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“We will never Live as Dhimmis”: The Stealth Cultural Jihad in America

Apr 11, 2020 3:00 pm By Darrell Pack

I recently came across the title of an Arabic book, “We will never live as Dhimmis” (lan naish  zimieen), written by a Lebanese Christian, Amin Naji, in 1979.

A Dhimmi is a Christian or Jew living in a region overrun by Muslim conquest who was accorded a protected status in exchange of a poll tax (Jizya), and allowed to retain his or her original faith.

Lebanon is an example. It was established after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the end of World War I in 1923. Since the majority there were Christians, unlike any other Middle Eastern land, the French mandated a Christian president and commander in chief. Then, in 1975, a civil war broke out over the political privileges of Christians and the rights of Lebanese Muslims who had become the majority of the country.

In his book, Naji discusses the destruction of pre-civil war Lebanon by a coalition of Muslim militias and their Palestinian allies. He wrote of violence and annihilation. He also listed one of the tools that had been used, before the war, by Muslim “conquerors.” It is “the Arabization via distorting history, changing the national identity, and destroying culture”. This cultural jihad gets too little attention and is too little understood.

Some U.S. Muslims are applying this basic scheme here. They do not have adequate political control in the U.S. to simply impose a new Islamic culture on our society. But they are infiltrating the culture by claiming that Muslims and Islam have long been central contributors to American governance and culture.

Western audiences often hear these Muslim declarations as an appeal to the wider society and to allow Muslims to be real participants in the E Pluribus Unum experiment that is America. We would do well to remind ourselves of the old Arabic proverb about the camel’s nose under the tent.

One egregious example of this groundwork for cultural Jihad appears in the PBS program “History Detectives”. It claims, “When the first Muslims came to the land that would become the United States is unclear. Many historians claim that the earliest Muslims came from the Senegambian region of Africa in the early 14th century. It is believed they were Moors, expelled from Spain, who made their way to the Caribbean and possibly to the Gulf of Mexico.”

PBS claims that when Columbus made his journey to the United States, he carried a book written by Portuguese Muslims who had navigated their way to the New World in the 12th century.

Others—most notably a man named Istafan—claim there were Muslims who accompanied the Spanish as a guide to the New World in their early 16th century conquest of what became Arizona and New Mexico.

The make-up of the first real wave of Muslims in the United States is clear. They were African slaves of whom ten to fifteen percent were said to be Muslims. It was difficult for them to maintain their religion and many were forcibly converted to Christianity. Any effort to practice Islam, and keep the traditional clothing and names alive had to be done in secret.

Edwin Gaustad in his nearly encyclopedic book, “A Documentary History of Religion in America to the civil war” (Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company; 2nd edition (April 1993), does not mention any social, cultural, or intellectual contribution from Muslims to early America. Could the absence prove the point?

There are farcical claims that Thomas Jefferson relied on the Quran as a source of inspiration and insight regarding the writing of the American constitution. One might well find Denise Spellberg’s book Jefferson’s Quran interesting—though not insightful—on the matter. However, nowhere in Jefferson’s constitution is there any overt quotation or allusion to the Quran.

In his book, Jefferson’s War, Joseph Wheelan noted that after Jefferson created an American Navy to combat Muslim pirates in North Africa, and American forces had their first major victory under Lieutenant Andrew Sterett, there was celebration in the United States at the defeat of the Muslim pirates. President Jefferson used the navy and marines to make real progress in defeating what was commonly called “The Terror”. (Wheelan, Joseph, Jefferson’s War, Carroll and Graf Publishing, NY 2003, p. 119)

Nothing in Jefferson’s combat against the Muslim corsairs of North Africa indicates any appreciation of Muslim culture or Islamic approach to governance.

In December, 2019, the Muslim American Society (MAS)-Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) held a convention in Chicago–the largest in the nation. At the convention, guest speaker Dalia Moghahed, gave a speech titled “Muslims that Shaped America,” captured on video. She began by responding to a plaintive cry from a Muslim American mother who asked, “What can we do to help our children who face constant verbal attacks, name-calling, insults and micro aggressions at their schools against their identity; only because they are Muslims?’”

Ms. Mogahed said that Muslims need to be given the intellectual tools to confront “the flawed and crooked framework that make up the ideas of Islamophobia.” They are to teach that “their roots as Muslims in this country run deep” and “This is their country, and no one has the right to tell them otherwise” and “no one should be waiting for a welcome to their own house.” Ms. Mogahed also said, “So if someone has a problem with our children being here, then they can go back to where they came from … This is not mere rhetoric, but historical fact.”

She then made her case for this point of view.

She stated, “There were Muslims with Christopher Columbus when he landed in the Americas” and “It is important to note that the first country to recognize the United States as an independent nation was Morocco.” She also said, “This is just to lay a framework to challenge the myth that there is an inherent and inevitable conflict between the values of the United States and the values of Muslim societies, civilizations or communities. It is simply not supported by logic or history.” Furthermore she said, “Estimates range from 10 % to 30% of enslaved Africans brought to the United States were Muslims.”

Ms. Mogahed’s efforts are not sophisticated, but exemplify, at the popular level, the clash between Western open society and Muslim ideology today.

More eloquent and polished Islamist apologists and speakers are preparing their own versions of this Islamic claim. We cannot only worry about violent Jihad, we must recognize and confront the academic effort to lay claim to the United States as a legitimate possession of the House of Islam that is now temporarily controlled by the Kuffar (infidels).

Social and political theorist and philosopher Isaiah Berlin said in his lectures, “the German poet Heine warned the French not to underestimate the power of ideas: philosophical concepts nurtured in the stillness of a professor’s study could destroy a civilization.” (“Two Concepts of Liberty,” “Four Essays on Liberty,” Oxford, England: Oxford University Press, 1969, p. 120)

To this thought about a professor’s power we must add “or an imam”. Distorting history by inserting Muslim memes into the nation’s historical ethos and shoving pre-Islamic society aside has worked before in Islamic history.

Now, they are applying this ideological approach as an initial blow for the Islamization of our society and to supplant our open society ideals.

Darrell Pack is an Arabist and a member of Islamic Reform Forum.

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  1. David Grisez says

    Apr 11, 2020 at 3:24 pm

    One thing that I really dislike about the ideology of Islam is the teachings from the Quran and the Hadiths that teach Muslims that what ever land, country or nation that they go to that they must do what they can to fight against that land, conquer that land and rule that land with Islamic Sharia Law. The ideology of Islam teaches Muslims that they can never assimilate into a nation and become part of that nation or submit to the non Islamic laws of that nation. As a result of this large numbers of Muslims in a nation will cause trouble for that nation. I do not want the United States to be ruined by Muslims trying to turn the United States into an Islamic nation with Islamic Sharia Law.

    • James Lincoln says

      Apr 11, 2020 at 4:17 pm

      Amen, David…

    • Anjuli Pandavar says

      Apr 11, 2020 at 4:23 pm

      I’m afraid it’s a great deal worse than this, David. To their minds, in their view of the universe, they *already* own your land. Their Allah has given the entire earth to Muslims exclusively. The fact that parts of it are run by non-Muslims means only that shortly after birth, they were turned away from Islam by their deluded parents, who had themselves been turned away from their birth religion of Islam, which is everybody’s religion at birth.

      The Muslims invading non-Muslim lands seek to “restore” those lands to Islam and put them back into the hands of Muslims, to whom they rightly belong. It is also for this reason that Muslims refer to converting to Islam as “reverting” to Islam, the coverts original religion.

      Muslims are supposed to “offer” Islam back to the infidels in the lands the latter rule. But should they turn down such generosity, then they’ve committed “aggression” against Muslims who are then compelled to fight the infidels in self-defence until they submit to Allah, become dhimmis (an “offer” only open to Jews and Christians), or die. So you see, no matter what Muslims do to non-Muslims or countries ruled by non-Muslims, in the Muslim’s mind, they are *never* the aggressors. The aggressors are those who resist the Muslims, who defend their countries against jihad, and who refuse Islam. To Muslims this is as real and true as the sun rising in the East. They are hardwired for this.

      Most people in the West have no idea, not the foggiest, of how dangerous Muslims are *and will not be told* because, because, because… There is an endless list of reasons for not looking this thing straight in the face. And it is a very dark place to look. Not all landmines explode, but to give even one Muslim an even break is like using a landmine as a pillow on the off-chance that it will not explode.

      • Honest Ali says

        Apr 11, 2020 at 4:56 pm

        Well said. You are spot on when you say that most people refuse to look this danger in the face… it will be our undoing…

        • darrell Pack says

          Apr 11, 2020 at 11:30 pm

          Honest Ali,
          This is why we need all voices calling for a reality check

      • CogitoErgoSum says

        Apr 11, 2020 at 5:27 pm

        It’s interesting to me that although Muhammad did not intend for people to know it, his idea that everyone is born a Muslim fits with the Christian idea that we are estranged from God at birth and come into this world as slaves in bondage to the Father of Lies. Jesus said we all must be born a second time from water and spirit (through baptism) in order to become the adopted children of God and heirs to the Kingdom of God. Is it not strange that Muhammad’s own teachings can stand as evidence that his Allah (Father of Lies) worshiped by Muslims is not the God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) worshiped by Christians.

        • darrell Pack says

          Apr 11, 2020 at 10:15 pm

          CogitoErgoSum,
          good insight.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 11, 2020 at 11:06 pm

          Good points, David, Anjuli, and CogitoErgoSum.

          One point–it is not just that Islam blames parents for those who are non-Muslim–it blames each non-Muslim themselves.

          “Kufar” doesn’t actually mean simply non-Muslim–it means “denier of the truth”. Muslims believe that Infidels know that Islam is true and deny it out of perversity. Bizarrely, they think this even of people who have never even heard of Islam.

          Note how different this is to the Christian idea, which is that people need to hear the Good News.

          The different ideas explain in large part why Muslims and Christians generally treat non-believers so very differently.

      • Boromir's Horn says

        Apr 11, 2020 at 5:42 pm

        Anjuli Pandavar

        You paint a bleak yet accurate picture. Now, what can we do about it? Of course we should call them out on every lie, murder and rape. Do everything we can to expose and defund the supporters of the jihad. We certainly need to stop electing them to office. Stop the ideology of the left (good luck with that) that deny’s them even being a world threat. There are many people working hard to close their borders, something that should have been long ago, but maybe this virus will help the world to see the value in that.

        But what can be done that we seem to be overlooking? What will make a difference?

        • darrell Pack says

          Apr 11, 2020 at 10:18 pm

          Boromir,
          The character you have chosen to be a namesake for, you live in a time when the truth will find few hearers, but you need to fidn those in your sphere of influence and tell them anyway.Give them this article and then ask to talk with them. And write in local papers anytime you find Jihadi inclinations in the local mosques. Pray. Thanks.

        • Boromir's Horn says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 7:54 am

          darrell,

          A long, hard slog indeed

      • darrell Pack says

        Apr 11, 2020 at 10:14 pm

        Anjuli Pandavar, powerful metaphor you have chosen.

      • Rufolino says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 4:35 am

        Thanks Anjluli, a brilliant exposition of this topic.

      • Geof Barrington says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 1:48 pm

        Anjuli ..you are right on the money there . Muslums are mortal enemies of us all

      • dsinc says

        Apr 13, 2020 at 1:20 am

        Dar al Islam – House of Islam – Muslim rule (sharia law)

        Dar al Harb – House of war – Muslim takeover in progress.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 13, 2020 at 5:10 pm

          Yes–this is how Muslims think.

      • dsinc says

        Apr 13, 2020 at 1:28 am

        dsinc says

        Apr 13, 2020 at 1:20 am

        Dar al Islam – House of Islam – Muslim rule (sharia law)

        Dar al Harb – House of war – Muslim takeover in progress.

      • dsinc says

        Apr 13, 2020 at 1:32 am

        Dar al Islam – House of Islam – Muslim rule (sharia law)

        Dar al Harb – House of war – Muslim takeover in progress.

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Apr 11, 2020 at 5:58 pm

      The only effective, long-term solution is to deport all Muslims from the U.S., and any other Western nation that wants to remain free and civilized. All other “solutions” just postpone the inevitable.

      • James Lincoln says

        Apr 11, 2020 at 6:12 pm

        Savvy Kafir,

        For starters, we should immediately deport as many muslims from the United States as legally possible. That should be a given.

        What are your thoughts about legal strategies used to deport muslims who are here legally, especially the ones who are US citizens? And where would they be deported to?

        I’m not trying to be a smart a**, I’m just looking for answers…

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 11, 2020 at 11:12 pm

          James, I think this is a good step:

          “Trump officials pushing to strip convicted jihad terrorists of citizenship”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/06/trump-officials-pushing-to-strip-convicted-jihad-terrorists-of-citizenship

          The “Muslim ban” also means that Muslims entering the US in the first place is way down.

        • Savvy Kafir says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 12:10 pm

          James — The legal issues need to be addressed via an amendment to the Constitution that bans Islam as a unique threat to free, civilized societies, and to the lives of non-Muslims — and which makes it legal to deport all Muslims, including citizens of the U.S., who must be stripped of their citizenship by this amendment — and legalizing the seizure of Muslim assets.

          As to the question of where to deport them to, I think the answer is for the U.S. military to BRIEFLY seize control of coastal territory in one or more Muslim-majority countries, just long enough to set up relocation centers. All of this would be a colossal undertaking; but much of it could be financed by seizing the Western assets of oil-rich Muslims. (The same Muslims who have been using their wealth to further the Islamization of the U.S., in many cases.)

          This massive operation would be the best use the U.S. military has EVER been put to. The fate of the U.S. as a free, civilized society depends upon it. If we fail to do this, eventually the Demographic Jihad will transform America into an Islamic society ruled by Sharia.

          The necessary political will to make all of this happen will be achieved if the public properly understands the threat that Islam poses.

          The same strategy needs to be pursued by all Western nations. And the sooner we can make this happen, the less expensive and less bloody the process will be, and the more certain the outcome.

        • James Lincoln says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 12:37 pm

          Savvy Kafir,

          Thank you very much for your reply.

          Your post contains some very interesting options that should be seriously thought through – and seriously considered – by the United States government as well as other Western governments.

          The United States government needs to take bold action with “all hands on deck” analogous to the way that we are currently dealing with the coronavirus, as well as the way that we previously conducted the Manhattan project during World War II…

      • Christopher Logan says

        Apr 11, 2020 at 6:27 pm

        Islam needs to be reevaluated and stripped of its golden shield of religion status.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 11, 2020 at 11:15 pm

          Islam is indeed a religion–just a particularly ugly one.

          The idea that everything to do with religion in the US is legal is mistaken–for instance, stoning women to death and waging violent Jihad are not legal, anymore than is feeding virgins to volcanoes.

          The real problem is that we are seldom vigorously enforcing laws against the horrors of Islam.

        • Terry Gain says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 8:26 am

          Christopher Logan
          You are of course right that its undeserved status as a religion is Islam’s Golden Shield. As a result of the respect which Americans afford to religious freedom, which value is at the heart of America’s creation, Islam’s status as a religion might also be described as Islam’s Irresistible Scimitar.

          The Islamic existential threat to America does not come from terrorist attacks, but from stealth jihad. It is sinister method of war which is perfectly legal and cannot be outlawed as it is merely Muslims practising their “religion”.

          There are authoritarian countries which call themselves Democratic. We do not accept that these countries are democratic simply because they call themselves democratic. We scrutinize those countries and if they do not meet the basic tests of a democracy we do not consider them democratic. We should take the same approach to Islam’s claim that it is a religion.

          The widespread raising of this question alone will generate the scrutiny of Islam which may save us from Islam without the need for Civil War.

          Islam is not a religion, it is, as described by the scholar Wellington, an evil cult. It cannot be both a religion, which is protected by American law and an evil cult. The best way to fight this evil cult is to ban further Muslim immigration. Banning further Muslim immigration is not politically possible unless and until the American public accepts that Islam is not a religion.

          Graven Image, who is very knowledgable about Islam, does not believe it is necessary to consider Islam as ”not a religion”in order to defeat is in America. She points to the example of Spain, But it is not sensible to allow Islam to advance in America to the point where the only way to defeat it is by Civil War. It must be defeated by refusing entry and that cannot be accomplished so long as Islam is regarded as a religion.

          This does not require changes to American law but simply a change in the attitude of Americans sufficient to justify a ban as it is not sensible to allow Islam to advance in America. It must be defeated by refusing entry and that cannot be accomplished so long as Islam is regarded as a religion.

          President Trump’s impeccable logic regarding the use HCQ prevailed over Dr. Fauci’s bureaucratic rigidity and hopefully our impeccable logic regarding whether Islam is an evil religion or evil ideology will prevail over those who believe, but can’t explain, how Islam can be stopped.

          The logic of our position cannot be gainsaid.

        • Terry Gain says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 8:43 am

          Graven Image

          With the greatest respect, what you fail to realize is that stealth jihad is perfectly legal. It is merely Muslims practising their religion. Stealth jihad cannot be stopped by the application of American law.

          You also fail to realize that the only way to defend against Islam’s advance is by either banning or severely curbing Islamic immigration and that that will never be accomplished until the majority of Americans accept that Islam is not a religion.

        • Wellington says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 10:35 am

          Terry Gain: One man’s religion is another man’s cult. Hell, you can even find this within just one religion, examples being how some Protestants look upon Catholicism and how Sunni and Shiite Muslims look upon each other. And why can’t a religion be an evil cult as well?

          You keep emphasizing “religion” while I keep emphasizing “evil.” As I have pointed out to you before, and even assuming you are correct that Islam is not a religion, IF ONLY it were overwhelmingly seen as an evil religion (as were other religions like those of the Carthaginians and Aztecs, both of which required human sacrifice) it could still be protected as a belief system because of the First Amendment, just as Marxism and Nazism are here in America, but it would lead to it being widely scorned, despised, marginalized and its believers would rightly be looked upon as losers, confused and in some cases downright wicked.

          The rest would take care of itself and at least here in America Islam would make no more headway. It’s the “evil” aspect, Terry, and not the “religion” aspect which is key.

        • rooare says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 11:22 am

          Islam is an entire political system with a religious aspect which cloaks it’s agenda of sharia for all by any and all means. As a political system it imposes required behavior on every aspect of life, much of which are incompatible with western freedoms. Unless many more westerners see that Islam is not just a religion but an entire political system that is hell bent on replacing our democracies with sharia we will quite likely not wake to the danger until it’s to late.

        • Savvy Kafir says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 11:34 am

          Terry — Islam definitely is a religion. .. as well as a political and legal system, etc., etc. Muslims are motivated largely by the promise of paradise and the threat of hell in an afterlife. That makes it a religion. Devout Muslims pray to their non-existent god 5 times a day. That makes it a religion.

          But that does not mean Muslims must be allowed to remain in the U.S. What is needed is an amendment to the Constitution that allows us to ban Islam and deport all Muslims. Islam clearly poses a unique threat to civilized societies and to the lives of non-Muslims; therefore it should not be given the same protections as other religions. We either amend the Constitution to rid ourselves of the cancer of Islam, or eventually we will lose the Constitution entirely, once Muslims have sufficient numbers to call the shots.

        • Savvy Kafir says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 11:42 am

          gravenimage — Even if we enforce the law now, to keep Muslims in line, that will not save us in the long run, when fast-breeding Muslims have become the majority. At that point, they will change the laws, and we will have a Sharia society. That has been the pattern for 1,400 years and there is no reason to think it would turn out differently for us.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 10:02 pm

          Terry–as I have said many times before–I don’t believe that make believe will in any way enhance our ability to fight Islam. In fact, I believe that having truth on our side is a great strength.

          As I have noted umpteen times now, Islam is a religion by any definition we have. And the idea that it is not possible to fight against Islam unless one pretends it is not a religion is obviously not the case. Knowing that Islam is a religion did not stop men like Churchill and Jefferson from successfully fighting against it.

          I have also debunked your claim that the First Amendment was written because the Founding Fathers were ignorant of the possibility that any religion could be less than salubrious. They very much understood this, and Jefferson and Adams specifically understood this about Islam.

          Freedom of religion does *not* mean the “freedom” to slaughter and oppress unbelievers, any more than it allows tossing infants into furnaces or virgins into volcanoes.

          As for stealth Jihad, note that a number of states have specifically outlawed the imposition of Shari’ah law. Please note that this was *not* prevented by the First Amendment, because despite what you believe the First Amendment does not legalize crimes that are done in the name of religion.

          Your implication that Wellington is saying that Islam is not a religion is quite disingenuous. You certainly have every right to disagree with him, but pretending that he holds this idea is simply dishonest.

          And the definition of cult and religion are *hardly* mutually exclusive. I have a couple of books from the early 20th century that describe early Christianity as a cult–and this is not intended pejoratively. And sometimes cult is used to indicate a small religion or a small aspect of an established faith–neither definition would apply to Islam.

          The negative connotations of “cult” are generally recent, and date to the 1970s, when all sort of odd sects popped up.

          And it is mistaken to believe that cults–however defined–are illegal in the United States. Most cults never run afoul of the law at all–and when they do, it is because they break actual laws here–against unlawful imprisonment or pedophilia, for instance. Small faiths as such are *not* illegal.

          And the idea that my pointing to the example of Spain driving Islam out after having been conquered means that I somehow want Islam to conquer us is *entirely* mistaken. I simply offered Spain–and Portugal, and Greece, and Sicily, and the Balkans–as examples of nations in worse straights than we are in today who were able to successfully fight back.

          I have never once said that we should allow Islam to conquer us–I have, in fact, consistently urged us to act before we are in such desperate circumstances.

          And I constantly note that Americans and other Westerners need to wake up to the threat of Islam–the idea that I do not is bizarre.

          I just don’t think we should ignore or try to change the definitions of our words–nor the definition of reality–for Muslims. I don’t think this would in any way helps. I think that one of the problems is that all too many people are ignoring reality when it comes to Islam as it is.

          I don’t think that ignoring the fact that Islam is a religion by every definition is logic–just the opposite, I’m afraid.

          Moreover, the idea that everyone in America respects every aspect of religion and are incapable of challenging them so long as the magic label of “religion” is attached makes no sense. In fact, while Americans overall have a favorable view of religion in general, they feel free, and are free, to criticize any aspect of religion that they want, and they frequently make use of that freedom. I’m not sure how someone can live in this nation and not have noticed that.

          Moreover, dhimmitude is far worse in places like France–and given their state secularism, the average French person is hardly simply enraptured by the whole concept of religion.

          Terry Gain wrote:

          Graven Image

          With the greatest respect, what you fail to realize is that stealth jihad is perfectly legal. It is merely Muslims practising their religion. Stealth jihad cannot be stopped by the application of American law.
          ……………………….

          Terry, thank you for you kind words here and above.

          You are right that Muslims do indeed see stealth Jihad as their practicing their religion. But there are few aspects of stealth Jihad that are legal–FGM is not, discriminating against non-Muslims is not, pedophilia is not, forced marriage is not, wife beating is not, imposing Shari’ah law is not.

          Where Muslims have sometimes been allowed to get away with this, it is because we are not enforcing our own laws–and no, this is not because Westerners are overawed by religion as such. It has more to do with “political correctness”.

          More:

          You also fail to realize that the only way to defend against Islam’s advance is by either banning or severely curbing Islamic immigration and that that will never be accomplished until the majority of Americans accept that Islam is not a religion.
          ……………………….

          Terry, the claim that I have never noticed that Muslim immigration is a problem is just odd–in fact, I focus on this here all the time. Note that under President Trump that Muslim immigration is down over 90%, and that he is acting to strip citizenship from convicted Jihadists:

          “Trump administration launches new unit to strip US citizenship from foreign-born terrorists”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/02/trump-administration-launches-new-unit-to-strip-us-citizenship-from-foreign-born-terrorists

          These are huge moves in the right direction.

          The idea that only nations that have changed the meaning of their language have a chance against Islam is an odd one–can you point to a single nation, at any point in history, that changed the meaning of reality and then magically ended the threat of Islam? I haven’t seen such.

          As I noted, I also think that changing the meaning of our language would accomplish little, and has seldom worked, in any case. Most dictionaries record usage–they do not attempt to change usage themselves. Few Americans would accept such attempts to enforce practice.

          I think it is far better to educate people about the real threat of Islam, rather than attempting to convince them that Islam is a bad thing because it–somehow–didn’t turn out to have been a religion at all, though accepted as such over the past 1400 years by everyone, including those who recognized it as entirely malignant.

          I think–with all respect to you, as well–that the “Islam is not actually a religion” thing is a dead end, and pursuing it makes little sense. You can disagree, of course.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 10:05 pm

          Savvy Kafir, I am very much for ending Muslim immigration and for deporting Muslims–starting with the worst Jihadists.

    • PRCS says

      Apr 11, 2020 at 8:28 pm

      A note, David. An FYI.
      The sharia is the embodiment of Islamic law (Qur’an, hadith collections, rulings and opinions of Muslim “scholars”, etc.). It defines and controls every aspect of every Muslim’s life (and of the kuffar where Muslims rule)–everywhere and always. It is Islam’s version of The Yellow Brick Road.

    • darrell Pack says

      Apr 11, 2020 at 10:12 pm

      good point David, share that fact with as many in your sphere of influence as you can.

    • Roger Woodhouse says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 5:36 am

      Anyone else experiencing difficulty in trying to make more than one comment on these sites?

      • Wellington says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 10:37 am

        I have off and on. Try a different browser for a while. It worked for me.

    • Roger Woodhouse says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 5:40 am

      seems like I am being blocked here.Why?

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 10:07 pm

        Roger, a number of posters have had trouble commenting lately. Use the “Contact Us” box to report any technical problems. I doubt it has anything to do with your content.

    • Mary says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 11:46 am

      I watched a show about the beginnings of Christianity and I so impressed to learn that ANY RACE COULD BECOME A CHRISTIAN 2000 years ago!

    • Pete Knows says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 1:10 pm

      Never against the core of your words… but please use the words in the correct terms. Nothing hateful! Nation comes from tribe!! So if you are Iranian and You move to the UK and You get a British passport after while. Your nationality might be Persian,… but not British. Your citizenship is British and you might contribute to the British society. Your grand grandchildren will be of a different nationality if the Iranian part is down to 1/4 and 3/4 of the other. No hate. Just how things are written. Jewish again is different, your mother has to be jewish, so you are of jewish nationality. You can convert to jewish religion, but never to the nationality. You might get a Japanese citizenship but you never become Japanese (one exception was made ever!)

    • Om Prakash Sharma says

      Apr 13, 2020 at 6:34 am

      They can be blatant liars

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 13, 2020 at 5:11 pm

        Islam itself teaches lying to Infidels.

  2. Wellington says

    Apr 11, 2020 at 3:38 pm

    Fine article by Darrell Pack. And so fitting that Muslims (and non-Muslim apologists for Islam) distort history since Islam distorts virtually everything it touches, including the truth in general and a real Golden Rule for all, casualties both of them most surely due to the massive error (and lie) which is Islam.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 12:38 am

      Yes, Islam fundamentally is psychological warfare masked as religion. Islam’s tenets are lies designed to undermine and destroy resistance to Islamic takeover of one’s mind and one’s polity. Islam has no respect for psychological or spiritual boundaries. Islam is not just an abuser and rapist of women, but a rapist of the human soul and spirit. The anti-spirit behind this religion hates humanity and seeks to destroy it and absorb it.

      • Wellington says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 10:39 am

        Fine summation, eduardo. No doubt about it, Islam sucks many times over.

  3. Jayell says

    Apr 11, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    “”We will not live as dhimmis” sounds too conciliatry and apologetic. “The muslims will learn to respect and live as Westerners or return from whence they came” sounds far better.

    • Roger Woodhouse says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 5:38 am

      hear hear Jayell.Adapt or leave.

      • Savvy Kafir says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 1:17 pm

        Or, better yet, just leave! Period.

        Muslims do not belong in the civilized world.

  4. Dude says

    Apr 11, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    The impotent god tells his brainwashed tribe to pillage for him, so he can be respected by the whole world.

    Only fools would believe that anyone but monsters like them could respect such a ‘god’. And because they are ordered to remain foolish, incapable of hearing from God, their idiot vile lives are spent entirely in darkness, using religion to satisfy their
    animalistic lust and desires.

    Fortunately their stupidity can’t possibly realize just how inferior their powers are – impotent god, inbred stupid intellects, and completely without weaponry (once we stop selling ours to them). It will be over in a few years – the truth is flying around the world at the speed of light on every phone and computer.

    Soon their lies and attempts to hide history will no longer find listeners. Then they will start it, and almost immediately it will end. Forever.

  5. Anjuli Pandavar says

    Apr 11, 2020 at 4:24 pm

    Darryll, Thank you very much for such an important article and so well written. This question is long overdue for open discussion.

    • PRCS says

      Apr 11, 2020 at 8:35 pm

      That the video is several years old, and has so few comments supports the “long overdue: issue.

  6. Walter Schumm says

    Apr 11, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    I suggest you read the paper by myself in Religions this month. Thanks, Walter Schumm

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 11, 2020 at 11:16 pm

      Do you have a link, Walter?

    • PRCS says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 3:19 am

      Thank you, Colonel.

      https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/11/3/102/htm

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 13, 2020 at 6:39 pm

        Thanks for the link, PRCS.

  7. Christopher Logan says

    Apr 11, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    Islam cannot be protected as a religion and defeated at the same time.

    • Wellington says

      Apr 11, 2020 at 8:54 pm

      Yes it can IF it is described, characterized, as an evil religion.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 11, 2020 at 11:17 pm

        Agreed, Wellington. In fact, we have successfully fought against Islam many times without pretending it is not a religion.

        • eduardo odraude says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 1:05 am

          This debate happens here repeatedly: “Islam is not a religion.” “Oh yes it is.” I have participated myself.

          Clearly, depending on the perspective from which one looks, both views can be correct.

          From the perspective of law and the First Amendment, Islam is a religion simply because Muslims believe it is and pray to “God” daily in accord with that “religion.” Our First Amendment prevents the government from attempting theological distinctions: “this is a true religion, that is a false religion.” Therefore to try to persuade politicians to declare Islam “not a religion” is surely a hopeless endeavor.

          From the perspective of theology, however, one can make a pretty good argument that Islam is a false religion, not a true religion, and in that sense is not truly a religion. But that argument does not amount to a political strategy, since the First Amendment keeps the government clear of theology (thank God), theology being a subject on which there is much disagreement.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 13, 2020 at 6:41 pm

          Eduardo, knowing that Islam is a religion by definition does *not* mean that one is need consider it true.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 15, 2020 at 1:30 am

          one need consider it true

      • jayell says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 1:04 am

        Or maybe if it is treated as the cynically plagirised scam that it is, since the ‘prophet’ (sic) Mohammed + assorted chums only cobbled it together as a means of selling themselves to the ignorant masses to achieve their political and material ends. You get the same with more modern religious scams: basically, if you can’t make it as a media star or footballer, you knock together a gang of cronies with a convincing-enough sales-pitch to fool the average punter. Where your target audience is too clever to be taken in (e.g., the Jews in Medina) you demonize them since they become useful as the ‘opposition’, rather like you’d try to promote your dubious product by rubbishing theirs, even if you stole theirs in the first place. And I believe that we shouldn’t excuse Mohammed’s devious first wife, who clearly found a way of selling her medically-challenged husband for a profit as a ‘prophet’ (little pun there!) on the market, neatly capitalising on the fact that he had a bit of a screw loose. You’ve got to recognise her enterprising skills even if they were attached to zero moral integrity. And I suppose you have to say the same for the rest of the motley crew, because it takes a bit of nerve and dedication to knock up an entire spurious sham based on a transparently plagiarised business-plan on the basis that you can sell it to every idiot in creation by reducing everything to the lowest and most disreputable common denominator. And then prove the point by creating the world’s longest-running (1,400 years!) scam. Very clever. It might be a bit more clever if the people who still push this cheap and nasty venture didn’t achieve their success by simply behaving like pompous, pretentious buffoons whilst throwing their weight around with an authority they DON’T really have, based on a programme of sanctified criminal suppression and aggression, and the rewards of commercial resources that they DIDN’T have the brains to obtain in the first place!

        • DOBinTX says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 12:29 pm

          Wow. Can I steal this? I’ll probably be kicked off FB again for posting it, but what the heck. I’ve always thought Khadijah wanted a nifty little civil war to oust Abu Lahab as leader of the Quraysh, so she could be First Lady. And then completely lost control. I like the way you put the possibility.

    • tgusa says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 1:10 am

      Exactly. A strange new war for us to be sure. Islam is far from just a religion. It is an entire life concept dictating every move, every word, every decision, through fear. Constant fear that even the strict adherents experience. Islam is a religion based cult extending through all aspects of your life. We have seen this before but not on a scale such as this. Islamic cult law is a violation of the 1st amendment, the 4th amendment and to differing degrees several other amendment in the Bill of Rights.

      • tgusa says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 1:26 am

        We have seen this before but not on a homicidal level such as this. Historically, western cultists find a way to kill themselves, not others.

  8. somehistory says

    Apr 11, 2020 at 7:15 pm

    mogahed said, “…. no one has the right to tell them otherwise”

    So totally wrong, wrong, wrong. Everyone…everyone…has the God-given Freedom of Speech that the Constitution (which she claims to be a part of moslim history) guarantees. Anyone can say to anyone else..legally…”You don’t belong here. Go back from whence you came.”

    If one says that to a person born in the U.S. of parents born in the U.S (or otherwise, legally a citizen, esp by legal birth), then it will be **untrue,** but the one speaking has the “right” to be wrong.

    moslims notoriously, lay claim to everything except for ever being wrong. This ‘moslims were here first’ nonsense is just that; nonsense. And begun to influence the minds of those easily swayed to believe whatever someone ‘new’ says about anything. There are a lot of those in society today, people who are unaware of the Truth of what islam is all about and the goals of the moslims.

    So d mogahed…who came to infamy with ‘o’ and his racket of “fundamentally ruining” everything, Go live in some moslim majority country where you would fit right in. See, I have the “right” to say that.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 1:18 am

      The “Muslims were here first” meme is just a very typical kind of Islamic thievery, exactly like when they claim we were all born as Muslims but that we were all in effect stolen from Islam by other religions, corrupted to become Jews or Christians or atheists or Hindus or Buddhists. Since we were Muslims first, Islam has a “right” to take us back, you see. It wouldn’t matter if such claims were merely philosophical or theological. But Islam is a totalitarian system relying on psychological and physical violence to enforce those claims. So Islam is a lot of dangerous psy-ops manipulation and gaslighting. When Muhammad said “War is deceit,” he meant that on a deeper level than Muslims realize. Because the whole Islamic doctrine is deceit backed by terror, a combination used to break the independent mind; and Muslims are in a way the biggest victims. Really, the whole of Islam is encapsulated in that phrase: “War is deceit.” Islam is deceit and war, and nothing more.

  9. mortimer says

    Apr 11, 2020 at 8:35 pm

    Darrell Pack has pinpointed the problem that Western intellectuals are almost all ignoring:

    “Isaiah Berlin said in his lectures, “the German poet Heine warned the French not to underestimate the power of ideas: philosophical concepts nurtured in the stillness of a professor’s study could destroy a civilization.”

    • darrell Pack says

      Apr 11, 2020 at 10:24 pm

      Motimer, this is why we need intellectuals like Robert Spencer, my Friend Hesham Shehab, and Raymond Ibrahim to counter the Islamic narrative while brilliant but deluded guys and gals like John Espisito and Karen Armstrong are empowering a 5th column. Thanks for you contribution to the conversation.

  10. gravenimage says

    Apr 11, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    “We will never Live as Dhimmis”: The Stealth Cultural Jihad in America
    ………………

    Fine piece from Darrell Pack.

    The worst thing is that while all decent people oppose Jihad terror, few even recognize stealth Jihad.

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 3:01 pm

      True. And the stealth jihad and (especially) the demographic jihad pose a FAR greater threat than terrorism. While terrorist attacks are dreadful for the individuals killed or maimed, and for their loved ones, the stealth jihad and demographic jihad destroy entire societies.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 13, 2020 at 6:44 pm

        All of these are just tactics, Savvy Kafir–all having the same aim of forcing our subjugation to Islam.

  11. Stephen Hiller says

    Apr 12, 2020 at 5:58 am

    Even the German philosopher Goethe said it’s “not really a lie” if you tell a falsehood to an enemy. Obviously the American Judeo-Christian culture is Islam’s enemy so go ahead, Muslims, lie all you want.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 6:46 pm

      In war, all states use deception. That is not what makes Islam objectionable. The problem is that Islam is a totalitarian expansionist state. In other words, it not only uses deception when in war. Islam, as a totalitarian system, IS deception and war, and fundamentally is nothing else. Deception and war against its own people by its own people, and against others.

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 7:51 pm

        Excellent analysis and distinction

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 13, 2020 at 10:39 pm

        Fine post, Eduardo.

  12. Tony Naim says

    Apr 12, 2020 at 7:51 am

    A lot of blood was spilled to preserve a free Christian presence in Mount Lebanon over the past 1400years- since the rise of Islam. The Maronite Church was born as a direct consequence of the Islamic conquest.
    Every American needs to understand the 2 faces of Islam.
    The Koran of Medina is savage and Brutal .
    2500 Mosques in America continue to preach the tenants of Islam as dictated by Al-Azhar in Cairo, with a following of more than 10 million citizens.
    4 particular elements of Islam are inconsistent with our democracy and the values of our republic:
    -Dhimmitude
    -Possessions of the right hand
    -Al wala’ wal Barra’
    -Jihad
    These 4 tenants of Islam will have to be outlawed.CLEARLY AND PUBLICLY. To avoid another civil war down the road, like the one that happened in Lebanon.This is the duty of our legislators. With a strong political leadership, these tenants CAN also be abolished from the face of the earth.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 6:52 pm

      Good post, but you mean “tenets,” not “tenants.” Also, the Meccan Qur’an is less peaceful than it seems. Even at that time, Muhammad was plotting slaughter and conquest. See, for example

      Muhammad affirms that those who do not follow him will be slaughtered

      On page 222 (326 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad:
      https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n133/mode/1up

      Abu jahl said to them: ‘Muhammad alleges that if you follow him you will be kings of the Arabs and the Persians. Then after death you will be raised to gardens like those of the Jordan. But if you do not follow him you will be slaughtered, and when you are raised from the dead you will be burned in the fire of hell.’ The apostle [Muhammad] came out to them with a handful of dust saying: ‘I do say that.’ “

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 13, 2020 at 10:40 pm

      +1

  13. James Lincoln says

    Apr 12, 2020 at 9:50 am

    Lots of comments regarding whether or not islam meets the U.S. Constitution’s “qualifications” for being a religion.

    Interesting arguments on both sides of the debate.

    I invite all Jihad Watch readers to review Robert Spencer’s feature article from 2019 – along with all of the very interesting comments regarding islam – vis-à-vis and its questionable religious status…

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/03/washington-post-hits-baffling-argument-that-islam-is-not-a-religion

    • Wellington says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 11:03 am

      Thanks for the link, James. I see I was involved on that thread (what a shock, no?). You might want to take a look at my 10:35 A.M. post of today of about a half hour ago which is a response to Terry Gain’s earlier 8:26 A.M. post.

      Terry thinks Islam cannot be banned unless it is deemed not a religion. I don’t think this is necessary, never mind the EXTREME unlikelihood that Islam would ever have religious status stripped form it.

      I readily admit that Islam as with certain others matters (e.g. abortion) does stretch the Constitution this way and that, but I always try to keep in mind that the Constitution is not a suicide pact and there is no reason why evil religions should not have religious protection under the First Amendment, just as evil secular ideologies like Marxism and Nazism do. What a person BELIEVES IN should be protected but what a person DOES based on a particular belief system should by all means not always be protected. Belief v. action here.

      And there is no good reason why you can’t have Islam a protected belief system under the First Amendment while still functioning in common sense land (which many judges do not) and disallowing Muslim immigration just as we disallow professed Neo-Nazis from coming to America. Freedom of religion should not equate to freedom of immigration.

      • James Lincoln says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 2:46 pm

        Wellington,

        After considerable thought, my current position – which could change with additional evidence – is that islam, unfortunately, is a religion. Pure evil – and sick to the core – but a religion.

        This is unfortunate and the inclusion of islam was likely unanticipated by our forefathers who wrote the U.S. Constitution, carefully followed-up later by Amendments.

        If islam could be excluded by a U.S.Constitutional Amendment I would be in favor of that.

        Until then, any parts of islam that that are in conflict with the U.S. Constitution and other laws should NOT be allowed to be practiced.

        I would also recommend that islamic teachings / mosques MUST follow ALL IRS rules to maintain their tax-exempt status. I have included below an excerpt from Publication 1828, Tax Guide for Churches and Religious Organizations. I am particularly concerned with item #4.

        =================================================================

        Tax-Exempt Status

        Churches and religious organizations, like many other charitable organizations, qualify for exemption from federal income tax under IRC Section 501(c)(3) and are generally eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions.

        To qualify for tax-exempt status, the organization must meet the following requirements (covered in greater detail throughout this publication):

        The organization must be organized and operated exclusively for religious, educational, scientific or other charitable purposes;

        1. net earnings may not inure to the benefit of any private individual or shareholder;

        2. no substantial part of its activity may be attempting to influence legislation;

        3. the organization may not intervene in political campaigns; and

        4. the organization’s purposes and activities may not be illegal or violate fundamental public policy.

        • Wellington says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 3:59 pm

          Thanks for your reply, James. You know, your bringing up the IRS as perhaps one way to restrict Islam’s nefarious and freedom-crushing designs reminded me of how the US government ultimately nailed Al Capone, i.e., on tax fraud. Hey, whatever works to keep Islam to a minimum here in America while at the same time not destroying freedom in order to protect freedom. If we do that, Islam wins.

          What I think I most despise about Islam—and reasonable minds, optimally while drinking the beer of their choice and eating a fine pork product, could debate what is most bothersome about Mo’s creed since there are so many chief objections that could be raised—is the way it will parasitically use freedom to destroy freedom.

          Parasites are a menace and detestable. Here Islam “stands” high on the list. Very.

          Happy Easter to you and yours, which very salutation openly expressed in sundry Islamic countries could be dangerous and thus demonstrative again of just how wretched Islam truly is. Frankly, I will tolerate no longer any defense of Islam anymore than I would tolerate a defense of Nazism or Marxism. If I lose friends because of this, and I already have, I deem such friends not really friends at all because who needs fools for friends? Though I would add here that I have actually made friends because of my assessments of Islam. A fair trade-off I would contend.

          In any case, take good care on this Easter Day. Always good to read your comments which are replete with perceptiveness and a highly commendable honesty.

        • James Lincoln says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 5:44 pm

          Wellington,

          Thank you for the most kind words.

          Hope you are enjoying a wonderful Easter day with you and yours!

        • eduardo odraude says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 7:07 pm

          Nos. 2 and 3 could, in theory, provide the basis for revoking taxe exempt status from some mosques, or getting some imams fired at least, I suppose. But only in theory. In practice, it would probably be politically impossible, at least for the present.

  14. Giacomo Latta says

    Apr 12, 2020 at 11:03 am

    ”there were Muslims who accompanied the Spanish as a guide to the New World in their early 16th century conquest of what became Arizona and New Mexico”
    Did any of these Spanish mysteriously die of a slit throat? Yeah? Well, time to rewrite history then.

    • Tony Naim says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 12:32 pm

      The Muslims you refer to may have not done any harm to the conquistadors in Arizona or New Mexico. However, their brothers had occupied and murdered the Spaniards in SPAIN for 700 years before they were expelled.
      There is no need to rewrite history. Go experience first hand the conditions of religious freedom in the Islamic world today, it will save you the sarcastic effort to rewrite history.

      • Giacomo Latta says

        Apr 12, 2020 at 2:55 pm

        Sorry for the subtle sarcasm of mine.

        • Tony Naim says

          Apr 12, 2020 at 7:42 pm

          No problem. Happy easter

  15. bitcounter says

    Apr 12, 2020 at 12:25 pm

    everybody talks about the religion but nowhere I see people talk about the financing of that religion. The topic and preoccupation of every american -money- seems to be neglected in this discussion. Money is the great equalizer, if you are few but have an enormous amount of it, the more people you can ‘buy’. Imagine what effect that has on the advance of a religion.

    • Wellington says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 1:07 pm

      “The topic and preoccupation of every american {sic}—money—seems to be neglected in this discussion.”

      Perhaps this “neglect” is due to the fact that your sweeping characterization is fallacious.

    • schwami says

      Apr 12, 2020 at 2:54 pm

      To my American friends,

      You need to be very wary of these biped snakes radicals. We have relost several parts in India. Please do not make the same mistake. Any more rise in Muslim power in America can spell doom for hindus.

      Can any of you write on this topic;

      From Radical Islamic Terrorism to Radical Islamic Journalism, how the jihad radicals are unnerving the world.

      Purpose is to highlight the viciousness and vileness of Radical Muslim Journalists. We have 10,000 of thousands and they are drowning our voice.

      Thank you so much. I love Mr Robert Spencer and all of you.

  16. Daniel Triplett says

    Apr 12, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    1A:

    “ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. “

    The World has an estimated 4200 religions, of which 19 are considered ‘major’.

    While “freely exercising” any of these religions created yesterday or tomorrow is protected by US Constitution, harming others or the state, or conspiring to harm others or the state is not protected and is already codified felony.

    Islam requires all humans to emulate Muhammad, the ‘perfect’ man. Islam is ‘perfect’, immutable, and requires 100% buy-in and compliance for all humans. Islamic doctrine is rife with compulsory Criminal Conspiracy (Murder, Sedition, etc.). This makes every Muslim a criminal conspirator at large.

    Debating/deciding whether Islam is a “religion” is perhaps an unnecessary exercise. US law already criminalizes the “behavior” of every Muslim. 1A gives no protection.

    • PRCS says

      Apr 13, 2020 at 1:14 am

      Correcto Mundo!

      Labeling Islam “an evil religion” is a subjective definition. Many, perhaps most of the world’s population, myself included, believes it is; though Muslims surely disagree

      That it IS a theocracy which “requires all humans to emulate Muhammad”–and that any and all theocracies are by definition incompatible with our man-made Constitution and laws–is an unarguable fact.

      Whatever goodness that might exist in Islam aside, that the First Amendment prohibits *Congress from either establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof–though not every religious practice–is THE primary reason Islamic law, as a whole, has no legitimate place in America’s governance.

      Yet.

      Theocracy: a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.
      Democracy: a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

      *Congress and other law making bodies can, have and must continue to enact laws that prohibit religious practices which run afoul of our laws: the punitive amputation of a thief’s hand being one example. With which hand Muslims wipe is not.

      Per the following article:

      Why No Christian Should Support a Theocracy
      https://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/russellmoore/why-no-christian-should-support-a-theocracy.html

      “Some Christians…might wonder why we would use the word “theocracy” pejoratively. After all, the word simply means “rule by God.” Shouldn’t we aspire, they might ask, to just that: governments ruled by God?
      Theocracies are awful and abusive, not only because they oppress human beings but because they also blaspheme God.”

      My two cents…

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Apr 13, 2020 at 4:44 pm

        Those are valuable 2 cents! Excellent.

  17. Steiner says

    Apr 12, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    This is Islam. Jewish Scripture thousands of years before Islam, narrated how Isaac was God’s promise and Ishmael was not…. Come Muhammad, over 3k years later, takes Jewish Scripture and changes the account… Then rewrites the Egyptian account and on and on…. This is Islam. A lie that is allowed to continue simply because eole are ignorant of its ast. Simply, it tries to rewrite history in order to give itself oxygen…. It hates the Truth.

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