The DW headline says “clashes break out,” but as you can see from the article, what really happened was that a SIAN member ripped pages from the Qur’an and spat upon them, whereupon counter-protesters began throwing eggs and attacked a police van. People in the West who should know better will blame SIAN for this, displacing the blame from Muslims, as is so often done. In reality, one controls one’s own reactions, and is responsible for them. You may think that the SIAN member who ripped the Qur’an is a rude lout, or a racist, bigoted “Islamophobe.” But that gives you no license to commit acts of violence, and that violence is the responsibility of those who commit and no one else.
“Norway: Clashes break out at anti-Islam rally,” by Rebecca Staudenmaier, DW, August 30, 2020:
Clashes broke out at an anti-Islam rally in the Norwegian capital of Oslo on Saturday, prompting authorities to end the event early.
The rally, organized by the group Stop Islamization of Norway (SIAN), took place near the parliament building.
Hundreds of counter-protesters also gathered, banging drums and chanting “No racists in our streets,” reported news agency DPA.
The situation came to a head when a female member of SIAN ripped pages from the Quran and spat on them, news agency NTB reported.
The woman, who has previously been charged and acquitted of hate speech, told counter-protesters: “Look, now I will desecrate the Quran.”
Nearly 30 arrested
Clashes then erupted, with counter-protesters throwing eggs at SIAN members and attempting to jump police barricades.
Some counter-protesters also began kicking a police van and climbing on the hood of the vehicle….
The protest in Norway comes on the heels of a similar incident in the Swedish city of Malmo on Friday, where protesters clashed with police after right-wing extremists burned a copy of the Quran.
Thomas F Mills says
Bring their so called bible actually written by a defrocked Coptic our way. Well rip up that
Phony quran and urinate on it
gravenimage says
Is this more blaming of Christians for the horrors of Islam? This is one I hadn’t heard–and can find no information on. But it is baseless, in any case–Islam has nothing morally in common with Islam.
mortimer says
The Norwegian leftards are deceived to believe that Islam is a race, rather than a political ideology.
I believe that the freedom of expression is meaningless without someone trying to use it and using it successfully.
For that reason, the government of Norway has a duty to protect those who burn holy books as a way to express their views.
I do not agree with gratuitously upsetting people, but this is a matter of principle.
gravenimage says
Agree on all points, Mortimer.
PRCS says
“The Norwegian leftards are deceived to believe that Islam is a race, rather than a political ideology”
Have they ALL been so deceived? I’d wager that many of them label it a race because that ‘moves the ball’ in the desired direction.
Ewanda says
Stopping Islamization has to finally start somewhere. There is certainly enough accurate information available and publicized to justify why it is the right move to insure the future survival of Mankind – rather than the Islamic Blueprint for Last Man Standing.
Seems that tearing pages from the book to show opposition to Islamization is pretty tame compared with Islam invading towns and villages, torturing and slaughtering every non-Muslim in sight as is happening all over the world, especially in Nigeria. It is particularly fitting that it was a woman who showed her disdain for the Ideology considering the plight of women under Islam. I hope she is kept in safety and her forthrightness is appreciated by her fellow countrymen.
FYI says
“Counter protestors gathered,banging drums and chanting ‘No racists on our streets'”
“Counter protestors”:Let me guess?Virtue-signalling,smelly,unwashed Leftist trash?
OUR streets?Who says they own the streets?
The Lefties.Apparently THEY own the streets.
Opposing islamization does not imply racism as islam isn’t a race {nor does it make one a fascist}
As usual, most of the violence comes from the Lefties and the muslims{It is that RED-GREEN AXIS thing}
The violent ‘religion of peace’ and the intolerant thuggery of the Leftards who think they are opposing intolerance:The Irony is likely to be lost on them.
I see they came with a ready supply of eggs.So they planned violence…as it was hardly a cooking competition they were attending.
antifa,those Leftist Fascists,might claim to be ideologically opposed to fascism via their Leftardism,but their behavior is 100% fascist:’antifascist fascists’.They should be proscribed as a Leftist Fascist Terror front.
Law and order must prevail.
FYI says
BTW
The good people of Larimer County ,Colorado drove those antifa thugs out of their town
{ see on You Tube Colorado city runs out antifa }
They were guided out by people on horseback and as the leftists thugs were leaving the residents shouted at them ‘Pick up your trash’
Now that is the way to do.In style.Run ’em out of town.
{I trust they washed the streets afterwards:i mean you don’t know where those smelly lefty Fascists have been do you?}
FYI says
And let’s not forget the Sturgis motorcycle rally.
Yes..antifa went there too.
The cops had to escort them to safety….
Picking on Bikers has to be one of the dumbest things anyone can do.
{see on You Tube antifa idiot kicks bike at Sturgis rally}
Who goes to a Biker rally and kicks their bikes?How nuts is that?
antifa
That is almost as dumb as muhammed eating meat which he KNEW was poisoned and dying in agony after years of pain.Well maybe, if he knew it was poisoned he should not have eaten it D’uh.And the great ‘prophet’ didn’t see THAT coming..
PRCS says
“Who goes to a Biker rally and kicks their bikes?How nuts is that?”
Nuts, nuts, definitely nuts.
Here’s that link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YJeUn8T-gs
Apparently forgot he wasn’t in Portland.
Martin says
OSLO – AUG 29 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23On0JoqRRY
Martin says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfM0XTcrFXI
Red Pill says
Disgusting muslims, disgusting how they are all recording to share in social networks and also disgusting how many native are just laughing at their own police being destroyed.
curious says
I think I heard some ‘Aloha Snackbars’ in there, but can’t be sure.
Sad and worrisome to see the police retreat as they did. It reflects the deep cultural aversion to confrontation.
Wellington says
Agreed, curious.
Sometimes, confrontation is crucial in order to preserve one’s society. Right now, Norway is failing as are so many other Western nations who refuse to realize how iniquitous Islam truly is to so many Western values, achievements and assumptions.
gravenimage says
True, curious and Wellington–this dhimmitude, especially from the police, just emboldens ravening Muslims.
gravenimage says
Thanks for those links, Martin.
Giacomo Latta says
Cops defending freedom of speech? There is hope for Norway after all.
Diane Harvey says
“the car went out of control”
“the gun went off”
“mistakes were made”
“clashes break out”
All leftist attempts to avoid assigning blame.
Whenever you read a “clashes break out” type of story, then, if Muslims are involved, we can be certain that the Muslims were the instigators of the violence, and that the story was written to blur that fact and serve the interests of Islam. It’s a 1400-year old pattern. Similarly, if Antifa and its members are involved, we can also be certain that they were the instigators of the mayhem, and that to protect their fellow leftists those masquerading as reporters will write the story to deflect blame after from the real thugs.
Red Pill says
+1
gravenimage says
So true.
Donovan Nuera says
Slightly off topic: Is there a slang term for the ubiquitous and stupid-looking haircut sported by these “Norwegian Citizens” with the shaved sides, beard, and greasy skullcap top rug swath? (of course, you see this same uniform hairstyle from Riyahd to Rodeo Drive) . Here are my suggestions…..
Damascus Doo?
The Akbarb?
The Mufti-hawk?
The Muftilett?
Morocco Toppo?
Tripoli Tuft?
Towering Hamlet?
Manchester Mop?
Hirsute Istanbob?
Baghdad Buzz?
Feyadeen Fade
Jihadicurl?
Koran Klip?
Quran Quoif?
Surah Snip?
Hadith Hackjob?
Turk-with-all-the-Trimmings?
Allahu Alopecia?
Can you coin your own terms?
gravenimage says
🙂
PRCS says
I like ‘Baghdad’ Buzz.
gravenimage says
My favorite is “Jihadicurl” (a parody of Jheri Curl).
curious says
Most press coverage consists of headlines saying the burning of the Koran “caused” the violence. No, the Koran caused the violence; burning any other book would not cause this reaction. Robert Spencer wrote, “violence is the responsibility of those who commit and no one else.” I think the violence is also the fault of those who promote and defend the Koran.
Compounding the problem, the police retreated. The police had initially protected SIAN, and responded against the attackers, but then there was perhaps an order to retreat. I hope the assailants who damaged the police vehicles can be identified, arrested, and prosecuted.
Red Pill says
The burning of the Quran was just an excuse for Muslims proceed to free rioting. They are always looking for excuses to freely attack infidels. I mean they are already in stage 2 norway, right?
https://youtu.be/ERou_Q5l9Gw
john smith says
Here we go again, the left and the counter protester’s believing they are so morally superior to anyone else, are on the attack. They are the ones who are always taking up the high ground, and looking down on those who disagree with them.
Joe Biden recently said, “I am an ally of the light not the darkness”. Hillary Clinton once called Trump supporters “Deplorable’s”, they really do believe themselves to be the angels of light, but their actions tell a different story. There is a saying that goes,- the road to hell is paved with good intention. This saying sums the left up perfectly.
Joe Biden is correct about one thing, a battle has begun between the forces of light and darkness, and good and evil. But the Democrats, the left, and antifa, they have chosen to be allies of Islam. Therefore they have chosen to be the allies of evil, and the forces of darkness.
OTTER says
I think we should ask the left following question. If you think that the burning of the Quran justifies violence, then do you think your violence justifies violence by the other side in you?
Also, do you agree with the statement that the burning or ripping off at Quran is sufficient excuse for violence? Please say yes or no.
gravenimage says
Norway: Muslims riot, attack police van after protester rips pages from Qur’an
…………….
More “cultural enrichment” from the “religion of peace”, I see…
mortimer says
Note the bias in reporting: “right-wing extremists”.
But they do not call burners of the Bible ‘extremists’.
Freedom of expression must be protected and it is no use to us unless we actually do use it.
infidel says
Ps also google the notorious Paki A and B gangs of Oslo.. U will understand what charming immigrants to Norway these filth are,.
LB says
Okay, I’m against burning books of any kind, BUT! The SIAN members should make a social experiment by burning a bible; no words or speeches, just burn the thing. A week later, burn the quran; again, just burn it, no comment. Then compare the reactions between the two. That should be a red pill big enough to wake up a good chunk of Norwegians who are asleep when it comes to muslims.
Jedothek says
Let’s cut out this Quran-damaging thing. It is too much like the Nazis’ book burning. (Don’t bother to say that the Quran is really bad, that is beside the point.) The proper response to a bad book is a written rebuttal. Such action is more beneficial for everyone. (Perhaps I should add that in spite of all this I admire Ann Barnhardt.)
gravenimage says
I largely agree–but an individual burning their own copy of a book is very different from the state burning books and all that that implies.
Walter Sieruk says
A better ,,as in a more intelligent and sophisticated way deal with Quran than to rip it apart it is to expose the many errors and contradictions this religious book contains
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This has already been done on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Quran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Quran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Quran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Quran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Quran. Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Quran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.”
Furthermore, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses.
For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.” In conclusion, the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.
PRCS says
“the Quran was modified”
A recent controversy has erupted because a Muslim made that known in a YouTube vid.
Muslims’ heads ‘explode’ when they hear that the ‘revealed’ word isn’t what they’ve been told.
Anil Ghugal says
Cut the Islamic tree when it is small, otherwise it’s branches will strangulate you by outbreaks !!!