Prosecutor Alistair Richardson said: “The prosecution case is that both defendants are deeply radical. They supported the Islamic state in whatever ways they could….Mohammed expressed rejection of moderate, mainstream Islam in favour of the perversion of it advanced by the Islamic State.”
But why, Alistair? How did that happen? Where did they learn this “perversion” of “moderate, mainstream Islam,” and why did they come to prefer it to the real thing? Are there a lot of others like them? Why is it that moderate, mainstream Islam is so often unable to withstand challenge from this “perversion”? And finally, why do people like you never deign to answer questions like these?
More on this story. “Terrorist pair who raised more than £2,000 for ISIS and shared beheadings footage laugh as they are jailed for a total of more than 14 years,” by Sebastian Murphy-Bates, Mailonline, April 27, 2020:
Two terrorists who raised funds for ‘fighter brothers’ in the Middle East laughed as they were jailed for a total of more than 14 years.
Ayub Nurhussein, 29, helped raise £2,699.19 for jihadis in Iraq while sharing footage of military beheadings on social media between 11 April and 11 July last year.
Eritrean-born Nurhussein was caught on CCTV with his friend, Said Mohammed, 31, transferring £1,300 to a contact purportedly acting as a high-ranking ISIS soldier….
Nurhussein and Mohammed appeared together via video-link from HMP Wandsworth on (fri) and giggled throughout the hearing, guffawing loudly as they were described as ‘deeply radical.’…
Prosecutor Alistair Richardson said: ‘The prosecution case is that both defendants are deeply radical. They supported the Islamic state in whatever ways they could….
Mr Richardson said: ‘He spoke about speaking to the immigration bureau, the need for a permanent name to make a transfer, that it’s difficult to make a transfer because of the questioning and documents, that they should agree on the amount, and how many brothers would be involved, and that information could then be sent to the bureau. We say the references to bureau and office are clear references to the organisational structure within the Islamic State. Wassim went on to remind Mohammed that “this is the greatest jihad..”
‘Messages continue in April including references to jihad and an image from Islamic State media sent from Said Mohammed.
‘Wassim told Said Mohammed to co-ordinate with other brothers, see how many of them are and agree so that they can get on with the matter.
‘Mohammed expressed rejection of moderate, mainstream Islam in favour of the perversion of it advanced by the Islamic State.’…
The court heard Mohammed was a refugee who had entered the UK through Calais. He grew up in wartorn Eritrea where his home was burnt down with him inside after his father expressed political dissent, the court heard.
Nurhussein was jailed for nine years and six months. Mohammed was given five years and three months.
Passing sentence Judge Rebecca Poulet said: ‘It is quite clear that both men were whole-hearted supporters of this terrorist cause and that both wished the funds to go to support the fighters of that organisation….
‘The videos shared by Nurhussein were professionally produced and edited film showing beheading and the execution of enemies of Islamic State as well as tracts of spoken words encouraging others to the cause.
‘I found he intended to encourage terrorism by forwarding these videos to his landlord.
‘I have concluded there is a significant risk to the public as a result of Ayub Nurhussein’s commission of further specified offences….
‘In my judgement this material appears to be the most grave and alarming aspect of Ayub Nurhussein’s conduct. This is particularly so when I view it in the context of his other activity and beliefs. Overall, I have concluded that the defendant is dangerous.
The judge said Mohammed appeared to have ‘very impaired’ intellect and was ‘easily compliant.’
Judge Poulet said: ‘You were actively engaged with a number of others and some of those it appeared you duped into this arrangement.
‘I take into account the content of a psychological report. On testing, the psychologist found that both his reasoning, intellectual functioning and memory were very impaired. In addition, she found he is easily compliant.’…
Michael Copeland says
English lawyers have “very impaired” grasp of Islam, and it shows.
The unicorn they call “moderate, mainstream Islam” is, in fact, a carefully promoted perversion of the real Islam.
See “The Lamentable Shortcomings of Some English Judges and Senior Lawyers”:
https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/06/the-lamentable-shortcomings-of-some-english-judges-and-senior-lawyers/
Spiro says
There may be moderate
Muslims but there’s no such
Thing as moderate Islam
Terry Gain says
I assume that every “moderate” Muslim knows even less than I do about Islamic doctrine and history. Or is engaging in taqiyya. I don’t trust any of them
mortimer says
Good questions from TG. Response: Taqiyya is JIHAD OF THE TONGUE.
All Muslims do know SOMETHING about jihad. They know ‘jihad’ doesn’t mean going to the gym or floral arrangement.
I say confidently from experience that ALL Muslims DO LIE about the meaning (supremacism), motive (hate of the kafir) and method (jihad) of Islam. Otherwise, they will have left Islam. An ex-Muslim will explain to you the level of this deception.
When Muslims conceal, dissemble and cloak Islam from their kafir neighbors, they are engaging in verbal jihad. ‘Taqiyya’ is part of verbal jihad.
The ex-Muslim Sam Solomon, a former sheikh, said, “Taqiyya permeates almost all the activities and dealings of Muslims with non-Muslim societies.”
PRCS says
Because there’s no such thing as a ‘moderate’ version of Qur’an.
mortimer says
Exactly. No ‘moderate’ Koran, no ‘moderate’ Sira, no ‘moderate’ hadiths. All of Islam is motivated by the hatred that flows from Allah against the kafirs. Any Muslim who fails to hate the kafirs will be excluded from Islamic paradise.
Islam is a hate cult. Love it or leave it, Muslims. If you stay in it, you are choosing to be a hater.
PRCS says
Islam teaches Muslims to:
Worship a 7th century caravan raider’s concocted ‘guy in the sky’
and
‘Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”
Michael Copeland says
“What a fantastic contribution muslims make to this country!”
David Cameron
Jayell says
Absolutely. A laugh a minute!
Rufolino says
Sorry, but I’m not laughing.
It is Moslems who are laughing.
Terry Gain says
This is a question rather than an accusation, but I wonder whether Cameron was motivated to utter such plain nonsense by political opportunism, fear or petrodollars.
Michael Copeland says
Cameron was advised by serial liar Tariq Ramadan.
PRCS says
1, 2, and 3.
Leonard William Dunnet says
Mentally impaired he a 29 Carrat fruit cake. We should send him back Eritrea but before he goes give him an easily found and viewed tattoo saying ISIS CRETIN. If he comes back and gets caught jail him for life no parole.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
How does one pronounce “£2,699.19”?
My guess: “two thousand six hundred ninety-nine point one nine pounds”.
jayell says
No. It’s ‘Two thousand, six hundred and ninety-nine Pounds and nineteen pence’.
Jewcat says
But nineteen pence is a shilling and 7d pence
Michael Copeland says
Three shillings and ninepence ha’penny
Jayell says
“Muslims who raised funds for ISIS laugh as prosecutor describes them as “deeply radical”…”
Which just demonstrates the lack of respect that these repulsive specimens have for the UK. So why are they still here?
James Lincoln says
Jayell,
Maybe they were laughing at the prosecutor’s ignorance regarding mainstream islam…
PRCS says
Per the article, that’s exactly what they were doing.
Few jihadi ‘fighters’ are ever asked if they’re practicing ‘radical’ Islam.
Jayell says
Here’s something for a bit of entertainment in these difficult times.
Our local neighbourhood social media network sent round a message from (i believe) the police about the increased threat of opportunist terrorism as a result of the corona virus situation. The message didn’t offer to help or support to those citizens who feared being attacked, but listed signs to watch out for in those poor, misunderstood, deprived individuals whom everyone should help to stop them being radicalised.
These signs included:-
1. Feeling under threat
2. Feeling a sense of grievance ir injustice
3. Being in a transition time of life
4. Being influenced or controlled by a group
5. Need for a sense of identity or belonging
6. Mental health issues
7. Desire for status
8. Opportunistic involvement
9. A desire for a sense of adventure
10. Need to dominate or control others
11. A desire for political or social change
12. Susceptibility to indoctrination
That list just about encompasses all the sorts of things that have routinely been going on in Mr/Ms/Mrs Jo Public’s mind in the UK (and most other places?) for the thousands of years, but has never before been suggested as signs that these people are about to go round murdering and maiming people or blowing things up – until now, apparently. And this is because, in the UK at least, people have had these sorts of things in their minds but have never gone around creating murder and mayhem as a result – again, until now. Now, what is different about people in the UK at this point in time that makes these ‘normal’ states mind a grave cause for concern for public safety? Maybe something to do with the sorts of people that are in the UK now but weren’t here in more civilised times in the past? Who might these people be, I wonder???
Rob R (Brit stuck in Britainistan) says
Hey Robert, how do you write about this stuff every day without going crazy?
Just spending 5 minutes reading about what these nasty bastards are up to (all the time) makes me want to take a bath in liquid oxygen.
James Lincoln says
I think that Robert Spencer tries to keep his emotions in check – and sticks with a factual, evidence-based analysis of islam.
He has also stated in the past that he “has a life” outside of his work.
God bless him.
Terry Gain says
Robert Spencer is a miracle worker. I don’t know where he finds the energy and emotional equilibrium to do what he does every day.
Michael Copeland says
Hear hear.
James Lincoln says
+10
Porky The Crusader says
Me too.
Rufolino says
And what a brain.
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer also has a wry sense of humor, which helps in these mad times.
mortimer says
Robert Spencer is motivated by his love of all humanity and his desire for them to be free from discrimination and bigoted oppressors. No doubt, he feels that exposing the jihad threat is a vocation. To fail to denounce evil is to allow it to succeed.
gravenimage says
+1
Iambob says
Useful infidel prosecutor wouldn’t be so dumb, about Islam and jihadists, if he’d simply educate himself by listening to experts like Spencer, Geller, Warner, etc. He’d realize why they’re laughing at him: They aren’t ‘radical.’ Just devout-obeying the will of Allah and Mohammed.
Their laughter also indicates they realize the West has been rendered strategically defenseless against them (jihadists) due to willful ignorance and utter stupidity.
Chistopher Watson says
Mohamed will be out in 3 years or less. What will happen to him then? Will he be watched? He will still be dangerous, with an ‘impaired’ intellect. Has the government given up? Is it preparing us for the future Islamic government of our country?
Giacomo Latta says
With any luck he will be remanded to the Lesbian section of a women’s gaol (jail). He will be walking funny when he finally leaves.
Woke Infidel says
Radical = devout, pious, virtuous, orthodox. (Zealous in the performance of religious duties.) Moderate = Skeptic, pretender, nominal, barely observant. (Delinquent in religious duties.) Apostate = Dead. Of course these gents are laughing…the world believes that they are poor examples of their faith, whereas they are truly shining examples.
mortimer says
Congratulations to Judge Rebecca Poulet who appears to be more informed about jihad than most. Perhaps, she reads Jihad Watch.
infidel says
Disgusting barbaric creatures
grandpahalfdime says
I disagree with the prosecutor, they are not “deeply radical” but TYPICAL.
They are following the Qur’an and almost every religious leader in Islam, including the countries America considers allies.
THERE ARE NO MODERATE MUSLIMS.
Why” Simple, they are under death sentence unless they are lying about being moderate. That’s right, moderation is against the teachings in the Qur’an and it brands them as non-believers. Islam does not allow moderation by Muslims.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslims who raised funds for ISIS laugh as prosecutor describes them as “deeply radical”
……………….
Pious Muslims always laugh at the Infidels.