Facebook will likely ban him, too. They don’t like the freedom of speech over there.
This is yet another glimpse into the future of the U.S. This can’t happen here, you say? We respect the freedom of speech, you say? Maybe that was true at one time, but it is no longer. Cowardice is pandemic. Newspapers all over the country refused to republish the notorious Muhammad cartoons out of a newfound “respect” for Islam that they never showed for negative portrayals of Christianity, which they hailed as “courageous.” Those who call attention to the ideological roots of jihad violence are already excoriated as “inciting hatred” and smeared as racist, bigoted “Islamophobes.” Most organizations on both the Left and the Right would never dare feature such people as speakers. Any organization that does is immediately denounced and called upon to apologize, and it usually does. So given that this is the climate today, what do you think the situation will be like in ten or twenty years?
“Man gets 26 months’ jail for insulting Islam, Prophet Muhammad,” AFP, July 17, 2020 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
KUALA LUMPUR, July 17 — A man was sentenced to 26 months’ jail by the Sessions Court here today after he was found guilty on two counts of insulting Prophet Muhammad, Islam and PAS president Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang on Facebook last year.
Judge MM Edwin Paramjothy imposed a 26-month jail term for the first charge and a six-month term for the second charge on Danny Antoni, 29, and ordered the sentences to run concurrently from the date of his arrest on March 6, 2019.
In his judgment, Edwin said the crime of insulting one’s religion was committed not only against the person it was directed at but also against the values and functions that the particular religion represents.
“The question in every case is whether the words used are of such a nature that they will bring about the substantive evils that the legislature has enacted laws to prevent.
“Though freedom of expression secures the freedom to criticise, this right does not grant individuals the right to insult. The law protects freedom of religion through the enactment or strengthening of national frameworks and legislation to prevent the vilification of religions and the negative stereotyping of religious groups,” he said.
Edwin added that religion is something personal and especially dear to the ones professing it, and it is undeniable that in the instant case, the accused’s inappropriate, irresponsible and provocative posting based on race and religion had transgressed the parameters of free speech guaranteed under the Federal Constitution.
Furthermore, he said, the posting was highly inflammatory and emotive, drawing much prejudice against the religion of Islam….
Peter Buckley says
For “insulting” Muhammad, read “tellig the truth about” Muhammad.
You don’t actually NEED to “insult” Muhammad, as the facts about him are “insulting” enough, in order words an embarrassment to Muslims who nowadays would rather not mention Muhammad’s name in the company of knowledgeable non-muslimso (even more embarrassing) ex-muslims.
Hence, JW readers are invited to copy and paste the following onto any online article about Muhammad, as I have here, for example, in the “comments” section:
Thanks to the Internet, muslims can now read online the first biography of Muhammad, by the devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
If you read the biography, you will understand why so-called “extremists” do what they do (they are copying Muhammad), and why so many muslims are leaving Islam now they are finding out the truth.
Muhammad orders his son-in-law Ali, to behead Al-Nadr bin al-Harith on page 136.
Muhammad says that those who follow him will be given paradise; those who refuse will be slaughtered and sent to hell on page 222
Muhammad approves the stabbing of Uqba bin Abu Muayt on page 308.
Muhammad arranges the beheading of Kab bin al-Ashraf on page 364-9.
Muhammad personally beheads over 600 Jewish prisoners of war on page 464
Muhammad orders the torturing of treasurer of Khaybar tribe, Kinana on page 515
Muhammad orders the killing of Abdullah bin Katal’s and one of his singing-girls on page 550-1
Muhammad approves the murder of Asma bint Marwan on page 675-6.
Muhammad arranges the assassination of the old man Abu Afak on page 675.
Muhammad approves the murder of an old one-eyed Bedouin man, by Amr bin Umayya, one of his Jihadist thugs on page 674-5.
http://www.justislam.co.uk/images/Ibn%20Ishaq%20-%20Sirat%20Rasul%20Allah.pdf
Edmund says
Insulting Mahmad that’s is calling him good/bad in human sense. The same as telling that Allah is love. This a heresy for Muslims. Both could do anythying they want, and this is good, becouse they have no limits. So every crime they commit is good. Period.
gravenimage says
Yes–Islam has no sense of morality in the way civilized people use the term.
mortimer says
Peter Buckley’s list of evil, brutal deeds by Mohammed are examples that almost no Muslims today wish to imitate. They thus prove that Mohammed is NOT an appropriate role model for the civilized modern world.
In actual fact, by imitating Western civilized manners (instead of Mohammed’s), Muslims demonstrate that they are NOT following Islam. Muslims today are actually APOSTATES FROM ISLAM IN THEIR PERSONAL CONDUCT. They do not conduct jihad in the violent, brutal way that Mohammed and his companions did.
Today’s Muslims do not conduct jihad at all. They pay lip service to Islam. Such Muslims are 50% apostate.
James Lincoln says
mortimer says,
“Today’s Muslims do not conduct jihad at all. They pay lip service to Islam. Such Muslims are 50% apostate.”
I think it would be more accurate if you said that today’s muslims conduct less *physical* jihad. The other seven forms of jihad – which are just as frightening – are becoming *more* prominent.
1. Population jihad
2. Media jihad
3. Education jihad
4. Economic jihad
5. Physical jihad
6. Legal jihad
7. Humanitarian jihad
8. Political jihad
https://www.christianpost.com/news/what-are-the-8-types-of-jihad-former-radical-muslim-explains.html?page=3
john smith says
Spot on James
gravenimage says
Mortimer, I’m afraid that pious Muslims do indeed murder Infidels and critics of Islam all the time. Surely you are aware of all the cases just reported here?
The idea that Muslims today do not conduct Jihad at all is belied every day.
AP says
Not all Germans were bad, but they knew that the Jews were being murdered. just as the so called moderate Muslims, will turn a blind eye to you loosing your head. That is guilt plain and simple. They are going along to get along that all.
DH says
Of course it is impossible to insult a concept or a dead person. If the criminal code was honestly written it would say, “You said something we (a lot of Malaysians) bitterly disapprove of and we are pretending to be unanimous about this condemnation, and we urgently want you to suffer because we hate you for it. Moreover, we would really rather see you stoned to death but these days that would make Islam look bad so consider yourself lucky.”
In most places people are so distant from the ugly history of blasphemy that it has become comedic material.
“The Inquistion”
Mel Brooks
“The History of the World – Part 1”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUMkcBctE7c
Did I see a crack appearing in the corners of that old imam’s mouth? No. It was a sneer.
mortimer says
DH, that’s not the issue. Sharia law punishes someone who “-5- mentions something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.” – Reliance of the Traveller’ Chapter ‘O’ 11.10.05.
Whatever does not promote or endorse everything in Islam is considered to be ‘impermissible’. You must promote or endorse Islam or remain silent.
Asking challenging questions about Islamic doctrines would also be ‘impermissible’.
James Lincoln says
DH,
Thanks for the video link – excellent video by Dr. Bill Warner.
Interestingly, there were periodic ads featuring islamic propaganda. I wonder who inserted those???
mortimer says
Islam is at war with the freedom of expression and with the freedom of conscience.
The Globalist-Neo-Fascist Left also wishes to impose censorship of ideas that are not according to their Globalist party line.
That is why the Globalist-Leftist Facebook is on board with censorship of anything that is critical of Islam.
Facebook is staffed mainly by Globalist-neo-Fascist-Leftists and partly educated low-wage Muslims who quickly ban people who express non-Globalist or counterjihad thoughts.
Facebook should lose its status as a town-square platform and be re-categorized as a ‘PUBLISHER’ since the edit and delete content for political reasons. Facebook (along with twitter) is the chief defender of the Democrat agenda. It should pay taxes as a partisan, political publisher.
Mitch Kumstein says
Geez, you sho’ got it right…………..you got a classical education or what…..???
gravenimage says
What is this poster sneering at the erudite Mortimer for?
mortimer says
This is typical Islamic self-contradiction: “Though freedom of expression secures the freedom to criticise, this right does not grant individuals the right to insult.” But, of course, it is the right to insult ideas we don’t like and to say things that others find offensive.
Almost any important statement will be offensive to someone.
– The right to blaspheme religion is one of the most elemental exercises of political liberalism. One cannot defend the right without defending the practice.
– Jonathan Chait, Daily Intelligencer, January 7, 2015
Mitch Kumstein says
Marry a child…………………..???
Jon Sobieski says
Sure there’s freedom of speech but it does not include insults. It’s a joke. Freedom to offend is freedom of speech. All others are censorships. Youtube and Facebook now say videos are removed because they ‘offend’. They used to say hate, but now they just use the word ‘offend.’ Like hate it is highly subjective.
Mitch Kumstein says
Well, pardon me………………………………………………….???
gravenimage says
True, Jon–freedom of speech is not freedom of speech if it cannot offend.
Ren says
Pointing out the immorality of Muhammad, the pedophile and terrorist of islam is criminal. This is how islam and apologists of islam work.
gravenimage says
Malaysia: Man gets two years in prison for insulting Islam and Muhammad on Facebook
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And remember, Malaysia is supposed to be a “moderate” Muslim nation…
Mitch Kumstein says
The difference between the moderate and the radical: the moderate sits on your legs while the radical slits your throat…………..???
Morten Pedersen says
I’m going to hurt someone’s feelings soon… I’m already doing it inside my head….
OLD GUY says
So much for freedom of speech. And that is what is totally at steak with the islamic sharia laws that will effect everyones freedoms in many forms.