Wilton Gregory’s religion is not Christianity, but Leftism, as is the case with many of his colleagues as well. And so his primary concern is not stopping the persecution of Christians, but stopping Donald Trump. In contrast, Ignace Joseph III Younan, Matthew Hassan Kukah, and Yousif Habash are Christians who live in areas where Christians have suffered severe persecution by Muslims. Thus they have a more realistic view.
“Bishops in Middle East and Nigeria Applaud Trump’s Religious-Liberty Executive Order,” by Edward Pentin, National Catholic Register, June 10, 2020:
ROME — The content of President Donald Trump’s new executive order to promote religious freedom overseas was greatly overshadowed by the controversy that erupted at the time of its signing June 2 — but Church leaders in the Middle East and Nigeria contacted by the Register have enthusiastically welcomed the document.
The presidential directive, which President Trump signed at the White House after a controversial visit to the St. John Paul II National Shrine in Washington, D.C., prioritizes international religious freedom in foreign policy and overseas government aid projects, budgets $50 million a year for programs that advance religious liberty worldwide, and requires relevant State Department officials to undergo training in international religious freedom.
The executive order also aims to develop recommendations to “prioritize the appropriate use of economic tools” to advance religious liberty “in countries of particular concern.”…
Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Washington, noting the chaotic clearing of crowds the day before so that Trump could visit the fire-damaged St. John’s Episcopal Church in the city, said he found it “baffling and reprehensible” that the shrine would allow itself to be “so egregiously misused and manipulated.”…
“We welcome the recent Executive Order on Advancing Religious Freedom,” said Chaldean Archbishop Bashir Warda of Erbil, Iraq — an area that has lost hundreds of thousands of Christians since the 2003 Iraq War and the 2014-2017 invasion by the Islamic State group. “Having directly experienced persecution, crimes against humanity and genocide because of our commitment to our faith, we are deeply grateful for the efforts of the administration to maintain an international focus on this issue.”
Syriac Catholic Patriarch Ignace Joseph III Younan told the Register he welcomed the “courage” President Trump showed in signing the order after visiting the Shrine of St. Pope John Paul II and hoped “there will be an effective follow-up” in the form of defending and preserving civil rights, creating jobs, promoting development and helping foster a true religious dialogue that they “dream of.”
In a June 5 statement, the patriarch said he also firmly hoped “effective humanitarian programs” announced in the executive order would “insure the survival of my community, as well as Christian minorities, in order to stay rooted in their ancestral homeland.”
Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah of Sokoto, a region of extensive persecution in Nigeria, said the executive order put the persecution of Christians and other religions “on the front burner” — something he viewed as a “welcome development especially in the face of the crippling secularism that is trying to push religious identity to the sidelines.”
Iraqi Syriac Catholic Bishop Yousif Habash, originally from Mosul and now at the Syriac Catholic Eparchy of Our Lady of Deliverance of Newark, said the order “is certainly very positive and worthy of consideration and appreciation.” Christians do not “wait for aid from far away to survive,” he stressed, but added that if such aid comes from “goodwill,” then it “certainly benefits Christians and serves them.”…
Patriarch Younan stressed the extent of the “horrific persecution” Syriac Catholics have faced over the past decade in Iraq and Syria — something he said he and Chaldean Catholic Patriarch Louis Sako of Baghdad told Vice President Mike Pence at a recent meeting. It is a “matter of survival,” he told the Register.
“We need effective solidarity from the U.S.A.,” which “should cherish religious freedom as a gift from God.” This needs to be “shown in deeds, not only words, avoiding ‘politically correct language’” that he said has “spread within Western politics, media and even within the Church.”
In his June 5 statement, Patriarch Younan asked President Trump to “help restore peace and reconciliation” to Syria and make it a priority to lift economic sanctions affecting the innocent. “Wherever religious freedom is guaranteed, sociopolitical freedoms will sooner or later follow,” he said….
Bishop Habash said what is “really very painful” is that Western governments “do not want to give importance to the Christian presence in the Middle East.” But in America, he said, “the pulse of Christianity is still alive and well,” and without Christianity, the world “could be a hell that is intolerable.”
This is why, he said, “evil wills fight America’s existence, the American spirit and its optimism, because America still believes that it is a nation under God.”
He added that if the U.S. wishes to “compensate for its mistakes that caused great losses to the Christians of Iraq, there is no other way and no other solution except with the support of Christians in the Middle East, especially in Iraq and Syria.”…
Michael says
what happens in the U.S. and the left goes nuts over it
around the world can only wish they had the same opportunity
the religion of peace is out to crush the world
think before comments are made
if you were in the shoes of the oppressed
Rob says
Let’s arrange a ‘Bishop Exchange’ programme. Gregory does 12m in the ME and a ME Bishop takes over his place in the US.
LB says
Agreed 100%. These fat priests sit in the safest place on Earth, preaching “holier than thou” leftist virtue signaling, while their fellow priests and coreligionists in Africa and Middle East are getting slaughtered by the dozens ON A DAILY BASIS!!
This is why I think Christianity is in the decline in the West. There are NO strong religious leaders anymore (I can think of only one and that’s Hungarian PM Victor Orban who has on multiple occasions mentioned the defense of Christianity against the muslim invasion, and he’s not even a priest!), only communists and spineless appeasers to islam remain in the clergy. Even if an odd priest dares to voice his opposition, he is instantly silenced and distanced from by his church and can consider himself lucky if he doesn’t get excommunicated.
What a sorry state of a once proud and noble religion… I’m not a Christian, but I’m heartbroken to see it like this. If there’s any trace left of old Christianity which stopped the muslims at Tours in 732 and again at Vienna in 1683, it can only be found in the believers themselves rather than in any church figure today.
eddie says
‘Wilton Gregory’s religion is not Christianity’
According to the greatest of twentieth-century theologians – Karl Barth, Christianity is not a religion but a revelation. Check the section of his CHURCH DOGMATICS entitled ‘The Revelation of God as the Abolition of Religion’
Barth argues that all the religions of the world, including liberal and evangelical Christianity, are forms of idolatry.
On this showing religion and the Christian gospel are enemies.
Barth’s prestige is enhanced because he refused to swear allegiance to Hitler in 1930s Germany and he formed the Confessing Church which stood against the Nazis. Most of these Christians perished in the death camps
Wellington says
“Barth’s prestige is enhanced because he refused to swear allegiance to Hitler in the 1930’s.”
Good for him but it doesn’t make him correct respecting his theological contentions. After all, many people opposed Hitler but were still wrong on a lot, for instance Marxists and those who thought the 18th Amendment to the American Constitution was a good idea.
gravenimage says
The witless “eddie” wrote:
‘Wilton Gregory’s religion is not Christianity’
According to the greatest of twentieth-century theologians – Karl Barth, Christianity is not a religion but a revelation. Check the section of his CHURCH DOGMATICS entitled ‘The Revelation of God as the Abolition of Religion’
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All Barth meant here is that Christianity is not simply *a* religion, but *the* religion–the only one as he saw it that was a true revelation from God.
And there is a long tradition in Protestantism of going so far as to reject an organized Church, or at the least to be critical of all established Churches.
The implication that any of this ergo means that he was fine with the murderous persecution of Christians is of course absurd.
More:
Barth argues that all the religions of the world, including liberal and evangelical Christianity, are forms of idolatry.
On this showing religion and the Christian gospel are enemies.
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See above.
More:
Barth’s prestige is enhanced because he refused to swear allegiance to Hitler in 1930s Germany and he formed the Confessing Church which stood against the Nazis. Most of these Christians perished in the death camps
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Indeed so. The implication that his brave opposition to Fascism somehow means that he would have been fine with the persecution of Christians is simply bizarre.
In fact, Barth did *far* more than simply refuse to swear allegiance to Hitler–he was largely responsible for the writing of the Barmen declaration, which rejected the influence of Nazism on German Christianity by arguing that the Church’s allegiance to the God of Jesus Christ should give it the impetus and resources to resist the influence of other lords, such as the German Führer. Barth mailed this declaration to Hitler personally.
Wellington says
Pope Francis heads the list of fools presently in the Catholic hierarchy, but American bishops—the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops—have done their “bit” to confirm that fools aplenty are now very much in charge of the Roman Catholic Church.
Seems right now the “weakest link” in the Roman Catholic Church comes from those in the West. Easily so, no? Well, per Catholic theology and Christian theology in general, God does indeed work in highly mysterious ways. Damn inscrutable is He.
Were I a devout, traditional Catholic, I could not help wonder, however, what the Hell God is up to. Ditto were I a devout, traditional Protestant because, God knows (such an appropriate expression considering the subject matter here, no?), many prominent, mainstream Protestants have recently been out to theological lunch as well.
Of course. as someone who is not religious at all and must consider the possibility that God is a legend (though all the while admiring most of the Judeo-Christian ethic which could, could I say, be an enlightened man-made ethical system replete with projection to a fictional deity), it is easier for someone like me to explain this idiocy by the Western Catholic hierarchy, but I think it more difficult, and I am sympathetic here, towards those Catholics and Christians in general who have retained their common sense, coupled with accurate knowledge of how iniquitous Islam truly is, and are all the while watching so many fellow Christians in the process of losing their collective mind. Kinda’ what has happened in the political realm to so many Western political parties like the Democratic Party here in America, the Liberal Party in Canada and the Labour Party in the UK.
Time for a Guinness to reflect on all of this and to be followed by a fine porter, both accompanied by something the Islamic world could have never created—a Beethoven symphony, probably the 7th. But I digress. My God, what a silly world we live in.
tim gallagher says
Good comments, Wellington. As someone who is a basic Christian, brought up as a Catholic, but being by inclination something of a hermit, and therefore not someone who goes to church, but definitely a believer in basics of Christianity, I just look at these Christians, who are stupid enough to call for us to show islam respect and to cave in to Muslims (since I know Islam loathes all non-Muslim religions), as ignorant fools on the issue of islam. They may even be quite wise on some other areas of knowledge, but, on Islam, they are idiots and I just ignore their idiotic views. I also think some Christians believe that they just have to be doormats and let any mob of evil people walk all over them. I think that that is being complicit in evil and is the last thing Christians should be. If I want a wise and informed view of Islam’s nature, from a Christian, I will listen to Robert Spencer (I’m pretty sure he is a Christian) and others like him, who have done the homework and bothered to study Islam and find out what this evil ideology is all about. I have to say that these Christian leaders, who are apologists for Islam, don’t seem all that different to many of our political leaders. So many of our politically correct leaders, Christian or not, seem to cave in to Islam all the time.
Wellington says
Thanks for your reply, tim gallagher.
As I and so many others have said, Christianity is not a suicide pact, nor is the American Constitution, nor, most expansively here, is Western Civilization.
There is no reason to “accommodate” Islam in the West. It is massively ungracious, an enemy of freedom, which Christianity and Judaism in their theological blueprints most certainly are not, and a prescription for the closing of the mind. And having read all of the 27 books of the New Testament (even that rather weird book, the last one, Revelations—man, you can read into that whatever you want to) and much of the Old Testament, the Bible blows away the Koran, which is turgid, mindlessly repetitive, full of venom, deplete of wisdom—and the abrogation nonsense in and or itself, no other examples necessary, clearly shows what a man-made construct it is, actually to the point of managing to be an unwitting parody of itself.
I am of the irreversible opinion that no informed Christian should have any respect for Islam (sympathy for many Muslims, yes, but respect for Mo’s creed, no way). Islam is an insult to Christianity (and Judaism too) and Christians realized this until the last half century or so when the self-immolation of the West began in the 1960’s, in part precisely because the West was so dominant in ideas and productive endeavors, including economic ones, that it established too much “leisure time” and this led to a bevy of silly ideas, including moronic self-hate being circulated, especially by that extra foolish group, intellectuals. As JFK put it, he had rarely ever met an intellectual “with both feet on the ground.”
Such “leisure time” over the past fifty years or so has not been well used in the West in the area of accurate and overall assessments of humanity (the continued existence of that wretched organization, the UN, serves as enough proof here). 2020 evinces this truth all the more, what with idiotic mayors and governors in America alone, never mind so many other political rubes in the rest of the West, making excuse after excuse for barbarism and anarchy. Per Polybius, civilization reaches a pinnacle and then has nowhere to go but down (for whatever stupid reason or reasons) and this cycle is repeated endlessly. I like to think Polybius was wrong. But I fear he was eminently correct.
Always good to read what you have to say. Take good care in an age which by the year is ever increasingly not looking good at all. Time for a change. A positive change. Sorely needed no doubt.
gravenimage says
Good exchange, Wellington and Tim.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the comment, Wellington, I always enjoy what you write here at Jihad Watch. You seem like an intelligent and well-informed person. Thanks for your comment, gravenimage. These are pretty strange times we are living in, what with all the recent upheaval, which sort of took off over the death of Floyd, but is obviously about far left types who want to destroy the fabric of our current societies. There have been copycat demos in Australia. Toppling all those statues and all that attempt to rewrite history does make me think of Pol Pot and his Year Zero bullshit, where he wanted to destroy Cambodian society and start all over again and build a hideous, pure Commie society. Of course, it’s different because his regime slaughtered millions. Some of the nonsense, such as making “Gone with the Wind” and the episode of “Fawlty Towers” disappear, seems completely insane to me. I guess I mainly watch conservative commentators out here in Australia and they also express very strongly that this stuff is nuts. I suppose it is the result of the march of the left through all the institutions, the universities and schools, where they fill young people’s minds with utter crap, etc. I doubt whether large numbers of people have the time of day for the point of view or the actions of these far left people. I certainly hope that is the truth. What you said about the imbecility of some supposed “intellectuals” seems to me to be true. I like that quote that is supposed to have come from George Orwell about how some ideas are so stupid that they only appeal to the intellectuals. I often can’t comprehend some of the things such people think are worth being bothered about. They get so worked up about things that I see as very minor issues ( for me, an example is the amazing amount of attention this transgenderism issue gets lately). It is definitely a weird and somewhat alarming world in recent times. I hope the more sensible people soon say, enough of this bullshit, and fight back.
gravenimage says
Yes–this stuff is insane, Tim.
tim gallagher says
gravenimage, I just hope that most of this bizarre stuff that we have seen lately (the statues, the TV shows and movies, etc) is seen as being insane by most people. I think it is. However, I do suspect that more and more people do seem to accept this far left view of things, which is a bad trend. It seems to creeping up on our societies more and more. I have mentioned the TV program out here called “Outsiders” ( named because its three hosts do not share the cosy leftie media “insiders” type view of things). They tear into this stuff and with plenty of humour. They have a segment called “Whackydemia” and another “leftie lunacy”. One of the hosts, Rowan Dean, gave a bit of a rallying call type speech, fired up and a bit like a football coach, saying, come on, don’t let this cultural Marxist rubbish succeed, don’t let it happen, don’t accept it, we have to fight back, etc. It made me think that they are getting a little concerned about this trend we are seeing lately. By the way, that story you tell about your friend who covered her ears and wouldn’t listen to you saying anything bad about islam intrigues me. What type of person is she? It is such a weird reaction. As I said, I have fairly left (not far left loonies) family and friends. But none of them has ever covered their ears. They tend to just think, oh, well, Tim’s a nice enough guy most of the time, but, when it comes to politics, he’s a bit odd, a bit off on another planet, a few bats in the belfry. I suppose I think the same about them and their view of things. I have never had anyone cover their ears though. It’s a funny image.
gravenimage says
tim gallagher wrote:
By the way, that story you tell about your friend who covered her ears and wouldn’t listen to you saying anything bad about islam intrigues me. What type of person is she? It is such a weird reaction. As I said, I have fairly left (not far left loonies) family and friends. But none of them has ever covered their ears…
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Hi, Tim. She was the friend of a friend–I did not know her that well. I met her at a party my friend held. I knew she was a teacher, although I am not sure at what level. She seemed like a very sweet person, as well as intelligent and well informed, at least in a basic way.
I am generally pretty apolitical at parties. But she mentioned some stupidity about the ‘poor Palestinians’, and I gently mentioned that both Hamas and Fatah have the destruction of Israel in their charters. There was some discussion, and one of the other guests came up with the predictable denial about how this may be so, but that has nothing to do with Islam.
I noted that Hamas is the “Party of Allah”, and that the Qur’an, Hadith, and Sira are full of murderous antisemitism, that the “Prophet” Muhammed was a murderous antisemite, and quoted the genocidal Hadith where in the ‘last days’ Muslims believe that rocks and trees will cry out that there is a Jew hiding behind them, and to come and kill them.
It is at this point that she literally put her hands over her ears, after becoming increasingly upset. It would have been comical if her distress at hearing something bad about Islam was not so obviously profound. I noted that no one had to take my word for it, and everyone could look it up for themselves.
Hers was the most extreme reaction, but everyone seemed appalled–I’m not sure if they were more troubled that this is what Islam says–at least no one seemed to doubt me–or were more upset that I dared mention it. By the way, both my friend and this woman and about half the guests were Jewish, the other half Gentile. All seemed intent on whitewashing Islam.
At this point, things got very quiet. Finally, someone changed the subject, and everybody seemed very grateful. We talked about gardening in San Francisco’s foggier neighborhoods, where my friend lives, about the classes he was teaching at City College, about his girlfriend’s and my artwork, and about the weather. Jihad did not come up again, and I did not push it.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for that information, gravenimage. Yes, it is that wilful ignorance that you mention quite often. People just won’t face up to unpleasant, unpalatable truths. I found the image of a person actually covering their ears ( I could imagine the person also loudly chanting la-la-la-la or something so as not to hear the unacceptable truth being told) quite funny. I suppose ignoring unpleasant truths makes life easier and more enjoyable for a while, but the problem (such as the problems Muslims bring as their numbers in a society increase) then just gets bigger and bigger and then we are in really big trouble. I tend to stay off politics at dinner parties and that type of event. I must say I do get sick of the bad news we often get and give it a miss for a while. I went to San Francisco way back in 1982 when I was travelling around Europe and the USA for 6 months or so. One of my sisters was working there in San Francisco for the Australian Government at the time, so I stayed with her in one of those very beautiful houses they have there. I think they were called Victorian houses, those timber houses there. It is a beautiful city but the weather was certainly foggy, and, for someone from Sydney, it was cold as well. Although we get plenty of skin cancer here in Australia, I have had three basal cell cancers cut out so far, I have to say that I love the cloudless blue sky and bright sunshine we very often get here, which raises my spirits. There are a lot of places with cloudy weather and darker light that I would have trouble surviving in. Too depressing for me.
Rufolino says
“What the hell is God up to ?” ?
It seems God has little to do with what is happening in the Church.
The reason being, the Catholic Church is doing it to itself.
If God has a loving heart that grieves with mankind (which by many accounts, and by the example of Jesus, he certainly has) then he sure is grieving now at what the Church is doing to itself.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the comments, Rufolino and James. Rufolino, there’s a variety of views amongst Church leaders and members. I think some Christians do have the view that they have to just turn the other cheek all the time (which, of course, Jesus did say to do) and so they think that all that being a Christian means is just being endlessly nice to people. They think that they should be a doormat and let Muslims (who hate Christianity) tread all over them. I’m only guessing, but I think that that is the mentality of many of these Church leaders. I think they should call out evil, and I think Islam is evil, for what it is. Some Church leaders do so, but many of the others are terribly weak and very ignorant about Islam’s nature. As I said up above, I ignore the Church leaders who seem to know nothing about Islam. Robert Spencer, and some others, is the type of Christian I listen to when it comes to Islam.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
Agree with gravenimage, excellent exchange with tim – very accurate and informative.
On a lighter note, the genius of Beethoven’s Symphony No 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4788Tmz9Zo
Wellington says
Thanks so much, James. My favorite of all nine. What a genius. Will listen to it again this evening.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link. James.
mortimer says
The church in Nigeria and Iraq are among the MOST persecuted churches … persecuted by fanatical MUSLIMS.
Western Leftists are BLIND to the thousands killed every year.
gravenimage says
All too true, Mortimer.
Vladimir says
True Christians support President Trump. For one thing, it would have been easy for him to not sign an executive order on religious freedom in a very contentious election year, but he did, and he did it because he felt it was the right thing to do. President Trump isn’t perfect, and like all earthly rulers should be prayed for, but he’s one of those leaders standing athwart a rising tide of Anarchy, of lawlessness and insanity, in the West. Is he aware of the Islamic threat? Not sure, but he’s still better than those opposing him who do know the Islamic threat and are actively allied to It.
gravenimage says
+1
Clive Delmonte says
Absolutely right, Mortimer. I wish there was a prize we could award to you. Perhaps the truth will have to stand as prize enough.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
gravenimage says
As US bishop excoriates Trump, bishops in Middle East and Nigeria applaud his executive order on religious freedom
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The latter have experienced murderous persecution–the witless Archbishop Wilton Gregory can only sneer at the idea that this happens.
Tony Naim says
President Trump’s Order is way passed due, but it is better late than never. That order strikes at the heart of Dhimmitude. All Islamic states must be held accountable to it, or else.
What are these bastards afraid of ? Other than freeing their own people to allow them to think on their own.
Each and every education department in all Arab states must show proof of a balanced curriculum
To demonstrate without any doubt they are exposing their people to the teachings of a wide variety of religions, including Christianity and Judaism in a fair and truthful way.
That is the new job description of every cultural attaché at each US embassy in the MENA area .
PaulH says
Agreed. I am no fan of Trump, but he has definitely done the right thing here.
tgusa says
“baffling and reprehensible” that the shrine would allow itself to be “so egregiously misused and manipulated.”
If President Trump were a Roman Catholic he could just go to the nearest confessional and five minutes later all would be forgiven, right Bishop Gregory? The Catholic hierarchy in the west have been pretty much absent defending Christians around the world. Stay in your lane know your mission (or take a refresher course) and do your job Bishop Gregory.
Jayell says
Jesus said ‘When two or three are gathered together in my name, I will grant your requests’. Which is actually a bit obvious, since when two or three are gathered together for any specific reason at all, things might tend to start happening anyway. What a shame that Jesus didn’t warn ‘When two or three are gathered together, you start getting politics’, because that is what’s been happening ever since the first churches began, and they had to be firmly told off by St.Paul for it. Didn’t do much good, did it?. The problem comes when the Organisation becomes more important than the Message, then the hierarchy becomes far too self-important for its own good – politics takes over and to hell with anything else. Then you just have to admit that the Organisation simply isn’t fir for purpose anymore. So if you have nay respect for Jesus Christ, just ignore the churches.
Jayell says
Sorry. ‘Nay respect for Jesus Christ’ should be ‘ANY respect for Jesus Christ”.
Shovington says
Won’t people be so surprised when they look back on this nano moment in time, and realize that they are so ridiculously far from being oppressed victims. The moaning and constant complaining would simply enrage a post WW2 public, or Civil Rights era protesters. They’d think it was disgusting, and frankly it’s just embarrassing that this is what young people think is important today. There’s a world outside these borders people, and being offended isn’t going to solve world hunger, or save tropical reefs. The human species is lost without a paddle , up a well known creek.
Patriotliz says
I’m not surprised by any attacks by any Leftist “Christian” leaders in the West. The Pope is an anti-American communist.
What I’m leery of is any non-West Christian leader blaming the U.S. for the plight of Christians in Muslim dominated countries. That makes me uncomfortable. Reminds me of the Muslim ingrates in Iraq for whom American soldiers sacrificed their lives to “liberate” from their more evil Muslim leader.
Iraqi Syriac Catholic Bishop Yousif Habash, originally from Mosul said ” if the U.S. wishes to “compensate for its mistakes that caused great losses to the Christians of Iraq…”. What does he mean by that? Is America responsible for the deaths of Iraqi Christians and we should pay “reparations?” I agree that the Iraq war was a mistake, but does he blame the US for the death of Christians? After the death of Saddam Hussein, Muslims ran amuck and killed more Christians which is their duty to do according to their ideology,…was that the “mistake” of the U.S. that he’s referring to?
Also “Patriarch Younan asked President Trump to ‘help restore peace and reconciliation’ to Syria and make it a priority to lift economic sanctions affecting the innocent.” So this patriarch thinks he can dictate our US policy to Syria.
I’m not certain that if we went to war against any Muslim country for the primary purpose of liberating Christians that the Christians would even appreciate it. Logistically it seems clear that there’s little that can be done militarily or with charitable contributions or with economic sanctions against an evil empire to protect the “innocents” in Muslim dominated areas.
All that Christians can do is to escape Muslim countries and come to countries where Muslims or Commies aren’t in control. That’s becoming increasingly difficult to do with the Islamization of Europe in alliance with the Globalist Leftists who seek to destroy Western Civilization and Christianity. America is undergoing that same Leftist-Islamic transformation. The Free World continues to shrink.
Kilauea says
If the Bishop is attacking the president, this is political speech. Take his church’s tax free status if he continues to spew political speech.