 pm

      Riz Ahmed was also in HBO’s “The Night Of…”. This ultimately is less about whether a Muslim murdered an Infidel girl, and more about how terrible American jails are, how he was bullied by “Islamophobic” American kids after 9/11, and how mean authorities are not to give his father back the cab his son was driving on the night in question.

      He also played with the issue of Jihad terror, appearing as an “amusingly” incompetent Jihad terrorist security guard in “Four Lions”,. In “The Road to Guantanamo” as an innocent British Muslim who goes with some buddies to a friend’s wedding in Pakistan and decides to take a fun-filled side trip to Afghanistan… In “The Reluctant Fundamentalist” he plays a Muslim who, despite having received vast opportunities including a full scholarship to Princeton, is presented as just being persecuted by “Islamophobic” American jerks.

      In other words, he has spent most of his career working fake Islamic victimhood. This latest is just even more propagandistic.

  10. Niemoller says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    This is ISIS-level propaganda meant to incite already terroristic Islamists into jihad using the phony pretense that they are victims. No different than what the Nazi and Imperial Japan did.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Mar 21, 2020 at 9:49 pm

      Yes. And what sociopaths apparently do. If you catch them in a selfish act or lie or manipulation, they quickly find a way to turn it around and play victim. They know that most people feel empathy, that you feel empathy, and that if they play victim, they can turn your empathy on and escape accountability for their dishonesty, malfeasance, and manipulations.

  11. mortimer says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 8:29 pm

    The Labour Party once defended the working class in Britain. Today they SLANDER the working class in Britain.

  12. Faqir Hussain says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    More nonsense, it is usually the other way around in Pakistan, Indonesia, Bangaladesh and other Muslim majority countries & even in Western countries immigrant muslims, they murder and Maine Buddhists, Christians, Hundus, Jains, Atheists and so forth,, Christians do not go killing Muslims in their homes This is utter nonesene done by some idiot muslim.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 2:21 am

      Spot on.

    • Khushi says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 3:23 am

      Agree. In fact, muslims have murdered scores of Hindu Pandits in Kashmir in the recent past. But Riz does not want to make a movie on that because there would be no victimhood for muslims in that movie.

  13. OTTER says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    For all those who think that there is no danger from moderate Muslims, this is an example. They are the Vanguard and the protectors of murderous Islam. They are the advance defense party who carry out the work stealthily so that no antibodies to the Islamic invasion and infiltration remain. The world has gone mad not to notice the true nature of this threat.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 2:26 am

      +1

    • eduardo odraude says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 12:46 pm

      I think a lot of “moderate” Muslims in the West are merely kind of neutral and non-ideological, ready to conform both to Islamic authority and other authorities, depending on which way the wind is blowing. They are here for the prosperity, don’t care much about freedom, and don’t much notice that prosperity depends on freedom. In part many of them don’t feel much need to resist Islam in its political ambitions, others are afraid to resist Islam, and few feel able to leave it except at significant cost and sometimes risk to their very lives, so most have long ago accepted it, take it for granted, and to better secure themselves want Islam to root here and other Muslims in general to come here and shore up Muslim security and prosperity. This type of “moderate” Muslim will just go along, more or less, with the slow spread and growing roots of the ethos that gradually brings about the informal or formal establishment of Islamic law.

      I have often wondered, however, how many Muslims have aided the FBI and CIA in discovering and destroying jihadist plots, and how those Muslims think of their religion. Some may actually believe there is no contradiction between Islam’s core books and the US Constitution. Others may be only nominal Muslims, Muslim in background only, who prefer the US Constitution to Islam and hate what Islam has done to Muslim-majority nations. Still other “moderate” Muslims aiding the FBI/CIA might not themselves mind the idea of living other Islamic law but want to stop jihad terror in the US since jihad makes the US setting less friendly to Muslim immigration and seems to threaten the Muslim minority’s economic and political security here. Still others may be motivated to cooperate solely by financial rewards.

      On the other hand, I suppose it is not terribly difficult for the FBI and CIA to train people to go undercover among Muslims in order to suss out jihadists.

      • eduardo odraude says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 12:49 pm

        “living other Islamic law”

        should read

        “living under Islamic law”

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 10:05 pm

        Eduardo, even in the US over half of Muslims openly say they want to impose Shari’ah law here.

    • Dieks says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 10:03 pm

      Exactly 👍💪

  14. Westman says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    Muslims want universal respect, yet Iranians think Iraqis are morons, SA thinks Iranians are morons, Turks think Iranians and SA are morons, Maylays think the entire ME Muslims are morons and they all think central and southern African Muslims are morons. So much for the wonderful “brotherhood” of the Ummah.

    Islam can show all the vicitimhood films it can conjure up and never remove the hypocricy of how Muslims disrespect each others ethnicity.

    A Muslim is far more likely to suffer violence at the hands of other Muslims, as we have observed in the refugee camps, than by some unbeliever.

  15. OTTER says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    Violence amongst Muslims idoes not detract from their overall goal of conquering other non-Muslim societies. To paraphrase Sam Huntington Islam has bloody borders and bloody interiors. Merely because they kill each other does not mean that they will not kill you.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 2:29 am

      Grimly true, OTTER. We cannot forget this.

  16. peter says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 9:55 pm

    But we should take advantage of their feuding so that in the end there will not be enough muslims left to pose a danger to the rest of us . This is especially important because muslims breed like rats with several wives and concubines following the example of their supreme leader Mohamud !

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 2:39 am

      Muslims have always hated and murdered each other–yet had plenty of enthusiasm left for slaughtering Infidels.

      • JamesC. says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 1:07 pm

        They sound very like Tolkien’s Orcs:

        “The big orc, spear in hand, leapt after him. But the tracker, springing behind a stone, put an arrow in his eye as he ran up, and he fell with a crash. The other ran off across the valley and disappeared.

        For a while the hobbits sat in silence. At length Sam stirred. ‘Well I call that neat as neat,’ he said. ‘If this nice friendliness would spread about in Mordor, half our trouble would be over.’
        ‘Quietly, Sam,’ Frodo whispered. ‘There may be others about. We have evidently had a very narrow escape, and the hunt was hotter on our tracks than we guessed. But that is the spirit of Mordor, Sam; and it has spread to every corner of it. Orcs have always behaved like that, or so all tales say, when they are on their own. But you can’t get much hope out of it. They hate us far more, altogether and all the time. If those two had seen us, they would have dropped all their quarrel until we were dead.’”

        – The Lord of the Rings, Book 6 chapter 2.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 22, 2020 at 11:03 pm

          Yes–very apt comparison.

  17. jewdog says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 10:22 pm

    Leni Riefenstahl used to make very effective Nazi propaganda films in the 1930s depicting Polish and Czech persecution of their German minorities in order to create sympathy for Hitler’s territorial ambitions. The idea was to exploit a grievance which in fact had some truth to it in order to justify widespread Nazi aggression and destruction of those countries.
    Here, the filmmaker is exploiting public distrust of Muslims and Islam, which in fact exists, in order to demonize the skeptics and discredit any actual merit in their concerns. Ultimately, there is an aggressive agenda for the Islamization of society and oppression of non-Muslims, a process with a long historical precedent.

  18. sentryonthewall says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 11:01 pm

    The tactic that the Muslim producer of the film is using was taken from the playbook of Mohammad.

    When he moved to Medina and became a violent and murderous warlord, he attacked neighboring peoples. When they fought back, he claimed victimhood, pretending that his followers were being persecuted for their faith.

    The film uses the same principle. Worldwide, Muslims are overwhelmingly the aggressors, their actions very much like what is in the film, or worse.

    Now a film comes out, showing the Muslim family as victims of non-Muslim aggression.

    To be clear, this is an Islamic fantasy, told to sway the naïve and ignorant westerners that still accept Islam as a “religion of peace”. In the real world, this virtually never happens…non-Muslims are too busy giving free unearned passes to Jihadis.

    Muslims, as a group, routinely attack, maim, rape, and kill non-Muslims without any qualms. Who beheads their chosen enemies? Who enforces child marriage and pedophilia? Who devalues women, forcing them to cover themselves, so that the weak willed and savage Islamic males aren’t tempted? Who still traffic in actual slaves today? And who are sworn to wage “holy warfare” for their god, killing and eradicating those that reject their rule and his oppressive and cruel ownership?

    Of course, the answer to all of the above is the followers of Allah. And still the members of this violent and vile religious/political system use deception, hypocrisy, and outright lies to pretend that they are the ones that should be given sympathy and support, that they are the ones who are being attacked.

    The film and the message of the film are worse than nonsense…They are classic cultural Jihad, using the culture as a weapon to promote conquest in the cause of Allah.

    It’s very clear and easy to see, if you have your eyes open and your brain engaged.

  19. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 11:33 pm

    “Art should be provocative. It should challenge preconceived ideas and received wisdom.”

    Ya mean, like the wisdom received from Allah in the Quran and hadith?

    • andrew mckendrick says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 10:51 am

      Yea …Like Islam is a religion of peace !

  20. Yorkshire Kufir says

    Mar 21, 2020 at 11:57 pm

    This rap video to portray muslims as the everlasting victims is not for the consumption of unbelievers, the kufaar. It is for the credulous and ignorant muslim men who have forever inflicted (and suffered the botched attempts of) Jihad, to motivate them to cause further atrocities claimed to be revenge, but really to keep this failed cult going. As an observation, the vid shows how muslims would like to do ethnic cleansing, the western version would not be so flamboyant, but many times more efficient and effective.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 2:42 am

      It is meant fro both. When Muslims can imbue Infidels with a false sense of guilt they are happy to do so.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 22, 2020 at 11:03 pm

        for both

  21. tgusa says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 12:51 am

    What are they not getting? We don’t want to drag them out of their dwellings and kill them. We want them to leave, to go home to their islamic ruled paradises. And then when they go home and do something un-islamic a mob of their own can drag them out and kill them.

  22. Krishna says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 3:02 am

    Mr riz Ahmed Such horrors daily happen in your home town Pakistan where Muslims lynch minorities, women, apostates and so called blasphers

    • Cicero says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 12:45 pm

      Please tweet @rizwanahmed your thoughts about his “Creative project “ and copy in @sarahsands100 edit
      Tor of Radio 4 Today programme who gave him lots of airtime to plug his hateful film

  23. Khushi says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 3:32 am

    Victimhood of muslims is shown in innumerable Hindi movies too. And in almost all of them, the muslim is a good guy. In a biographical movie about Milkha Singh (the runner) whose full family was butchered by muslims at partition time, they show the killers as masked men – not as musims – presumably because muslims can ONLY be shown as victims – not as perpetrators.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 11:04 pm

      Just appalling.

  24. TruthHonestReality says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 3:39 am

    This is racism and people need to start calling this what it is. This video is anti-white bigotry. I wish people would wake up already.

    * Remember, they (mu slimes) are not dangerous – they are in danger!

    Imagine if this was the other way around, it would be called racism and mu slimes and leftists would once again unite and riot and protest until the people responsible were literally cancelled.

  25. Val says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 4:40 am

    The last non-Muslims in the U.K. need to arrange shipment of all nukes to the US. The islands can be declared a Middle East style wasteland without further risk to human civilization.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 11:05 pm

      Don’t give up yet.

  26. tim gallagher says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 5:15 am

    I agree with the comments up above that make the obvious point that it is Muslims that carry out a neverending succession of terrorist murders, rapes, etc of non-Muslims. I hope that pretty well everybody would instantly realise that this film by this Muslim maggot is complete and utter bullshit. As Robert Spencer often points out, the Muslim scumbags constantly attempt to portray themselves as the poor victims, even though it is Muslims who are endlessly murdering non-Muslims. Hopefully, almost no-one is buying the Muslim bullshit these days, but I guess there are still some brain dead fools who do buy their rubbish. The Muslims seem to have the mentality that non-Muslims are less than human and are not supposed to ever fight back, but are just meant to put up with being murdered, raped, etc by the “superior” Muslim scum. It is the only way that I can understand this Muslim victimhood crap. It always seems to be, “How dare anyone fight back against Islam, we Muslims are superior beings”. When very occasionally the non-Muslims do fight back and, maybe even kill some Muslims such as in New Zealand, I personally just think, well, Muslims have killed huge numbers of us non-Muslims, so I have no sympathy for the Muslims. I’d prefer that we just kept Muslims out of our countries and avoided this whole Muslim problem, but if someone does turn around and kills some Muslims sometimes, I think, well, you know, what goes around, comes around. Keep treating non-Muslims like crap and you’ll cop some of your own medicine. To me, Muslims are victims to the same extent that the Nazis were poor, put upon victims.

  27. Giacomo Latta says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 5:43 am

    ”only 32 per cent believe that Islam and the British way of life are compatible”
    And how many percentage points make up the opinion given by muslims?

  28. David Halterman says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 6:06 am

    How many times in the past 20 years have we seen this very thing being done by Muslims to thousands of innocent non-Muslims families with the whole world watching? Do the Muslims really think that the Infidel is going to come to their rescue when the time for retribution comes? One final word, KARMA!

    • JamesC. says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 1:20 pm

      And karma, as we know, is the female of an animal Mad Ham-Head did not much care for. David Wood has the details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0WgK8EMOnE

  29. maemae77 says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 6:48 am

    Islamic propaganda in the form of a movie to blind the masses.

  30. Tim Carlo says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 6:53 am

    This has been the strategy of Democratic Leftists for many years. Blame the Conservative whites for what they are doing, I think it’s also called “Hypocrites”. and the Media, like CNN promote it or not report it. It would be great if the Brits would denounce This Muslim scourge that has swarmed into their country like locusts… Revelations, the Locust is the Muslim… wake up people.

  31. Gork says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 8:53 am

    This video wouldn’t have been made were there not some financial gain or reward in it. It’s obvious that there is a market.

    My point is that there are many who think this narrative has some truthiness to it. They want to believe it. The problem isn’t that such tripe was put on video. The problem is that there are people who want to see it and believe in it.

    • revereridesagain says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 11:12 am

      Yes, beyond financial gain there is also a propaganda value for those who made this piece of trash, which they must have intended. There is a condition termed by cognitive psychologists “the cultivation effect” which means that the influence of film, movies, tv, stage presentations on their viewers’ information, beliefs, and attitudes shows a strong correlation between viewing and belief formation. People typically “do not discount information derived from fictional sources such as movies even though they are aware that movies do not supply factual information”.

      Thus the production of “The Long Goodbye” will negate volumes of factual information in the minds of uncritical viewers, and uncritical is what most are. As Robert notes, “Thus no one will be able to whisper a word about the advancing jihad threat; doing so will be labeled ‘hate’ and outlawed accordingly”.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 11:08 pm

      Maybe, Gork–certainly, there are some suicidal British Infidels who will probably watch this thing.. It could also be pure propaganda, though.

  32. Seth says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 8:55 am

    This site calls the Daily Mail ‘the worst newspaper in the Western World’. Yes, DM is reliably execrable (at the moment they are busy little bees, whipping up Covid-19 hysterical insanity), but it has strong competition from The Independent, which outdoes even the poor old Grauniad in its unremitting hatred of Western civilization.

    Whatever, we got the memo. Any discussion of Islam, except in the most laudatory terms, is ‘Islamophobia’. Any criticism, no matter how mild, is ‘Islamophobic’. Hence the risible percentages of ‘Islamophobia’ in that utterly worthless and propagandistic Independent article.

    Bottom line: the existence of non-Muslims anywhere in the world is ‘Islamophobia’.

  33. Crusades Were Right says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 10:17 am

    A good rule of thumb, I suspect, when trying to predict the intentions of the Left, is to note ITS predictions about the intentions of those it hates…

    …and simply SWAP the culprit and victim roles.

  34. Liz says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 10:40 am

    “When I am silenced entirely and this site is unavailable, and everyone is marching together into the glorious multicultural future without distraction from “Islamophobes,” and yet for some reason the jihad massacres keep happening, I hope you will remember when you read this and how you got from living in a free society to the open-air gulag you’ll be living in at that point.”

    I pray you are never silenced, nor anyone else who is speaking truth here. I continue to look for signs that the multicultural mantra ‘Diversity is our Strength’ comes to include diversity of thought too and that people begin to understand a different opinion should be engaged to find the truth, not silenced.

    Thank you for speaking for those who have been permanently silenced, for continueing to sound the much needed alarm, for calling out the lies and exposing propaganda.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2020 at 11:09 pm

      Hear, hear!

  35. Linde Barrera says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 11:07 am

    I live in Brooklyn, NY and I hate Islam. I am Islamophobic and proud. But I do not hate or wish anything bad to Muslims. There is a difference between doctrine and human behavior. Unfortunately, many Muslims do not make that distinction and think if you attack their religion then you are attacking them. I guess that is their guilt and self-disdain for following a false religion. 😈

  36. OLD GUY says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 4:09 pm

    Well what goes around usually comes around. If muslims keep killing the kufaar’s eventually the kufaar is going tl kill muslims in like.

  37. Jan Disher says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    Is this roll-reversal, Riz? Think Coptic Christian, Pakistani Christians, Lebanese Christians, etc, etc. I particularly dislike this whiny punk and will not watch anything with him in it.

  38. martin says

    Mar 22, 2020 at 8:31 pm

    I have seen muslims do this type of thing often online. They take things that they are fully aware that muslims, only muslims do, then accuse non muslims of doing them.

  39. Jitendra Desai says

    Mar 23, 2020 at 12:50 pm

    If UK is so Islamophobic how is it that so many thousands are waiting in Turkey to enter Europe and UK? Are there any rules in UK which prevent its citizens from returning to their countries of origin? Left liberals in Europe and elsewhere are being led by their nose by Islamists.Why this stupidity?

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