“Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve.” (Qur’an 8:55)
“Muslim Cleric Promotes Hatred Against Christians in Pakistan,” International Christian Concern, July 18, 2020:
07/18/2020 Pakistan (International Christian Concern) – Church leaders in Pakistan have raised concern over a video that went viral on social media that prompted hate against Christians. On that video, published on YouTube, a Muslim cleric uttered derogatory remarks against Christians, particularly Pakistani Christians.
In the video, the cleric called himself, “An orderly spiritual person in Islam.”
The cleric went on to provoked his followers, saying, “I used to live in Rawalpindi, a city next to the country’s capital, Islamabad, when I was a student. There was a church of Esais (a derogatory word used for Christians), was near my residence. Some of my classmates were interested to see the church from inside. There wasn’t any harm going in, however, each time I answered them, ‘We have nothing to do with the places of worship of those who do not recognize our Prophet.’”
“I want to let you know that these people (Christians) are the worst infidels of the universe,” the cleric continued. “We should keep distance from them.”
“Those Christians have no right to live in this Islamic country,” the cleric shouted. “Throw them out from this country.”
“They should go to Trump, the President of USA,” the cleric continued, “and polish his shoe and work for him only. In Pakistan, they have no right to live. God willing, we are ready to scarify our lives on the issue of finality of Prophethood of Hazrat Muhammad.”…
mortimer says
The most intolerant religion ever. Muslims accept that the belief in the divinity of Christ deserves the death sentence, which may be avoided by paying jizzya (head tax) every year. Such a belief will be punished by eternal hellfire, even though the early Koran maintains that Jews and Christians have nothing to fear in the afterlife. The Koran talks out of both sides of its mouth. ‘Good’ Muslims will thus be duplicitous in their words as well. The bigotry in the Muslim world is now ramping up due to bigots like Erdogan who has visited Pakistan to assure them they may invade Kashmir.
Even though the constitution of Pakistan mandates freedom of religion, in effect, all minorities are persecuted and little is done to protect them.
Pakistan along with Turkey and Afghanistan is one of the most bigoted countries in the world.
With mullahs like that who preach AL WALAA WAL BARAA (the canonical hatred of disbelieving kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’), we have less difficulty to explain that such mullahs are preaching pure, canonical, authentic Islam, rather than an aberration.
abad says
Precisely WHY we need to start deporting them from The USA. We can start with Tlaib and Omar. Neither one of them were born here.
Chistopher Watson says
But they do like living in the west, don’t they? They like the clean streets, the doctors, the toilets, the bathrooms, the hospitals…oh, and the money. How they love the money.
gravenimage says
Muslims believe that they have the right to everything the Infidels have created.
J D S says
Yes Graven! What have the Muslims created…but chaos. No other group of people in recent times have cAused such a disastrous scheme than the radical muslims have done.
To want, in fact demand, that all bow to their god, Satan. Must be Satan because a God of Love would not allow His followers to promote the bloodthirsty fanatics as does their allah.
I think that our leaders in the west, and even the “man on the street” have not read their book of hate, the Koran, neither have they listened to the few voices “crying in the wilderness” telling the truth about the wiles out islam.
I have no proof of this….but somewhere Islam must be the drive behind the chaos that is going on in our cities with the “protesters” (anarchist) running rampant throughout. I could be very wrong about this but……..
gravenimage says
Certainly, J D S, Muslims have glommed on to the whole “BLM” thing.
“London: Black Lives Matter protesters scream ‘Allahu akbar’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/07/london-blm-protest-joins-allahu-akbar-chanting-pro-yemen-demonstrators
“Los Angeles: ‘Palestinians for Black Power’ joins Palestinian Day of Rage”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/07/los-angeles-palestinians-for-black-power-joins-palestinian-day-of-rage
There are many more examples.
Walter Sieruk says
As in the days of Nehemiah when he and his men were busy in the reconstruction of the walls around Jerusalem and the Arab became furious and indigent at this at this grand project of the rebuilding of the walls. Neh 4:1 and they thus despised the Jews , Neh. 4:4 ,and schemed terrorist attacks against them.
So the Jewish men set up watch for such attacks, Neh 4:8, therefore ,on this watch they set up guards to be ready for those terrorists attacks , Neh 4;16.
Likewise, in this twenty –first century in areas of the world, as the Middle East and Indonesia, Christians need to be “on watch and stand firm” First Corinthians 16:13.,as to be on guard from jihad-minded Muslim terrorist attacks against Christians .
For Christians together compose the symbolic body of Christ, Ephesians 1:13. 5:30.
Furthermore, it should be made known that the Muslim terrorists who engage in the persecution of Christians will not get away from the punishment of God for their wicked actions. As seen in Romans 14: 12. First Corinthians 3: 16, 17. Galatians 6:7.
J Morgan says
Christians “worst infidels of the universe, have no right to live in Islamic country”
Really, one could replace Christian with Muslim here with living in a western country. Sharia minded Muslims have no business being in the West. There are plenty of Sharia countries they could live in. They only come to the West for one reason and that is jihad and we don’t need them.
Mural says
India wanted to give citizenship to these people.
The Catholic Church opposed it!! Along with leftists and Islamists .
Rarely says
Please clarify.
mural says
Sure.
There was a bill that was passed in the Indian Parliament which gave citizenship rights to some of the persecuted minorities in Pakistan. This list included Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jain (All four have roots in India) and Christianity.
So, one would think that the Catholic church would be happy with this right?
Well, No!! They are quite displeased with this! They would rather fellow Christians die than see India become less secular!!
https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/india/in-protest-against-caa-catholic-church-of-india-declares-january-26-as-constitution-protection-day
https://www.opindia.com/2020/01/church-christians-anti-caa-26-january-save-constitution-day/
Why this madness? Well, you see, they believe allying with Muslims in India against majority Hindus is good for them , long-term. I am surprised that they think this way.
BTW, Poor Christians in India have a better shot at getting top-quality education in India as many educational institutions are run by Clergy and nearly 25% seats are reserved for Christians in these institutions. So, the decision of the Church is baffling to say the least.
gravenimage says
Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, and all of the other persecuted Infidels in Pakistan should take India up on her generous offer.
Michael Copeland says
“My religion doesn’t tolerate other religion. It doesn’t tolerate.”
Abu Bakr, Australia.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/02/islams-agenda-muslims-speak/
Mural says
Christians assaulted the Indigenous religions the world over through violence ( initially) and bribery later.
A religion even more vicious is dislodging Christianity in Nigeria and Pakistan.
Life comes full circle, sometimes.
CogitoErgoSum says
I make a distinction between a religion and its followers. I see many people who call themselves Christians not following all the teachings I find in the Bible. Likewise, I see many people who call themselves Muslims who do not follow all the teachings I find in the Koran. Look at the scriptures of a religion to see what it teaches before you judge it and not at what people do. I’m glad you at least think Islam is more vicious than Christianity. Christianity was never intended to harm anyone. Islam was and still is.
Mural says
Thanks for your reply.
You see, Christianity does think that its way is the only way. Just like Islam
Please correct me if I am wrong : If I do not believe that Jesus is the son of God or that he died for my sins,
What are God’s plans for me?
CogitoErgoSum says
God’s plan for you is that you live a life on this Earth that shows you love God and you love all the good things God has created for you, including other human beings. If you do this you are on the right path and somewhere along that path you will meet Jesus and have a talk with each other. This may not happen until the very instant between your losing consciousness and your soul leaving your body, but I believe it will happen. Jesus will see what was in your heart during your life and how you lived your life and He will give you all the help you need to gain eternal life in a better place than this. When you see Him just be willing to let Him help you. That is how I see it.
Claire Brook says
Check out David Wood Acts17 apologetics
On YouTube
Here’s a link for a random one…
https://youtu.be/QsZZZdmemgE
Islam is a clumsy counterfeit man-made ‘religion’.
Real christianity is a personal 24/7 supernatural relationship.
gravenimage says
More false moral equivalence. And no–there is *nothing* in Christianity that preaches spreading the faith through violence.
abad says
Christians want to convert you.
Moslems want to kill you.
And that’s all you need to know about Christianity and Islam.
mural says
+1
Nothing more to add to this.
SAFI says
Pakistani muslims, of all people, who have been invadiing Europe by the millions and inflicting a myriad evils upon our societies(like the UKs infamous “asian” rape-gangs), want to expel the largely native-born and already persecuted Christians from the nuclear-armed shithole of Pakistan.
I say we’d gladly receive Pakistan’s expeled Christians if it meant that we also get to deport the Paki muslim invaders from our countries back to their islamic shithole, which they left behind voluntarily in order to come here and commit sex- and other crimes while living on benefits
mural says
There are countless Pakistani Christian girls who are raped, abducted and then converted to Islam every year.
Christian countries should give citizenship to these people even if you folks cannot deport the muslim invadors.
Life for minorities in any Islamic country is hell on earth, especially if one is poor and helpless.
gravenimage says
Agreed–we should be giving asylum to the victims of Islam.
infidel says
Yet I will still take living with Christians anywhere anytime even if were the single Hindu living among them. At least they will not kill U and let U be. At least Christians will not abduct and rape Ur women… At least Christians will not suddenly murder U one day.. At least most Christians are forward thinking and believe in Science, tech, and progress. The list goes on and on and on.. And lastly, at Christians can be reasoned with across the table that U do not want to convert and THEN THEY :LEAVE U ALONE .. and that’s enough for me.
mural says
@ CogitoErgoSum,
And If I do not take Jesus’s help, or do not believe that he died for my sins or if I do not love him, Will my soul burn in eternal hell?
Would you agree that this passage below answers my questions ?
‘ This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. ‘
2 Thessalonians 1:3 : https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+1&version=NIV
BTW, why do I have to meet Jesus Christ and get his stamp of approval? Can’t i just live life for its own sake and die? Now, do you see why I said Christianity and Islam are similar in some ways? One believes Jesus is the way and the other Mohammed and his sock puppet.
Both Islam and Christianity are dangerous to humanists and atheists, leave alone people who subscribe to other religions. Islam is dangerous both here and in the hereafter. Christianity is slightly dangerous (one can ask those women who were killed because of being a witch!) here and extremely dangerous in the hereafter for the unbelievers.
CogitoErgoSum says
Well, I also believe you are free to reject Jesus if you want. Jesus Himself let people walk away from Him when the people turned their backs on Him when He would not repeat the miracle of the loaves and fishes. As He said to Judas, go and do what you must do. I don’t see how this is dangerous to anyone … except that it got Jesus nailed to a cross and His followers reviled and persecuted. So okay, it is dangerous in some ways, I suppose.
CogitoErgoSum says
Also, if you don’t believe there is a God or a Jesus or a Hell, why does it bother you if I do? Would you get upset with a little kid for believing there is a Santa Claus or would you be ridiculing him all the time for believing in something that makes him happy? Now, let me clarify that by saying that thinking some people may go to Hell does not make me happy but it does give me a feeling that there is some kind of justice in the universe … even if it comes only after we die.
murali says
‘ Also, if you don’t believe there is a God or a Jesus or a Hell, why does it bother you if I do? ‘
I have never said it bothers me. Please quote me if I have.
Everyone should free to believe in anything they wish to. As long as it does not impinge on the beliefs on others. Or harm others physically.
I only have a problem if these beliefs of Heaven or Hell are imposed on others either overtly ( Islam) and covertly (Christianity).
mural says
You omit what the descendants of his reviled and persecuted followers did to others later : I post a sample here, all in his name :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa_Inquisition
So, based on the passage I quoted, which is quite mainstream, I will go to hell. Most Evangelicals I have met have assured me that I have a one-way, forever, ticket to hell if I do not accept that Jesus died for my sins.
I am happy that you do not go to that extreme. But would you also say that I would not face eternal damnation if I do not believe in Christ?
Thanks for the conversation. Have a pleasant day ahead!
CogitoErgoSum says
Well, what more can I say? What people do and what their religion tells them to do are two different things. If you think you are living a good and decent life, I congratulate you. If you think you will never meet Jesus, you go ahead and think that. I will let you go about your own business. I thank you for the conversation also and wish you a pleasant day and a pleasant life too. May no harm ever come to you.
John says
If I was Trump I’d reply to this Paki banter, “We’ll take all your Christians if you take ALL our Muslims.”
AnnChristine says
I would love to hear Trump say this—–It would be a fantastic state of affairs for him and a brilliant idea!
roberta says
What the Christians in the muslim countries endure, and yet still maintain their Christian families and communities. The strength that must take.
They truly make me ashamed of my own shortcomings as a Christian.
gravenimage says
Pakistan: Muslim cleric says Christians “worst infidels of the universe, have no right to live in Islamic country”
In Pakistan, they have no right to live. God willing, we are ready to scarify our lives on the issue of finality of Prophethood of Hazrat Muhammad.”…
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This last is all about murder. And note that pious Muslims consider killing peaceful Christians to be ‘brave’.
Mike says
and the world is to fell sorry for what’s happening in China to the Muslims
from what I keep reading
what goes around comes around
China is just doing to them before they do to the China’s people first
infidel says
But there in India, they instigate naive Indian Christians into believing that Hindus are their enemies and Muslims are their friends. And here many Indian Christians too think that way.. regard Hindus as their enemies. Hindus only oppose Christian conversions as they believe that India is the last country on this earth for Hindus.. We have nowhere else to go… HINDUS DO NOT MASS MURDER CHRISTIANS AND NEITHER HINDUS ACTIVELY CONVERT OTHERS.. HINDUS ALWAYS LET OTHERS BE!!!
mural says
HINDUS ALWAYS LET OTHERS BE!!!
Exactly!! . Why not just let others be. No need for good news or the messiah or the last Propthet or the endless protelysation. Let everyone believe in their own pet fairy tales and leave others alone.
Lot of posters here are from US and the first world. They do not see the vicious levels that evangelicals stoop to in poor countries to increase the flock. What is present in Christian theology is entirely different from what is done in PRACTICE.
Jesus or No Jesus, Buddha or no Buddha, life is mostly beautiful in the here and now. Even more so if religious zealots of all hues (mostly the semitic triad) do not push their opinions in my craw.
infidel says
Did U notice, how these Muslims constantly whine and complain in non Muslim countries in the West for more and more favors and yet they treat their own minorities so badly. Such blatant hypocrisy and yet idiotic DHIMMI UN fails to take notice.
SAFI says
Yep we’ve noticed. Not too long ago I tended to think that this hypocrisy was mostly generated at a “subconscious” level, that is to say I used to think that, for the most part, muslims did not fully realize just how hypocritically they tend to behave. But since then I’ve learned things and seen things that got me fully convinced that Muslims are very consciously, shamelessly and cynically exploiting other peoples empathy, (even resorting to outright lies in order to claim victimhood), without ever intending to reciprocate the infidels’ tolerance. And yes the UN is ran by idiots (and cynical muslims manipulating the idiots)…
OLD GUY says
The islamic lie of a peaceful “religion” is pure bulls””t. Muslim control of a country means the murder, rape and slavery of the non-islamic people.
SLM says
This is the worst Religious Racism, practiced only because they feel safe from accountability by Racist Government as well . Those people are so isolated from humanity, they were taught they are the best of humans. anything against these teachings shakes the ground they stand on. They have nothing else of value to be proud of , or to stick to , other then poverty and helplessness.