The demands will never stop. And when one bows to intimidation, one will only get more intimidation. But no one realizes that in the West these days.
“Muslims Claim Córdoba Cathedral,” by Jules Gomes, ChurchMilitant.com, July 24, 2020:
ROME (ChurchMilitant.com) – The ruler of Sharjah — the third largest and third most populous city in the United Arab Emirates — is demanding the conversion of Córdoba’s Catholic cathedral into a mosque days after Turkey ordered the Islamic takeover of Hagia Sophia basilica.Sheikh Sultan bin Muhammad Al-Qasimi, sovereign of one of the seven emirates that make up the United Arab Emirates (UAE), told Sharjah News that Córdoba Cathedral, located in the Spanish region of Andalusia, was “a gift” to Christians “who do not deserve it.”
“They do not own it” since the cathedral “belongs to Muslims,” His Highness Sheikh Sultan III insisted in an interview on July 16.
The ruler said he was demanding “the return of the Mosque of Córdoba, which was granted to the Church.”
El Día de Córdoba news noted that Córdoba Cathedral “had been used on several occasions to justify the conversion of Hagia Sophia into a mosque,” by senior Turkish officials, as well as Muslim historians and theologians.
Turkish foreign minister Mevlüt Çavusoglu told public broadcaster TRT that “the Córdoba Mosque in Spain, built as a mosque in the eighth century, was converted into a church in the 13th century.”
“Is it used as a church today? Yes. Is it on the World Heritage list? Yes,” he argued.
Turkish historian Lütfi Seyban pointed out that Muslims cannot pray in the Córdoba Cathedral, where Mass is celebrated.
‘Ignorance of History’
Speaking to Church Militant, eminent Islamic historian Robert Spencer said that “attempts to draw an equivalency between Hagia Sophia and the Córdoba Cathedral are based on ignorance of history.”
“The Córdoba Cathedral was indeed once a mosque. But that mosque was originally built on the site of a Visigothic church that the invading Muslims destroyed,” Spencer explained.
“If we’re going to go back to the original use of both lands, then both Hagia Sophia and the Córdoba Cathedral should be cathedrals,” affirmed the author of The History of Jihad: From Muhammad to ISIS.
Spencer added:But there is an old Islamic adage, “Islam must dominate, and not be dominated,” and that is what we see at work here. As far as the Sharjah sultan is concerned, any building that was once a mosque should always be a mosque, as Islam must be ever-growing, ever-expanding (hence its affinity for the color green, the color of spring, of growth).
In his media interview, Sheikh Sultan III claimed that “the municipality gave the mosque to the Church, who is the current owner of the Córdovan edifice.”…
mortimer says
The Sultan of Sharjah is obviously claiming that the principle ‘once Islamic, always Islamic’ must be accepted.
It doesn’t matter that the Cordoba cathedral came first or that Hagia Sophia was built as the mother church of Orthodoxy. Pooh pooh!
The important point for him is that once Muslims touch something, they own it forever. That is not in the Koran.
To be sure, Mohammed stole the Kaaba from its owners and made it an exclusive club for Muslims only. That is the model that is being applied to HS. Muslims must imitate the thief Mohammed.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is how Muslims think.
Rob says
This is like the descendants of Napoleon’s army of 1812, claiming Russia.
Martin says
video – CORDOBA – Muslim prayer just outside the cathedral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIvwtey9Qcg
Martin says
call to prayer inside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38Xt2JFVBI
Martin says
VATICAN – 2018 – Spanish government doubts Cordoba’s Mosque-Cathedral belongs to Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1ygNw1j0g
gravenimage says
What rot. This was a Church long before it was a Mosque.
Brian Hoff says
Fake videio fake new
gravenimage says
What video is “fake”? What is “Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–babbling about here?
J Morgan says
“..“a gift” to Christians “who do not deserve it.”” Wow, just wow. Hear that Pope?
DH says
Did he get down on the floor and stomp and cry “I want my mosque back. Waaahhh!”
Rob R (Brit stuck in Britainistan) says
Yeah, and baby will probably get it too. My stupid family is headed by a loathsome lefty and the craziest most insane person here always got what she wanted (usually by screaming). The craziest stuff that I ever had to put up with, happened right around the time of Obama 1st being elected/taking office. That seems to be the way a lot of things have happened since that time (with 2016 being an exception).
Sorry if you didnt want to hear about my problems, I just wanted to point that out because…… Europe is run by mad lefties too so… it will probably happen.
gravenimage says
Sorry to hear this, Rob–it is sadly not uncommon.
Wellington says
The Left, Rob R, as it seems clear to me you already know, is worse than Islam, because minus the idiocy of Leftthink the West could easily deal with that massively failed part of the world which is the Islamic sphere of mankind.
This is why for a long time I have thought of Islam as the second greatest scourge to what remains of the free portion of the world. #1 is the chief enemy within, i.e. Leftism. Coming in third place in this iniquitous trinity is your standard authoritarianism as exhibited, for example, by the thugs who run China.
And sorry to learn that even part of your family is batty. I have thankfully been spared this (e.g., every adult member of my extended family voted for Trump in 2016). Talk about adding salt to the wounds in your case. You have my sympathy.
Rob R (Brit stuck in Britainistan) says
Yes I know. It’s true the only way they could possibly be hurting us or threatening us is because of problems on our side – i.e. gullible, suicidal or insane people being at the controls of power (the most important of those “controls” is the media, with lots of insane twisted people who work in the media, who have spent years putting out biased reports on Islam and international affairs in general). That’s a thought I had long ago. I sometimes forget it because it’s hard to see the difference between them any more, it’s like they’re merging into one giant feral blob.
It turns out that having Trump elected didn’t magically make all those messed up people go away, in fact it just made them more determined. In my view the media turned the bias and bullshit up to 11, it just made them more mad and insane.
If Trump wasn’t anti-Islam there’s no way he would have been elected (that truth is the complete opposite of what the media said about his statements at the time) but now he seems to have completely forgotten about it, and us.
Why? Just because a Muslim hasn’t shot up a gay club within the last 6 months? I am starting to see his election as a false dawn, I would like to see Republicans protesting and asking him why he hasn’t mentioned anything on Islam in so long. Or why he has done absolutely NOTHING to stop the tech companies from trying to censor us out of existence. If I was there I would be writing a letter threatening not to vote for him this time.
If you want to make me feel better you guys should be tea-partying Trump, okay? Tell him to get off his ass. I mean, I want there to still be a non-Muslim USA for me to flee to one day… right?
James Lincoln says
Excellent exchange between Wellington and Rob R.
This crazy stuff would not be happening in early post-World War II America…
Wellington says
Thanks for your reply, Rob R.
Under Trump, Muslim immigration to America is down around 90%. Trump is surrounded by enemies and must do a lot very carefully and behind the scenes. He said in March of 2016, “I think Islam hates us.” I have no reason to believe Trump has changed his mind about this but he must proceed furtively on this matter and on many other matters. His street instincts are superb and he has accomplished a lot, but no President has been so terribly treated by so many, including by some Republicans. The wonder of it is that he has gotten done as much as he has. In any case, he’s the best America has going for it right now.
Take care.
gravenimage says
+1
tim gallagher says
Dream on you Muslim wanker. As Mortimer says up above, this fantasy must be based on the bizarre belief that once Muslims grab something, invade and steal something, it remains theirs forever. They have such weird ideas about things. Any kind of rationality doesn’t come into it for their diseased view of things. Hey, Muslim maggot, your mob got kicked out of Spain centuries ago, so the cathedral is back in its rightful, Christian hands. Dream on, Muslim supremacist idiot.
gravenimage says
Tim, Erdogan in turning Hagia Sophia into a Mosque has already said that he foresees reconquering Spain:
“Erdogan: ‘Resurrection of Hagia Sophia’ heralds ‘return of freedom to al-Aqsa,’ revival of Islam Uzbekistan to Spain”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/07/erdogan-resurrection-of-hagia-sophia-heralds-return-of-freedom-to-al-aqsa-revival-of-islam-uzbekistan-to-spain
I very much doubt this is unrelated.
tim gallagher says
I hadn’t heard about Erdogan saying this about Spain, gravenimage. I suppose he can dream on all he wants with such grandiose plans. I suppose all Muslims do all the time dream of conquering the whole world for their vile, barbaric creed. It’ll never happen. Erdogan seems to have big, thuggish dreams. Isn’t it a weird mentality though, where Muslims think because they got their grubby, murderous hands on something once then they always own it. Totally illogical. Things change over time. The British Empire settled Australia but, unfortunately, I can imagine, long after I am departed from this life, a gigantic, thuggish power such as China might take Australia over. It might happen. China has over a billion people and Australia only 25 million people. Things change and neither Australia nor any other country is assured of things remaining similar to the way they are today. The Muslim idea that they have some bizarre right to something that they grabbed at one time makes zero sense. I just recalled that, years ago, a vile Sheikh out here in Australia, Sheikh Hilaly, tried to lay claim to Australia for islam because there had been a few Muslim camel drivers around way back in Australia. It was absolutely ludicrous. Hilaly seems to have been told to shut up, by the Muslims, for ages now.
gravenimage says
Erdogan wants to be the new Caliph.
black adder says
Erdogan has said a lot of things:
https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/ottomans-were-the-first-to-reach-the-moon-says-turkish-president/
tim gallagher says
black adder, thanks for that information. It is extraordinary to have a person leading a country, any country, saying such staggeringly stupid stuff. Talk about inhabiting a fantasy world with this nonsense about Muslims on the moon hundreds of years ago.
gravenimage says
Yep.
gravenimage says
UAE ruler demands ‘the return of the Mosque of Córdoba’ after Hagia Sophia conversion
……………….
This is, as noted, yet another Christian Church that Muslims want to seize.
Wellington says
The Buttlims want them all, gravenimage, but you already know this.
Just thought I’d state it for the record.
gravenimage says
So true, Wellington–and Muslims especially hate to see anyone free themselves from the Muslim heel. This is one reason why Muslims especially hate Spain.
terry sullivan says
or they burn it down–paris nantes?
owensgate says
Demands? Yeah, well, a thought came to mind when I read the article title – Demand in one hand, and put something else in the other, and see which hand fills up first.
gravenimage says
These Muslim thugs have been aggressively lobbying for years:
“Cathedral may see return of Muslims”
Centuries after Christian building was put at the centre of Córdoba’s mosque, Vatican hears Spanish appeal to allow Islamic worship there
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/apr/19/spain
Mitch Kumstein says
Take out the garbage……………….it is starting to stink…………???
Jayell says
So how long before the some muslims demand the return of the Anglican Cathedral in Gibraltar, which I believe began life as a mosque? They can then add it to their huge complex at the south end of the the Rock and then declare the whole place an islamic republic – very convenient for when they take back Spain, which, as we all know, rightfully belongs to them before it was stolen back from them by the Spanish (after the Moors had stolen it from the locals in the first place, but we wouldn’t mention that, of course).
gravenimage says
Jayell, the Cathedral of the Holy Trinity in Gibraltar was built in a “Moorish Revival” style, but it was *never* a Mosque.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_the_Holy_Trinity,_Gibraltar
European pagan says
Unbelievable. In their f…… countries they can do what they want but they don’t have the right to tell us what should we do with our buildings.
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I love Iblis says
I am not a Christian but I think this spoiled clown should know his limits. Islamic culture made from swine-shit has no business in civilized Europe.
gravenimage says
+1
Linde Barrera says
Spanish elected officials need to speak out and publicly declare that the cathedral in Cordoba is a Christian place of worship.+
Marigold says
What next?
OLD GUY says
World dominance and the destruction of western society, slavery, and the brutal death of anyone they deem a threat to their rule.
jca reid says
So, what about ALL the Synagogues, Churches etc. that were in the Arabian Peninsula, northern Africa etc. ? FFS, let’s get the proper WAR on & crush them! All they’re doing is following Sun Tzu’s ‘Art of War’. Fighting without actually fighting. Just chipping away with little petty, niggling. Start to swamp foreign lands with their ‘migration’ & petty demands. Right across Western Europe & further afield. Long overdue that tthese sh*ts were dealt with & our Apathetic Politicians in pandering to this backward, degenerate mob & their Western Apologists.
Adam naseer says
Hmm after we must be sure to conquer Jerusalem back
gravenimage says
Is this another Muslim thug who wants to destroy Israel?