From the region surrounding Montpellier, dozens of jihadis traveled ended up on battlefields in Syria and Iraq. The once sleepy, peaceful area is no longer recognizable.
Muslim no-go zones are all over Europe, and while rule of law is being trampled by hooligans, police “stand down,” as they are either ordered to do or are do so on their own out of fear for their own lives. At least the French officer who counseled use of the “Corsican method” supports citizens protecting themselves. The leaders who are supposed to be protecting the people have abandoned their responsibilities, but still live it up on tax dollars with all the benefits their titles bring to them, including security protection (which most taxpayers don’t have and of course cannot afford).
“French Cop to No-Go Zone Residents: Just Move, or Go Vigilante,” by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart, August 13, 2020:
A police officer has told residents in the no-go zone of Montpellier that if they are sick of violence and verbal abuse from local youths, they should either move or adopt the vigilante methods used in Corsica and handle their own problems.
Last Friday, residents of the Hauts de Massane district made repeated phone calls to police over incidents of youths breaking into houses and garages, stealing, throwing rocks at vehicles, and screaming profanities at inhabitants.
“I called because they started throwing rocks at the vehicles in the residence’s car park. There was a rising crescendo of screams and vulgarities,” one local said. She claimed the police responded by saying that throwing rocks was not a priority for them, France Bleu reported on Tuesday.
The officer allegedly said: “You know when you live there, you have to find out before you buy.”
“You need to have people in your residence who have the balls to go to the basement, to sort this out your own way, with the Corsican method,” the officer added, referencing vigilante justice.
Another person reported a similar encounter with police at a local police station who also recommended they move somewhere else.
“You don’t have to live there. Anyway, people are not normal in this neighbourhood. You only have to move somewhere else, and live with normal people,” the man claimed the police officer had said.
In recent months, even during the strict Chinese coronavirus lockdowns, no-go neighbourhoods across France have erupted into rioting and violence, primarily directed at police….
Frank Anderson says
It stands to some absurd reason that if the police don’t enforce the law, then there is no law to be enforced on anyone. That is exactly what happened in Germany between the lawless Communists and lawless Nazis. Law abiding Germans had no choice if they remained in Germany. Escape was the only alternative available to individuals.
As a person who long ago committed to obeying the law I regret this failure both then and now. In order for any of us to obey the law, we must survive those who do not. The common goal of all totalitarians is to destroy the neutral legal system to replace it with their arbitrary determination of what is acceptable and what is not.
Sylvia Drummond says
Using the corsican method sounds fine as long as the user does’nt get arrested for harming the aggressors. The French were always good at protesting, striking and generally making a fuss so get together frogs, form a residents army and give as good as you get. We are all with you.
Shirley Ann says
Thank you Sylvia, the Corsican Method sounds great to me, in NorthEast Florida, where we still have Police, who want to POLICE. We have BOTH THE RIOTERS& LOOTERS of BLM/ANTIFA, out in force, with Worthless Polictical Leaders, who seem to be Sympathetic to the Savages. Just a note, the Members of the Religion of Peace, have offered their help to the Domestic Terrorists groups in AMERICA. TERRORISTS, DOMESTIC & FOREIGN, WANT TO DESTROY WESTERN SOCIETY. EVERYWHERE.
gravenimage says
Actually, vigilantism is always a terrible solution–an act of desperation at best.
Kepha says
God save us from a situation in which vigilantism is necessary! I’ve known a few people who grew up in China in the early 20th century, when most of the country was subject to banditry and arlordism. The end was an effective and vicious tyranny.
LB says
You can’t always count on Big Brother government to keep you safe. Running away is an option, but not a permanent solution. The no-go zones will spread, it’s just a matter of time when they catch up to you again.
I can’t speak from experience since I have no idea what it feels like to have next-door neighbors that hate you and want to kill you for who you are (white non-muslim), but if such a thing were to happen and the police tells me I have the option to deal with it myself since they can’t do it, well… Let’s just say I have best friends who aren’t exactly always on good terms with the law who would jump into fire with me as I would for them.
The problem with vigilantism in Western Europe (and the West in general) is twofold:
1) A severe lack of real men who aren’t afraid of the consequences if it means doing the right thing.
2) Even if a group of native (white) Western men were to gather, fight the muslims in the streets and are successful, even with police’s approval, there is always the inevitable muslim crywolf specialty: “these white racists are attacking us poor innocent minorities!” which you know will garner worldwide news coverage resulting in those men getting incarcerated and indicted, as well as giving muslims EVEN MORE power and privileges over the natives, ensuring that islam is permanently rooted and its growth unopposed.
So yeah… When talking about the West, vigilantism is pretty much not an option.
spiro says
Vigilantism is not a good way to slice a problem that’s true
But sometime the lack of government action leaves no choice and from what the cop said it may be coming to that
Ewanda says
Finally …. That’s the first bit of honest advice that’s come out regarding decades of these neighborhood takeovers. Hope creative solutions can be thought of to solve this serious problem and used as a blueprint to help other no-go zones. Someone wants to break in? Picture the perp stuck to the door or window with Crazy Glue or Contact Cement …. what about Mercaptan? There’s hundreds of millions of clever people all over the world who must be able to think this through …. but then again … are not hard earned taxes going to pay for policing that is lacking?
rooare says
The problem with going vigilante is that then the police will come to arrest you.
Rufluc says
Of course they will rooare. It’s far easier for the police to take the path of least resistance, rather than face up to these invaders, who have been made a protected species that are now clearly above the law.
Vigilantes would no doubt be made up of reasonable, sane individuals who only wish to protect themselves, their loved ones and their property.
But alas, the police will no doubt be ordered by their leftist liberal elite commanders to come down on those who dare try to protect themselves by going on the offensive. The same elite that keep being voted into power by that same mind f****d electorate who are under attack from the Muslim marauders! Talk about what goes round comes around!
If they want real change, and to win back their communities, a party headed by Marine Le Penn would be the only answer. But it will probably take a few hundred thousand rapes of their daughters, a few tens of thousands of murders of their loved ones, and a further few million violent attacks on them and their loved ones for them to finally break out of the ‘leftist liberal trance’ they all seem to be in that keeps them voting for idiots like Macron!
Ewanda says
Too sad – too true
gravenimage says
Also true, rooare.
Kepha says
It looks as if Social Democrat Europe has dug for itself the same grave liberal Democratic America has dug for itself.
I hate the idea of vigilante justice. I like the idea of a protective state with a plethora of liberties to protect the ordinary folks ( even a strong monarchy or soft authoritarianism which honors thing like the Magna Carta and/or the English and American Bills of Rights. However, if our current governments continue on their self-destructive path of caving to every demand of Islam, the Far Left, and the sexual revolution, we’re going to see the advice given to the citizens of Montpelier repeated across the Western world.
James Lincoln says
Are the French police actually asking French citizens in no-go zones to emulate Paul Kersey?
Frank Anderson says
James, that certainly looks like what is being suggested. What do you think about my suggested historical parallel?
James Lincoln says
Frank Anderson,
Wellington could probably field your question a lot better than I can, but I’ll give it a try:
I think that your historical parallel is accurate.
Pre-World War II Germany, indeed, had the lawless Communists KPD along with the lawless Nazis.
The average law-abiding German citizen could either try to fight back, escape, or join the Nazis – who eventually suppressed the KPD.
And you are correct, a law is only as good as its enforcement. And law-abiding citizens must always survive those who do not obey the law.
To your point, AG William Barr recently said that lawless Antifa is engaging in “urban guerrilla warfare” the same way Lenin’s “Bolsheviks” operated in Russia. Their goal is to destroy the “neutral” legal system and replace it with totalitarianism.
Wellington says
How telling, James, that you posted one minute before I did.
You may not like what I said, but I said it from the heart (and hopefully from knowledge too). And which is why I prefer another “version” of Psalm 23, my own, to wit, “Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil ’cause I’m the meanest son-of-a bitch in the valley.” Hey, after all, even if there is a God, such an entity I am inclined to think helps people most who help themselves.
P.S. I don’t think my “version” of Psalm 23 will ever enter into an edition of the Bible, though I hope you understand why I wish it would.
On a tangential note, I know where PPP is and maybe via JW we could set up a time sometime in August or September to meet there. Would very much like doing so. Just sayin’.
curious george says
Wellington,
This version of Psalm 23 from The Dennis Prager webiste.
The New Psalm
Parrsboro Record, Nova Scotia in October 1950*
The government is my shepherd, I need not work.
It allows me to lie down on good jobs; it leadeth me
beside still factories.
It destroyeth my initiative; it leads me into paths of the
parasite for politics’ sake.
Yea, tho I walk through the valley of laziness and deficit
spending, I will fear no evil; for the government is with
me; it doles its vote getters, they comfort me.
It prepareth an economic Utopia for me by
appropriating the earnings of my grandchildren.
It filleth my head with bologna; my inefficiency runneth
over.
Surely the government shall care for me all the days of
my life, and I will dwell in a fool’s paradise forever.
*sent it by a listener. original source not confirmed
Wellington says
I agree with your assessment, Frank, but it is sadly rooted in the fact that in the face of evil the vast majority of good people, and knowing what is wrong as they do, will still do little to nothing.
So ironic, no? To wit, that arguably the greatest obstacle to evil succeeding are not the evil people themselves but the good people. Ayn Rand certainly understood this but I do think the “turn the other cheek” element of Christianity mitigates against confronting evil early on—and I have many positive views of Christianity–but not in this regard.
Put another way, I don’t want evil people coddled at all. I want them killed early on, for instance the anarchists in Portland, Oregon. But I don’t think Christians, many of whom are very good and brave people, get this PRECISELY because of the “turn the other cheek” instructive by Jesus.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
To your point, a good article appearing on the “Desiring God” website addressing why Christians do not have to be pacifists in regards to confronting true evil.
Seems balanced and well thought out, at least from my perspective.
“Did Jesus Teach Pacifism?”
https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/did-jesus-teach-pacifism
Rufolino says
“I want them killed early on.”
Horrifying language.
Wellington says
Rufolino: Those that use deadly weapons, as has occurred in Portland, Oregon (and not only are molotov cocktails deadly weapons but the setting of any fire to burn down a building constitutes such as does the throwing of rocks which can severely harm or even kill people—think of stoning from various religious literature of old) should be met with deadly force. Why would you not endorse this?
If people are truly protesting peacefully then of course here in America they should be allowed to do so completely unharmed (though blocking traffic and similar activities should be met with immediate arrest). But if you have been following what is going on in Portland, no way that has been peaceful. Then there was the incident in Chicago where dozens of police officers trying to protect a statue of Columbus had rocks, frozen water bottles, etc. thrown at them. One officer was very seriously injured and many other officers were injured enough. In NYC many police have also been seriously injured by flying debris and one officer was beaten with some type of cane Lasers have also been used by thugs to attempt to blind police personnel. With such people engaging in this kind of violent barbarism, I say shoot to kill. If this offends you, I don’t care and I have to wonder about you. Nip violent behavior in the bud early on—better all around for society at large.
Wellington says
Thank you, James, for the article by Matt Perman. It confirms for me that Christians really do struggle to reconcile some of Jesus’ teachings with other statements in the New Testament. The fact that articles like Perman’s have to be written testify to the dilemma Christians are faced with, i.e., how to reconcile engaging in violence, even if when serving the state, with the instruction by Jesus encouraging non-violence.
No doubt about it, Christian thinkers at least from Saint Augustine onward have attempted to reconcile this matter and I am sympathetic here but just as a socialist strain runs through the New Testament and thus reconciling capitalism with Christianity is sometimes difficult (for the record, I think it can be done), so is it the case with the use of force, including a private use of force like your standard fist-fight because someone has insulted you or challenged your manhood. For example, if someone insulted your wife, would Jesus be OK with knocking the guy out? Close call I think.
Well, with Islam there is no dilemma about violence and the problem with Islam is the opposite of that from Christianity, i.e., a proclivity toward violence and sanctioned by the Islamic deity. I prefer Christianity even with its ambiguous stance on violence. No contest.
Tracey Hooks says
Don’t take that scripture literally! God never intended for Christians to stand and be attacked! He merely means that we are not to retaliate in anger and hate! One problem is that there are so many fundamental legalisms being taught that it confuses New Christians and scriptures are quoted and taught wrongfully! The NT is explanation of THE OT Covenant being fulfilled! Jesus is the only way to Heaven, no longer is “the law of Moses” (following mass rituals and regulations) and personal sacrifices; the way into Heaven nor Is it the security of Gods guidance and protection while on earth! God expects All of Us to abide by the Gov’t laws he established and to accept responsibility for our actions and become accountable for our mistakes! Learn and repent! Know that we are forgiven if we accept Jesus! We are NOT Perfect but forgiven!
Christians DO believe in The Death Penalty! We also believe in LAW AND ORDER! We do not accept vigilante tactics, but believe that all criminals must face punishment and repentance for their criminal acts!
Unfortunately, what is happening across America’s Large cities…is A purposeful and deliberate act that has been organized and taking place right under our noses, by the extreme progressive Democrat party! THIS PARTY is being influenced by extremists of the Islam faith through Radical Muslims that have integrated themselves into our Country!
Along with George Soros and Other Non Americans, these (Muslim Brotherhood) & RADICAL Progressive Dems (ACTUALLY COMMUNISTS/ MARXISTS) Are pulling out every trick in the book!
These people: the Democrat Mayors, DA’S, City Council & Governors of these Cities & States, are all in chaos, destruction, & are bankrupted! But not by accident, nor the death of George Floyd! This is a uprising and revolutionary tactic to overthrow the very Gov’t, these Elected officials swore an oath to protect and serve! Their allegiance is not to America! They are all using their powers in office to destroy the American Justice system America depends on! They already became sanctuary cities, abolished bail, released mass violent criminals, and are now in the process of tearing down the jails and rebuilding wellness centers for criminals to have a place to come talk with social workers and counselors when they feel violent! Really? They want NO ACCOUNTABILITY, NO JAILS, NO POLICE! NO BORDER CONTROL, NO ICE! They want chaos and a communist dictatorship in America with The Democrat and China partnered together to rule over the world!
These anarchists all adopt the 1619 project which it’s writer has even denounced as truth, but they support it because it fits their narrative! All the violent crime & BLM/ANTIFA TERRORISM…Was brought into these cities BY THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS! They are all BLM MEMBERS & have no qualms admitting it!
In Portland, it’s one of the City Council who have the huge backing of BLM and the Juvenile League of …whatever, (a Worldwide group of Lost kids with no purpose in life and no parents who pay attention to their hate for our country). She has them contacting city officials Via emails everyday, texting and making demands as if they’re residents, DEMANDING TO ABOLISH THE POLICE! And, Threatening them! So they caved! But it wasn’t residents, it was KIDS ALL LED BY ONE CITY COUNCIL OFFICIAL! They also went one step further and. Are pushing the Mayor who also is in on this scam, to Fire the current Police Chief Commissioner and appoint this radical BLM City councilor in his place!
In Atlanta, Mayor Bottoms has purposely charged 4 white officers who followed the book in officer training with murder and felony assault for others! She was the ONE who originally set up the first riots in Atlanta in May and had kept them going, along with every other Democrat official across America!
The only way to stop this madness is ti VOTE OUT every Democrat and have them charged with Treason! And YES, we CHRISTIANS DO WANT TO SEE JUSTICE SERVED!!
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonjour Frank et Lincoln,
The cop would have say that. If that indeed was the case, these words are obviously not supported by the French police https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/faits-divers-justice/vous-n-avez-qu-a-habiter-ailleurs-repond-un-policier-aux-habitants-victimes-de-vandalisme-a-1597078083.
Stay well
Amitiés
Frank Anderson says
Kevin, I read the article with the help of a translator program in English. I am happy that I live where I do and have the right to defend myself and family. Not only do I have the right, I have the means even at my age and poor health. Not only do I, but so also do my neighbors. And the local police support that right. If that kind of violence happened here there would be a bloodbath which the police would cheerfully investigate and clean up. It may happen elsewhere as daily news reports show. But not here.
Until that last few decades, every civilization has recognized the right and duty of self defense including having and using the means to make that right reality, weapons. But the socialist mantra, that I am an idiot who must depend on you to make all my decisions and protect me from everything does not work. I hope you will watch the Michael York movie Logan’s Run to see where socialism leads.
Always peace and best wishes to you. Frank
DearDiary says
Like little civil wars. And the cleanup costs plus insurance deductibles and prosthetic limbs are like little public betrayals of the agreement made with taxpayers. And as an insult to their intelligence the truth about the situation is denied by the morons overseeing these pretend Caliphates. An angry Muslim drug dealer and his little rag tag but deadly army of hardcore ass kissers is eerily similar to the conditions under which Islam was born.
Clive Delmonte says
Unbelievable. In ten years’ time, looking back, we shall be glad we left the EU.
gravenimage says
French cops in Muslim no-go zone: ‘You only have to move somewhere else’ or go vigilante
……………………
This is *unbelievable*. What are police for, if not to protect their own citizens?
More:
“You don’t have to live there. Anyway, people are not normal in this neighbourhood. You only have to move somewhere else, and live with normal people,” the man claimed the police officer had said.
……………………
Of course, likely many cannot afford to move–especially if they own their home in a No Go Zone. Who would buy their home? Only the naive and ignorant or else more ravening Muslims, who would expect a bargain from the fleeing Infidels.
This will, of course, only make this more and more of a No Go Zone.
As for most of the residents of this neighborhood not being normal, he means that they are Muslims. Such cringing dhimmitude is only going to further embolden these invaders–and more and more of France will become abnormal.
Wellington says
+1
Frank Anderson says
GI, we have discussed the DC case, decided by the local equivalent of other states’ supreme courts where it was decided the police have NO DUTY to protect individuals. That case does not apply in France; but is shows how governmental indifference to individuals’ lives, health safety and property is rampant. I was given the name of the case a few months ago, and have forgotten again. But at least I do remember the defendant party was the District of Columbia and the appellate court was not the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, a federal court, but the DC Court of Appeals, a local court.
Under this case, which seems to be the same in all US jurisdictions, police can watch us be murdered without taking action, and then be immune from any claim by our survivors. Something is wrong with paying a person who takes an oath to uphold the law and then giving the power to pick and choose which laws to enforce.
gravenimage says
I know about this ruling, Frank–but I consider this ruling *wrong*, and believe most other civilized Westerners would, as well.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I despise this ruling. We agree that it is a betrayal of our understanding of the duties which should be accepted when putting on a badge, picking up a firearm and claiming a paycheck for enforcing the law; but that is the law in the US. They have NO DUTY to us to protect us from anything. Their duty is to society, not individuals. The case is Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981, I just found it by searching District of Columbia police duty. The result offends me.
Frank Anderson says
GI, even more: Westlaw shows more cases from state and federal courts ruling the same way. So far I have found none to the contrary. One particularly egregious case is Gallashaw v. City of Philadelphia, 774 F.Supp 2d 713 (E.D. Pa. 2011), where the plaintiff was beaten and arrested at a bus stop. The officer was served and failed to answer, but the plaintiff failed to claim a default. The city moved for summary judgement which was granted, It is worth remembering that state officers are liable for their violations under Hafer v. Melo, 502 U.S 21 (1991), While the department may be shielded under some circumstances, the individual officers are not. What do you think?. ALWAYS, sincere best wishes. Frank
gravenimage says
Yes–this ruling is sickening. Police protecting citizens should *always* be the first responsibility of police, with only a few caveats for reasonable personal safety.
wpm says
+1 Gravenimage
As you move from one French village to another the “no-go” zone grow and eat up one village at a time until the whole country is a no go zone .Until the non-Muslim public start to vote in leaders who uphold law ,order for all ,they will suffer at weak knee appeasing leaders who worry about the Muslim block vote.Being “tolerant of all different cultures” and “political correct” are death sentences when the different cultures very foundations are based on making you a slave to them or murdering you because you are not a member of their cult.
gravenimage says
True, wpm–if no one in authority acts to stop these Muslim No Go Zones, they will indeed spread.
frederick gibson says
Islam does not come to integrate or assimilate.
Islam comes only to: Conquer, Submit, Convert, or Kill.
Giacomo Latta says
”You need to have people in your residence who have the balls to go to the basement, to sort this out your own way, with the Corsican method”
Could we have that in writing?
gravenimage says
Good question…my guess would be “no”.
SB says
NO MORE MUSLIMS! NO MORE!
UVG says
Dar al kuffr.(land of the infidel): Regimes where the infidel holds power and infidels live in majority.
(This is a targetting protocol and actually not part of Islamic taxonomy)
Dar al Sulh.(land of cease fire): Not yet Islamic Regimes where a limited armistice exists with Islam.
Dar al Harb(land of the sword): Not yet Islamic Regimes which will soon become islamic by subjecting rulers to submission.
Dar al Islam(land of voluntary submission): A land free of infidels.
India is Dar al Harb. Recently it has attempted to turn into Dar al Sulh. Where do you place your country on this spectrum of Islamic categorisation?