When Diarmuid Martin thinks of Abraham, he probably thinking of Genesis 22:15-18, in which Abraham is rewarded for his faith and told he will become a blessing to the nations: “by your descendants shall all the nations of the earth bless themselves, because you have obeyed my voice.”
But his Muslim friends don’t read Genesis. They read the Qur’an. Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice his son (who is not named) is recounted in 37:102-109. Islamic tradition holds that the son Abraham sacrificed was Ishmael, and that the Bible’s saying he was Isaac is more evidence of the Bible’s corruption. Martin is inadvertently reinforcing that view by participating in this event.
Even worse, in sura 60, Allah says that Abraham is an “excellent example” (uswa hasana, أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ, a term applied also to Muhammad in 33:21) for the believers when he tells his pagan family and people that “there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever, unless ye believe in Allah and him alone” (v. 4). The same verse goes on to say that Abraham is not an excellent example when he tells his father, “I will pray for forgiveness for you.” Hatred is held up as exemplary; forgiveness is explicitly declared to be not exemplary.
Martin was thus reinforcing a worldview that takes for granted the legitimacy of everlasting enmity and hatred between Muslims and non-Muslims — and doing so precisely in the context of trying to build bridges between Muslims and non-Muslims.
More of my comments below.
“Prelate Joins Muslim Feast Falsifying Bible,” by Jules Gomes, ChurchMilitant.com, July 31, 2020:
DUBLIN (ChurchMilitant.com) – Ireland’s top prelate joined Muslims in celebrating a key Islamic festival which falsifies the Bible by declaring that the patriarch Abraham took Ishmael, not Isaac, to be sacrificed on Mount Moriah.
Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, who denounced a Dublin church for offering public Masses during the Wuhan virus lockdown, showed solidarity Friday with 200 Muslims observing Eid al-Adha at the iconic Croke Park Stadium.
Despite Abp. Martin being invited in advance, the communications officer for the Irish Catholic Bishops’ Conference, Martin Long, told Church Militant Tuesday they were “not aware of any details for this event or of any bishops attending.”
A source informed Church Militant earlier that the news was being kept “under wraps.”
Wearing face masks and maintaining social distancing, the worshippers rolled out their prayer mats on the same football grass pitch which hosted Pope Francis on his visit to Ireland in 2018.
“Today marks a new chapter in the history of Croke Park,” Abp. Martin said. “Today our celebration is a gesture of recognizing publicly the place of the Muslim community as an integral part of the family of the Irish and to recognize the contribution of your Muslim community to the Ireland of today and to the Ireland of tomorrow.”
Double Standard Cited
Speaking to Church Militant, eminent Islamic scholar Robert Spencer lamented that while “the Catholic faithful still are in many places deprived of the sacraments and subject to immense and unprecedented restrictions on their worship, the bishops wouldn’t dare miss an Islamic celebration.”
“It is all the more unconscionable that they would be celebrating Eid al-Adha, the day on which Muslims sacrifice animals in honor of Abraham sacrificing Ishmael — not Isaac,” Spencer noted.
“This story is yet another instance of Islam correcting Judaism and Christianity and holding the Judeo-Christian tradition to be corrupted and erroneous,” he explained.
Spencer, author of over 22 books on Islam, elaborated:
What’s more, the Qur’anic Abraham says there will be “animosity and hatred” (Qur’an 60:4) between the Muslims and non-Muslims until the non-Muslims believe in Allah alone. The Abraham of Genesis, the “father of many nations,” is inverted into a symbol of hatred and supremacism. And the bishops are complacently reinforcing these attitudes.
Church of Ireland Anglican primate Abp. Michael Jackson, who joined Martin in the Islamic celebration, said the “silence” created by the pandemic and the lockdown has been filled with the sounds of “neighborliness.”
“The unknown person next door became a neighbor. Care quickly began to go both ways. While many of us had been taught from our youth that it is more blessed to give than to receive, we all learned the positive lesson of humility and of otherness to the effect that it is just as blessed to receive as to give,” he observed.
Ignoring the cognitive dissonance between the Old Testament and the Qur’an in marking the Muslim festival, Jewish Rabbi Zalman Lent said that, at a time of so much anti-Muslim and anti-Semitic feeling, “it is special we can all sit here together … as brothers.”
“This disgraceful event shows the priorities of the Catholic hierarchy today and of leftist clerics in general. Islam is the preferred religion of the Left, and that holds true even when the leftists in question are clerics of different faiths,” Spencer remarked….
Mike says
Pretty sure all the holy books have were changed to reflect the ideas of those in power at the time.
You only have to compare the original Aramaic of Jesus own words to see the meaning was changed to match up with a very contradictory Old Testament version of God…. Jesus didn’t say Father, but Birther. ABWOON.
gravenimage says
Muslims claim that Jews and Christians “corrupted” their scripture, which was (supposedly) just as ugly as the Qur’an. There is obviously no evidence for this, but Muslims are willing to murder Christians and Jews over this.
Harryagain says
The bible was amended and edited at the Synods of Antioch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synods_of_Antioch
gravenimage says
Deciding not to include some apocrypha does not mean that the Bible used to be just like the foul Qur’an.
FYI says
There is something people are missing here in regards to the Bible:the source of Wisdom behind it.
knowledge and wisdom are different things.The koran has erroneous ‘knowledge’ in it but has no Wisdom source.
This source of Wisdom is missing in islam and the koran.
ALL Biblical prophecies come through this source and cannot have been altered.
ALL 4 Gospels {matthew,mark.luke,john}came through this Wisdom source and were not simply written down by humans.
Of course the Bible has been translated many times but the Wisdom source{manifested at the time of Christ as a gift} has never changed.The Law of the 2chief commandments and the Decalogue is the SAME.
This Wisdom is called the Holy Spirit:it is the Wisdom behind the Bible and is discernible in the OT and NT.It is not in the koran.
{In fact in allah’s EPIC misunderstanding of the Trinity he has MARY in it k5:116:but note the Holy Spirit is missing in islam}
The “law of Moses and the teachings of all the prophets ” revealed in the OT{=the 2 chief commandments of Deut 6:4-9,Lev19:18+Decalogue of Exodus 20} was carried forward into the NT so the foundation laws are the same in Judaism and Christianity.
Yet the ‘holy’ koran does NOT conform to these laws and is missing the Wisdom source found in the Bible:THAT is why the koran is full of errors and why there are HOLES IN THE NARRATIVE
The Bible has the PRESENCE of the Holy Spirit
The koran shows the ABSENCE of the Holy Spirit
The ‘scholars’ of islam cannot see thatThey have a certain knowledge alright but they have no wisdom.I have even heard them laugh at the Holy Spirit which makes me laugh because if they had such Wisdom they would not be so deluded into thinking Christians are polytheists
Peter Carroll says
What makes you so “pretty sure”, that ALL the holy books have been changed? Where is your evidence?
Also, the words of Jesus as recorded in the New Testament were, like all the New Testament, written originally in, Greek.
mortimer says
The Koran is a frontal assault on over 90% of essential Christian teachings. If the bishops don’t know that they are not doing their theological job. They are singing kumbaya, rather than doing the hard intellectual-theological analysis that is their duty.
The Koran is predominantly an attack on Christianity and a death warrant for Jews and Christians who resist Islamic rule.
The bishops have been suckered. They have been duped.
Peggy Sue says
You’re too kind. They knowingly betray their flock. And the worst person is that so-called pope. The fish always rots from the head.
A disgraceful spectacle.
gravenimage says
Bishop Martin likely knows nothing about Islam.
RichardL says
his position on anything is the same: let’s not advocate too strongly for the Church. He should be a simple priest, not a bishop.
mortimer says
Al Walaa wal Baraa is the Islamic essential doctrine of hatred directed by Muslims against the kafirs. Muslims are required to hate kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’ in order to achieve Islamic paradise.
http://westindanger.com/wb/walaa-baraa.html
mortimer says
The bishops of Ireland should be working together on a program to deprogram and evangelize Muslims in all countries as well as in Ireland.
CogitoErgoSum says
The top priority of any bishop should be bringing the message of Christ to all the people. The bishop errs when he speaks of the Muslim community as an “integral part of the family of the Irish” and of the “contribution of your Muslim community to the Ireland of today and to the Ireland of tomorrow.” The Irish community and all communities are called to be a part of the mystical body of Christ. Muslims DO NOT and NEVER have contributed to such a community. In actual practice they seek to tear it apart and, in fact, to KILL it.
No dialogue between Christians and Muslims should take place that does not include a discussion of the place of Jesus in the community. Let the discussion include Muhammad’s own words regarding Jesus and particularly Muhammad’s prophecy that Jesus would one day return to break all the crosses, abolish the Jizya and to kill all the Christians who refuse to become Muslims. Explain this to us, you Muslims, and explain how your murderous version of Jesus will be able to abrogate the words of Allah without being a prophet sent by Allah. Then explain how Muhammad was the final prophet, the “Seal of the Prophets” and that no other prophet will come after him. Explain to everyone how Muhammad did not contradict himself if the prophet Jesus is to come after Muhammad. Explain away the lies of Muhammad and condemn yourselves to spend eternity in Hell or accept that the Bible contains the Truth about Jesus and that He and only He is the Gate through which all must pass to enter into eternal Life.
When you say the Mass, Bishop, and you ask for forgiveness for what you have done and what you have failed to do, remind yourself that bringing this message to the Muslims is something you have failed to do.
GreekEmpress says
Being in a Covid 19 hot zone, it’s been necessary to watch Liturgy on tv. I can’t tell you how heartened I was this morning to hear a fearless priest come out and decry the recent attacks on churches and tell the people to stand up and protect them, and fight for our religious freedoms. It was good to know that there must be priests out there (besides my own) that have not succumbed to all this one way interfaith, kumbayah one-way “dialogue”.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
PRCS says
Here’s how CNN describes Eid al-Adha:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/world/eid-pandemic-scli-intl/index.html
What is Eid al-Adha, and how is it being celebrated during the pandemic?
“To commemorate God’s test of Ibrahim, many Muslim families have an animal slaughtered — often through their local butcher”
*The article’s authors really mean Allah, of course, but….
gravenimage says
Muslims often murder these animals in the street:
“Dhaka streets run red with blood during Eid-al-Adha”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRoMeVGr0JM
PRCS says
Not something CNN wants to make known.
john smith says
Having been a vegetarian for most of life, I find this video particularly appalling.
Though I have nothing against people who do consume meat, it’s the manner in which these poor defenceless animals are slaughtered I find sickening.
It’s as if the derive a sadistic pleasure from watching these animals struggling, and dying in extreme pain.
No civilised person could watch these executions, without feeling some sort of compassion towards the animals.
Many muslims are devoid of empathy, they have been nurtured from babies with hatred in there hearts.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, John.
FYI says
These Whited Sepulches have CHOSEN to be duped.
Martin the ‘catholic’ missed {through ignorance or moral blindness}koran 9:30 CURSING Christians for believing in Jesus and Christians and Jews being referred to as ‘The WORST of created beings” koran 98:6
Jackson the Anglican missed
“Oh ye who believe! take not the Jews and Christians for friends ,they are friends to one another” koran 5:51,islam’s Doctrine of HATE.”neighborliness”?Not in islam.
Truly this is the age of the cowardly Judas Priests;martin and jackson should take off and burn their collars as they are a disgrace to Christians in their moral cowardice.
Jewish rabbi zalman Lent:i see he missed sahih muslim 6985{islam’s paln for the Jews},the Jews are ‘to be despised and hated” koran 2:65
He must think,like the christians,that allah is the same as YHWH.What a fool!
“Brothers”?the koran says Jews are ‘the WORST of created beings’ koran 98:6 and are to be ‘despised and hated’ koran 2:65 “Brothers”?You are not brothers to muslims.
Most likely these ‘christians’ and the rabbi never read the koran:so READ IT.
I happen to know that this event was DEEPLY DEEPLY offensive to many as Croke park is indeed ICONIC to the Irish so to have the christian-hating muslims say their ‘fatihas’,their muslim ‘prayers’ in such a place and collared Christ-betraying hypocrites like Martin and Jackson pandering to them only added to the grave insult.
Croke park is symbolic of the Irish nation:and the muslims are ‘praying’ there.It is not a coincidence.
No one has done more to undermine what remains of Irish catholicism than Martin {francis’s boy}and his collared cronies in the Christ-betraying Irish Catholic Hierarchy
Churches remain closed:many won’t come back.
Martin ,the whitest of whited sepulchres did that and yet he panders to the muslims!
Thanks for posting this about croke park.
Martin says
UK – Boris Johnson Extending his Eid al Adha Wishes To British Muslims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dii_W_0XvLo
Martin says
CANADA – Prime Minister Trudeau delivers a message on Eid al-Adha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfKin6z7pAE
E T says
And by all means the feckless fool Justine would like Canadians to remember Imam Mazin Abdul-Adhim, living in London, Ontario, our Canadian Leader of Hibz-ut-Tharir, the off shoot terror group of the Muslim Brotherhood hoods says “Canadian soldiers are war criminals and Muslims owe Canada nothing”.
“The Islamic Nation will unite under a single sincere Islamic leadership and will be fully restored under complete Muslim control, and there is nothing the lying, FEARMONGERING scum of the capitalist elite can do about it”.
E T says
More Manic Muslims living in Canada:
Imam Younus Kathrada, Victoria, BC
“Humiliate the unbelievers and polytheists and destroy the enemies of Islam, the heretics and the atheists. Beseech Devine aid in granting victory to those waging jihad on your path in every place and in granting them victory over their enemies and your enemies”.
Dad Al-Ihsan Islamic Center
“Jews are brothers of monkeys and swine”.
Martin says
USA – HOUSTON – Mayor’s Eid Al Adha 2020 Message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIBJwCwqp2Y
PRCS says
No matter where or who delivers them (former UK PM Theresa May, our President, the Houston Mayor, Canadian politicians), IMO the ONLY reason for these Islamopandering messages is ‘the vote'”
Do they really think that nonsense will encourage their Muslim constituents to vote for ‘filthy unbelievers’?
What, beyond the typical ‘religion of peace’ pap, do they actually know about Islamic law?
Martin says
AMERICA IN URDU – Eid Ul Adha and Qurbani in America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJNgA2lyyss
gravenimage says
Poor animals.
Here is more horrifying Muslim animal abuse:
“Animal shelter in Tunisia stormed by thugs who ‘pushed nails into dog’s eyes, force-fed them bleach and beat pups’”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12269341/dog-shelter-massacre-tunisia/
Unsurprisingly, this shelter is run by charitable English people.
Martin says
Happy Eid Ul Adha Mubarak | Goat Sacrifice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np9Al7zIcpo
E T says
Sellout of the century perhaps
Martin says
Eid al adha …. most likely in Pakistan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNnw0f5RunU
PRCS says
Idiots.
Martin says
MOROCCO – Royal palace – Mohammed VI – eid al adha 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REZHkCVy9r8
Martin says
oops, sorry, wrong link …
EID AL ADHA 2020 – Royal Palace + King Mohammed VI :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7QaZCuZEHQ
Martin says
EID AL ADHA – 2020 – in GAZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWN5jl7txlA
gravenimage says
*Horrifying*, Martin. Bloody barbarians. Bloodletting is one of the few things that makes them happy. Poor beasts.
And they do the same with human victims. Not long ago “Palestinian” Muslims attacked an Israeli soldier, tore his heart out, and ate it.
God, I hate Islam.
gravenimage says
And so much for the lie that Shari’ah slaughter cares for the animals. Look at these brutal thugs abusing and deliberately terrifying these creatures.
Wellington says
Certainties in this world are few and far between but here’s one of them: Never count on Muslims joining with Christians in celebrating Easter.
rooare says
+1
Jayell says
Not only don’t muslims join Christians at major Christian festivals, they have been known to ramp their murderous and destructive terrorist activities against churches at these times. Also, given the clear anti-Christian evidence on islam, there should be NO dialogue whatsoever between muslims and Christians.
gravenimage says
Yes–remember the Jihad terrible attack on Churches in Sri Lanka at Easter.
E T says
Sayyid Qutb, the revered Islamic scholar said:
“The chasm between Islam and Jahiliyyah is great, and a bridge is NOT to be built across it so that the people of the two sides may mix with each other, but only so the people of the Jahiliyyah may come over to Islam”.
“The foremost duty of Islam in the world is to depose Jahiliyyah from the leadership of man, and to take the leadership into its own hands and ENFORCE a particular way of life which is a permanent feature “.
Islam CANNOT accept any mixing with Jahiliyyah, either in its concept or in the modes of living which are derived from this concept. EITHER ISLAM WILL REMAIN, OR JAHILIYYAH. Islam cannot accept or agree to a situation which is half-Islam and half-Jahiliyyah. in this respect Islam’s stand is very clear. It says that the truth is one and cannot be devised; if it is not the truth, then it must be falsehood. The MIXING and CO-EXISTENCE Of the truth and falsehood is IMPOSSIBLE. command belongs of God, or otherwise Jahiliyyah; God’s Shari’ah will prevail, or else people’s desires”.
“ No political system or material power should put hindrances in the way of preaching Islam. It should leave every individual free to accept or reject it, and if someone wants to accept it, it should not prevent him or fight against him. If someone does this, then it is the DUTY OF ISLAM TO FIGHT AGAINST HIM UNTIL EITHER HE IS KILLED OR UNTIL HE DECLARES HIS SUBMISSION”.
All the so-called learned men in the world seem to be missing the ability to sort out exactly what Islam stands for. Imams and Muslim groups will tell you “ Islam is NOT compatible with democracy”.
Many religious leaders, the press and the likes of Justine Trudeau will tell you “ Islam is not incompatible with Western secular democracy”
The Marxist Revolutionary Movement wants to abolish prison, police, capitalism, Christianity …………..
CogitoErgoSum says
Indeed, Marxism wants to abolish all other gods except for the state (no religion). Islam wants its god to be the head of the state (submission to one religion). Christianity wants its god and the state to be separate but not to work against each other (freedom for ALL religions). Any country which wishes to give its citizens the freedom of choice over which god they worship AND how they are governed must follow the path of separation of religion and government. This is because man is a creature with a dual nature, one physical and one spiritual, neither of which can exist together in harmony unless both are free.
Police and prison will continue to exist under Marxism, Islam and Christianity but would you rather be held captive by a police force that believes you are guilty until proven innocent or one that adheres to the belief that you are innocent until proven guilty and that the police should treat you as they themselves would wish to be treated? Christianity strives to insure that all men are treated equally. Marxism and Islam do not.
I love Iblis says
I hope the man made poop fake francis will be the last pope to sit on the cursed vatican. Every smart person knows that Islam was invented by Catholic Church to exterminate Jews and real Christians. For example the first person that said Muhammad is a prophet was a Catholic priest (Waraqah Ibn Nawfal). His first wife Khatijah was also a devout Catholic. The Creator will punish the Catholic Church for their evil lies.
Wellington says
“Every smart person knows that Islam was invented by the Catholic Church to exterminate Jews and real Christians.”
Ah, where to begin, that is the question.
CogitoErgoSum says
I think the commentor’s name speaks for itself and says it all, Wellington.
gravenimage says
I love Iblis wrote:
I hope the man made poop fake francis will be the last pope to sit on the cursed vatican. Every smart person knows that Islam was invented by Catholic Church to exterminate Jews and real Christians…
………………
Good lord, what ugly tosh.
For one thing, according to Islamic texts, the “Prophet” met Waraqah Ibn Nawfal exactly *once*–the frail elderly scholar died the following week.
He did give his stamp of approval to his cousin’s preaching–but this is *far* from his having “invented Islam”.
Moreover, there is no indication that he was Catholic–the only reference in the texts of Islam is to his being a “convert to Christianity”. In fact, most Christians in Arabia at the time belonged to various fringe sects, and the Catholic authorities had little influence of any kind there.
Then, the “Prophet” soon turned to murderous ‘ethnic’ cleansing of Christians there, so the claim that Catholics created Islam for some unknown purpose makes no sense at all. It was Catholics who kept Europe largely safe from Islamic conquest for centuries. No one here would be free today if they had not.
Stephen J says
This is a joke. The vatican has been rewriting the Bible for years and now they want to say its corrupted? This is why I stick with the King James Bible! I BELIEVE the Bible, the Scriptures of the Old Testament and the New Testament, preserved for us in the Masoretic text (Old Testament) Textus Receptus (New Testament) and in the King James Bible, is verbally and plenarily inspired of God. It is the inspired, inerrant, infallible, and altogether authentic, accurate and authoritative Word of God, therefore the supreme and final authority in all things (II Tim. 3:16-17; II Peter 1:21; Rev. 22:18-19).
James Lincoln says
Stephen J,
The King James Bible is also my “go- to” Bible.
It is also gracefully poetic, the best example that I can think of is the 23rd Psalm…
Wellington says
Actually, Stephen J, the Vulgate remains the official version of the Bible For the Roman Catholic Church. It dates from Saint Jerome who was born around 340 AD and died in 420 AD. He was a master at languages and translated all of the books of the Old Testament and New Testament into Latin. Jerome used both the Greek Septuagint version of the Old Testament (the oldest version of the OT that exists though it is in translation) as well as consulting the original Hebrew. He consulted previous Latin translations of the New Testament as well as the original Greek (the Gospel of Matthew may have originally been written in Aramaic but, if so, Jerome would not have had access to this). There have been revisions of the Vulgate, for instance in the 13th century, but the Vulgate remains the standard, official version of the Catholic Church to this day.
One may question whether the Vulgate is the most authoritative Biblical text but to assert that the Catholic Church “has been rewriting the Bible for years” is simply not an accurate statement.
James Lincoln says
Thanks for the added information, Wellington.
gravenimage says
+1
Marigold says
Everyone knows that it was Isaac that Abraham intended to sacrifice. Ishmael was the illegitimate son of the maid servant Hagar whom Sara gave her permission for Abraham to have a son by when Sara thought she was barren.Then God performed a miracle and Sara conceived in her old age and gave birth to Isaac so it is logical that Abraham considered Isaac to be the bigger sacrifice to offer to God. Then of course Islam is short on logic
As for Bishop Martin he should not be attending Islamic prayers at all. His presence was a disgrace.