This is the Germany Merkel has made. Germans may rejoice that they are not “racist” or “Islamophobic.”
“Germany Arrests Four Tajik Nationals Suspected Of Plotting Terrorist Attack,” Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, April 15, 2020 (thanks to David):
Germany has detained five suspected members of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group alleged to be planning an attack on U.S. military facilities and an unidentified individual.
Prosecutors said four of the suspects — all from Tajikistan — were arrested early on April 15 in the city of Siegen and in the towns of Heinsberg and Werdohl in the western state of North Rhine-Westphalia.
The fifth suspect, also a Tajik national believed to be the leader of the terror cell, was already in custody after being detained in March 2019. The men are all aged between 24 and 32, and came to Germany as refugees.
Federal prosecutors identified the men as Azizjon B., Muhammadali G., Farhodshoh K., Sunatullokh K., and Ravshan B. The suspects’ surnames weren’t released for privacy reasons.
The men joined IS in January 2019 and were instructed by the terrorist group to form a cell in Germany, prosecutors said.
The suspects reportedly first planned to carry out an attack in their native Tajikistan, but later shifted their target to Germany, including U.S. Air Force bases in the country and a person they deemed critical of Islam.
“Targets for the attacks were supposed to be institutions of U.S. forces in Germany or even individual people,” prosecutors said in a statement….
Deanne says
Bring our troops home from all nations that coddle islam and let those nations fight the vile sharia culture they welcomed in on their own
ingrid220559 says
For sure, we must do this. But I wonder how to throw out all these Merkel idiots who brought us this islamic shit? I never understand why people vote for them,it´s suicide !
Frank Anderson says
Ingrid, WHAT is the difference between suicide and murder? You cannot commit MY suicide. Only I can commit MY suicide. The leaders who are betraying you and their duties to you are not committing YOUR suicide.
Virginia Apel says
OK, try doing something to remove these “suiciders” and see how far your get. They are indeed committing your national suicide if you were stupid enough to vote for them, and sadly the majority Germans, for example, did just that and still will. The rest who can’t get out will just be murdered then, by definition.
Frank Anderson says
Virginia, there may either be a language or an understanding problem.
In the US Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being other than yourself with malice aforethought and without justification, mitigation or excuse..
Suicide is killing yourself.
Another person cannot commit your suicide by killing you. ONLY you can commit your suicide. If anyone else kills you it may be murder. But in no case can it be suicide.
In WWII the Nazis shifted the blame for the Holocaust by saying the Jews did it to themselves. They used that lie to convince enough Germans to go along with the killings that the killings continued essentially all the way to the fall of Germany. Did 6 million Jews, about 3 million POW’s from the Soviet Union and more or less a million more killed in the Holocaust commit suicide or were they murdered? If they did, then every person killed today by muslim terrorists committed suicide instead of being the victim of murder. And we have no responsibility whatever to do anything about it.
Can we say with a straight face that the victims of muslim “grooming gangs” raped themselves? If they did, then there is no crime being committed and the practice should be allowed to continue and grow. Millions of muslim invaders will be happy to know their conquest has taken another step to success.
Suicide is a tragedy both for the person and for the society which loses that person. Murder is a crime against that person and a crime against the whole society which loses all the benefits of that person’s life. In the US anyone who “aids, abets, counsels or acts in furtherance” of a federal crime is equally guilty as the one who physically does the crime (pulls the trigger, stabs or slashes with the knife, drives the car or truck. . .) that brings about the death and violation of civil rights of the deceased. Who is aiding, abetting, counseling and acting in furtherance of the crime of the destruction of freedom one dead person at a time? Freedom is not killing itself: It is being murdered a few here, a few there and many more every day.
gravenimage says
Frank, Robert Spencer also talks about nations having suicidal policies.
This does *not* mean that he is blaming Jews for the Holocaust as you say.
I know you have said how much you hate this phrasing, but it it well accepted usage and few seem to be confused by its meaning.
Frank Anderson says
GI, How many Holocaust services and events have you attended? How many has the most sincerely honored and respected Robert Spencer attended? How many Holocaust accounts have you watched? The use of “They did it to themselves” is not new. It has been “accepted, standard and normal” since the Nazi regime started using it. That does not make it true, accurate or non-deceptive. Age and “common usage” cannot turn lies into truth. The people who were enslaved and died in the last Holocaust did not do it to themselves; nor will the people who will be enslaved or die in the coming Holocaust do it to themselves. The usage is wrong, deceptive, misleading and unworthy of honest people. You, no matter how wise and powerful you are, cannot commit my suicide. Only I can kill myself and it be called properly my suicide.
With love and respect for an honored friend.
gravenimage says
Frank–with the greatest respect–you know that neither I nor Robert Spencer are blaming victims for the Holocaust.
I mean stories like this one:
“Is Jihad Watch a chronicle of the West’s suicide?”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/10/is-jihad-watch-a-chronicle-of-the-wests-suicide
Obviously there are those who are not exhibiting suicidal behavior vis-a-vis Islam, Anti-Jihadists in particular–but all too many are. That doesn’t mean that suicide is their goal, either personally or for society at large–but it can lead to that. And certainly, I think that talking about this widespread and dangerous phenomenon is very important.
Ordinary Joe says
I don’t think they are being voted in, they haven been ‘installed’ for the long term.
Virginia Apel says
Yes, but the majority still vote for these goons — of their own free will — and try to demonize or stamp out any kind of alternative opposition. It’s a sad commentary on modern society.
Yogi says
Why she still in the office? Nobody understand,Germany is done with this traitors parties : CDU, Linke , Greens , SPD , CSU, it’s to many traitors, only solution to this insanity would be vote for AFD, in masses , but I don’t think Germans realize what this bunch of traitors in the Bundestag prepared for them , it’s very sad , but this country is dying..
Rufolino says
Europe is dying, Yogi, shattering to have to say it.
Ashley says
Federal prosecutors identified the men as Azizjon B., Muhammadali G., Farhodshoh K., Sunatullokh K., and Ravshan B. The suspects’ surnames weren’t released for privacy reasons.
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That’s okay…I’m beyond impressed with the first names alone
James Lincoln says
Ashley,
Never could quite understand why such low IQ people have names that are so very difficult to say – and spell.
It probably also diminishes the chances for legitimate upward mobility in the work arena.
I mean most stockbrokers have names like “Bud”, “Chip”, etc…
Kepha says
They sound like some rap group from some decaying American city.
Michael Copeland says
“What a fantastic contribution muslims make to this country!”
David Cameron
Jayell says
Yes. In the demolition industry.
Rufolino says
Yes, Islamic violence is so fantastic it boggles the mind.
gravenimage says
Germany: Muslim migrants plot jihad massacres at US Air Force bases, murder of critic of Islam
………………..
Muslims in Germany are more and more brazen.
Frank Anderson says
GI, one student of history to another: Look how long, and how many delusions Neville Chamberlain had to overcome before he finally saw Hitler’s intentions. I have recently learned that Edouard Daladier went along with Chamberlain’s actions, but was not enthusiastic in accepting his delusions. As always, the first step to solving any problem is the hardest: Admitting the possibility that a problem exists.
So we have 4 beautiful examples to illustrate current events. 1) The totally delusional Chamberlain. 2) The totally evil liar Hitler. 3) The skeptical but compliant Daladier. 4) The alert and thinking Winston Churchill. “Those who cannot remember the lessons of the past are condemned to repeat them.” But can those who do remember the lessons avoid them?
Always sincere best wishes.
gravenimage says
Astute post, Frank.
Best to you in these trying times, as well.
John says
Germany today is the way it is because of US paranoia after WW2 and the its need to control Europe in its own interests. Even with the collapse of the Soviet Union it was not Germany that determined the outcome but the US. It was the US who insisted that hundred of thousands of Turks got jobs in Germany in the sixties and seventies to bolster the Turkish economy, then a valuable ally to the US in the fight to ensure that US interests were ensured in the fight against the Soviets. In fact today the US right sounds so much like the Muslims in blaming everybody else for their own failed policies all over the world. On the one hand the US says it stands for freedom of the individual and the economy, but the the US protects its banks, has the greatest tax havens in Delaware and tries to control the world more than the Soviets or China ever has. So practice what you preach and don’t be the hypocrites that you are. Stop blaming Merkel for being a decent human being just because it does not fit into what the US perceives to be its interests.
gravenimage says
What crap. The claim that the US forced Germany to bring in Muslim Turks is utter claptrap.
And how is allowing hordes of ravening Muslims into German proof of Merkell being a “decent human being”? This is clueless *at best*.
And how is having Muslims murdering Americans in Germany’s interest? Do you really think that Muslims are going to stop at killing Americans and leave native Germans alone? This obviously is not happening. Muslims hate *all* Infidesl.
Virginia Apel says
Absolutely. Hitler was already allied with the Muslims. He promised them a giant mosque in Munich.
Nobody can blame the USA for what happened in Germany. They gave us Marx the Frankfurter Schule and we just gave that back to them.
Owen Morgan says
“The men are all aged between 24 and 32, and came to Germany as refugees.”
Of course they did.
gravenimage says
Military-age single men–who have made up the majority of refugee streams at no time in history. Nor are these refugees now.
unbeliever1 says
The “left” will support any system and people who are hostile to Western ideals, even at the probability of such groups gaining power and subjecting them to put persecution.