“At a Friday, June 5, 2020 sermon at the Islamic Association of Raleigh, NC, Imam Oliver S. Muhammad said that the root of injustice and of white supremacy is the image of a white Jesus, which he said is a subliminal message that causes white supremacists to believe that they are better than everybody else.”
Yet supremacism is the root of Islamic doctrine, and does not appear in Christian doctrine. While the imam Muhammad slams a distorted view of Christianity, the Qur’an slams all infidels (including Christians) as inferiors, and Christian persecution by Muslims is at genocidal proportions.
“Raleigh N.C. Imam Oliver S. Muhammad: The Image Of A White Jesus Is A Subliminal Message That Feeds White Supremacy, Injustice All Over The World”, MEMRI, June 5, 2020:
At a Friday, June 5, 2020 sermon at the Islamic Association of Raleigh, NC, Imam Oliver S. Muhammad said that the root of injustice and of white supremacy is the image of a white Jesus, which he said is a subliminal message that causes white supremacists to believe that they are better than everybody else. He said that the effect of this image can be seen in the context of economic oppression, slavery, and colonization. He then stated that as long as this image of Jesus continues to exist, white supremacists will have something that feeds their sense of superiority. The Islamic Association of Raleigh is a regular participant in local interfaith events.
Oliver S. Muhammad: “We have to understand the root of the injustices that we see in this world.”
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“White supremacy has its roots in – what? – in the misrepresentation of Allah, in this picture they have all around the world, on every continent that they say is ‘issa as issa salam.’ It’s not him, but it’s the image of a white person. And the white supremacist thinkers, they say ‘well, that’s my image, so it makes me better than everybody because that’s the most Supreme Being.'”
[…]
“Whether it is economic oppression or slavery, whether it is politics, whether it is colonization, wherever this image is projected, you can see that those societies, or the people that come under that influence, are subject. They have been influenced by this imagery of white supremacists. It’s a subliminal message.”…
Templer says
!more Islamic lies muslims being the biggest liners and races it kill the jew kill the chirstain kill the Hindu kill anyone that does not Belvice in pedo mo and the unholy bs Koran this cult wants wipeing off the face off the earth Jesus was a Jew and they are whit wrigh
Ferd III says
Mein Koran the book of Fascist racism goes to great lengths to describe Adolf Muhammad as ….a White man….who owned Black Slaves and a Sex Harem (blacks and whites).
The Imam just proves that the Stupid in Pisslam just keeps on giving.
Sabri S. says
considering that Jesus, or his correct name Yashua, was a black male hebrew that spoke aramaic and hebrew, he probably has a point. That photo that infidels worship and call Jesus is actually Cesare Borgia, a relative of the pope at that time. If you believe that satanic talmud, it is a picture of the roman soldier Pantera, who they also insinuate is the biological father of Jesus. Christianity has been so distorted by 1) the romans, 2) the popes at the council of nicea in 325, and 3) dumb colonized idiots who think that Jesus christ was actually god in human flesh. What blasphemous gargage from a degenerate people. And don’t even get me started on the dumb blacks, who I have seen in new york that have a picture of this idiot in their homes and churches. Talk about being colonized by the colonizer times ten. The people of judea in the times of jesus, were people of color NOT europeans. Why do you think the roman empire hated him so much? Allah is the only one and true God. And to all the christian “saved” who worship this prophet. Jesus couldn’ t save himself. Do you think he could save you. Stop with the Jesus is God/Lord nonsense. He was a black man who railed against the synogauge of satan, who are now the askenazi jews occupying Palestine. Learn the truth and islam will set you free!
commonsense says
I’ll just comment on one of your claims, as I refuse to waste time responding to the rest of your insane, ignorant claptrap. The first surviving photographic portrait is a daguerreotype dating from 1840. A photo of Cesare Borgia? Hilarious. Drop dead.
Darkness is coming says
Your shitty islam is the biggest degenerate ideology on the earth. Who the fuck are you to call Christians as degenerate you pedophile muhammad worshiper, ISIL lover terrorist motherfucker !
Paweł says
Are you done barking? Begone heretic.
mortimer says
Dear S.S. … you should discuss your delusional ideas with a compassionate psychoanalyst.
S.S., Islam is being historically deconstructed.
Wellington says
Sabris S. What is your evidence for your claim that Jesus “was a black male hebrew?”
David says
Muhammad was a white man. therefore he was a White Supremacist. End of….
gravenimage says
More crap from Sabri S.:
considering that Jesus, or his correct name Yashua, was a black male hebrew that spoke aramaic and hebrew, he probably has a point.
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Sabri S. has tried this tripe here before–that “real” Jews are “Black”. Never mind that the only Black Jews are Ethiopian, and they were a small minority sect.
As for those who call themselves “Black Hebrews”, they are African-Americans who have even less to do with Judaism than Black Muslims have to do with orthodox Islam.
Of course, in reality Levantine Jews are generally olive-skinned.
So what is Sabri S. trying to do here? Just claim that any Jews who are not African American are not real Jews, and hence have no right to live in Israel, which his violent coreligionists have claimed for Islam.
Never mind that this makes no historical or logical sense.
Yet more:
That photo that infidels worship and call Jesus is actually Cesare Borgia, a relative of the pope at that time.
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Lots of idiocy in this one sentence.
Of course, there are no photographs of Jesus, nor are there photographs of Cesare Borgia–both lived long before the invention of the camera. Well, we already know that Sabri S. understands *nothing* about history, so I suppose this should not surprise. It is certainly very sad, though.
Then, Christians do not worship photos, nor images of any kind. Since orthodox Muslims violently reject images, they assume that non-Muslims “worship” them. More ignorance.
Finally, is Sabri S. too witless to realize that images of Christ *much* predate Cesare Borgia, who was not born until 1475 AD? Does he think that Christianity is no older than this? Again, his ignorance of history is just appalling.
Then, does he really believe that everyone who has long hair and a beard is Jesus? In that case, a large percentage of young men in the late ’60s and early ’70s must have been Jesus as well…
More:
If you believe that satanic talmud, it is a picture of the roman soldier Pantera, who they also insinuate is the biological father of Jesus.
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Well, this is even more ludicrous. Cesare Borgia was *not* a Roman soldier, nor is he mentioned in the Talmud. No one has ever suggested that he was a Roman soldier named Pantera. He is Roman only in the sense that he was born in the city of Rome, but he was not an ancient Roman. Far from being Jesus’ father, he was born over 1400 years after Jesus lived.
As for the claims about Pantera, these predate the Talmud. This claim was first made by the Greek philosopher Celsus in the 2nd century AD. Serious scholars do not give this claim credence.
By the way, Muslims do not believe this about “Isa” either–so why is Sabri S. citing it? Just to try to discredit Christianity, and in a particularly ham-fisted manner.
More:
Christianity has been so distorted by 1) the romans, 2) the popes at the council of nicea in 325, and 3) dumb colonized idiots who think that Jesus christ was actually god in human flesh. What blasphemous gargage (sic) from a degenerate people.
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This is standard Islam–the claim that Judaism and Christianity were at some unspecified time just as savage as Islam, until Jews and Christians “corrupted” their scripture with things like the Golden Rule. ‘Treating others as you would have others treat you’? How un-Islamic is that? Of course he considers this sort of thing–as well as a loving God, to be “degenerate”.
More:
And don’t even get me started on the dumb blacks, who I have seen in new york that have a picture of this idiot in their homes and churches. Talk about being colonized by the colonizer times ten. The people of judea in the times of jesus, were people of color NOT europeans.
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Of course Sabri S. despises Black people, just like the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed who called them “raisin heads”. And this is just hilarious–has Sabri S. forgotten that he just claimed that all Jews–including Jesus–are actually Black? It seems he can’t even keep his claptrap straight–this should not surprise.
But, of course, he would be happy if they all “reverted” to Islam–despite Islam keeping slaves–mostly Black Africans–to this very day. Note that Sabri S. has *never* said anything critical of his thug coreligionists enslaving victims.
More:
Why do you think the roman empire hated him so much? Allah is the only one and true God. And to all the christian “saved” who worship this prophet. Jesus couldn’ t save himself. Do you think he could save you. Stop with the Jesus is God/Lord nonsense. He was a black man who railed against the synogauge of satan, who are now the askenazi jews occupying Palestine. Learn the truth and islam will set you free!
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What is Sabri S. trying to say here? That the Roman Empire hated Jesus–why? Because he was supposedly Black? Because he was supposedly fathered by a Roman soldier? Actually, the Roman Empire was not particularly racist–certainly not in the modern sense, although they did generally consider Romans superior–but this was primarily cultural rather than racial. And there were many fathered by Roman soldiers where they were stationed, so this seems odd. Or is he saying that the Roman Empire hated “Allah”? Who knows? He is not very clear here. This from someone who adheres to a creed that rejects reason should not surpise.
Of course, there is no reference to the “synagogue of satan” per se in Islam–so he is just using this Biblical reference as a blanket condemnation of Jews–which it was not.
And the idea that embracing the creed of a caravan-raider, pedophile, kidnapper, rapist, war-lord, and mass murderer will “set you free” is only true if you are one of the above and seek justification for these atrocities. *Ugh*.
Wellington says
Fine, extensive repudiation, gravenimage, of Sabri S’s ludicrous ramblings, though it will be lost on someone like Sabri S. who regularly confirms the maxim that a little knowledge is a bad thing.
Actually, I don’t think that Sabri S. has a “little knowledge.” It’s something even less than this. Approaching nothing.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Wellington. And as you know I am not really aiming my refutation at Sabri S., who is pretty hopeless, but at any interested Infidels reading here.
Western Canadian says
Is there ANY subject, that low grade muslims cannot be counted on, to be ignorant and stupid about? Sadly, the answer is known, and the answer is no.
John says
What a bloody cheek, who’s killing more coloured people than the whites ever did and that is Islam,who think that there religion is better than everybody else’s, and Mohammed is s lot worse than a white Jesus, Mohammed epileptic pedo, with a hate for women and anybody who think different, who left two waring primitive tribes in charge and believe in slavery, Islam would set the whole world back a 1.000yrs if they where in control. A spreading cancer.!!!
revereridesagain says
Not my problem. I visualize my imaginary heroes as I prefer, I expect others do the same.
Ferd III says
like Chuckie Darwin – isn’t he also a White Racist? Eugenicist ? Scales to Feathers, Shyte happens, Nothing to Everything etc etc. Blah blah blah.
gravenimage says
No, Darwin was not a eugenicist. But some tools claim that he was.
Michael Copeland says
What is it that those placards say?
Is it “White Supremacy Will Dominate”?
No? Thought not.
andrew mckendrick says
White supremacist ,you mean like Muhammad?
Keys says
Exactly, andrew mckendrick !
For those who do not know what andrew means:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZxH4QYLRQY
Patriotliz says
Muhammad said Satan was a black man.
https://youtu.be/UNy6ml7bnYI
David says
Yes that guy!
CES says
Hey dummy, read your Quran. Prophet Mohammad was a white slave trader and pedophile who despised black people. He even “revelation” the Kaaba will be destroyed by a black person.
Emilie Green says
Hmmmm,
Muhammad The White Prophet with Black Slaves David Wood,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQyr8aGbyps
wpm says
So religion founded by a proud white slaver (enslaving both white and black people) Mohammad who used violence,terrorism ,anti-Semitic,Anti Christian,anti-Hindu, anti anything not in Islam, a Imam a preacher for Islam is saying that Christians promoted slavery because Jesus was white(him being Jewish is the biggest sin in Islam)?Jesus who never own slaves(at a time when slave owning was common and acceptable) never preached violence against unbelievers(non-Jews at that time) ,never preached violence or terrorism ,or forced conversion to his beliefs , his great” sin ” our great “sin” is we are white and Christian?Not much projection there?Not to mention the millions of black Africans Christians who suffer at the hands of Jihad in Africa today ,or the millions of black Africans that were capture and shipped off to the middle east for over a thousand years.The common practice of castrating black male captive slaves by Islamic Jihadist before shipping them off to the Islamic world.
Phil Copson says
A “subliminal message” that exists in his own imagination is somehow a bigger problem than the blunt message of outright islamic supremacy, racism and misogyny that he proclaims several times every day ?
Oliver S Muhammad is truly possessed of that “weapons-grade stupidity” that makes islam a force to resisted at all costs.
A Gnostic Agnostic says
House of Islam is scapegoating their own supremacism onto Jesus/white people.
Religion of Islam = scapegoat the crimes/nature of the House of Islam onto others.
All they do scapegoat all of their own pathologies onto others because Muslims can not take responsibility for their own actions without blaming whoever they hate.
CogitoErgoSum says
Here we have another man who, like the Pope, proves he is not interested in spiritual matters. He is thinking only in terms of the body and not of the spirit. If you want to think of Jesus as looking a certain way, that’s fine because when you see Jesus after you die Jesus will appear to you looking just the way you always imagined He would look. Anyone else you once knew in this life will look the way you remember them best also. When you meet the spirits of the ones who were your parents on this Earth they will look the way you remember them best and when you look upon the spirits of the those who were your children upon this Earth they will look the way you remember them best. The rules of this world do not apply in Christ’s kingdom. I am certain of that.
So if you want to think of Jesus as being black, brown yellow or red, you can. Thinking of Him as being white is okay too. I am sure of that.
Here is a nice song from James Taylor about children and Jesus. It may be a bit too sweet for some but sometimes the little child in me likes things that are a bit too sweet. Anyway didn’t Jesus tell us to become as children if we are to see the kingdom of Heaven? See Luke 18:17:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR5vupwpRJc
Mo says
“So if you want to think of Jesus as being black, brown yellow or red, you can. Thinking of Him as being white is okay too. I am sure of that.”
This is incorrect. Jesus was Jewish. One does not need to be a Christian or accept the supernatural claims about him just to acknowledge that he existed in history. And, as such, he was born in a particular place, at a particular time, and had a particular background.
It’s just history. And history is important. (As we watch history being destroyed all around us right now.)
keith O says
Mo,
I reckon your pretty much spot on with that.
Simple facts. Jesus was a Jew and as such would have had the classic “middle eastern appearance”.
The paintings of him as white is simply the interpretations of him by a painter who had no idea what he looked like. So anyone stating that his being white used by white supremacists is clutching at anything to distort the truth.
commonsense says
I’m inclined to respectfully disagree, keith O. Many of the European master painters from the late Gothic and Renaissance periods likely saw Jews in their respective countries but de-Judaized Jesus, depicting him as a gentile, while painting other Jews who opposed Jesus or who were essentially New Testament extras as having non-European or Semitic features and wearing non-European clothing. Rembrandt was a notable exception in his religio-historic output. The Virgin, Mary Magdalene, the infant Jesus, even the angels, were virtually always painted without what we (or certainly I) would recognize as Jewish features. I have never seen a Renaissance painting of the infant Jesus, nearly always naked, being depicted as circumsized, and in Michelangelo’s Last Supper, a Passover seder (did he know this? I suspect he did, and certainly the Church authorities did), the bread at the table is leavened. I’m of the opinion that this nearly universal de-Judaization, not only of Jesus but also New Testament figures, was the artists’ way of conveying their belief in the so-called New Covenant, a replacement theology which delegitimatizes Jews because, as having rejected Jesus, they are denied Salvation. I may be incorrect, but I think my argument does have merit. I should attempt to search for research papers on this subject and confess that I am remiss in not doing so, but my free time is limited.
Richard says
Major correction: The iconic mural of The Last Supper was painted by da Vinci, not Michelangelo. Color my face red. And while I stand by my assertion that the Infant Jesus was frequently depicted as uncircumcised, there were not a few Renaissance paintings portraying the circumcision of Jesus.
commonsense says
This may be a repost, as I sent it a while ago but did not yet see it here.
Correction: The iconic mural of The Last Supper was painted by da Vinci, not Michelangelo. Color my face red. Also, while I still hold that the infant Jesus is usually depicted as uncircumcised, there are quite a few Renaissance paintings whose theme is the infant Jesus’s circumcision.
Lilith Wept says
And for the things you are “certain” of, I woukd respectfully suggest that you re read the Word of God……Becauss if those things aren’t contained in the Word, then we don’t know …..
And God cautions us against adding or subtracting to His Word.
I say this because there are too many instances of people making God and Jesus into what they want Him to be, (someone who allows things that Gods Word clearly tells us are sins, a “Modern Jesus” who,is more comfortable and easier to follow and obey than the real Jesus ) )…….rather than who the Word says he is. But God ever changes.
The physical appearance of a person aren’t important at all, it’s what a person believes and if they live according to Gods commands.
If Jesus comes back to us in the Indy that he had when he aswmded ro heaven , then he will look like a middle eastern Jewish man.
CogitoErgoSum says
Explain to me why people who knew Jesus before His death did not recognize Him after His resurrection until they had spoken with Him for a while? I believe this was because the way a person sees Jesus depends upon the way a person thinks and I think Jesus knows what each of thinks and those who do not understand this are still thinking in terms of the body and not of the spirit.
Billy Chickens says
Guess he never saw a picture of the Black Madonna. Or Our Lady of China. Or Our Lady of Guadalupe. Or any other thousands of images of the Blessed Mother and Our Lord as a baby where their skin is not white. He only has seen the white protestant version of Jesus alone.
Islam is the most racist entity on the planet. During the Armenian genocide Islamic soldiers would gouge out the eyes of CHILDREN if they were BLUE. Talk about RACIST! Blacks are especially hated by Islam, especially Christian blacks. Muslims are busy killing Christian blacks right this moment in Africa.
Kepha says
I’ve run into blonde Turks and swarthy Armenians.
Dave from San Antonio says
Given the history and ideology of islam…I don’t believe anything an imam would say. Just something to add…according to the qur’an Jesus will be the One to defeat satan…’not’ mohammed. I read the qur’an to know my enemy, so-to-speak, just like T. Jefferson did.
Billy Chickens says
The Muslim Jesus – according to Islam – will come back as a Jihad warrior to kill every Christian, Jew and non-Muslim on the planet….because we are all devils, infidels and therefore Satan….so says Lucifer, the originator of the Koran in the cave at Hira as he dictated every word of his unholy book to Mohammad who thought “Gabriel” was really St Gabriel the Archangel. “Gabriel” was Satan disguised as “Gabriel’.
FYI says
And here is the muslim Jesus in the koran..
“He spake!Lo!I am the slave of allah.he hath given me the scripture and hath appointed me a prophet”
koran 19 {MARYAM} v 30
dawa folk insist that this is Jesus {so as to fool gullible Christians}.
If you look at the context you will see it is in fact a TALKING INFANT in a crib {koran 19:22-30} especially given the previous line in koran 19:29: “they said:how can we talk to one who is the cradle,a little boy”
Yes,how do you talk to a baby?Luckily,it speaks like an adult.
Bible scholars will be astonished to know that,according to the koran..
1.Jesus was actually a muslim who spoke Arabic and despite being an infant in a crib could speak like an adult
2.Jesus somehow had the scripture,the Gospel {…as an infant whilst in the crib…}
In koran 5:46 allah says “WE bestowed on {Jesus} the Gospel” but of course the Gospel came AFTER the time of Jesus didn’t it?
But then allah insists Christians believe MARY is in the Christian Trinity{a polytheism of muslim “jesus”,MARY and allah;3 separate gods}
koran 5:116
If allah was God{YHWH} don’t you think allah would at least understand that Christians are NOT polytheists,Jesus is Jewish{John 4 v22:allah even confirms the Gospel koran 3:3}and Mary is not in the Trinity?
James Lincoln says
Funny I never heard of Andy Taylor, back in the early 1960s, mentioning the “Islamic Association of Raleigh, NC” when he went to visit Barney at his new job.
And no mosques in Mayberry – just the “Church in the Wildwood”.
I guess times have changed…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIcyRWlJHHY
Kepha says
Speaking as a spiritual heir of the Puritans, I suppose I sympathize to a point with his objection to supposed pictures of Jesus. We’re given no physical description of Jesus in the Bible except in Isaiah 53 where it says, “He had no form or comeliness” and in Revelation 1, where John’s vision of the risen and glorified Christ caused him to fall at his feet as if dead; not exactly something that encourages picture-making.
Nonetheless, the nutshell picture of African-American Islam, whether NOI or orthodox, is the hustler Malcolm X convincing a borderline retarded piugilist to drop the name of an abolitionist who walked the talk to adopt that of a freckle-faced, red-haired, long-nosed Albanian mercenary who seized Egypt from his nominal Ottoman masters partly in order to gain control of the lucrative slave trade out of the Sudan. It frankly saddens me no end.
Wellington says
You must mean, Kepha, the original Mohammed Ali.
Kepha says
I mean Cassius Clay taking the name Muhammad Ali–after the Albanian who probably called himself Mehmet Ali.
Wellington says
Understood, though I have seen this 19th-century figure in some texts referred to as Mohammed Ali or Muhammad Ali. Whatever.
Steve B says
Jurairi reported: I said to Abu Tufail: Did you see Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)? He said: Yes, he had a white handsome face. Muslim b. Hajjaj said: Abu Tufail who died in 100 Hijra was the last of the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him).
Sahih Muslim 30:5777, See Also Sahih Muslim 30:5786
Steve B says
Narrated Isma’il bin Abi Khalid: I heard Abii Juhaifa saying, “I saw the Prophet, and Al-Hasan bin ‘Ali resembled him.” I said to Abu- Juhaifa, “Describe him for me.” He said, “He was white and his beard was black with some white hair. He promised to give us 13 young she-camels, but he expired before we could get them.”
Sahih Bukhari 4:56:744
Steve B says
Narrated Isma’il bin Abi Khalid: I heard Abii Juhaifa saying, “I saw the Prophet, and Al-Hasan bin ‘Ali resembled him.” I said to Abu- Juhaifa, “Describe him for me.” He said, “He was white and his beard was black with some white hair. He promised to give us 13 young she-camels, but he expired before we could get them.”
Sahih Bukhari 4:56:744
tim gallagher says
I think that there is a hell of a lot of anti-white racism around these days. We keep hearing about the terrible racism directed at blacks, etc, but I think there is definitely a lot of extremely hate filled invective hurled at white people and it doesn’t seem to count from the mainstream media’s point of view. This Muslim maggot’s rubbish seems to me to to be just another example of this hatred towards white people. I’m getting pretty sick of all this anti-white racism, which is surely just as evil as any other type of racism. Oh, but I suppose we are all supposed to be living wonderful lives full of the supposed white man’s privilege. I believe that western civilisation, mostly achieved by white people, has been a magnificent achievement and I think people like this imam probably cannot stand seeing that achievement and are probably extremely envious of it and would just love to destroy it.
Lilith Wept says
Oh the PC view is black People can not be racist towards whites. Because apparently blacks have been and are so horribly mistreated by whites that any perceived racism by blacks towards whites is an attempt to,equalize the sitiatiin , or it is paying back whites for their institutionalized racism towards people,of color.
tgusa says
Whites as defined by modern standards are only ten percent of the worlds population. Divide that in half between males and females and you end up with roughly five percent of each. For such a small minority in the world we sure are frighteningly scary to them.
If you want to experience racism just take a stroll through the rest of the world before judging the USA first.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Tim and Lilith.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the comment, Lilith Wept and gravenimage. I’m sure that must be the way we are all meant to see things, Lilith Wept. I’m getting pretty sick of all this whingeing and whining and trying to put the blame for problems, which may be created by the irresponsible lifestyles of many black people themselves, onto white people. It often seems to me that some people stuff their lives up and then claim that someone else is to blame and want never ending welfare handouts to try to even things up. I also get sick of this ridiculous notion that all whites are living wonderful lives because they have some kind of universal privilege because their skin is white. Utter bullshit and many white people have tough lives. I think I just take people as I find them and just this morning I visited my doctor, who is from India, and she is as kind hearted and pleasant a person as you could meet anywhere, (the colour of any person’s skin doesn’t matter to me) but I am certainly sick of seeing these recent demonstrations about how terrible black lives are here in Australia (despite endless billions of dollars of welfare and yet the situation never seems to improve) and also what I see of those riots in the UK and in the USA. I believe some of those people should probably just concentrate on getting their own lives in order instead of always blaming other people, usually the horrible white man of course, for their problems. There’s plenty of hate filled anti-white racism in evidence. It’s as nasty as any other brand of racism. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s how I feel about this carry on lately. Also, I find that seeing some black people in the USA destroying their own neighbourhoods, the shops, etc, is insane. Talk about shooting themselves in the foot.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the comments, James and Wellington. I think that a lot of what you talk about in the USA is also happening in Australia. Well, there used to be a saying out here that whatever happens in the USA (maybe the UK as well) will be out here in Australia within 5 or 10 years. It would be quicker now. The whole endlessly politically correct outlook is pretty universal these days. What happened to you, James, and to your wife, Wellington, would be bloody annoying. Nothing has happened to me personally, but I do get annoyed about this big guilt trip that many people seem to be trying to put on all white people, who are apparently all supposed be living wonderful lives of privilege. I guess I just don’t buy it. To me, It doesn’t seem to be the truth
gravenimage says
Good posts, Tim.
James Lincoln says
tim,
Universities, businesses, nonprofits, have or will soon have “Diversity and Inclusion Officers”.
I am a white male professional who falls under no “protected” status. I was recently denied a six-figure board position on a Fortune 500 company that was filled by a female African-American.
I showed “her CV versus my CV” to several very highly educated “disinterested” people, leaving out ANY identifiers. All of them favored me for the position.
There is no question that I was a victim of racial discrimination.
https://study.com/articles/Diversity_Officer_Job_Description_Duties_and_Requirements.html
Wellington says
James: I just read your statement to my wife. She can not only sympathize with you but empathize as well.
She is white and in her profession (entertainment) she has been denied numerous roles BECAUSE she is white. I have already mentioned this to that American-hating, Rod, who, like Lefties anywhere, sees “systemic white racism” in America everywhere. For example, for the role of Mother Superior in the Sound of Music, to be done at a local New England theater, my wife was told directly that she gave the best audition but that they were looking for “a person of color” to fill the role (and a black was given the role—how silly to have a black Mother Superior in 1930’s Austria). My wife has also worked with blacks in three shows she was in and it was crystal clear that these three blacks were not hired for their talent but because they were black. In each show, they were easily “the weakest link,” as not only my wife but other cast members clearly knew but could not say anything. Additionally, my wife has many friends in her industry who are white who have told her of their not being cast because they are white.
Twenty years or so ago, the rule in the entertainment business was “color-blind casting,” which I personally think is stupid. Imagine a black Alexander Hamilton or black George Washington (oh wait, that has happened) but I doubt we will ever see a white Martin Luther King or a white singing Old Man River in Showboat. But now, it has gone beyond this charade (and it was a charade, just an excuse to hire more “people of color” who were not as talented as they should have been) to a point where at least the charade no longer exists. Now, it is just straight forward statements in audition information that those in charge only want to see “persons of color” for role after role.
On a more expansive note but still relevant to what I just wrote above, I am so tired of the “systemic racism” charge. Notice that no one ever gives examples. As I have asked many, how is a young, motivated, talented black person today stopped by white America from succeeding in any profession? I never get a cogent response.
I wish black America well but the greatest enemy of black America is black America. Using whites in general or blaming the police (or the generic “systemic racism” of course) is not mentioning the elephant in the room, i.e., all the self-inflicted social pathologies that blacks have only themselves to blame, examples being massive out-of-wedlock birth, young black males killing other young black males in huge amounts, and a grievance mentality that makes it far more likely one will never succeed or live a contented life. Interestingly, those black who do the right things, including having in tact families, by any statistical measurement I have come across have the same results respecting professional success and affluence levels as do whites.
We live in an America where so many things stated as facts are not facts at all but myths. One of the greatest is that “systemic racism” charge my wife and I hear all the time. Meanwhile, better qualified whites like you and my wife are denied a position or role precisely because you are white. Again, what a phony world we live in. Hope all is well with you and family in a very unwell (and phony) world.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
Thank you for your thoughtful and detailed reply. So sorry that your very own wife suffered discrimination in her field of work for the sole reason of being Caucasian.
Up until now, the only person that knew that I was not selected for the Board of Directors position was my wife. The incident happened about two years ago, and I just haven’t been able to talk about it.
It was not small potatoes. It would have been a three-year position with compensation of roughly $250,000 per year. Objectively, I was very highly qualified – and met or exceeded all items that they were supposedly looking for in an applicant. And I can say with 100% certainty that my CV far exceeded the CV of the female African-American who was selected.
To be honest, I actually feel somewhat better since someone besides my wife really knows what happened.
You’re certainly correct regarding the “systemic racism” lie. It’s always refreshing to hear someone like Candace Owens or Dr. Ben Carson attempt to set the record straight.
Thank you for letting me vent my frustration.
The very best to both you and yours.
Wellington says
I truly fear, James, that the greatest polity in the history of mankind, i.e. America (with faults certainly and no one does America justice by overlooking its faults, but ditto for those overlooking its many achievements), and which unique greatness I assert as a verity not because I am an American myself but because of my studies of the past, will perish due to massive ignorance.
My wife has been dealing with this reverse racism rot for a long time now—and it is only going to get worse. Reading my wonderful wife’s latest statement from her union, Equity, is a revelation of just how far matters have fallen—Equity is now a union run by fools or worse who endorse Black Lives Matter totally and which organization, BLM, is an American-hating, Israel-hating, police-hating, capitalist-hating, white-hating and even nuclear-family hating organization. BLM is disgusting and one knows this or should know it. Whatever is wrong with America it is nothing BLM can fix.
What really frosts me is how many whites, cowards all (including Biden who in his half century career has done NOTHING to make America a better country), cave to all this grievance mongering. One of the few positives out of all of this is how much contempt black conservatives have manifested towards liberal whites, persons like Candace Owens, Shelby Steele, Larry Elder, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Ted Williams—and even recently, Leo Terrell, among so many other black conservatives (or even old-fashion liberals in the case of Terrell) who grasp how destructive Leftthink has been to black America since the 1960’s (N.B., silly people like Rod who post here at JW won’t grasp any of this).
Well, closing on a positive note, it could be worse, to wit, we could live in a world without beer, but if the most devout Muslims get their way all across the earth, this will be gone too. With Islam—and all other totalitarian ideologies—everything of value is eventually gone. The newest addition to this infamous list is modern Western Leftism, a monumental idiotic belief system if ever there were one. On its own, Islam aside ( big “aside” I know), Leftism has the capacity to ruin Western Civilization, easily the greatest civilization in man’s history. Think I’ll have a Yuengling Porter (while I still can).
Best to your and yours, James. Hopefully, reason, justice, common sense and other good things will prevail in the long run but in no way is this a given—actually far less than a “given.” Ah, time for that porter.
gravenimage says
Great exchange, James and Wellington–albeit disturbing. My husband was laid off in early April, his position a casualty of the Coronavirus shutdown. He is working with a job-finding firm supplied by his former employer, and they mentioned that many companies are now grilling potential employees on their views on BLM and “social justice”. My husband is no racist, and never has been–but this smacks more of ideological ‘purity’ than anything else.
Wellington says
Anyone defending Islam is pathetic but any black defending Islam, in light of Islam’s far longer record on the matter of black slavery, starting with its supposed prophet—and with no apology to date for any of this by the Islamic world—is extra pathetic.
As for Jesus not being white, this is just stupid. Fitting though since Islam has stupidity written all over it as well as hypocrisy.
gravenimage says
NC imam: The image of a white Jesus feeds white supremacy and injustice all over the world
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What claptrap. People all over the world have depicted the Savior as one of their own, while understanding that he was born in the Levant. You find European, Ethiopian, Latin American, east Asian, Native American, and African American depictions of Jesus. There is nothing supremacist about this.
Dawne says
Yet more lies and sh*t stirring from the Muslim hierarchy. As to Jesus’ appearance – how can we possibly know? But while His mother Mary was presumably (possibly?) of Jewish appearance, His father was God and surely that is a great unknown?! In any event, white supremacists are rarely devout Christians.
Linde Barrera says
This imam is ignorant. Artists create Jesus with their own interpretation of what Jests looked like. Usually but not always, if the artist is Caucasian, then Jesus looks Caucasian. Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. His looks do not matter. It is what He represents that matters: salvation from the1 true Triune God.
Linde Barrera says
Correction- “Jests” should be “Jesus”. I apologize for my fast typing error.
gravenimage says
+1
mortimer says
The Koran provides a COMPLETE RE-WRITE of the teachings of Jesus by turning him into a cousin of Mohammed the warlord.
The Koran deliberately avoids quoting the peaceful teachings of Jesus and teaches the reverse of Jesus’ compassionate ‘Love your enemy’.
The Koran is MERCILESS towards the dirty kufaar.
Koran 48.29 “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; Those with him are VIOLENT (ashiddaa’) against the unbelievers (kufaar), Compassionate amongst themselves.”
mortimer says
Raleigh N.C. Imam Oliver S. Muhammad = psychological projection. Mohammed the whitest prophet is the white supremacist.
OLD GUY says
Imam Oly S. Muhammad you are the inferior man worshiping the god of violence, rape, child marriage/rape, honor killings and terror. You are wrong, my god no matter what color is a god of love, peace and forgiveness and doesn’t need to threaten and kill people get followers as Allah seems to.