This is because in Erdogan’s world, the discussion must never be about what Muslims may have done to harm anyone else, but only about how Muslims have been harmed. He shares this perspective with Islamic supremacists the world over. It is always, always, always the other guy’s fault, no matter what.
“With its new status, Hagia Sophia, the shared heritage of humanity, will continue to embrace all,” Presidency of the Republic of Turkey, July 10, 2020:
…President Erdoğan went on to say: “Just as we as Turkey do not interfere in decisions on places of worship in other countries, we expect the same understanding about us protecting our historical and legal rights. Moreover, this right dates back exactly 567 years ago, not just 50 or 100 years. If today a faith-oriented discussion is to be held, the topic of that discussion should be not Hagia Sophia, but Islamophobia and xenophobia increasing with each passing day in all parts of the world. Turkey’s decision is solely related to its own domestic laws and historical rights.”…
CogitoErgoSum says
He says, “We Turks don’t interfere in decisions on places of worship in other countries.” That’s why they would prefer to invade other countries and force them to be part of their empire. So they can wipe out those other places of worship they don’t like.
andra says
Well said.
Chistopher Watson says
There are lots of spare moslem buildings in Europe we can use. They are called mosques.
gravenimage says
Spot on, CogitoErgoSum.
Here’s Erdogan’s threat:
“Erdogan: ‘Resurrection of Hagia Sophia” heralds “return of freedom to al-Aqsa,’ revival of Islam Uzbekistan to Spain”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/07/erdogan-resurrection-of-hagia-sophia-heralds-return-of-freedom-to-al-aqsa-revival-of-islam-uzbekistan-to-spain
Jerome B Bigge says
They exploit the “weakness” of “liberal multiculturalism” against monolithic cultures that have no hesitation to exploit the intellectual weakness of multicultural societies. Western political ideology in the long run is doomed to its own self destruction because it lacks the “backbone” to say “No!” to those cultures that will eventually destroy it. A century ago, things would have been different… Back then we had no “doubts” as to the proper order of things. And the willingness to use whatever level of violence was necessary to keep the “established order” in place.
True, the “West” of a century ago was not a very nice society by today’s standards. The KKK controlled the social order in the former states of the Confederacy. Western militaries exploited their technological advantages against the technologically inferior societies that now lived under the “thumb” of the West.
Two great “Wars” however have emasculated the “West” as a society willing to fight to retain its superiority over the rest of the Earth. Western Europe will eventually submit itself to Islam. Islam already has a “foothold” in the UK. The UK itself, “weakened” by its 20th Century wars and the “surrender ideology” of multiculturalism will most likely “fall” to Islam along with the rest of Europe. Russia however, not being “weakened” by the “surrender ideology” of Western liberalism, is likely to use its military might (including weapons of mass destruction) to defend itself against Islam. China is another powerful country that is unlikely due to its cultural history that will not submit. Again China also has the military might that may be possibly needed to say “No!” to Islam.
As for the US, the Democratic Party has already “surrendered”. All the Muslims elected by Democratic voters on both the state and federal levels will naturally “encourage” political submission to Islam and its objectives since the 7th Century to eventually conquer the Earth.
Islamophobia is a justified reasonable reaction to Islam. Much as hostility to Nazism would be a justified reasonable reaction by Jews and other groups who were murdered by the Nazis in their infamous extermination camps. Ironically life under Communism was better (especially for women) than it is under Islam. So we can say, “Better Red than Muslim”.
Eraged Kafir says
Islam us no respector of other faiths. Everywhere it goes and becomes dominant it uses previous centers of Christian,Sikh,Hindu or many other faiths as to be the next mosque.
Mischief Maker in the Land says
Islamophobia?
How about Erdoganausea?
Pet Charles says
Meanwhile the European hypocrites are debating in Spain over whether Muslims should be allowed to pray in the so called Cathedral-Mosque of Cordoba even though Isabella and Ferdinand kicked out Islam over 500 years ago.
SAFI says
You mean the *muslim hypocrites* demanding and the european cowards debating
SAFI says
“Just as we as Turkey do not interfere in decisions on places of worship in other countries…” such a patent lie one doesn’t know where to start. How about when just recently Austria said they’d deport thousands of turkish imams due to their subversive activities and spreading of extremist ideology not to mention them literally being turkish spies, a decision which made Erdogan was furious of course, and prompted him to start making his usual theats.
It’s funny how Erdogan wants to talk about his “historical rights” but it probably doesn’t even cross his mind that the “History” of the Hagia Sophia (and many other “mosques” in turkey) did not commence with Mehmet II “the Conqueror” seizing it in a bloodbath nor for that matter with “the Prophet” Muhammad commanding his followers to subjugate Constantinople (though I think Muhammad said it would be an (Arab) army from Madina which would accmplish this so I guess Moe failed again at prophecy)
SAFI says
by the way check out this bizarre islamic propaganda animation I’ve just found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVqXbCHp8n8&t=108m22s
SAFI says
“The people welcomed his magnificent procession with flowers” This is probably where Erdogan is getting his history fom… ?
I like how when Mehmet enters the Great Church, it already looks like a mosque with no “idolatrous” christian art to be seen anywhere…The narrator even mentions the popular turkish “Islam-bul” paretymology… This is Gold ?
gravenimage says
Just disgusting bald-faced lies. I’ve watched this Taqiyya fest before.
Thanks for the link, SAFI.
The Istanbulian says
Is that why you just threatened to liberate al aqsa tayyip?
Henry Schalk says
So, the ‘wannabe’ Caliph and jihadist Erdogan, wants to talk ‘Islamophobia’?
Bring it on I say!
gravenimage says
Erdogan: ‘If a faith-oriented discussion is to be held, the topic should be not Hagia Sophia, but Islamophobia’
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Hagia Sophia actually exists–“Islamophobia”, not so much…
I love Iblis says
Islamophobia means “irrational fear of Islam”. I am against Islamophobia because, we should not fear from Islam. Islam is a coward death cult. There is nothing to fear from it but, take action and go against it ! Don’t fear from Islam. If you read the Quran you can see how stupid Allah is.
Simone says
What a terrible threat this man is. His aim is ultimately to destroy Israel.
Marigold says
This man is pandering to extremist islamists for political gain and this is only the beginning. Whining about Islamaphobia is a diversion that he hopes the weak so called Christian West will swallow whole as they always do.Turkish Christians and secularists must be very worried about what he will do next. Was he not pandering to the Islamist extremists he would agree that in fact the Hagia Sofia should revert back to its original status as a CHRISTIAN place of worship which was what it was built for and intended to be.
OLD GUY says
Someone needs to take this guy out, he’s a danger to mankind. Looks like a dictator has taken over Turkey.