Father Stephen Farragher is no doubt a loyal follower of Pope Francis, who has made the risible claim that “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence.” Although this is not and could not ever be a dogma of the Roman Catholic Church, it is assumed to be some kind of superdogma by the Catholic hierarchy worldwide, superseding all reason, all common sense, all fact, and all prudence, and is ruthlessly enforced, such that all those who stand by the truth are forcibly silenced and marginalized.
Meanwhile, when will this gesture be reciprocated? When will the Muslims invite Father Stephen Farragher to proclaim his faith in Christ as the Son of God and Savior of the world in a mosque? Never. “Interfaith dialogue” is not conducted in search of genuine religious rapprochement. It is designed simply to make Christians feel good about how Christlike and non-bigoted they are (in their own view), while the Muslims can go away satisfied that the Christians are again submitting to them.
“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
“Muslim Declares Muhammad’s Supremacy Over Jesus at Catholic Mass,” by Jules Gomes, ChurchMilitant.com, April 3, 2020 (thanks to Tom):
COUNTY MAYO, Ireland (ChurchMilitant.com) Muslims, invited by a Catholic priest in Ireland to pray alongside him during the celebration of the Holy Eucharist, prayed the Adhan — the Islamic call to prayer that categorically proclaims Islam’s supremacy over its forebears — Judaism and Christianity.
Father Stephen Farragher, parish priest of St. Patrick’s Church in Ballyhaunis, County Mayo, invited two Muslims to “pray in solidarity” with him “the final blessing and prayer” at the 10 a.m. Friday Mass to be broadcast on radio, Midwest Radio Ireland reported.
Mohammed Cherbatji and Mohammed Rahmani joined Fr. Farragher to seek a blessing on all frontline health care workers and frontline workers during the pandemic and pray for the eradication of the Wuhan virus. The church was reportedly empty because of the Wuhan virus restrictions.
However, a video of the Islamic prayer released on Twitter showed one of the Muslims in the pulpit cantillating the Adhan in Arabic.
Church Militant contacted a scholar in Islamic jurisprudence and Arabic expert who confirmed that the prayer was not a blessing for health care workers but the “Islamic call to prayer, which conclusively and unambiguously asserts that God’s revelation to Muhammad has supplanted and superseded God’s prior revelations to Moses in the Old Testament and to Jesus in the New Testament.”
The Adhan asserts: “Allah is the greatest. I bear witness that there is no god except Allah. I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. Come to prayer. Come to salvation.” These affirmations are repeated twice.
Theologian Dr. Gavin Ashenden, who resigned his position as Chaplain to the Queen in protest against a reading from the Koran at St. Mary’s Cathedral in Glasgow, Scotland, confirmed to Church Militant that “the Muslim call to prayer is a dramatic piece of Islamic triumphalism.”
“It proclaims Islam’s superiority over all other religions, and in so doing casts Jesus in the role of a charlatan and a liar. The Muslim god, Allah, is unknowable and has no son. Jesus was, therefore, a fraud in claiming He and the Father are one,” Ashenden, who recently converted to Catholicism, said.
“In a religious narrative where one religion denigrates another, compromise is not logically or theologically available,” he stressed….
In Arabic, “adhan” means “information” or “enlightenment” — signifying that people previously in darkness and ignorance are now “informed” and “enlightened” about the “true religion” of Islam, to which they must submit. Islam means submission (from the Arabic root “al-Silm” — submission or surrender).
Commentators have explained how reciting the Adhan in churches is a “power play” intended to conquer and sacralize Christian territory. Islamic scholars are engaged in an in-house discussion on whether it is haram (forbidden) or makrooh (offensive) for Muslims to enter churches.
“If your going to the church is just to show tolerance and lenience, then it is not permissible, but if it is done to call them to Islam and create opportunities for you to do so, and you will not be taking part in their worship and you are not afraid that you may be influenced by their beliefs or customs, then it is permissible,” declares the Fatwa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah.
mortimer says
Koran 61:9:8 says: “to make it (Islam) prevail over all the religions.
Ginger Li says
In their own words – how idiotic can these Catholic priests get?
sixlittlerabbits says
This is just a repeat of when Pope Francis at the start of his pontificate invited an imam to take part in a multi-faith prayer service in the Vatican Gardens. When the imam’s prayer in Arabic was translated to English, it revealed his prayer that Islam would conquer Rome!
As a cradle Catholic, I observe that this is INSANE. Poop Fransoros and those who imitate him–like the idiot Irish priest–are doing tremendous damage to the Catholic Church and to common sense.
mortimer says
“Fran-soros” … very good.
Josephine Sewell says
Totally agree with you, how can they be so short sighted to not predict this????
sweetolbob says
So, Father. Things were kinda rough in old Ireland when you were in your late teens. Family couldn’t afford to feed you , huh ?
Well, there’s always holy orders. The thought of doing without some things is a small price to pay when measured against a lifetime of hunger or starving to death. isn’t it ?
And later, pandering to that Crazy old fool that was elected Pope, can’t hurt one’s chances for advancement, can it ? Or perhaps being appointed to a nice, wealthy parish, huh ?
The thought that filthy muslims are murdering Christians, and some of them Catholics, shouldn’t preclude a little favoritism shown to them, should it ?
Just asking …………
Tom Syseskey says
Pardon my Frarbique (Frankified Arabic): Maudite dhimmitude!
Mario Alexis Portella says
Father Stephen Farragher’s actions are both wrong and deplorable! This other priest – (myself) – thinks just the opposite! https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/11/catholic-priest-islam-is-not-a-religion-of-peace-dialogue-is-useless-unless-the-quran-changes
mortimer says
Preach it, Father! And thank you.
Now, the other clergy have to be brought up to speed. This is a THEOLOGICAL QUESTION.
Mario Alexis Portella says
Indeed! We’ll eventually get there! Let’s also thank blogs such as Robert Spencer’s for informing us!
tim gallagher says
As a priest, Mario Alexis Portella, you must talk to many other priests. Could I ask you whether most priests that you talk to are awake to Islam’s nature (which I consider is the opposite of Christianity) and how many think like the priest in this report and seem to think that Islam is peaceful and can get along well with non-Muslims, including Christians? There must be a wide range of viewpoints amongst the clergy. I feel many of them seem to be pretty gullible when it comes to Islam’s nature. I think that maybe a lot of them just don’t want to think badly about anyone or any ideology. They look at the world the way Pollyanna did, with rose coloured glasses and won’t face the truth about islam.
Merri-joy says
Mario Alexis Portella, thank-you for standing up for TRUTH and exposing the lie of Islam! You are a true hero! God bless you
Mario Alexis Portella says
Thank you and please keep me in your prayers! We need to defend the truth, as you said!
GreekEmpress says
And please keep us in your prayers, Father. We’re a small Eastern Rite parish (Greek-Ruthenian). and our priest is powerful in the true word of our Lord. A lot of us are appalled at the actions of some of the Roman Rite priests.
mortimer says
Orthodox ‘Eastern’ Christians lived on the borders of Islam and have always borne the brunt of political Islam. The Assyrians are ‘The Martyr Church’, having suffered more victims of religious bigotry than any other church in the last 1400 years, since Mohammed began his cruel attacks.
RonaldB says
As a priest, perhaps you have an observation on my claim that any religion, as a religion and especially Western religions, should not mix with any other religion with respect to dogma. Religion is an identity and each religion has an integrated identity. To mix with any other religion on an interfaith basis is ludicrous. This doesn’t mean you can’t mingle with others on the basis of being neighbors or on being citizens, but a religion is a personal and well-defined identity not to be shared or merged with others.
I speak as an atheist. My doctrine is incompatible with the dogma of most (all) Western religions, so it would be destructive for me (and them) to try to find a mutually-agreeable doctrine.
If you look at Catastrophic Failure: Blindfolding America in the Face of Jihad , a very authoritative description of the systematic Muslim jihad against the West, it has a whole section on the interfaith movement, and its intended objective of destroying actual religious identity.
mortimer says
Mohammed’s doctrine is INTENTIONALLY a frontal assault on the death, resurrection and divinity of Christ. Without those three core ideas, Christianity is something else.
Mohammed’s doctrine is a frontal assault on the Byzantine Roman Empire. Mohammed wanted to replace the Roman empire and its state religion with an all-Arabian religion and an Arabian ‘caesar’ … the caliph.
Islam is not ‘just’ a religion, because religion and the Islamic empire are one.
Mario Alexis Portella says
It’s not mixing religion in as much as the Islamic doctrine calling for such carnage, which we must defend against. Yes, Catholics have not behaved in our history, but that in no way means that it was a teaching of the Church; the Gospels teach other than what Islam teaches.
Paul J says
Thank you Padre, the Christian critics can’t seem to draw that distinction; that Christians committing acts of violence and debauchery are not acting in accordance with scripture whereas muslims doing the same things are acting according to islamic doctrine. Muslims get a free pass, but all Christians get tarred with the same brush because of those committing sin. The big one being pedophilia. A homosexual priest (Bella Dodds legacy from the 20th century- the current crop are just that) gets caught committing it and all Christians are villified, a muslim rapes children (bachi boys or child brides and kaffir girls)and even the police themselves protect them. UK being a prime example. If it wasn’t for double standards these islamic apologists and facilitators wouldn’t have any. God Bless and keep up the good work. DEUS VULT.
revereridesagain says
Excellent analysis, and I speak as an atheist as well. All supernaturalist philosophies violate my basic understanding of the nature of reality and it would be pointless for me to try to cherry-pick appealing aspects of any of them.
Thank you for recommending “Catastrophic Failure” by Stephen Coughlin. Everyone who wants to understand how we got co-opted by the slaves of Allah should read that book, along with Robert Spencer’s works, and watch Coughlin’s “Red Pill” video series on the same subject.
Tony Stark says
At the Good Friday Service in every Catholic Church throughout the world, the following petition is said as a part of a series of prayers for the Church, for all Christians, for Jews, for government officials:
VIII. For those who do not believe in God
Let us pray also for those who do not acknowledge God,
that, following what is right in sincerity of heart,
they may find the way to God himself.
Prayer in silence. Then the Priest says:
Almighty ever-living God,
who created all people
to seek you always by desiring you
and, by finding you, come to rest,
grant, we pray,
that, despite every harmful obstacle,
all may recognize the signs of your fatherly love
and the witness of the good works
done by those who believe in you,
and so in gladness confess you,
the one true God and Father of our human race.
Through Christ our Lord.
R. Amen.
RonaldB says
There is a difference between praying for somebody and praying with somebody.
Mario Alexis Portella says
As RonaldB says, we have to make a distinction between praying for someone and praying with someone. Whilst we pray even for our enemies so that they may convert, that doesn’t mean that we do not point out harmful tenets that undermine the common good. We must defend ourselves, if necessary, against evil aggression as we did during World War II.
somehistory says
As one who tries to follow Christ, imperfectly of course, I have to agree with you…as does the Bible.
Christians in ancient Corinth were told by the Apostle Paul: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”
If Christians are not to socialize with someone who professes to believe in Christ, but behaves in an immoral way…ongoing, not just a failure…then even more so Christians should not be “mixing in company” with those who lie about Christ…as a habitual thing, a thing mandated by their religion, and whose practices are so far outside the commands and Laws of the Bible.
There are many other Scriptures that say similar things about “not having a sharing” with those who follow demonic ideas and inspirations.
The Jews were instructed to do likewise by the Mosaic Law. There are many Bible examples that show the folly of becoming attached spiritually with those who don’t worship the God of the Bible.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Father Portella.
Mario Alexis Portella says
I thank you and, as already mentioned, let’s be grateful that people like Robert Spencer keep us informed. God bless!
gravenimage says
🙂
James Lincoln says
Father Mario Alexis Portella,
I just reread your interview from 2018 from your provided link.
Excellent interview, keep up the great work.
You are a hero in my book!
Mario Alexis Portella says
Thanks and God bless!
Michael Copeland says
“It is unbelief (kufr) to hold that the remnant cults now bearing the names of formerly valid religions such as “Christianity” and “Judaism” are acceptable to Allah….”
Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller”, w4
mortimer says
THEOLOGY ALERT! for Christian clergy:
Islam denies and contradicts the three essential, unique Gospel teachings of Christianity: 1) the death 2) the resurrection 3) the divinity of Jesus. Those three teachings were the ‘primitive’ apostolic Gospel in the Book of Acts preached by the 12 apostles.
Islam worship is not compatible with Christian worship, since Islamic prayer is a complete denial of what makes Christianity unique … namely, those three core apostolic doctrines. Without those three, Christianity is no longer ‘apostolic’. It is heretical.
Perhaps Fr Stephen Farragher is a naïve Pollyanna, but that is not a good thing for a priest of the Apostolic church to be.
Fr Gavin Ashenden has a clear understanding of the above points.
Wellington says
And the “icing on the cake” here, mortimer, as I know you know, is that per Muslimthink the great Muslim prophet, Jesus (Isa), is coming back at the end of the world to throw all the Christians into Hell for deifying Him.
Think this foolish Irish priest knows any of what you conveyed and I have? I’d bet two Guinnesses, no make that three, that this fool does not.
mortimer says
Yes, Robert Spencer pointed out a while back that ‘Issa’ in the Koran is similar to the replicated alien replacements for humans in ‘Invasion of the Body Snatchers’.
Fr Farragher no doubt learned this verse in seminary: “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.” Gal.1.8 (Douay-Rheims)
According to this verse, the angel Jibreel and Mohammed would be accursed.
Cheers.
Keys says
Here’s another verse he should know, mortimer.
1 John 2:22-24,26
Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist.
No one who denies the Son has the Father, but whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well. … I write you these things about those who would deceive you.
This verse fits Mohammad. The anti-Christ denies Jesus is God’s son exactly as Islam teaches. Father Farragher invited the anti-Christ to his Catholic Mass !
somehistory says
Keys
Indeed, he did! And exposed the “flock” to demonic teachings. He made an endorsement of these.
mortimer says
Response to Keys re ‘anti-Christ’. A Coptic friend of my considers Mohammed to be THE Anti-Christ.
There are many points that could support that theory.
FYI says
@Keys
“The messenger of allah said ‘the most hated of men before allah on the day of resurrection and the most wretched,and the man most hated to him,will be a man called MALIK AL AMLAK{“the King of kings”}for there is no king but allah”
SAHIH MUSLIM VOL5 HADITH #5611
And who is this mysterious “King of kings” and WHY is allah’s enemy a MAN?
That can only be one person:the one named in Revs 19:16
allah’s Greatest enemy is a MAN called the “King of kings”:this is an authentic islamic source!
And who,in christian belief is the adversary of Jesus Christ?
The great deceiver:allah calls himself the greatest of schemers koran 3:54
islam with its false god,false prophet and false scripture is antiChrist.
gravenimage says
Islam also claims that the main role of “Jesus”–really, “prophet Isa”–is to *murder all Christians* in the last days. I actually consider this far more concerning than their not accepting the divinity of Christ, as Jews and many other peaceful non-Christians do.
mortimer says
GI, Theology mattered to Mohammed, even if you disagree with him. In fact, theological DOCTRINE was Mohammed’s excuse to kill, pillage, rape and torture.
Over one billion Muslims are homicidal against Christians because of this important THEOLOGICAL POINT in the Koran … Allah hates ASSOCIATORS.
Mohammed actually used the doctrine of the Trinity and the divinity of Christ as THE EXCUSE to attack Christians.
Quran 9:30 “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; MAY ALLAH FIGHT THEM TO THE DEATH (q-t-l) ; how they are turned away!”
‘Associating partners with Allah’ is the excuse Mohammed gave for Muslims to murder Christians and Jews.
(Mohammed said Jews worship Ezra and make him a ‘Son of Allah’, even though no Jew ever did.)
gravenimage says
All true, Mortimer. And for Mohammed, Islamic doctrine was largely what he said it was.
Mario Alexis Portella says
+1
Seth says
Yes, heaven forfend that a Muslim should show tolerance and lenience. Not permissible!
mortimer says
Muslims are not allowed to worship with kafirs. They must proclaim their supremacism in that context.
Diane Harvey says
“When will the Muslims invite Father Stephen Farragher to proclaim his faith[*] in Christ as the Son of God and Savior of the world in a mosque?”
* You sure about Farragher’s “faith?”
mortimer says
Fr Farragher is singing another verse of kumbyeya. He no doubt means well.
Wellington says
OMG, another useful idiot, this time in Ireland. The West is producing such useful idiots in droves these days and, quite sadly, the Roman Catholic Church, led horribly by the present Pontifex Maximus, is doing its “bit” to keep up with all the other useful idiots out there in the West.
We are witnessing before our eyes the very possible destruction of Western Civilization, easily the greatest civilization in history for an almost innumerable number of reasons, many of which I have detailed before here at JW, and this is due to, among other reasons, 1) taking freedom for granted; 2) not realizing that freedom isn’t free; 3) Western Leftism which is an enemy of freedom; 4) Islam ever increasingly present in the West and which wretched religion is most surely an enemy of freedom; 5) overall ignorance; 6) overall intellectual laziness; and 7) gooey sentimentalism which is wrapped up with foolishly trusting the heart first and foremost rather than the mind (N.B., great Western innovations like the invention of philosophy, the invention of democracy, the development of the scientific method and technological advancements the like of which no other civilization remotely comes close to were not due first and foremost to “matters of the heart” but rather to pure, cold reason).
The West remains in “collapse mode.” There is no good rationale for this. ALL the reasons for this are bad and stupid ones. Well, maybe Western Civilization can be rescued after all but it will require a sea change of current trends, which foolishly have included inviting mucho Muslims into the West, denigrating capitalism, the only economic system that has ever worked, and actually and actively criticizing Western Civilization to an absurd, tedious, insupportable and suicidal degree.
The Age of Nonsense marches on. Had its start in that putrid decade, the 1960’s, and with no end in sight. Damn.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
I very carefully read your post several times, trying to find a hole or two in your facts and logic.
I could find none, it is totally accurate – which made me very sad.
For the good of the entire world, Western civilization needs to find a way forward…
To that point:
A few strong Western leaders are trying their best. Their efforts however, always cause very fierce pushback from the left, marxist/globalists, and muslim brotherhood front groups, etc.
This is all in synergy with the leftist controlled mainstream media – constantly pushing their vile propaganda…
Please say it isn’t so!
Wellington says
Thanks, James, for your reply. And I wish I could say that what I averred about Western Civilizational collapse isn’t in the works but it is only too clear that it is—which tends to demonstrate that societal demise is more likely than not to come from within and not from without. Sure happening right now with the West and it is sad, useless and destructive beyond all measure.
Still, I will never give up—and I know that so many others who post here at JW regularly, you most certainly, will not either. After all, better dead than dominated by a totalitarian ideology, whether Islam, Western Leftism (btw, AOC serves well as the “poster girl” of what Western Leftist totalitarian ideology intends for all of America—what a colossal fool she is), Nazism, Marxism, etc.
You know, if only a polity has four things it can work and work well: 1) democracy; 2) capitalism (not to be confused with crony capitalism which so many ignorantly conflate); 3) a decent and fair legal system where justice is blind; and 4) an enlightened moral code. The Islamic world is lacking in all four—Western Leftism, Nazism and Marxism too—and if even one of these four are missing a polity cannot work optimally let alone if all four are absent.
Ah, man never learns. Should have by now but hasn’t. No one knew this truth better than the Founding Fathers of America who used reason, not sentiment, facts and not high theory, to construct the greatest polity in history—the very polity the double whammy of Islam and the Western Left are eagerly trying to destroy. Many won’t get all this but I know you will.
Hope you and those you hold most dear remain safe during these very tough times. Take good care.
James Lincoln says
Thank you for your reply, Wellington.
Spot on – as usual.
Stay healthy, and the very best to both you and yours.
PS: time for an IPA growler – and a pulled pork sandwich…
gravenimage says
Wellington, your last post about the strengths of the free world–particularly the free West–is especially salient here.
commonsense says
Wellington,
I’d argue that the “progressive” American media and universities (albeit not monolithic, as they are today) of the 1930s begat the destructive ’60s. The growing influence of the so-called progressives was arrested by our entry into WW II, but the country’s leftward march resumed shortly thereafter, becoming the dominant ideological stream by the latter part of the ’60s, the catalyst being opposition to our involvement in Viet Nam.
Wellington says
Yes, commonsense, what you assert is quite arguable. I mean, after all, liberalism became corrupted as early as the 1830’s by Louis Blanc nonsense (e.g., his 1839 work, The Organization of Labour, which had all kind of non-capitalistic foolishness in it, including workers being paid not according to their efforts but according to their needs). Shortly thereafter, you had the immensely harmful Karl Marx. And so by the 1930’s very foolish notions about how society ought to operate had been around for a long time.
Indeed, and as Victor Davis Hanson has aptly pointed out, self-criticism in the West goes the whole way back to antiquity and comes very close at times to self-loathing, the latter not at all being conducive to a healthy society. But I do think the 1960’s was the decade when the lid blew off of the pot of bad ideas here in America and other parts of the West that were working. But yes, the trail of idiocy is a long one, no doubt.
Most of the world doesn’t work. Never has. Probably never will. Collectively speaking, man is an idiot.
mortimer says
Pope Francis makes RECKLESS assumptions when he projects Christian teachings into the Koran which has 164 jihad verses, decreeing the duty of warfare against non-Muslims.
The 164 jihad verses in the Koran oppose and contradict the Sermon on the Mount that is the constitution of Christianity.
Kepha says
If I believe that Pat Robertson is a blasphemer for claiming to be a prophet long after John penned the last paragraphs of Revelation, how much more should I deny that Muhammad, who misrepresents God’s true revelation?
Boromir's Horn says
I may have given him an accidental trip down the stairs when he was finished lying
gravenimage says
Ireland: Catholic priest invites Muslims to Mass, Muslim proclaims supremacy of Islam from pulpit
……………………..
Does this dhimmi fool Father Farragher even realize this? Likely not.
More:
Mohammed Cherbatji and Mohammed Rahmani joined Fr. Farragher to seek a blessing on all frontline health care workers and frontline workers during the pandemic and pray for the eradication of the Wuhan virus. The church was reportedly empty because of the Wuhan virus restrictions.
……………………..
This Church was (sensibly, under the circumstances) empty of Christians, but this idiot priest thought that it was a good idea to bring Muslims in?
And did the two Mohammeds pray for health care workers and an end to this terrible pandemic? Of course not. Instead, they used this opportunity to declare the supremacy of Islam over Christianity.
And Muslims now consider St. Patrick’s Church to be a Mosque.
Thanks to the Church Militant for exposing this mess.
FYI says
“The church was reportedly empty because of the wuhan virus”
So it was an Ideal opportunity for the devious muslims to sneak in;what an abomination and what a disgrace this fr Farragher is.
Yet another smiley collared wonder,another Judas Priest!
I’m not in any church myself but i am absolutely fed up with these dhimmi x-tians who pretend to be “christians”
The koran CURSES Christians for believing in Jesus Christ koran 9;30
The koran DENIES Christ was even crucified koran 4:157
The koran denies the Trinity koran 4:171/5:116{Mary apparently is in allah’s misunderstanding of the Trinity”}
The koran says christians{and Jews} are the WORST of created beings koran 98:6
islam preaches a doctrine of HATE{al walaa wal baraa}:and saying the disgusting islamic “prayers” in a church is a great victory for these evil muslims.
Had this appaling “priest” defecated in his church it would be less disgusting..
2020 Ireland.In a Christian Church.. the “christian” clergyman is happy to defile his own place of worship:where are the local christians?
They should DISINFECT the building after it has been contaminated by muslims,adherents of the wicked antiChrist cult that is islam.
dhimmi “christians” like this are revolting.
In these times,Catholic or Protestant,go back to the original Bible and stay away from these Whited Sepulchres,these dhimmi priests and pastors preaching a false Gospel.
pacahamama statues in Rome,a pope who says allah is the same as God and who says the death of Jesus was a failure{= a denial of Christ},smiley priests allowing muslims to “pray” in their churches….
Kepha says
Frankie Boogaloogaloo actually said that the death of Jesus was a failure? If so, he truly is the anti-Christ!
FYI says
“Jesus..humanly speaking,ended in failure,the failure of the cross”
pope francis
{at St Patricks Cathedral NYC}
It is a matter of public record that he said this:this is a denial of everything Christians believe in as Easter celebrates the Triumph of the Cross.
“humanly speaking” you note:if he was guided by the Holy Spirit he would not publicly deny Christ.
Catholics of my acquaintance BTW are not only disgusted by this “pope” but consider him to be most likely the false prophet of Revs 13.It is not just the erroneous things he says:it is what he FAILS to do to speak up for Christians.
gravenimage says
FYI and Kepha, I had missed that from Pope Francis. Unbelievable–how can a pope understand so little about Christianity?
Kepha says
Have to say I was shocked. Paul the Apostle said that if Jesus’ resurrection didn’t happen, the whole Christian religion is false.
jca reid says
They haven’t come to integrate but to subjugate FFS!
Martin says
video
Azaan was broadcasted today in Ballyhaunis Church and was boardcasted on Radio at 10:00 today this morning.
The ballyhaunis mosque committee request all muslims, Please do the azaan at 8 o’clock this evening in/outside from your house.
Please pray to Allah to save the world from the coronavirus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R67ahjPRhiQ
Martin says
video
Mass live from st Patrick’s church Ballyhaunis Midwest Radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoz245hdsBk
Keys says
Thank you for the videos, Martin.
It is my understanding that muslims believe that once muslim prayers are said in non-muslim places of worship, that site from then on becomes a muslim mosque, or that muslims have the right to make it a mosque.
One would be hard pressed to think of a greater “abomination of desolation” !
Frank Anderson says
Keys, I am nowhere near being the scholar that GI, Wellington, Mortimer or many others show themselves to be. I think you are correct that once a muslim prays in a religious structure, it is muslim for all time thereafter. In all the books I have read, I have never read any statement to the contrary.
Keys says
Thanks for your reply, Frank. I can not remember the source of that ridiculous muslim “idea”.
Frank Anderson says
Keys, Robert Spencer’s Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam is to me the most concise of several good places to look first. GI almost certainly can point to the exact place where the instruction is given.
Frank Anderson says
Keys, as predicted Mortimer has a contribution on this question. I asked him on another story, “Taliban claims. . .”. He responded at 4/7/20 1:30 pm with a detailed comment to help both of us know more.
ntesdorf says
By asking the Muslim in, Father Stephen Farragher got what he asked for; 61:9:8 : “to make it (Islam) prevail over all the religions.
Keys says
Father Jacques Hamel’s last words on July 26, 2016 before two Islamic State terrorists slit his throat, after forcing him to his knees before the altar where he had been saying morning Mass , were ‘Va-t’en, Satan!’ — ‘Begone, Satan!’”
His last words apply to his two killers, but even more, they forever apply to Islam.
Get it, Father Stephen Farragher, you fool ?
OTTER says
Islam cannot be fought with the principles to which the West adheres. It cannot be loved, tolerated, accommodated, cajoled, bribed, sweet talked into coexistence. It can only be fought with arms for ever and ever. And since our principles do not allow that, the West and the whole world will fall to their onslaught. Look at how they march on and on, and on and no amount of writing in JW does any good. What brave men, and what utter futility.
gravenimage says
OTTER, I disagree. We don’t have to become like Muslims in order to fight Islam–we just have to recognize that Islam is a threat and oppose it, which all too few in the West have yet to do.
After all, we did not have to become Nazis in order to defeat Fascism–but we *did* have to finally recognize that the Axis was a threat, which all too many in the West were slow to do.
And I do *not* believe that educating about the threat of Islam is futile. It is slow and often frustrating, but not, I believe, fruitless. More people are waking up all the time–we cannot let up if we want this to happen in time.
Wellington says
I second your cautious optimism, gravenimage.
Paul J says
No we didn’t have to become Nazis to beat them, but we did have to shoot and bomb them in order to defeat them. Just knowing they were our enemy did nothing to stop them goose stepping over Europe and Nth Africa. We had to physically fight them. A declaration of war was issued by islam 14 centuries ago and still we have a Chamberlainisque response to that declaration. Dialogue and knowledge of the threat will not defeat islam and it’s bed partner Marxism. As Jefferson supposedly said “When dealing with Barbaric people, Force is Law”.
Paul J says
Further to that, you can only reason with reasonable people.
Paul J says
Listen to Kenny Rodgers song “Coward of the County”. Tommy’s 20 years of doing nothing didn’t save Becky from the Gatlin boys did it? But once he locked that bar room door, well. They never stepped outta line again.
gravenimage says
Actually. Paul, a lot of people in the West were favorably disposed to Fascism early on, and did not see it as a threat. People like Winston Churchill were regularly excoriated for exposing the threat of the Nazis.
Many Infidels are similarly clueless about Islam today.
You are right that merely recognizing that we face a threat is not enough to defeat that threat. but you can do nothing until the threat is recognized in the first place.
Noting that education is the first step is *not* the same as urging us to do nothing.
Wellington says
Yes, gravenimage, Paul J is correct respecting what eventually must be done when confronting those who wish either to dominate you or kill you, but you are correct that the “those” must first be properly identified, which is to say completely in the negative. We’re not even there yet as I know you are only too aware of.
Nothing can be done about Islam until Islam is seen as malevolent and highly injurious to freedom, in other words a major threat. Thereafter, the rest will follow as a matter of course but first things first as you noted.
God, what a major monstrosity Islam is and what a giant stupidity it is not realizing this.
Kepha says
Speaking as resident Christian extremist, I also disagree with Otter here. I can never, ,never never confess that Muhammad is a prophet of God. He misrepresents our Christian Trinity as God, Jesus, and Mary, rather than Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, with absolutely no comprehension of the unity of substance and trinity of persons. He says the Jews regard Ezra as the Son of God in the same way Christians see Jesus as the Son of God. The Din Muhammad glorifies physical violence as a God-ordained means of extending his religion; so that if violent Christians can be accused of hypocrisy, such a charge cannot stick to violent Muslims. Whereas the New Testament calls on me to read and heed the Old, the Qur’an excuses its readers from looking to the books it supposedly confesses as oler Scripture.
As a Christian, I confess that the state is sometimes justified in waging war, just as it is right to put to death (after due process of law) the one who defiles the image of God by murder (Gen. 9). Hence, while I by no means approve of wholesale slaughter, and will urge my fellow believers to fight with the spiritual weapons of the Gospel, prayer, and humble, grateful obedience to the ethical teachings of Scripture, I will also vote for politicians who show a reasonable concern for the security and defense of the state.
Last of all, the Gospel is not a cheklist of rules. It is the news that in Jesus the Messiah God broke into our sinful, fallen world,by taking on our nature, working obedience, and offering his sinlessness on the cross in place of our sin, truly tasting of death (the wages of sin) for us, and conquering death in his resurrection. I accept that gift which God has given me. As long as Islam reduces the high demands of the divine Law in to a handful of ritualistic actions, denies the radial nature of human sin, and denies the atonement made by Christ, I cannot accept Muhammad’s message, and cannot but see him as an imopster and blasphemer.
Don says
2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Wellington says
Not to be difficult, Don, but this is not good advice at this time (or many other times). I am not impressed, indeed opposed, to this sentiment from 2 Corinthians. Here’s why: When facing iniquity, and Islam is iniquitous, the broadest possible coalition against it is optimal. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, agnostics (including yours truly), atheists, etc. need to band together and oppose the one religion that wants to enslave the world under its domination.
Rethink matters here if you will. And if you disagree with me, I’d be interested in an argument from you as to why.
Kepha says
I am in complete agreement with Don. The hollow men who not only fill their heads with straw but are cowards into the bargain will never become real defenders of the West. They are cheese-eating surrender monkeys down to the very marrow of their bones and last corpuscle. Indeed, they are as dangerous or even more dangerous to the West than the Muslims. Their tolerance and utter lack of patriotism are the true last refuges of the scoundrel.
Who was it who threw the gates of the West wide open to Islam? Who gets in the way of any meaningful resistance to Islam? The same who mistook the seat of the scornful for the place of wisdom (Psalm 1), the sexual libertines, and the radical feminists, and those brave, brave, brave secular inhumanists. Add those who insist on the exorcism of the Christian God from our public life. These are the people who pretend to be brave defenders of the First Amendment when they despise Christ and Christians, but who are oh-so-respectful of Islam because they know they could end up like Theo van Gogh if they treat Islam the way they treat the religion of their own grandparents. Were I a half-century-pus younger, I’d dance around them with my thumbs stuck in my armpits singing “cluck-cluck-cluch-AHHH!”
Should the garbage really hit the fan (and I pray God would not enter into such a judgment with his servants), the radical feminists will be the firt to recite the shehada and accept real sexual slavery. The Gaystapo that would ruin the livelihood of aged florists and bakers will meekly drop their pants to be sodomized before being thrown off buildings. Already, before Islamic blasphemy law are in place, the “ekkijaters” teach that “Islam preserved science” (pure bunk if ever there was such), will meekly confess however many spheres Buraq passed through and that the sun sets in a murky pool somewhere accessible to Dul-qarim when the Islamic knife is at their throats.
Our civilization’s leaders chose the path they want us to tread, and it is an apostate one. Look at all the Westenr countries that have passed further donw that path, and they are being assaulted with impunity in their own streets.
gravenimage says
Agree, Wellington. *All* good people need to stand together against the threat of Islam.
somehistory says
“lenience” has the meaning, basically, of showing “mercy,” or “clemency.”
Who are moslims to show “mercy” or “clemency”? Just as they don’t know the True and Living God of the Bible, mankind’s Creator, neither do they know “mercy.”
This whole entire idea of inviting moslims in to “prey” with those who profess to believe in Christ…by those who profess to be leading others to Christ, and profess to be teaching, counseling others in following Christ, profess to be shepherding the flock, is beyond despicable.
But then, this guy who professes to be doing those things, calls himself “Father” and expects the “flock” to do so. Jesus commanded, “Do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have One Father, and He is in heaven (Matthew 23:9)).”
Marigold says
Dear Robert,
Unbelievable! Though perhaps not considering Pope Francis allowed the worship of a pagan idol in the Vatican. Is there any wonder that we are plagued by the corona virus because heresy and idolatry are very grave sinsl because they mock God and there is no worse heresy than Islam
Rufolino says
What is the “pagan idol” being worshipped in the Vatican, please ? I missed that.
gravenimage says
Marigold, I doubt the corona virus exists because of heresy and idolatry–after all, Muslims think it exists because women don’t cover their ankles.
As for the rest, people can make up their own minds:
“Who is Pachamama? Did Pope Francis worship pagan idol in the Vatican?”
https://www.ibtimes.sg/did-pope-francis-worship-pagan-idols-vatican-pachamama-statue-row-flares-34356
JOANNE BENNETT says
There action was more of a disrespectful child toward a parent. Apparently, they are not aware of their own history. Muhammad was born well after the death after our Lord and savior Jesus Christ on April 22, 571 AD. He may be nothing more than a epigone.
Kepha says
May Muhammad end up an ever-gone.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Wow, what an interesting exchange. Thank you, Father Portella, for kicking it off and for your bravery and honesty. May your good work bear fruit. As for confronting the horror that is Islam, we all have work to do. As for the dunce in Ireland, nuff said.
ploome says
dear Robert;
May God bless you and keep you
the ‘churches’ hate the Jews more
OLD GUY says
Islam the “religion” of the dictator, the perfect set of rules to intimidate and control for world domination through fear and violence.
Larry says
Cardinal Burke for Pope.
Alex Benziger says
Idiot just like Pope Francis
Yogi says
Traitor for the all Christians in Europe, despicable..
Im4truth4all says
This ignorant priest needs to consider the following from the Patron Saint of Priests.
“We shall find out at the day of judgment that the greater number of Christians who are lost were damned because they did not know their own religion.” – St. Jean-Marie Vianney
“A priest goes to Heaven or a priest goes to Hell with a thousand people behind.” – St. Jean-Marie Vianney
wpm says
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions”,fools are tools of Islam .