Hussain “initially appeared calm” and then attacked the two police officers without any provocation or warning. “Then with no warning whatsoever he punched the male officer in the face knocking him backwards….However the female was more seriously injured with a bruised and swollen cheek, a bloodied nose, a cut to the inside of her mouth and cuts and abrasions to her hands and arms as a result of her falling to the ground.”
Investigators in shattered, staggering, dhimmi Britain will almost certainly not investigate the possibility that Hussain’s odd attack might have had something to do with the fact that the Islamic State issued this call in September 2014: “So O muwahhid, do not let this battle pass you by wherever you may be. You must strike the soldiers, patrons, and troops of the tawaghit. Strike their police, security, and intelligence members, as well as their treacherous agents. Destroy their beds. Embitter their lives for them and busy them with themselves. If you can kill a disbelieving American or European — especially the spiteful and filthy French — or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war, including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State, then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be….If you are not able to find an IED or a bullet, then single out the disbelieving American, Frenchman, or any of their allies. Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him, or poison him.”
“Policewoman brutally battered in Handsworth street – even when she pleaded with thug to stop,” by Ross McCarthy, Birmingham Mail, April 19, 2020:
Kadeer Hussain punched a male officer then pursued the woman officer – punching her so hard she fell to the floor and then carried on his attack as she lay on the ground
A policewoman was brutally attacked by a man in a Birmingham street following a 999 call.
Kadeer Hussain, who also assaulted the woman’s colleague, was jailed for two years following the savage attack.
The 38-year-old, of Upper Grosvenor Road, Handsworth, had previously been found guilty following a trial at Birmingham Crown Court of two charges of assault.
The court heard how the two officers responded to a call to an incident on May 2 last year and went to the street in Handsworth where the defendant lived.
They had been trying to find out the reason for the call when they were approached by Hussain who initially appeared calm.
Richard McConaghy, prosecuting at Birmingham Crown Court added: “Then with no warning whatsoever he punched the male officer in the face knocking him backwards.
“He then immediately punched the female officer in the face causing her nose to start to bleed.
“Hussain then pursued the woman officer, punching her so hard she fell to the floor and then carried on his attack as she lay on the ground
“She pleaded with him to stop as he repeatedly struck her in the face.
“Her colleague then pulled the defendant away and using a spray, although Hussain kept coming towards him.”
He continued to struggle after being handcuffed when police reinforcements arrived and had to be carried to the police van.
Mr McConaghy told the court the male officer suffered some pain and blurred vision.
However the female was more seriously injured with a bruised and swollen cheek, a bloodied nose, a cut to the inside of her mouth and cuts and abrasions to her hands and arms as a result of her falling to the ground….
Judge Sarah Buckingham said: “It was a sustained assault upon her. You clearly have a problem with authority….
She said she had taken into account that there had been a breakdown in Hussain’s mental health at the time.
Amanda O’Mara, defending, said the defendant had already spent 11 months in custody on remand.
She said it was a spontaneous act by Hussain who had previously had “issues with the police.”
jca reid says
WONDER WHY HE WOULD ATTACK 2 PERSONS UNPROVOKED? CAN’T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIS RELIGION, CAN IT?
Captnhook says
If the men in the UK don’t actfast they will all be living under sharia law…..So sad for such a dominate country to kill itself.
Chaim Silver says
he will only get a slap on the wrist. the brittish are now poop[ scared of the islamists and their no go areas.
Halal Bacon says
garbage in, garbage out
terry sullivan says
2 years–make it life–gbh can attract life tariff
also after sentence–deport
yokel says
Two year sentence. 50% “good conduct” sentence remission (necessary to prevent overcrowding in prison. 11 months in custody awaiting trial taken as time already served. He will be out in a week’s time, well prepared by his training in prison to do it all again, and again and …
yokel says
Why don’t we, the electorate, change it, you may ask. Just be aware that the permanent “Civil Servants” in the Home Office have form with capturing or evicting the ministers sent to direct policy in their department. The Home Office is out of democratic control and continues with its own policies regardless of directions by ministers from both Labour and Tory parties. No-one has the clout or willingness to do anything successful about it. Those ministers who try tend to find some scandal reaching the press PDQ, with being removed shortly thereafter.
Undaunted says
Hey, the lady cop decided she wanted to get a badge and play with the bog boys and got her ass handed to her as a result. She had to have some thought that she’d be assaulted sooner or later so, in my view, she asked for it.
Prateek says
Most illogical thing ever read.
Undaunted says
Read it till it makes sense, then.
C.Moore says
Terrible reasoning, what kind of idiot thinks like this? A stupid one! It’s this kind of
“Stupid” gawd almighty,
IT VOTES!!
Undaunted says
Are you referring to me? If so, perhaps you need to back the fuck up and read the rest of what I’ve written here.
Undaunted says
Skip it, C. Don’t bother. Looking at what you wrote, especially the last “sentence”, tells me you don’t have the intellect to understand what I wrote … you couldn’t find your ass with a 12-man posse.
Mary says
No police officer asks to be assaulted. It maybe part of the job but it is NOT ASKED FOR.
Undaunted says
That depends on the perspective from which you’re viewing the situation, doesn’t it? I can see your perspective in the few words you wrote above. From the perspective of bad-guys on the street – especially Muslim bad-guys – female cops are inviting attacks. Super-predators are looking for an opportunity to dominate everyone and everything they can, this includes cops … especially cops. Since they see cops as threats, super-predators tend to be extra violent against them when confrontations come. The super-predators intend to win these confrontations so they will pick the weakest cop around to attack. These are just the infidel super-predators. Muslim super-predators are motivated even more deeply to defeat lady cops because lady cops have “legal authority” over them, something that Muslims are against.
So, any girl that wants to be a cop needs to understand that she is more at risk of attack than her brother officers. If she doesn’t understand that, then she is willingly – by way of her ignorance – putting herself in situations where bad-guys feel invited or permitted to attack her. She is also putting her brother officers in danger because she’s probably weak and timid and will require a brother officer to come to her aid simply because she can’t or won’t defend herself. There are also male officers who by their size, level of fitness and demeanor invite attacks. I know these things from personal experience, having spent over 30 years in law enforcement and counter-terrorism. Your perspective is counterfeit.
underbed cat says
Your 30 years in law enforcement and counter terrorism allows you and female partners to have guns, in this female police officer’s case the male officier had no weapon either if they don’t allow officers to carry weapons of defense they both are in harms way. I am not sure being female is always a problem, although I know I don’t ;have strenght, some woman do have it although I agree we are physically built different.
Save Europe says
OR – inadvertently what you’re saying is that women shouldn’t join the Police Force – which is ironically what Islam would want.
‘She asked for it’ – also is not unlike the hard dogma espoused by Muslim men, after a woman ‘gets something she supposedly deserves.’
There’s a great deal of irony in your thinking and posts.
Btw – I work in ‘policing.’
Undaunted says
Save Europe; if you’re in Europe and “in policing” you don’t know what I’m talking about. Crossing guards and hall monitors in elementary schools are “in policing”.
Wellington says
Undaunted: Your take on this “incident” is, as I know you know, highly politically incorrect, which, all things considered, makes it closer to the truth than otherwise in this exceedingly silly age in which we live.
Frankly, I am not absolutely certain where the truth lies here but I will never discount what YOU have to say where matters of any kind of police work are concerned. I do think it arguable that the WAY you stated the situation was not optimal (…”in my view, she asked for it.”) but this does NOT negate in and of itself the accuracy of your assessment—far from it (and sorry to bother you about diplomacy here, quite secondary when dealing with the veracity of any statement, in this instance yours).
A la Orwell, people sleep soundly in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. I’m sure Orwell didn’t have female cops in mind when he made this statement and this can only vindicate you (always good, you know, to have Orwell on your side).
Well, I’ve gone on long enough except to say, like you, I am exceedingly tired of pretend games, including thinking that women are the equal of men in all respects. No, they’re not. No woman will ever play linebacker for the Seahawks, forward for the Sixers or pitch for the Yankees. This is just the way of things and I have no doubt that in a state of nature men would dominate women. Or, as I have put it being the lawyer I am, men need the law and women need it even more.
As ever I remain
Incorrigibly, conservatively and non-Islamically yours,
Wellington
P.S. Hope you and those you hold most dear are doing well.
Save Europe says
Don’t patronise me ‘Undaunted’.
You seem quite volatile.
I was NOT patronising you. Instead of reasonable and decent responses, you choose to insult.
I do not work in the protection of schools, and have served in the military. How dare you insult, without knowing me.
I was in the Marines for over a decade and you choose to patronise me!
You’re a big head, ultimately.
Mural says
A bit off-tangent, is there any way/ body language to thwart these attacks, based on your experience? Would the methods of self-preservation change with gender?
Thanks.
Mural says
Would you have the courage to tell this to that lady’s face? That she asked for it? Or, would that be too daunting for you?
Undaunted says
Wow. You don’t know me but you want to get snarky.
Years ago I was a Military Police Officer working a very violent beat outside an OCONUS military installation. As a squad of Army MPs, we fought gad-guys just about every night. Most of the fights were conducted one-on-one, man-to-man. We all knew we could end up fighting a bad-guy(s) alone and so we would have to win with maximum force of violence or hang on till help arrived.
As supervisor of this group of strong and brave young men, I once had a female MP come to me and ask, “Sergeant Undaunted, can I work with you and your guys downtown tonight?” This woman was young and in shape and she knew her job. But she didn’t know “downtown”, it was a different animal than what she was facing on her beat inside the wire. I asked her politely, “Can you kick my ass?” She said no and I replied that when she could, she could come work with us downtown. Weeks later, after she had seen the violence with we dealt almost every night, she came to me and thanked me for saying no.
So, yes. I have in fact told this to a ladies’ face. I have also spoken with young women who are interested in a law enforcement career and when I ask if they’re ready or can become ready for street violence that can kill them, they usually say no. To be fair, young men I’ve spoken with sometimes say no but far less frequently than the ladies.
So, your sarcasm is misplaced.
Mural says
Fair enough. Thanks for your detailed reply. There are a few Muslim apologists here. Thought you were one too. My bad. What you posted subsequently makes sense.
Jedothek says
I have no experience with law enforcement , but I shall offer my opinion for what it’s worth. I have no problem with women as police officers and soldiers ; but what I DO have a problem with is what has apparently happened several times: lowering physical standards for police departments , fire departments and army units so that women can qualify. The standards were probably put in place for good reasons, and if a woman cannot meet them, she can get another job.
Undaunted says
Thank you, Mural. Enjoy the day.
Undaunted says
Mural, thank you for the question. Self-defense/preservation methods wouldn’t change much based on gender. What comes into play is the general size/weight difference between male and female and then the gender of the attacker v. the gender of the attacked. A female being attacked by a larger male would use the same methods but would have to adjust a bit based on such considerations as that weight difference, center of gravity shift, and relative strength of attacker v. attacked. My training was in police self-defense and bodyguard protective tactics and it’s been years since I used either. In my book I recommend people web-search the free Krav Maga videos and study those. That would be a great freeeeee source.
Body language is the first line of deterrence. Don’t look like you don’t know what you’re doing, do not show fear, bad-guys and girls can spot it a mile away and will exploit it to their advantage. Keep your hands out of your pockets. Face potential attackers directly and be ready to run or fight, depending on what you’ve prepared for in advance. These are some things that may help thwart an attack.
Cheers.
keith says
IDIOT!
No cop, male or female asks to be bashed by a grub.
Undaunted says
I’ll rephrase for those of you who can’t wrap your heads around this truth.
Many people behave in ways that invite bad people to take advantage of them. Some of these weak people are police officers you trust to take care of you. They can’t even take care of themselves.
So, how many of you are pissed because all of a sudden you’re painfully aware that you can’t trust cops to protect themselves so you can’t trust them to protect you and those you love so SUDDENLY you have to do it yourselves?
I’m not an idiot, I happen to know exactly what the fuck I’m talking about.
Undaunted says
Oh, and fuck you, keith.
Scheherazade Smith says
I think I’m in love with you.
And yet I’m so new to the site.
Save Europe says
Swearing now?
Pathetic. Doesn’t show much pragmatic intelligence, or the ability to debate.
Undaunted says
I pretty much swear all the time, Save Europe.
Re your note above: thanks for your service in the Marines.
LB says
I was just about to write something similar along those lines, but you said it better than I could. Fact of the matter is that women in police force (and military for that matter) are practically useless when it comes down to it. Any idiot can drive around in a patrol car, but not many can act with determination of putting their life on the line for the sake of civilians; this goes for both men and women, but especially women since they are biologically prone to give in to their emotions instead of acting rationally (anyone who’s been in a relationship with a woman knows this). Not to mention the physical capabilities required to face the scum of society (made up entirely of men) head on.
Here’s a good example of this that happened a few days ago:
https://nypost.com/2020/04/17/video-shows-handcuffed-maniac-kick-nypd-cop-onto-subway-tracks/
Reading the comments of all these white knights in the thread is absolutely hilarious. It’s a dead giveaway that none of them have ever been in a physical fight in their lives. While not exclusively political, JW is inherently an anti-Leftist site (which is good), but their arguments are the same as Leftists that claim “men and women are equal”, which is wishful thinking at best. Socially, men and women are (and should be) treated the same, without a doubt; but biologically they are heaven and earth, each designed with their own duties/roles in life. Anyone who argues this isn’t even worth having a discussion with.
Also, thank you for your service, Undaunted. While I’m not American (Eastern European here), I have a cousin who’s dealing with criminals every day and he went through hellish training to be accepted in one of the top units for suppressing crime. I’ve seen the pictures and each member of that unit is a +190cm (that’s around 6’3” I think) ripped monster. And guess what? There are no women in that unit. In fact, there are no women police officers in the entire police force, except the ones in stations who are working as dispatch and doing paperwork. I wonder why…
Undaunted says
Thanks, LB.
Giacomo Latta says
Is either cop going to stand by and smile with warm cockles in their heart the next time their assignment is to cover a ”they are not dangerous, they are in danger” parade?
gravenimage says
Yes–clearly, the problem here is those uppity women. Why, you’d never had such a problem in a Muslim country…
KGB King says
absolutely disgusting. This radical or extremist should be getting life imprisonment for this heinous act!
Jim says
This is the time when a police officer draws their weapon and fires at the attacker.
Oh wait, police officers are unarmed in the UK.
I wonder who came up with the bright idea to not arm police officers?
underbed cat says
A person who lives in fantasy land……pre-Islami migration, that said Islam is a “religion of peace” not knowing it lives in a state of war in foreign lands untill sharia is the law of the land, which they claim is the state of peace) and they learn that they must fight kaffars as a duty… as the population and influence grows they are able to pull off individual attacks to strike fear into the heart of the infidel….until they take power. Knowledge would have prevented this dilemma, a simple reading of the Quran or sharia law in English….would explain the problem potential to be on alert or have a armed police force. It would remove the other “birght idea” most likely taught at M.E. funded universities that poverty explains violence….nope not true……the adherence and mind control of the book they read, and the imam they listen to has a much greater impact. How long do they intend to wait until the country is the Islamic Republic of England.??? The new leader has some work ahead.Serious problem one that China is dealing with, and look what happened, who knew China had the same migration or conversion problem…my suspicions are this virus was released on China. Curious if they will continue their struggle to change destiny the migrants have in mind for England and Europe and in the Western world. Good fact driven intelligence saves lives and countries.
Radhakrishna Bhandary says
And we in India have realised it and are trying hard to turn things back for the good. Our PM and the ruling party is hated by the Islamists. Check out this interview from a leader who is hated by the Islamists and they are trying desperately to stop him from being in the ruling party. Check this out – https://youtu.be/MCyBL8dBOEo
Mural says
+1
Janice Mermikli says
The police force in the UK (which was the first in the world, incidentally, founded by Roberr Peel in 1829) is different from other police forces in that we have “policing by consent” and the police enjoy a generally high level of trust among the general public. That is why they are, for the most part, unarmed, although they do carry tasers. To arm our policemen on the beat would be to change the relationship between them and the citizens.
However, on the other hand, the increasing Islamic terrorism on top of a lot more violent crime in general in our society are presenting the police force with some tough challenges. I don’t have the answers, but I do believe that our poiice officers need more protection, especially if they are in the front line.
pragmatist says
The British policing methods were founded and devised to deal with a population who probably later ranked as one of the most law abiding in the world – to the extent that at one point they reduced the physical requirements for entry (largely to accommodate ethnic minority entrants in fact) while asserting that they could cope with any problems. I once asked a WPC, who was only about five feet tall, how on earth she was supposed to cope with a large aggressive male, and she explained that they were trained to reason with people rather than to deal with them physically – ‘good luck with that’ I remember thinking at the time. Nowadays, however, it is a completely different scenario, and the UK (and other European) Police Forces, are now having to deal with types and levels of crimes not previously encountered and for which they are singularly ill equipped, in all respects. As the inevitable continuation of mass immigration results in an increase of this criminality things will only get worse and unless the mindset of the UK police changes their effectiveness will be sadly reduced.
gravenimage says
Muslims are not like generally civilized and law-abiding Britons.
Michael Copeland says
“…a breakdown in Hussain’s mental health at the time.”
Here we go again.
PRCS says
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that HE really does have mental issues:
the label does seem to be just a bit overused.
Undaunted says
Yeah, what you said.
gravenimage says
If Muslims *really were* so prone to mental illness this in and of itself should be recognized as a problem.
keith says
Of course there was a breakdown in his mental health.
It started with his second visit to a mosque.(the first he didn’t know what he was getting into)
Honest Ali says
“She pleaded with him to stop as he repeatedly struck her in the face… she said she still suffered flashbacks and could “still see him coming towards me.”
She is not police material.
underbed cat says
The perp is not good citizen material, unless they break the hard drive thought patten of his brain. He would see any police person, especially a woman in the same light, they are taught to view non muslims as the worst of all people so they think they have the obligation to insult or harm.
Undaunted says
Absolutely correct.
Save Europe says
I think if you’d omitted the ‘she asked for it’ from your original posts, most wouldn’t disagree with you at all, that only the very proven, toughest women should be involved in rough and tough areas. I don’t disagree with that. Much like selection for the S.B.S, for example.
Undaunted says
Okay, I see your point. I also said and maintain that things she did and didn’t do which manifest her weakness INVITED the attack. I will further state that with super-predators of any stripe, ANY weakness manifest is seen as an invitation for aggression and violence.
Save Europe says
Okay look….deep down we are all on the same page here – literally and metaphorically.
We are all p****d off with Islam.
I AM an ex former Marine in the U.K., and DO work in policing. Putting people down on this site, isn’t fair.
All I said was – your wording – ‘she deserved it’ IS overly harsh. In truth, it’s TOO much.
You need to be a little less acerbic.
I never questioned your former, alleged, forms of work, but your responses to me I found deeply deeply offensive – by saying I was some crossing guard etc
Undaunted says
Please scroll up and find that I did not – as you have just asserted – say ‘she deserved it’. What I wrote is, “she asked for it.” And then after that, I offer several other comments supporting my claim, which will stand by because I’m right. Please take the time to read the entire thread here and not fly off your handlebars over insult you may or may not be justified in feeling.
There is a distinct difference between “she deserved it” and “she asked for it”. How many times have you asked for something you richly deserved and then were not given it?
I also wrote, “if you’re in Europe and “in policing” you don’t know what I’m talking about.” I imagine some of the insult you felt flowed from that. Hey, policing in the US and UK is different. Policing in the US Military is different than policing in US civilian police agencies. So, you really don’t know what I’m talking about because you’ve not been “in policing” the way I have. That’s not an insult. As for my mention of hall monitors and crossing guards, I did not call you a crossing guard or a hall monitor – as though either or both are pejorative – but merely wrote that both are considered forms of “policing”. You were unclear as to what exactly you meant by “in policing” and I wanted to find out what you meant. So … now I know.
Me, acerbic? I’ve been accused of that a number of times in my life. Yup. I get a bit frosty when I see insipid comments such as some I’ve read in this thread, especially when I read from anyone in general but from Mural in particular today something as blissfully ignorant as, “Would you have the courage to tell this to that lady’s face? That she asked for it? Or, would that be too daunting for you?”
Hey, let’s try to be friends.
Out.
The Hittite King says
I am so angry. I can’t stand to see people who treat women so badly. This terrorist f*ck needs some fist. Or even maybe get killed. F*ck his dirty muslim beard.
wpm says
A lead injection into his brain would cure his “mental illness” for good .Islam is a mental illness ,the perfect man Mohammad was a violent,paranoia,rapist ,child molester,he was only trying to be like the “perfect man” Mohammad.
GOLDMANN says
“Wpm”.????‼️
Undaunted says
So, wpm and goldmann; you guys got guns and ready to do the deed cited above? You’re both armed properly and legally, trained and dedicated? Both ready to cap some fucker because he’s got it comin’?
As for EDC, what do you guys tote?
Undaunted says
You two knuckleheads, wpm and goldmann, need to study the English language and how to properly write it, including punctuation and not over-doing it on stinky, stupid emoticons.
But, back on task with you two …
wpm, you evidently have the gear and the badass-ness with which to make a lead injection into the brain of this particular Muslim. Right? Else why would you write as though it were so. And goldmann, you’re his batman, right? So, you’re similarly equipped and just as bad-ass as wpm, one assumes from your multiple emoticons.
There’s a book I recommend you two read and learn well. You can find it here: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B075Z4PLKC/?coliid=I1TC5WJF76EW0P&colid=356Q5MZA1TQS0&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it_im
Yeah, I wrote it. Enjoy.
Scheherazade Smith says
He writes books, too. Swoon.
Would you like some tea, Sir? x
Undaunted says
Um … just one book, miss – thank you – though I have written scads of tactical training programs for … others.
I’m 63, married and drink black coffee and bourbon.
You’re very kind.
6woods says
Give it a rest, “Scheherazade”. This is Jihad Watch, not Plenty of Fish.
Undaunted says
Thanks for the touch of humor, Scheherazade.
Crusader 666 says
He will be released next week! In staggering, shattered, Dhimmi Britain, Muslim’s are NEVER punished, no matter how violent they are!
Like the saying goes: “If you want to find who has the power in a society, ask who you are not allowed to criticise!
Naram-Sin says
“She said she had taken into account that there had been a breakdown in Hussain’s mental health at the time.”
I’m glad the court realized that Islam is a mental disorder, but what can you do? So, time served.
Anjuli Pandavar says
What was the f-ing point of Brexit?! “Taking control” — yeah, right.
Save Europe says
From my perspective solely –
1) to stop the EU pushing quotas on the UK to take in Muslim illegal invaders
2) to stop Muslim migrants who had received – primarily – Swedish, Dutch, Danish, French, Belgian and German passports coming to the UK legally, vis their ‘new nationalities.’
This man is likely a Pakistani who came here legally, due to the Commonwealth scenario. What you SHOULD have said was – UK needs to BAN Muslim migration from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia and India – the four problem countries in the world, we seem to be allowing Muslims to come in, from. They’re the four groups who cause so much detritus in the UK.
Anjuli Pandavar says
From my perspective:
1. To free Parliament to make laws without reference to EU law, a mechanism for enabling jihad
2. To free the criminal justice system to enforce laws without reference to the European Court of Justice, a mechanism for enforcing jihad
The absence of 1 and 2, aided and abetted by dhimmier-than-thou politicians, has made it possible for the country to have no control over Muslims, who, in may important ways, have come to control the country. Achieving 1 and 2 merely creates the formal conditions for taking control back from Muslims.
Clearly, there has, as yet, been no follow-through. Will there ever be? If not, then what was the point of Brexit?
Wellington says
Fine post, Anjuli Pandavar.
And yes, Brexit is just the first step to reclaiming truth, justice and sanity. Many more steps will be needed. Many.
Globalism is an abject failure and discounts, egregiously, the optimal (though not perfect, but what the hell is on this planet?) “approach” to humans dealing with each other. I refer to the nation state which has more merit to it than city-states, empires, clearly (God forbid) any world government, et al.
I vote for the nation state regarding polities as I vote for democracy regarding governmental options, to wit, the worst with the exception of all the others.
Save Europe says
Essentially all you are admitting – or extending on – is what I said to you.
De-islamifying my country.
People like me loathe the ECJ and ECHR, and that was why so many of us voted out.
I’m not sure where you reside, but if it’s not in the U.K., then, respectfully, you have no idea. So, rather than post some passive aggressive anti British post then LEARN about why Brexiteers voted out.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Save Europe, respectfully,
What makes my post anti-British?
Is residence in the UK a precondition for having an idea about Britain?
Since I cannot have any idea about Britain if I am not resident there, how am I to “LEARN about why Brexiteers voted out”?
But since we are now lecturing people whom we know nothing about, may I just point out a few things:
I was not telling you “What you SHOULD have said.” That was *your* opening gambit.
I can see absolutely no grounds for making the following three assumptions, “This man is likely a Pakistani who came here legally, due to the Commonwealth scenario,” hence I made no such assumptions.
It would never cross my mind to say, “UK needs to BAN Muslim migration from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia and India,” right after I’d just said, “to stop Muslim migrants who had received …Swedish, Dutch, Danish, French, Belgian and German passports coming to the UK legally, vis their ‘new nationalities,” even if you think I “SHOULD” have said it. That’s six completely different countries to the first four, and from *both* groups, according to you, migration is *legal* (if they were illegal, you’d have no idea where they were from). So I guess “1) to stop the EU pushing quotas on the UK to take in Muslim illegal invaders,” is not really relevant.
I suppose that if, “This man is likely a Pakistani who came here legally, *due to the Commonwealth scenario*,” then the EU is not relevant here either. So I’m unclear as to why you, “loathe the ECJ and ECHR.”
So you see? I was neither “admitting – [n]or extending on,” anything you said. I’m still struggling to figure out what you said. What does seem to be coming across, though, is a deep-seated bigotry towards both Muslims and the EU. If you had actual grounds for your intense dislike for these two, that would be a different matter, but you don’t. Or if you do, then you haven’t mentioned them. Bigotry often goes hand in hand with incoherence, and of that we’ve seen plenty. I think I have pretty strong grounds for making some assumptions about you. I resigned from UKIP because of people like you.
abad says
Precisely why I would never go to the UK. Too many Moslems running and ruining the country.
Wellington says
Last went to the UK in 1998, abad, and this was just about the time that the hyper destruction of liberty (which destruction began in the 1960’s) in the UK was “installed,” courtesy of Tony Blair’s tenure as Prime Minister (1997-2007).
Blair still remains, to my knowledge, as stupidly ignorant about Islam as does Bush 43. Tired of both men (and I voted for Bush twice). Exceedingly. They’re each, I think, going to their grave not realizing that their shilling for Islam has done enormous damage to their respective countries and to the West at large.
FYI says
You mentioned Tony Blair..
This is from The Complete infidel’s guide to the koran by Robert Spencer {which I may be permitted to reproduce here}
“To me,the most remarkable thing about the koran is how progressive it is.The koran is inclusive.It extols science and knowledge and abhors superstition.It is practical and far ahead of its time in attitudes towards marriage,women and governance”
Tony Blair
{A battle for global values,foreign affairs jan-feb 2007}
Progressive…inclusive..:That’s Leftardspeak.
As for the case that it “extols science”,the scientific miracles nonsense in the koran has been widely debunked.
Attitudes towards women?In islam women have HALF the value of a man…
Blair was the man who opened the floodgates allowing mass islamic immigration into the UK:this lefty-globalist policy was of course followed by David Cameron with the catastrophic consequences we see today in that country.
Wellington says
Very much seconded, FYI.
Oh, the amount of damage Blair did to Britain will take a long time to calculate, assuming, of course, that truth prevails, which the ignorant Blairs of the world and the inimical forces out there (gee, Islam comes to mind here) will do their best to counter.
Always a struggle between truth and the antithesis of truth. Blair does not, DOES NOT, align with the former and continues to make excuses for the latter. Shame on him forever.
I have “developed” zero respect for the man and I have no doubt that were Winston Churchill still here he would be in accord with me, assuming he could openly express his opinion which seems in great jeopardy these days in the modern UK—thanks to not a minimal degree to Tony Blair.
PaulH says
“Blair was the man who opened the floodgates allowing mass islamic immigration into the UK:this lefty-globalist policy was of course followed by David Cameron with the catastrophic consequences we see today in that country.’
Easily the worst PM Britain’s had in my lifetime. Worse than Thatcher-and that’s saying something.
gravenimage says
I think Thatcher would have been apt to see the threat of Islam.
Save Europe says
It wasn’t a fine post by the Indian Gent to myself, W.
He was merely extending on what I said, after he had posted a provocative, asinine post.
tim gallagher says
Everywhere in the world Muslims seem to be all too regularly suddenly flying off into out of control rage. I believe it is the ideology they are brought up in far more than mental illness. I think they are brought up with a sense of entitlement and also a them or us mentality of hating non-Muslims and, therefore, have a very bad attitude towards all non-Muslims and towards infidel law. The attitude is taught in basic Islam. Therefore, they also hate the police. A recent example in Australia, where I live, was the Muslim woman flying off into a rage and spitting on a police officer who had pulled her over for speeding. I believe that most Muslims just have a rotten attitude to all of us non-Muslims and it is as if they think that police or other infidels should not dare to bother them. After all, these low life maggots are taught that they are the “best” of people, even though they are complete barbarians and their behaviour so often shows that they are the worst of people.
Wellington says
Seconded, tim gallagher. Whether in Australia, here in America, or anywhere in the West where stupidity has reigned by way of exculpating Islam, the nonsense just continues on.
So sad to see the West destroyed from within while only quite recently destroying two enemies without, i.e., Nazism and Communism. Well, got to hand it to Islam because it hides its iniquities far better than Hitler’s creed or Marx’s creed. Yeah, here Mohammed “did well.”
“Best” and most influential tyrant ever. No contest.
tim gallagher says
I agree with your comment, Wellington. How islam, despite its horrendous 1400 year history of slaughtering and oppressing people, along with all the Muslim terrorist attacks, Muslim rape gangs and all the other disgusting behaviours (child brides, etc), still is respected by so many people in our societies is hard to believe. Almost everyone loathes Nazism and mass murderous Communism and yet islam is respected by many people. Muslims commit so many atrocities and yet many people still seem to feel that islam is just another religion, not so different to the other religions. Islam has certainly conned many people very successfully. I have met some Muslims that did seem OK, though I would never really trust them, and I didn’t know them very well. However, I believe that most Muslims are taught at home, in mosques, etc, to have a bad (maybe a shitty attitude is a better way to put it) attitude to all non-Muslims and they display their hostility in the way they behave over and over again. I keep thinking that all our countries have to wake up and keep Muslims out. Nothing else can work. You’re right about how successful Muhammad (if he even existed and wasn’t just fabricated later on ) was as a tyrant.
Phil Copson says
Draping a rasher of bacon around a mosque door-handle got Kevin Curran a one-year sentence and he died in prison: On the other hand, attacking two police officers apparently merits just two years…….?
How is carrying-out two violent attacks only twice as reprehensible as the ham-on-handle incident ?
What these sentences have in common, is that in both cases the judges’ main objective appears to have been ingratiate themselves with muslims.
(Ditto the recent non-custodial sentence given to the muslim solicitor who carried-out a sustained and violent attack on a female colleague in a London street.)
gravenimage says
Yes–utter insanity.
Would anyone have gotten a year in prison for leaving ham at a Synagogue? Of course not.
Dwight Hasbrouck says
Tragic that both officer’s were obviously not trained in WDT
Here in the US we are well trained and the perp in this article would have never had the chance to inflict bodily damage
He would have been the one in intense pain
Undaunted says
Weaponless Defense Tactics? Brit cops are trained in these things; this particular cop, however, was not suited to be a cop so she got her ass kicked. Period.
And you write, “we are well trained [sic]”. Who is “we” in that sentence? I know of hundreds of instances when US cops of both genders failed to properly leave a “perp” “in intense pain”.
john h wilson says
When did European men become eunuchs????
I know it’s old fashioned and patriarchal, but a man is obligated to protect children, or at least see to it that a child rapist doesn’t do it again.
Faqi Hussain says
Three police officers could not beat the s*** out of this nenedathal? He shoiuld have been beated to a pulp and sentenced to 10 years for attacking three police officer. Isnt it time the UK police are armed. If they were this idiot would not be punching these officrs.
European pagan says
Evil monkey
Dawne Swift says
Handsworth is a notoriously Muslim area. It would be sensible for all police in this area to be armed at all times with at the very least tasers. And anybody committing a criminal act who is not British should be deported immediately preferably on sentencing (though that will never happen) and at all events on completing the sentence. No tolerance of any level of criminality. No ifs or buts. And definitely no appeal to the ridiculous human rights legislation introduced by Blair which allowed foreign criminals to father a child and then claim successfully that deportation “infringes their human right to a family life”. Deport them.
gravenimage says
This *should* all be common sense, Dawne.
Owen Morgan says
“…A breakdown in Hussain’s mental health at the time.”
Right. Odd how that always happens.
No Muzzies Here says
Many individuals who practice this religion exhibit Sudden Jihad Syndrome. They put on an external appearance of normalcy as they move about among the people they hate. Then in what non-Muslims mistake for a sudden, unexplained act of violence, the individual acts on the hatred that his religion has programmed into his diminished mental capacity.
Then naive infidels make such comments as “I didn’t see it coming,” “It came out of nowhere,” “He was such a nice, polite man,” “He initially appeared calm,” “With no warning whatsoever.” There was a warning. You should have seen it coming. It came out of his ideology of hatred. Will you learn from this experience?
To help you in your learning, consider the fact that there is an ideology that transforms normal people into instruments of hate for the purpose of making more people adopt that ideology.
Elizabeth Taylor says
This is not Islam…this is indoctrinated Islam…just as our American children have been indoctrinated to be hedonistic if not narcissistic, Muslims have been indoctrinated to believe in an extreme jihad…in both cases, they are a threat to America…but, remember, indoctrination can be reversed in most…until that happens, watch your back…
Wellington says
Pray tell, what is the difference between Islam and indoctrinated Islam? I think you posit a difference without a distinction.
As for hedonistic American children, yes they exist, especially in our era, but this is not due to any fault respecting either democracy or the Judeo-Christian tradition—contra what Islam spawns from its own ideological blueprint.
gravenimage says
Elizabeth, how is Islam different from “indoctrinated Islam”? This is indeed what Islam teaches in how to deal with Infidel authority.
And while some American children unfortunately *are* hedonistic and narcissistic, few have actually been taught this as any sort of specific ideology, let alone as religious doctrine.
It is a lot easier to reverse the behavior of spoiled children than it is those taught that what they are learning is the word of god–or of “Allah”, in this case.
OLD GUY says
He looks like he just crawled out from under a rock or out of a cave. Just think if we continue to allow these people into our countries they will soon be the norm on our streets, scary thought. The only way to stop this is to halt migration from Muslim/Islamic countries, and to deport the criminals from those countries.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim beats policewoman, punching her so hard that she falls and continuing attack as she lies on the ground
Judge Sarah Buckingham said: “It was a sustained assault upon her. You clearly have a problem with authority….
……………………
He has a problem with *Infidel* authorities. Will this thug be deported after serving his time? I sure hope so.
Joseph says
Employ a woman to do a man’s job and then act surprised and shocked if she gets beaten by a REAL man.
Lenny Leaps In says
I hate political correctness.
There is a UK cop show called “The Bill” – I love watching the repeats on Aussie TV. I recall one scene when a small female petite cop called Polly ran after a violent thug who was 6 foot 4 inches tall. She caught up with him(!), tackled him and using some form of karate disabled him, got him onto his belly and then cuffed him. This was all done to show the viewers that female cops are just as good as male cops. What utter rubbish.
How can unarmed petite female cops be real cops when confronted by demon-possessed violent thugs on the street? They cannot.
All cops, whether male or female, on the beat in the UK must have tasers and guns at all times.