Muhammad Saad Khandalvi said: “Satan is using this opportunity to lead us astray…This is the time to populate the mosques.” His group has links to al-Qaeda and the Taliban.
“India coronavirus: Tablighi Jamaat leader on manslaughter charge over Covid-19,” BBC, April 16, 2020:
The leader of a prominent Muslim group has been charged with manslaughter in India after a meeting it held in Delhi spawned numerous Covid-19 clusters.
Police say Muhammad Saad Khandalvi ignored two notices to end the event at a mosque in the capital in March.
The event has been linked to 1,023 cases across 17 states – believed to have been spread by infected foreign attendees.
Mr Saad and his Tablighi Jamaat group have denied any wrongdoing.
Delhi police said that Mr Saad had been charged with culpable homicide not amounting to murder, which means he will not be able to apply for bail.
The charges were brought against him while he was in self-isolation.
Police say the Tablighi Jamaat gathering in Delhi’s Nizamuddin area, which began on 3 March, was not ended even when India announced a lockdown on 24 March.
However, the organisation says they had suspended the event and asked everyone to leave as soon as Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced that there would be a day-long national curfew on 22 March….
Wellington says
Proving again that there is no “bottom” to Islamthink.
Islam is “bottomless” in sundry ways—actually approaching an uncountable number of ways when all of Islam’s errors and monstrosities over 1400 years are taken into account.
Islam is not only malevolent, it is stupid. Perhaps, just perhaps, focusing on its stupidity rather than its malevolence is the better approach. Reasonable minds can differ here. Close call I would argue.
mortimer says
‘ISLAMTHINK’ … indeed ! Islam means ‘submission’. The Islamic mindset must ‘submit’ to errors in logic, errors in history, errors in morality, errors in the Koranic text and errors in the hadiths. After brushing aside hundreds of valid objections to logic, the Islamic mind believes every foolishness that is shovelled into it.
Islam destroys the ability for critical thought and leaves helpless suggestibility … similar to that in a subject of hypnosis.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Wellington and Mortimer,
I’d say you are both onto it. Mortimer has put it very well, “The Islamic mindset must ‘submit’ to errors in logic, errors in history, errors in morality, errors in the Koranic text and errors in the hadiths. After brushing aside hundreds of valid objections to logic, the Islamic mind believes every foolishness that is shovelled into it.” This is spot on!
The one thing we need to understand about Muslims is that just because they are *not* devout or are *not* jihadis or do *not* espouse violence, etc., does *not* make them the same as non-Muslims in terms of rationality, logic or ethics. At the core of their being they are the same as the most crazy nut-case “scholar”, mullah or imam, and the most savage jihad mass murderer. This does not mean that every Muslim is a crazed, violent freak, but every Muslim’s mind is constituted in the same way as that of the crazed, violent freak. This is the real reason Muslims who grew up in the free world *and* have not had the intense early childhood hardwiring of the madrassa can express their revulsion with, say, ISIS, but then insist that ISIS is not Muslim and has nothing to do with Islam. Of course it is 100% Muslim and they know it, and there is a mountain of evidence to prove it. But to acknowledge that ISIS is Muslim is to beg the question: then what am I? The mind that has submitted cannot even contemplate not being Muslim. The only way around this is by denying that ISIS is Muslim, evidence one way or another being irrelevant.
In fact, when a Muslim, whether in the Dar al-Harb or the Dar al-Islam, comes up against the problem of being a Muslim in a world that *knows* civilisation, *knows* human rights, *has* advanced ethics (including not abusing the vulnerable, including humane treatment of animals), *has* science and, as a matter of course, applies its discoveries to improve human life, *knows* societies based on equality and mutual respect, *knows* the autonomous individual, etc., etc., then that submission begins to break down. The worst historical mistake Islam has ever committed was to take on a world that is could not immediately subdue. Muslims the world over have a living example right before their eyes of an alternative vastly superior to Islam.
When this breakdown in submission occurs, the Muslim is most susceptible to mockery: connecting the Muslim, personally, directly to the stupidities and absurdities of Islam and Muslims. There’s no ‘ISIS escape’ this time, for in the place of ISIS now stand the Muslim himself. With ISIS, he could insist that ‘ISIS is not Muslim’ and thereby safeguard his own being Muslim. But when his submission breaks down, all the insanity, the cruelty, the stupidity, the absurdity, the barbarism come flooding in straight at him and claim him. They become one with him. now, as with ISIS earlier, he must insist, ‘I am not Muslim’, only this time, instead the rejection driving him deeper into Islam, it ejects him from it.
It is also because of the breakdown in submission that mass migration of the most backward Muslims (they don’t have to be devout or even know a single Qur’an verse, they just have to have an unshakable identity as Muslim) to the West is the way that jihad attempts to correct its historical error of taking on the West. This is why Islam’s most important fifth column, Angela Merkel, *will stop at nothing* to facilitate the Muslim takeover of Europe.
Mocking Muslims saves Muslims. Mocking Muslims saves the world. Many apostates from Islam know this. That’s why we do it.
Boromir's Horn says
+1
gravenimage says
Good points, Anjuli. And how many of these “moderate” (for want of a better word) Muslims would actually stand with us and defend against their more devout coreligionists? *Very* few.
somehistory says
When one deliberately exposes others to serious harm, even leading to death, then that one should be charged with crimes. How many were there in the gathering? Level that many charges against him.
Having “links” to known terror groups such as al queda and the taliban makes him guilty of terror, even if he “denies” any “wrongdoing.” (Mr Saad and his Tablighi Jamaat group have denied any wrongdoing.) They never admit that anything they do for islam is “wrong.” Even when they admit…as the guy did who tried to burn down the church and slashed tires, didn’t admit to it being “wrong.”
Whatever a moslim chooses to do is always “right.” No matter how very wrong it really is. That is the thinking of a psychopath.
keith says
About time somebody grew a set of balls and took public action against turds like this.
Personally, I don’t give a rats ass who you are, if you deliberately ignore health warnings and spread this virus, which then kills people, then that is a criminal offense.
Throw his sorry ass in jail and publicly shame him.
Oh, and I believe in India, the death penalty is used for murder and manslaughter!
mortimer says
About time. This is a responsible charge and the Indian government’s attorney general probably approved it.
Unfortunately, they cannot change Islamic teachings about 1) the non-transmission of disease (Mohammed’s theory) and 2) Islam’s core teaching of fatalism (Allah is personally intervening in many natural processes on a routine basis).
infidel says
Manslaughter.. It should be pre-planned MASS MURDER!!!
Battle says
Was supposed to be a new reply.
OLD GUY says
I would encourage muslims to go to their mosques and bend over and pray to their false god Allah.
gravenimage says
India: Muslim leader gets manslaughter charge for ignoring notices to end large Islamic conference over coronavirus
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Glad India is taking this seriously.