I recently came across the title of an Arabic book, “We will never live as Dhimmis” (lan naish zimieen), written by a Lebanese Christian, Amin Naji, in 1979.
A Dhimmi is a Christian or Jew living in a region overrun by Muslim conquest who was accorded a protected status in exchange of a poll tax (Jizya), and allowed to retain his or her original faith.
Lebanon is an example. It was established after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the end of World War I in 1923. Since the majority there were Christians, unlike any other Middle Eastern land, the French mandated a Christian president and commander in chief. Then, in 1975, a civil war broke out over the political privileges of Christians and the rights of Lebanese Muslims who had become the majority of the country.
In his book, Naji discusses the destruction of pre-civil war Lebanon by a coalition of Muslim militias and their Palestinian allies. He wrote of violence and annihilation. He also listed one of the tools that had been used, before the war, by Muslim “conquerors.” It is “the Arabization via distorting history, changing the national identity, and destroying culture”. This cultural jihad gets too little attention and is too little understood.
Some U.S. Muslims are applying this basic scheme here. They do not have adequate political control in the U.S. to simply impose a new Islamic culture on our society. But they are infiltrating the culture by claiming that Muslims and Islam have long been central contributors to American governance and culture.
Western audiences often hear these Muslim declarations as an appeal to the wider society and to allow Muslims to be real participants in the E Pluribus Unum experiment that is America. We would do well to remind ourselves of the old Arabic proverb about the camel’s nose under the tent.
One egregious example of this groundwork for cultural Jihad appears in the PBS program “History Detectives”. It claims, “When the first Muslims came to the land that would become the United States is unclear. Many historians claim that the earliest Muslims came from the Senegambian region of Africa in the early 14th century. It is believed they were Moors, expelled from Spain, who made their way to the Caribbean and possibly to the Gulf of Mexico.”
PBS claims that when Columbus made his journey to the United States, he carried a book written by Portuguese Muslims who had navigated their way to the New World in the 12th century.
Others—most notably a man named Istafan—claim there were Muslims who accompanied the Spanish as a guide to the New World in their early 16th century conquest of what became Arizona and New Mexico.
The make-up of the first real wave of Muslims in the United States is clear. They were African slaves of whom ten to fifteen percent were said to be Muslims. It was difficult for them to maintain their religion and many were forcibly converted to Christianity. Any effort to practice Islam, and keep the traditional clothing and names alive had to be done in secret.
Edwin Gaustad in his nearly encyclopedic book, “A Documentary History of Religion in America to the civil war” (Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company; 2nd edition (April 1993), does not mention any social, cultural, or intellectual contribution from Muslims to early America. Could the absence prove the point?
There are farcical claims that Thomas Jefferson relied on the Quran as a source of inspiration and insight regarding the writing of the American constitution. One might well find Denise Spellberg’s book Jefferson’s Quran interesting—though not insightful—on the matter. However, nowhere in Jefferson’s constitution is there any overt quotation or allusion to the Quran.
In his book, Jefferson’s War, Joseph Wheelan noted that after Jefferson created an American Navy to combat Muslim pirates in North Africa, and American forces had their first major victory under Lieutenant Andrew Sterett, there was celebration in the United States at the defeat of the Muslim pirates. President Jefferson used the navy and marines to make real progress in defeating what was commonly called “The Terror”. (Wheelan, Joseph, Jefferson’s War, Carroll and Graf Publishing, NY 2003, p. 119)
Nothing in Jefferson’s combat against the Muslim corsairs of North Africa indicates any appreciation of Muslim culture or Islamic approach to governance.
In December, 2019, the Muslim American Society (MAS)-Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) held a convention in Chicago–the largest in the nation. At the convention, guest speaker Dalia Moghahed, gave a speech titled “Muslims that Shaped America,” captured on video. She began by responding to a plaintive cry from a Muslim American mother who asked, “What can we do to help our children who face constant verbal attacks, name-calling, insults and micro aggressions at their schools against their identity; only because they are Muslims?’”
Ms. Mogahed said that Muslims need to be given the intellectual tools to confront “the flawed and crooked framework that make up the ideas of Islamophobia.” They are to teach that “their roots as Muslims in this country run deep” and “This is their country, and no one has the right to tell them otherwise” and “no one should be waiting for a welcome to their own house.” Ms. Mogahed also said, “So if someone has a problem with our children being here, then they can go back to where they came from … This is not mere rhetoric, but historical fact.”
She then made her case for this point of view.
She stated, “There were Muslims with Christopher Columbus when he landed in the Americas” and “It is important to note that the first country to recognize the United States as an independent nation was Morocco.” She also said, “This is just to lay a framework to challenge the myth that there is an inherent and inevitable conflict between the values of the United States and the values of Muslim societies, civilizations or communities. It is simply not supported by logic or history.” Furthermore she said, “Estimates range from 10 % to 30% of enslaved Africans brought to the United States were Muslims.”
Ms. Mogahed’s efforts are not sophisticated, but exemplify, at the popular level, the clash between Western open society and Muslim ideology today.
More eloquent and polished Islamist apologists and speakers are preparing their own versions of this Islamic claim. We cannot only worry about violent Jihad, we must recognize and confront the academic effort to lay claim to the United States as a legitimate possession of the House of Islam that is now temporarily controlled by the Kuffar (infidels).
Social and political theorist and philosopher Isaiah Berlin said in his lectures, “the German poet Heine warned the French not to underestimate the power of ideas: philosophical concepts nurtured in the stillness of a professor’s study could destroy a civilization.” (“Two Concepts of Liberty,” “Four Essays on Liberty,” Oxford, England: Oxford University Press, 1969, p. 120)
To this thought about a professor’s power we must add “or an imam”. Distorting history by inserting Muslim memes into the nation’s historical ethos and shoving pre-Islamic society aside has worked before in Islamic history.
Now, they are applying this ideological approach as an initial blow for the Islamization of our society and to supplant our open society ideals.
Darrell Pack is an Arabist and a member of Islamic Reform Forum.
David Grisez says
One thing that I really dislike about the ideology of Islam is the teachings from the Quran and the Hadiths that teach Muslims that what ever land, country or nation that they go to that they must do what they can to fight against that land, conquer that land and rule that land with Islamic Sharia Law. The ideology of Islam teaches Muslims that they can never assimilate into a nation and become part of that nation or submit to the non Islamic laws of that nation. As a result of this large numbers of Muslims in a nation will cause trouble for that nation. I do not want the United States to be ruined by Muslims trying to turn the United States into an Islamic nation with Islamic Sharia Law.
James Lincoln says
Amen, David…
Anjuli Pandavar says
I’m afraid it’s a great deal worse than this, David. To their minds, in their view of the universe, they *already* own your land. Their Allah has given the entire earth to Muslims exclusively. The fact that parts of it are run by non-Muslims means only that shortly after birth, they were turned away from Islam by their deluded parents, who had themselves been turned away from their birth religion of Islam, which is everybody’s religion at birth.
The Muslims invading non-Muslim lands seek to “restore” those lands to Islam and put them back into the hands of Muslims, to whom they rightly belong. It is also for this reason that Muslims refer to converting to Islam as “reverting” to Islam, the coverts original religion.
Muslims are supposed to “offer” Islam back to the infidels in the lands the latter rule. But should they turn down such generosity, then they’ve committed “aggression” against Muslims who are then compelled to fight the infidels in self-defence until they submit to Allah, become dhimmis (an “offer” only open to Jews and Christians), or die. So you see, no matter what Muslims do to non-Muslims or countries ruled by non-Muslims, in the Muslim’s mind, they are *never* the aggressors. The aggressors are those who resist the Muslims, who defend their countries against jihad, and who refuse Islam. To Muslims this is as real and true as the sun rising in the East. They are hardwired for this.
Most people in the West have no idea, not the foggiest, of how dangerous Muslims are *and will not be told* because, because, because… There is an endless list of reasons for not looking this thing straight in the face. And it is a very dark place to look. Not all landmines explode, but to give even one Muslim an even break is like using a landmine as a pillow on the off-chance that it will not explode.
Honest Ali says
Well said. You are spot on when you say that most people refuse to look this danger in the face… it will be our undoing…
darrell Pack says
Honest Ali,
This is why we need all voices calling for a reality check
CogitoErgoSum says
It’s interesting to me that although Muhammad did not intend for people to know it, his idea that everyone is born a Muslim fits with the Christian idea that we are estranged from God at birth and come into this world as slaves in bondage to the Father of Lies. Jesus said we all must be born a second time from water and spirit (through baptism) in order to become the adopted children of God and heirs to the Kingdom of God. Is it not strange that Muhammad’s own teachings can stand as evidence that his Allah (Father of Lies) worshiped by Muslims is not the God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) worshiped by Christians.
darrell Pack says
CogitoErgoSum,
good insight.
gravenimage says
Good points, David, Anjuli, and CogitoErgoSum.
One point–it is not just that Islam blames parents for those who are non-Muslim–it blames each non-Muslim themselves.
“Kufar” doesn’t actually mean simply non-Muslim–it means “denier of the truth”. Muslims believe that Infidels know that Islam is true and deny it out of perversity. Bizarrely, they think this even of people who have never even heard of Islam.
Note how different this is to the Christian idea, which is that people need to hear the Good News.
The different ideas explain in large part why Muslims and Christians generally treat non-believers so very differently.
Boromir's Horn says
Anjuli Pandavar
You paint a bleak yet accurate picture. Now, what can we do about it? Of course we should call them out on every lie, murder and rape. Do everything we can to expose and defund the supporters of the jihad. We certainly need to stop electing them to office. Stop the ideology of the left (good luck with that) that deny’s them even being a world threat. There are many people working hard to close their borders, something that should have been long ago, but maybe this virus will help the world to see the value in that.
But what can be done that we seem to be overlooking? What will make a difference?
darrell Pack says
Boromir,
The character you have chosen to be a namesake for, you live in a time when the truth will find few hearers, but you need to fidn those in your sphere of influence and tell them anyway.Give them this article and then ask to talk with them. And write in local papers anytime you find Jihadi inclinations in the local mosques. Pray. Thanks.
Boromir's Horn says
darrell,
A long, hard slog indeed
darrell Pack says
Anjuli Pandavar, powerful metaphor you have chosen.
Rufolino says
Thanks Anjluli, a brilliant exposition of this topic.
Geof Barrington says
Anjuli ..you are right on the money there . Muslums are mortal enemies of us all
dsinc says
Dar al Islam – House of Islam – Muslim rule (sharia law)
Dar al Harb – House of war – Muslim takeover in progress.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is how Muslims think.
dsinc says
dsinc says
Apr 13, 2020 at 1:20 am
Dar al Islam – House of Islam – Muslim rule (sharia law)
Dar al Harb – House of war – Muslim takeover in progress.
dsinc says
Dar al Islam – House of Islam – Muslim rule (sharia law)
Dar al Harb – House of war – Muslim takeover in progress.
Savvy Kafir says
The only effective, long-term solution is to deport all Muslims from the U.S., and any other Western nation that wants to remain free and civilized. All other “solutions” just postpone the inevitable.
James Lincoln says
Savvy Kafir,
For starters, we should immediately deport as many muslims from the United States as legally possible. That should be a given.
What are your thoughts about legal strategies used to deport muslims who are here legally, especially the ones who are US citizens? And where would they be deported to?
I’m not trying to be a smart a**, I’m just looking for answers…
gravenimage says
James, I think this is a good step:
“Trump officials pushing to strip convicted jihad terrorists of citizenship”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/06/trump-officials-pushing-to-strip-convicted-jihad-terrorists-of-citizenship
The “Muslim ban” also means that Muslims entering the US in the first place is way down.
Savvy Kafir says
James — The legal issues need to be addressed via an amendment to the Constitution that bans Islam as a unique threat to free, civilized societies, and to the lives of non-Muslims — and which makes it legal to deport all Muslims, including citizens of the U.S., who must be stripped of their citizenship by this amendment — and legalizing the seizure of Muslim assets.
As to the question of where to deport them to, I think the answer is for the U.S. military to BRIEFLY seize control of coastal territory in one or more Muslim-majority countries, just long enough to set up relocation centers. All of this would be a colossal undertaking; but much of it could be financed by seizing the Western assets of oil-rich Muslims. (The same Muslims who have been using their wealth to further the Islamization of the U.S., in many cases.)
This massive operation would be the best use the U.S. military has EVER been put to. The fate of the U.S. as a free, civilized society depends upon it. If we fail to do this, eventually the Demographic Jihad will transform America into an Islamic society ruled by Sharia.
The necessary political will to make all of this happen will be achieved if the public properly understands the threat that Islam poses.
The same strategy needs to be pursued by all Western nations. And the sooner we can make this happen, the less expensive and less bloody the process will be, and the more certain the outcome.
James Lincoln says
Savvy Kafir,
Thank you very much for your reply.
Your post contains some very interesting options that should be seriously thought through – and seriously considered – by the United States government as well as other Western governments.
The United States government needs to take bold action with “all hands on deck” analogous to the way that we are currently dealing with the coronavirus, as well as the way that we previously conducted the Manhattan project during World War II…
PRCS says
A note, David. An FYI.
The sharia is the embodiment of Islamic law (Qur’an, hadith collections, rulings and opinions of Muslim “scholars”, etc.). It defines and controls every aspect of every Muslim’s life (and of the kuffar where Muslims rule)–everywhere and always. It is Islam’s version of The Yellow Brick Road.
darrell Pack says
good point David, share that fact with as many in your sphere of influence as you can.
Roger Woodhouse says
Anyone else experiencing difficulty in trying to make more than one comment on these sites?
Wellington says
I have off and on. Try a different browser for a while. It worked for me.
Roger Woodhouse says
seems like I am being blocked here.Why?
gravenimage says
Roger, a number of posters have had trouble commenting lately. Use the “Contact Us” box to report any technical problems. I doubt it has anything to do with your content.
Mary says
I watched a show about the beginnings of Christianity and I so impressed to learn that ANY RACE COULD BECOME A CHRISTIAN 2000 years ago!
Pete Knows says
Never against the core of your words… but please use the words in the correct terms. Nothing hateful! Nation comes from tribe!! So if you are Iranian and You move to the UK and You get a British passport after while. Your nationality might be Persian,… but not British. Your citizenship is British and you might contribute to the British society. Your grand grandchildren will be of a different nationality if the Iranian part is down to 1/4 and 3/4 of the other. No hate. Just how things are written. Jewish again is different, your mother has to be jewish, so you are of jewish nationality. You can convert to jewish religion, but never to the nationality. You might get a Japanese citizenship but you never become Japanese (one exception was made ever!)
Om Prakash Sharma says
They can be blatant liars
gravenimage says
Islam itself teaches lying to Infidels.
Wellington says
Fine article by Darrell Pack. And so fitting that Muslims (and non-Muslim apologists for Islam) distort history since Islam distorts virtually everything it touches, including the truth in general and a real Golden Rule for all, casualties both of them most surely due to the massive error (and lie) which is Islam.
eduardo odraude says
Yes, Islam fundamentally is psychological warfare masked as religion. Islam’s tenets are lies designed to undermine and destroy resistance to Islamic takeover of one’s mind and one’s polity. Islam has no respect for psychological or spiritual boundaries. Islam is not just an abuser and rapist of women, but a rapist of the human soul and spirit. The anti-spirit behind this religion hates humanity and seeks to destroy it and absorb it.
Wellington says
Fine summation, eduardo. No doubt about it, Islam sucks many times over.
Jayell says
“”We will not live as dhimmis” sounds too conciliatry and apologetic. “The muslims will learn to respect and live as Westerners or return from whence they came” sounds far better.
Roger Woodhouse says
hear hear Jayell.Adapt or leave.
Savvy Kafir says
Or, better yet, just leave! Period.
Muslims do not belong in the civilized world.
Dude says
The impotent god tells his brainwashed tribe to pillage for him, so he can be respected by the whole world.
Only fools would believe that anyone but monsters like them could respect such a ‘god’. And because they are ordered to remain foolish, incapable of hearing from God, their idiot vile lives are spent entirely in darkness, using religion to satisfy their
animalistic lust and desires.
Fortunately their stupidity can’t possibly realize just how inferior their powers are – impotent god, inbred stupid intellects, and completely without weaponry (once we stop selling ours to them). It will be over in a few years – the truth is flying around the world at the speed of light on every phone and computer.
Soon their lies and attempts to hide history will no longer find listeners. Then they will start it, and almost immediately it will end. Forever.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Darryll, Thank you very much for such an important article and so well written. This question is long overdue for open discussion.
PRCS says
That the video is several years old, and has so few comments supports the “long overdue: issue.
Walter Schumm says
I suggest you read the paper by myself in Religions this month. Thanks, Walter Schumm
gravenimage says
Do you have a link, Walter?
PRCS says
Thank you, Colonel.
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/11/3/102/htm
gravenimage says
Thanks for the link, PRCS.
somehistory says
mogahed said, “…. no one has the right to tell them otherwise”
So totally wrong, wrong, wrong. Everyone…everyone…has the God-given Freedom of Speech that the Constitution (which she claims to be a part of moslim history) guarantees. Anyone can say to anyone else..legally…”You don’t belong here. Go back from whence you came.”
If one says that to a person born in the U.S. of parents born in the U.S (or otherwise, legally a citizen, esp by legal birth), then it will be **untrue,** but the one speaking has the “right” to be wrong.
moslims notoriously, lay claim to everything except for ever being wrong. This ‘moslims were here first’ nonsense is just that; nonsense. And begun to influence the minds of those easily swayed to believe whatever someone ‘new’ says about anything. There are a lot of those in society today, people who are unaware of the Truth of what islam is all about and the goals of the moslims.
So d mogahed…who came to infamy with ‘o’ and his racket of “fundamentally ruining” everything, Go live in some moslim majority country where you would fit right in. See, I have the “right” to say that.
eduardo odraude says
The “Muslims were here first” meme is just a very typical kind of Islamic thievery, exactly like when they claim we were all born as Muslims but that we were all in effect stolen from Islam by other religions, corrupted to become Jews or Christians or atheists or Hindus or Buddhists. Since we were Muslims first, Islam has a “right” to take us back, you see. It wouldn’t matter if such claims were merely philosophical or theological. But Islam is a totalitarian system relying on psychological and physical violence to enforce those claims. So Islam is a lot of dangerous psy-ops manipulation and gaslighting. When Muhammad said “War is deceit,” he meant that on a deeper level than Muslims realize. Because the whole Islamic doctrine is deceit backed by terror, a combination used to break the independent mind; and Muslims are in a way the biggest victims. Really, the whole of Islam is encapsulated in that phrase: “War is deceit.” Islam is deceit and war, and nothing more.
mortimer says
Darrell Pack has pinpointed the problem that Western intellectuals are almost all ignoring:
“Isaiah Berlin said in his lectures, “the German poet Heine warned the French not to underestimate the power of ideas: philosophical concepts nurtured in the stillness of a professor’s study could destroy a civilization.”
darrell Pack says
Motimer, this is why we need intellectuals like Robert Spencer, my Friend Hesham Shehab, and Raymond Ibrahim to counter the Islamic narrative while brilliant but deluded guys and gals like John Espisito and Karen Armstrong are empowering a 5th column. Thanks for you contribution to the conversation.
gravenimage says
“We will never Live as Dhimmis”: The Stealth Cultural Jihad in America
………………
Fine piece from Darrell Pack.
The worst thing is that while all decent people oppose Jihad terror, few even recognize stealth Jihad.
Savvy Kafir says
True. And the stealth jihad and (especially) the demographic jihad pose a FAR greater threat than terrorism. While terrorist attacks are dreadful for the individuals killed or maimed, and for their loved ones, the stealth jihad and demographic jihad destroy entire societies.
gravenimage says
All of these are just tactics, Savvy Kafir–all having the same aim of forcing our subjugation to Islam.
Stephen Hiller says
Even the German philosopher Goethe said it’s “not really a lie” if you tell a falsehood to an enemy. Obviously the American Judeo-Christian culture is Islam’s enemy so go ahead, Muslims, lie all you want.
eduardo odraude says
In war, all states use deception. That is not what makes Islam objectionable. The problem is that Islam is a totalitarian expansionist state. In other words, it not only uses deception when in war. Islam, as a totalitarian system, IS deception and war, and fundamentally is nothing else. Deception and war against its own people by its own people, and against others.
Daniel Triplett says
Excellent analysis and distinction
gravenimage says
Fine post, Eduardo.
Tony Naim says
A lot of blood was spilled to preserve a free Christian presence in Mount Lebanon over the past 1400years- since the rise of Islam. The Maronite Church was born as a direct consequence of the Islamic conquest.
Every American needs to understand the 2 faces of Islam.
The Koran of Medina is savage and Brutal .
2500 Mosques in America continue to preach the tenants of Islam as dictated by Al-Azhar in Cairo, with a following of more than 10 million citizens.
4 particular elements of Islam are inconsistent with our democracy and the values of our republic:
-Dhimmitude
-Possessions of the right hand
-Al wala’ wal Barra’
-Jihad
These 4 tenants of Islam will have to be outlawed.CLEARLY AND PUBLICLY. To avoid another civil war down the road, like the one that happened in Lebanon.This is the duty of our legislators. With a strong political leadership, these tenants CAN also be abolished from the face of the earth.
eduardo odraude says
Good post, but you mean “tenets,” not “tenants.” Also, the Meccan Qur’an is less peaceful than it seems. Even at that time, Muhammad was plotting slaughter and conquest. See, for example
Muhammad affirms that those who do not follow him will be slaughtered
On page 222 (326 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad:
https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n133/mode/1up
gravenimage says
+1
James Lincoln says
Lots of comments regarding whether or not islam meets the U.S. Constitution’s “qualifications” for being a religion.
Interesting arguments on both sides of the debate.
I invite all Jihad Watch readers to review Robert Spencer’s feature article from 2019 – along with all of the very interesting comments regarding islam – vis-à-vis and its questionable religious status…
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/03/washington-post-hits-baffling-argument-that-islam-is-not-a-religion
Wellington says
Thanks for the link, James. I see I was involved on that thread (what a shock, no?). You might want to take a look at my 10:35 A.M. post of today of about a half hour ago which is a response to Terry Gain’s earlier 8:26 A.M. post.
Terry thinks Islam cannot be banned unless it is deemed not a religion. I don’t think this is necessary, never mind the EXTREME unlikelihood that Islam would ever have religious status stripped form it.
I readily admit that Islam as with certain others matters (e.g. abortion) does stretch the Constitution this way and that, but I always try to keep in mind that the Constitution is not a suicide pact and there is no reason why evil religions should not have religious protection under the First Amendment, just as evil secular ideologies like Marxism and Nazism do. What a person BELIEVES IN should be protected but what a person DOES based on a particular belief system should by all means not always be protected. Belief v. action here.
And there is no good reason why you can’t have Islam a protected belief system under the First Amendment while still functioning in common sense land (which many judges do not) and disallowing Muslim immigration just as we disallow professed Neo-Nazis from coming to America. Freedom of religion should not equate to freedom of immigration.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
After considerable thought, my current position – which could change with additional evidence – is that islam, unfortunately, is a religion. Pure evil – and sick to the core – but a religion.
This is unfortunate and the inclusion of islam was likely unanticipated by our forefathers who wrote the U.S. Constitution, carefully followed-up later by Amendments.
If islam could be excluded by a U.S.Constitutional Amendment I would be in favor of that.
Until then, any parts of islam that that are in conflict with the U.S. Constitution and other laws should NOT be allowed to be practiced.
I would also recommend that islamic teachings / mosques MUST follow ALL IRS rules to maintain their tax-exempt status. I have included below an excerpt from Publication 1828, Tax Guide for Churches and Religious Organizations. I am particularly concerned with item #4.
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Tax-Exempt Status
Churches and religious organizations, like many other charitable organizations, qualify for exemption from federal income tax under IRC Section 501(c)(3) and are generally eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions.
To qualify for tax-exempt status, the organization must meet the following requirements (covered in greater detail throughout this publication):
The organization must be organized and operated exclusively for religious, educational, scientific or other charitable purposes;
1. net earnings may not inure to the benefit of any private individual or shareholder;
2. no substantial part of its activity may be attempting to influence legislation;
3. the organization may not intervene in political campaigns; and
4. the organization’s purposes and activities may not be illegal or violate fundamental public policy.
Wellington says
Thanks for your reply, James. You know, your bringing up the IRS as perhaps one way to restrict Islam’s nefarious and freedom-crushing designs reminded me of how the US government ultimately nailed Al Capone, i.e., on tax fraud. Hey, whatever works to keep Islam to a minimum here in America while at the same time not destroying freedom in order to protect freedom. If we do that, Islam wins.
What I think I most despise about Islam—and reasonable minds, optimally while drinking the beer of their choice and eating a fine pork product, could debate what is most bothersome about Mo’s creed since there are so many chief objections that could be raised—is the way it will parasitically use freedom to destroy freedom.
Parasites are a menace and detestable. Here Islam “stands” high on the list. Very.
Happy Easter to you and yours, which very salutation openly expressed in sundry Islamic countries could be dangerous and thus demonstrative again of just how wretched Islam truly is. Frankly, I will tolerate no longer any defense of Islam anymore than I would tolerate a defense of Nazism or Marxism. If I lose friends because of this, and I already have, I deem such friends not really friends at all because who needs fools for friends? Though I would add here that I have actually made friends because of my assessments of Islam. A fair trade-off I would contend.
In any case, take good care on this Easter Day. Always good to read your comments which are replete with perceptiveness and a highly commendable honesty.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
Thank you for the most kind words.
Hope you are enjoying a wonderful Easter day with you and yours!
eduardo odraude says
Nos. 2 and 3 could, in theory, provide the basis for revoking taxe exempt status from some mosques, or getting some imams fired at least, I suppose. But only in theory. In practice, it would probably be politically impossible, at least for the present.
Giacomo Latta says
”there were Muslims who accompanied the Spanish as a guide to the New World in their early 16th century conquest of what became Arizona and New Mexico”
Did any of these Spanish mysteriously die of a slit throat? Yeah? Well, time to rewrite history then.
Tony Naim says
The Muslims you refer to may have not done any harm to the conquistadors in Arizona or New Mexico. However, their brothers had occupied and murdered the Spaniards in SPAIN for 700 years before they were expelled.
There is no need to rewrite history. Go experience first hand the conditions of religious freedom in the Islamic world today, it will save you the sarcastic effort to rewrite history.
Giacomo Latta says
Sorry for the subtle sarcasm of mine.
Tony Naim says
No problem. Happy easter
bitcounter says
everybody talks about the religion but nowhere I see people talk about the financing of that religion. The topic and preoccupation of every american -money- seems to be neglected in this discussion. Money is the great equalizer, if you are few but have an enormous amount of it, the more people you can ‘buy’. Imagine what effect that has on the advance of a religion.
Wellington says
“The topic and preoccupation of every american {sic}—money—seems to be neglected in this discussion.”
Perhaps this “neglect” is due to the fact that your sweeping characterization is fallacious.
schwami says
To my American friends,
You need to be very wary of these biped snakes radicals. We have relost several parts in India. Please do not make the same mistake. Any more rise in Muslim power in America can spell doom for hindus.
Can any of you write on this topic;
From Radical Islamic Terrorism to Radical Islamic Journalism, how the jihad radicals are unnerving the world.
Purpose is to highlight the viciousness and vileness of Radical Muslim Journalists. We have 10,000 of thousands and they are drowning our voice.
Thank you so much. I love Mr Robert Spencer and all of you.
Daniel Triplett says
1A:
“ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. “
The World has an estimated 4200 religions, of which 19 are considered ‘major’.
While “freely exercising” any of these religions created yesterday or tomorrow is protected by US Constitution, harming others or the state, or conspiring to harm others or the state is not protected and is already codified felony.
Islam requires all humans to emulate Muhammad, the ‘perfect’ man. Islam is ‘perfect’, immutable, and requires 100% buy-in and compliance for all humans. Islamic doctrine is rife with compulsory Criminal Conspiracy (Murder, Sedition, etc.). This makes every Muslim a criminal conspirator at large.
Debating/deciding whether Islam is a “religion” is perhaps an unnecessary exercise. US law already criminalizes the “behavior” of every Muslim. 1A gives no protection.
PRCS says
Correcto Mundo!
Labeling Islam “an evil religion” is a subjective definition. Many, perhaps most of the world’s population, myself included, believes it is; though Muslims surely disagree
That it IS a theocracy which “requires all humans to emulate Muhammad”–and that any and all theocracies are by definition incompatible with our man-made Constitution and laws–is an unarguable fact.
Whatever goodness that might exist in Islam aside, that the First Amendment prohibits *Congress from either establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof–though not every religious practice–is THE primary reason Islamic law, as a whole, has no legitimate place in America’s governance.
Yet.
Theocracy: a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.
Democracy: a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
*Congress and other law making bodies can, have and must continue to enact laws that prohibit religious practices which run afoul of our laws: the punitive amputation of a thief’s hand being one example. With which hand Muslims wipe is not.
Per the following article:
Why No Christian Should Support a Theocracy
https://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/russellmoore/why-no-christian-should-support-a-theocracy.html
“Some Christians…might wonder why we would use the word “theocracy” pejoratively. After all, the word simply means “rule by God.” Shouldn’t we aspire, they might ask, to just that: governments ruled by God?
Theocracies are awful and abusive, not only because they oppress human beings but because they also blaspheme God.”
My two cents…
Daniel Triplett says
Those are valuable 2 cents! Excellent.
Steiner says
This is Islam. Jewish Scripture thousands of years before Islam, narrated how Isaac was God’s promise and Ishmael was not…. Come Muhammad, over 3k years later, takes Jewish Scripture and changes the account… Then rewrites the Egyptian account and on and on…. This is Islam. A lie that is allowed to continue simply because eole are ignorant of its ast. Simply, it tries to rewrite history in order to give itself oxygen…. It hates the Truth.