The establishment media keeps telling us that these are peaceful protests and that Black Lives Matter is simply a slogan opposing racial injustice. The rioters keep showing the falsehood of these claims, by continuing to behave violently and to demonstrate their opposition not just to racial injustice, which every sane person opposes, but to the United States itself, and to Judeo-Christian values. The rioters burned Bibles because they hate Christianity and Christians. They didn’t burn Qur’ans not because they are afraid of jihad violence against them if they do. They didn’t burn Qur’ans because they love the fact that Islam has been at war with Western civilization for 1,400 years. They share the same hatred.
Stack of Bibles and US flags burned in front of the federal courthouse in Portland tonight.pic.twitter.com/3o1tKFebMq
— Disclose.tv ? (@disclosetv) August 1, 2020
“VIDEO: Portland ‘Protestors’ Burn Bibles, American Flags,” by Natalie Winters, National Pulse, August 1, 2020:
Protestors in Portland appear to be burning dozens of Bibles and American flags in front of the city’s Federal Courthouse. The videos follow a pull back of federal officers following an apparent compromise between local Democrat politicians and the Trump administration.
A hotbed of far-left violence, Portland has seen Black Lives Matter (BLM) and AntiFa rioters in the streets for weeks, with individuals now targeting objects inextricably linked to America’s heritage and Judeo-Christian values.
Despite Democrat and mainstream media insistence major cities like Portland are witnessing “peaceful protest,” videos circulating on Twitter appear to suggest otherwise…
The tactic of burning Bibles was most recently observed in Communist China. The Associated Press reported in 2018:
China’s government is ratcheting up a crackdown on Christian congregations in Beijing and several provinces, destroying crosses, burning bibles, shutting churches and ordering followers to sign papers renouncing their faith, according to pastors and a group that monitors religion in China…
AnnChristine says
Will this hatred ever end? Maybe when the Colleges reopen after Summertime——Do their parents care or are they in agreement with their offspring?——Perhaps the kids will grow up soon it does happen eventually!
ManchesterLad says
If only that were true (about growing up eventually)! Many of my friends are leftists and they are all like teenagers in their arguments … they *hate* capitalism and Christianity, and meet any opposing arguments by storming off, calling me fascist/racist/bigot/nazi/far-right (pick your favourite insult).
They have no counter arguments, so will not engage. This is people in their 50 and 60s … they are never going to grow out of their teenage fantasies that they know a *better* and more moral system that I’m too right-wing to understand!
It’s sad.
James Lincoln says
ManchesterLad,
Classic JFK type liberals will engage. After a good discussion, they may even slightly modify their position – if broadsided with facts.
True Leftists will not engage.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
mortimer says
Response to JL: I personally believe the moderate liberals will ignore the facts about Islamic unless it happens to them or to their families. Then they will be interested in investigated the IDEOLOGY of Islam.
Until they experience personal tragedy at the hands of Muslims they will engage in nothing but smug virtue-signalling.
Phil Copson says
“… This is people in their 50 and 60s … they are never going to grow out of their teenage fantasies that they know a *better* and more moral system that I’m too right-wing to understand!”
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Very true – with pubs being closed until recently, a group of neighbours in my street created their own open-air “pub” by congregating – (at a socially responsible distance apart, natch…) – around a cherry-tree in the street, fastening a home-made pub-sign to it – (“The Cherry-Tree”, obviously) – and meeting up on Friday evenings for a few beers.
Myself and a friend were urged to join them, but by the third session the most self-important member of our group of 50 – 60 year-olds – (a Guardian reading social-worker, ’nuff said…) – went full “Owen Jones” and decided that it was his role that evening to police everyone else’s conversation and opinions. Eventually he concluded that we had failed his roadside “ideological purity test” and outed us as racist, sexist, Tommy Robinson supporters who weren’t welcome if we didn’t join them in decrying Donald Trump, and believing Green Energy would save the world.
(Tommy Robinson had never been mentioned, by-the-way, but to a slightly drunk lefty determined to reel off his list of Guardian-inspired talking-points at our expense, this was presumably the worst insult he could think of….)
Needless to say, we (A) won’t be joining them again, and (B) our local commissar was actually right on the money, as we both support TR and anyone else standing up for the truth, and will continue to defend him and contribute to his cause.
andrew mckendrick says
Sounds like The Cherry Tree could do with a visit from George Washington.
Giacomo Latta says
The basic Leftist approach is, ”we have an opinion to unite everyone” whereas the Right have a different and thus a ”divisive opinion.” The Leftist devotion to its opinions is very Islamic except that it hasn’t ordered the murder of all its opponents, yet.
Del says
BLM are a terrorist group.
Muslim says
Hello everyone, I am a muslim and I have a message to you guys.
Why do you hate us? I have nothing against you neither have I done anything to you guys. What causes the hate you guys have for muslims? Is it because some extremist kill your people? I want you all to know that the extremists are not us and you guys has been brainwashed by the west. If an extremist attacks you guys, it is NOT FOR FUN but for revenge I believe. They would never have attacked you guys if you didn’t attack first.
In the end I wanted to say I condemn all terrorism and I do not support the extremists even though I say they do it for revenge. If someone killed your father, mother, sister and brother: would you stand idle?
Some of you guys claim “killing a civillian christian” is permitted in Islam, I want you guys to back up and evidence for that. Not just tom, dick and harry saying something, but from the QURAN and the SUNNAH. I bet you will not find any such evil things. So in conclusion: Don’t believe anything you hear, find an evidence from the Quran.
Thanks for me, remember that I love christians and jews as my friends and I live in Europe and will pay my taxes and benefit the country.
Mo says
@ Muslim
“Hello everyone, I am a muslim and I have a message to you guys.
Why do you hate us?”
There’s no hate here. Please take your lies elsewhere.
JoBo says
All the hate comes from your so-called religion.
gravenimage says
Mo is an Anti-Jihadist here of long standing, as is obvious from his comment here.
ron k says
i guess you never heard of boko haram!!!???
gravenimage says
Muslim wrote:
Hello everyone, I am a muslim and I have a message to you guys.
Why do you hate us?
………………………
I don’t hate Muslim, but I *do* hate Islam. Muslim’s idea that you hate Muslims if you object to them raping and murdering us is just sickening. Why should we embrace Jihad and Shari’ah–these are repulsive.
More:
I have nothing against you neither have I done anything to you guys. What causes the hate you guys have for muslims? Is it because some extremist kill your people?
………………………
These are not “extremists”, as Muslim knows full well, This is orthodox Islam.
This is all projection from Muslim.
More:
I want you all to know that the extremists are not us and you guys has been brainwashed by the west. If an extremist attacks you guys, it is NOT FOR FUN but for revenge I believe. They would never have attacked you guys if you didn’t attack first.
………………………
Uh huh–Jihadists are “extremists”, but if they murder us it is justifiable “revenge”. Why did Jihadists attack mostly civilians on 9/11? Bin Laden claimed it was because the US sent troops to protect Saudi Arabia at their request from Saddam Hussein, hence defiling the “Kingdom of the Two Holy Places”.
The idea that we have been “brainwashed by the west” to consider this grotesque savagery is repulsive.
The fact is that all Jihad is “revenge” for Infidels living free of the Muslim heel, and not either converting out of terror or living as oppressed dhimmis–in either case, submitting to Islam.
More:
In the end I wanted to say I condemn all terrorism and I do not support the extremists even though I say they do it for revenge. If someone killed your father, mother, sister and brother: would you stand idle?
………………………
Muslim here condemns terrorism–except that he is pretending that our defensive presence in Saudi Arabia somehow killed his relatives.
He may also be referring to *any* defense against Jihad on our part–this gets things exactly backward, of course–the idea that defense against Jihad terror is–somehow–what causes Jihad terror.
If Muslim were *really* against Jihad, he would be talking to his coreligionists–*not* to the good Infidels here at Jihad Watch.
But this is not really about his opposing Jihad, of course,
More:
Some of you guys claim “killing a civillian christian” is permitted in Islam, I want you guys to back up and evidence for that. Not just tom, dick and harry saying something, but from the QURAN and the SUNNAH. I bet you will not find any such evil things. So in conclusion: Don’t believe anything you hear, find an evidence from the Quran.
………………………
What obvious claptrap.
Here is a Sahih Hadith:
Narrated Humaid:
Anas bin Malik said, “Whenever the Prophet (ﷺ) went out with us to fight (in Allah’s cause) against any nation, he never allowed us to attack till morning and he would wait and see: if he heard Adhan he would postpone the attack and if he did not hear Adhan he would attack them.” Anas added, “We reached Khaibar at night and in the morning when he did not hear the Adhan for the prayer, he (the Prophet ) rode and I rode behind Abi Talha and my foot was touching that of the Prophet. The inhabitants of Khaibar came out with their baskets and spades and when they saw the Prophet (ﷺ) they shouted ‘Muhammad! By Allah, Muhammad and his army.’ When Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) saw them, he said, “Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.”
— Sahih al-Bukhari 610
Also Muslim 1365
Note that they were attacked purely on the basis of *not being Muslim*. And far from attacking Muslims, this raid came when the inhabitants of Khaibar were going out to farm. The entire tribe was slaughtered or enslaved, the leader was tortured to death, and the “Prophet” Muhammed raped his wife that night.
How about the Qur’an itself? It has 109 verses of violence toward unbelievers. Here are just a few of them:
Qur’an (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”
Qur’an (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”
Qur’an (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”
There are many more examples of offensive Jihad, in the Qur’an, Hadith, and Sira.
So–what is the point of offensive Jihad? Qur’an 8:39 makes this clear:
“And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease – then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.”
In other words, Jihad is intended to establish the hegemony of Islam everywhere, and force all Infidels to submit to Islam.
More:
Thanks for me, remember that I love christians and jews as my friends and I live in Europe and will pay my taxes and benefit the country.
………………………
Here is Qur’an 5:51 “O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.”
So Muslim is either violating the diktats of his creed, or this is just more Taqiyya.
Let’s assume the former–Muslim being a (supposedly) lax, heretical Muslim doesn’t change the nature of Islam, nor of the behavior of his more pious coreligionists. Then, would he actually defend Infidels against the depredations of his fellow Muslims? I rather doubt it…
Would Muslim like to see the barbaric horrors of Shari’ah imposed on us? If not, then he is a virtual apostate. More likely, of course, this is just more Da’wa aimed at what he hopes are credulous Infidels here. Too bad for him–most of us here are actually quite knowledgeable about the savagery of Islam.
Wellington says
Excellent retort, gravenimage. Of course, “Muslim” will either not respond or will respond with more deceptive Muslimthink.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Wellington.
Of course, my dismantling his bs is more for interested Infidels here. I don’t really expect this Taqiyya artist to pay any attention.
FYI says
Hi muslim,I’m an infidel and I have a message to you muslim guys
{I won’t say “salaam aleikum” as that is a muslim to muslim greeting isn’t it?}
1]Hate comes from YOUR religion
Your Doctrine of al walaa wal baraa
The Jews are ‘to be despised and hated’ {koran 2:65}
Christians and Jews are ‘the WORST of created beings’ {koran 98:6}
That is the ‘holy’ koran’s religious apartheid system of HATE.
Why do YOU muslims hate Jews,Christians,ex-muslims,Atheists,Hindus,Buddhists etc?
Because of al walaa wal baraa and because your demonic god ‘allah’ MISSED the Golden Rule.
2]So you condemn Terrorism..and Terrorists?
Then you must condemn YOUR ‘prophet’ muhammed as
Your ‘prophet’ muhammed was a self-confessed TERRORIST
“I have been made victorious through TERROR”
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:220
There are 164 jihadist verses in the ‘holy’ koran.
So condemn your ‘prophet’ if you condemn terrorism:go ahead and PROVE you condemn terrorism by doing so.
3]So you are friends with Jews and Christians?
That’s nice except…..
You cannot be friends with Jews and Christians according to your god allah as then YOU are an infidel.
“Oh ye who believe!take not the Jews and Christians for friends.They are friends to one another.He among you who taketh them for friends is one of them”
koran 5:51
That is ‘evidence’ from your ‘holy’ koran:go read it.You are an infidel if you have infidel friends.The koran insists.
Nice try pretending to be innocent:your own holey koran,your false demonic god allah and your child-raping pederast ‘prophet’ are demonstrably false.
It wouldn’t matter to me except that your religion is immoral,violent and evil,hostile to all other beliefs and wants to rule the world in a wicked global caliphate.
And muslims lie all the time to promote islam as allah gives full permission to do so k3:28.
Merri-joy says
Thanks for that FYI – you captured it all in this one great post!
The young man who had the vids “Apostate Prophet” has some awesome apologetics up for us to arm ourselves against the Islamic delusion!
We have got to fight back against the OIC & Saudi et al push in the UN, to stop our RIGHT to criticize Islam!
The ECLJ have a Petition demanding our RIGHT to criticize Islam:
https://eclj.org/religious-autonomy/coe/la-charia-est-incompatible-avec-les-droits-de-lhomme?lng=en
We need to get a Petition to the UN to demand our RIGHT to CRITICIZE ISLAM and all Ideologies whether Political, Religious or Humanist eg Globalism, LGBTQ, the mass Vaccination push etc,etc!
FYI says
The Apostate Prophet is seriously impressive.
Ex-muslims get ferocious abuse from muslim apologists who try to silence them.
I applaud anyone who leaves islam.
M says
Hi Muslim,
Non-Muslim says:
We don’t hate Muslim’s but Allah tells you that Jews and Christians are “apes & pigs” – Allah has lied to you because it is a scientific impossibility!
When your Prophet tells Muslims to cast terror into the heart of all non-Muslim’s when one is casting terror = terror by a terrorist!
As the leader of Hamas in the USA said that Muslim’s are now the BLM of America and are involved in the rioting and killing of innocent Americans and in other countries have done similarly – people do not like the ideology of Islam!
We dont’t like the fact that 57 Muslim countries are pushing their agenda on 137 non-Muslim’s via the OIC in the UN and trying to take the RIGHT of all people to criticize an Ideology that is not based on TRUTH or fact but on one man seeing an angel Jibril / Gabriel in a cave (NO WITNESSES) and recorded after Muhammad’s death!
The ONE TRUE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC & JACOB spoke to MOSES on top of Mt SINAI in front of thousands of WITNESSES wh “heard the voice of God” and it was recorded at the time!
Non-Muslim’s are concerned for Muslim’s and really you should be rioting against Muslim leaders and Imams who are feeding you lies about Jews, Christians and non-Muslim’s
Wellington says
Muslim: Go peddle your nonsense and deception elsewhere. Too many here at JW know what Islam is really all about, including its over 100 verses calling upon Muslims to wage war against all humanity “until all religion is with Allah.” {Sura 8:39}
As for loving Christians and Jews, what rot. Start with Sura 98:6—“the vilest of creatures” and blah, blah, blah.
And what of the sanctioning of the killing of a Muslim who converts to another faith? Sura 4: 89 comes to mind as does the Bukhari Hadith 9.84.57.
Islam is an enemy of liberty, equality under the law and a true Golden Rule for all. In short, Islam stinks. As I have written many times here at JW, Islam is the turd in the punch bowl of world religions.
And there is no Allah, Mohammed was a brutal psychopath, and the Koran is a disgusting hate manual. Take your Islamic rot elsewhere. Most people here at JW know too much about Islam already for you to make any headway. Kiss off. You may fool some kuffaars, but not these kuffaars en masse at JW. What a loser you are.
gravenimage says
+1
Jean says
+2
Kepha says
Dear Muslim:
I do not hate you personally. I have had no chance to know you save on this thread. I do not know if you are a regular student of Qur’an and Hadith; or if you are Muslim simply because that’s what most Arabs, Turks, Persians, Uighurs, Bosniaks, Sqiptars, Kurds, Kashmiris, Hui, Malays, Western Panjabis, Bangladeshis, Balochis, Hausa, Amazigh, Tatars, Chechens, Uzbeks, Nubiin, or whatever your ethnicity is happen to be; and, of course, I would have no right to hate you simply for that.
Perhaps you have a better way of reading the Qur’anic and Hadith passages that others have cited here. If so, I am willing to read and try to understand. However, I recall plainly the events of 9/11 (Please don’t tell me the JOOOOOOZ did it: I know too many people who had to say a Kaddish after that event. Further, if the US Government is the guilty party, I assure you it would never be able to keep something like that secret).
But I do have theological differences–even if my sacred book (the Old and New Testaments) do not enjoin me to hasten anyone on his way to Hell. I also confess there is an all-powerful, transcendant God, and that we will all answer on a day of judgment. But we’ve got differences.
Forgive me if I do not quote the Qur’an exactly, for I do not have my copies (Yusuf Ali and N. Dawood) handy.
Somewhere, I believe Al-Maida, the Qur’an tells me that I establish Jesus and Mary as lesser gods. In fact, the Holy Trinity I worship is the Father, Word (Son), and Holy Spirit. We believe that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth (see John 1), and that the New Testament [Injil/Evangellion] is the testimony to that event. I would urge you to read it, since it is not a very large book (don’t neglect the Old Testament either). Obedient to the will of the Father to redeem man, the Word became flesh, and this is the one we know as Jesus Christ, who remains fully God and fully Man forever. In his righteous life, sacrificial death on the tree (which, it seems, the Qur’an denies; perhaps in a mistaken attempt to offer Jesus greater honor), and triumphant resurrection from the dead (body and soul), he won that salvation for us. Through his work, we are given the Holy Spirit to guide us in all truth (this is the “other Comforter” Jesus promises in chapters 13-16 of the Gospel of John)–The Holy Spirit is God applying the benefits of salvation to usl not an angel or other human.
As for the Qur’an’s denial of Jesus’ crucifixion, the New Testament presents this as central to our redemption. If you read the Torah, you see the establishment of a system of animal sacrifices. This was to typify the work that the Messiah would do prior to the God-ordained time when Messiah (Christ) would come. The blood is set forth in books like Leviticus (third book of the Torah) to make atonement. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ is the perfect, true atonement which renders further blood sacrifice not only unneceary but blasphemy. He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree that we, having died to sin might live to righteousness (I Peter 2.24/ Isaiah 53–the latter text a prophecy of Messiah’s suffering).
The Qur’an also tells me that the Jews see Ezra (Uzair) as “Son of God” as Christians see Jesus. I hve lived around Jews for a lot of my life, have discussed theology with them, and read some of their books. I know nothing of their seeing Ezra as the Son of God, and am pretty sure that any Jew hearing that the Qur’an so describes his beliefs would scratch his head in wonderment.
We do indeed speak of God having a son. Once, a Muslim with whom I had a friendly relationship approached and explained that when in Lebanon, he had once walked into a church and seen the sharing of bread and wine. He asked what it was all about. I told him that since Muslims often chide us by asking, “If God has a Son, where is his wife?” I explained to my friend that he had walked in on God eating supper with his wife–the body of believing people.
Since the 9th Commandment given by God on Sinai tells me I must not bear false witness against my neighbor, I have a hard time accepting the Qur’an as divine when it says things about my beliefs and those of the Jews that I know to be untrue (even if I disagree with the Rabbinical Jews when they say Messiah has not yet come).
While Christianity has launched Crusades, we do not have warrant for such, except for logical extrapolation that supports a just war of defense of the state and the innocent, in the New Testament. The means Jesus enjoined for spreading the Gospel is its preaching.
As for the politics and violence, I have lived in both China and Thailand, where there has been violence in Muslim-majority areas. I understand that in China, Muslim violence and dissent covers a gamut ranging from East Turkistan separatism to Hui people seeking grreater religious liberty within the Chinese state. In southern Thailand, the violence has gotten pretty appalling, especially since Thailand, while officially Buddhist, sets a very high glass ceiling for Muslims and Christians (I have known members of both minority communities who held high positions of trust).
As for Europe, we have heard many disturbing reports of migrant-related violence. Maybe you are indeed as appalled as we are. If so, it is good. But I believe that a lot of us would be less concerned about Islamic-related violence if we could see a detailed condemnation of such terrorism based on Islam’s foundational texts.
While I’m at it, there is forgiveness of sins and redemption in the blood and resurrection of Jesus Christ–and room for one more sinner seeking salvation in his church.
Giacomo Latta says
You want evidence, knob? Read your koran, or reread your koran because you sure missed a shitload the first time around.
owensgate says
I am sure there are as many “muslims in name only” as there are “christians in name only”. Here’s what you don’t understand: The REAL Christians, the ones who have been “Born Again” according to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, do not hate Muslims. True Christians pray for the “Lost” to come to the knowledge of the Lord, to repent of their Sin, and believe in their hearts that Jesus is the Son of God (which in reality means God “struck a tent of Human Flesh” and moved into our physical world to show us the way), and by no other name is Salvation possible. There is more evidence that Jesus rose from the dead 72 hours after burial, than there is that Julius Caesar ever lived. I think the whole problem of the Muslims is, they understand there is no hope of Heaven or Salvation in the pages of the koran, and it subconsciously infuriates them. Being the “Best that you can be” in hope of getting 72 virgins in Heaven, is fraught with so much doubt, it’s no wonder muslims go berserk to “kill the kufar” in hope of getting a free pass to paradise. It doesn’t work that way. You cannot do “Good Works” to get to Heaven; the ONLY way is through the shed blood of the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ. Look in your heart; you KNOW this is true. Your Immortal Soul is in danger if you deny Christ is God Incarnate who died so we might live. Jesus said of the Last Days, “Take care no man deceive you…”; you are being deceived by your imams and your koran. And here’s another: the pope in the Vatican is deceiving Christians in the catholic church also, because the Judeo-Christian God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob IS NOT the same as allah; no such reconciliation of islam with Christianity is possible.
Virgil higgins says
And the koran tells you to kill where you find them and tells you it’s ok to lie to further islam. Therefore either you dont know the Koran or you are a deciever.
Antiislamicman says
This has nothing to do with the struggle of black people.
Anna Yelena says
And Nancy Pelosi supports the protesters. And these thugs are Democrats. God is watching the burning of Bibles but the evil book that is written by men is safe. What is happening to this great country where so many people worked so hard to make it great?Michael Savage said once it’s not the Muslims who are going to destroy America but the left/ liberals. Sure looks like it. Thank God we’re no longer Democrats.
Keith O says
Anna, got to disagree with you on a point you make.
The bible, just like the Koran is written by men.
You know, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, guys like that!
It may be the interpretation of thoughts, ideas and teaching which came from the creator and inspired good men. But it was still put on parchment by men.
The Koran is the plagiarized conglomeration of numerous earlier works that were then twisted by the perverted mind of a primitive tribesman who was conned by an evil spirit, aka Allah.To enact his dreams of adequacy and fulfill his twisted desires for power and privileged.
The rest of what you say is, I feel correct.
Wellington says
Antifa and BLM are both disgusting. They are each a Far Left fascist-like group and represent the forces of anti-civilization.
Imagine if these two groups ran the West. It would be the end of the West—of freedom, of equality under the law, of a true Golden Rule for all, of capitalism, of basic decency, etc. Essentially they are control-freak organizations which will brook no dissent. Each is hideous. I despise them.
Anyone who cherishes freedom and realizes that Western Civilization produced the finest civilization of all time (asserted by many non-Westerners, for instance by Ibn Warraq who wrote “Why the West is Best” in 2011) should be utterly opposed to what these two despicable organizations stand for. They stand for anarchy, hatred of “the other,” animosity toward liberty, eventually genocide, et al. They would produce a new dark age if they had their way and such a dark age could end up proving to be the darkest of them all.
mccode says
Absolutely correct, Wellington.
BLM = Bolshevik Liberation Movement
Antifa = Anti-First Amendment
Wellington says
My compliments, mccode. That’s what these two repulsive organizations ultimately stand for.
James Lincoln says
+1.
mccode, may I also suggest:
Antifa = Anti-Free America.
Kepha says
@Wllington and mccode: Agreed.
First, they came for the Tenth Amendment. I said nothing because I thought I wasn’t a States’ Rights man. I didn’t consider at the time that Justices Curtis and McLean raised States RIghts in their dissents in Sanford v. Scott; nor did I consider that federalism and a reognition that government is not omnicompetent were at stake as well.
Then, they came for the Secon Amendment. I said nothing because I wasn’t a gun owner.
Then, they came for the FIrst Amendment. I said nothing because I wasn’t a traditional believer, and liked things quiet.
Then, they came for Amendments 4-8; and there was no-one left brave enough to stand up for me.
Buraq says
No Qurans burned, eh?! Because BLM means ‘Believe lies, Mash’Allah’! Clowns!
Paul Stein says
Obviously, there is something horribly destructive going on out in Portland. My issue is that I don’t know by whom. For absolute certain, I see one Holy Bible being burned by two people. Other stuff is burning in the “pile”, yes, but what cannot be determined. Who are these two…two? Why are they doing it? What is their purpose, their problem, their beef with whomever? None of this can be determined in this video. Indeed, having watched the evening news for the last two weeks, one cannot determine who these destructive rioters are and why they are acting that way. There does appear to be two elements here, real protesters for this Black Lives Matter movement, and those in the background taking advantage of the situation for their own nefarious ends. But, here is where the issue for me comes. Blame on particular people and groups and particular reasoning for their actions, along with their purported allies, is being made with zero evidence. No actual signs, no actual declarations, no actual confessions or interviews…nothing. Just two strange people burning one Holy Bible. Antifa, Pelosi, Democrats, even Far Leftists, sorry, no, however their verbal leanings, no one knows what the deal is in Portland. Got any better videos?
Merri-joy says
A Video link was put up on one of the comments a few weeks ago & it clearly showed the head of Hamas USA a couple of years ago, saying “Muslims are the new black people of America, Muslim’s are black lives matter”
Evidence is out there!
Kilauea says
They don’t burn Korans because they do not want to offend Mussies. Since Mussies don’t like Christians or the United States, Antifa thinks the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Antifa and the Mussies will eventually turn on each other.
James Lincoln says
Kilauea,
May I also suggest that antifa members, with a few brain cells that they still have, still know enough not to burn the koran – and incur the violent wrath of muslims.
European pagan says
There are a lot of black Christians…
gravenimage says
True, European pagan.
Walter Sieruk says
Of course the lawless ruffians who made up BLM and Antifa would, naturally ,burn Bibles. This is because the Bible contains information that the members of those two domestic terror.murder organizations don’t want to hear
For the BLM and Antiifa thugs and that many of them resist with and even fight with the police .Those Antiia and BLM hooligans who are ,no doubt , godless violent men who strive against and resist the police
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The Bible informs its reader “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers .For there is no power but God : the powers that be ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power , resisteth the ordnance of God : and they that resist shall receive to themselves a damnation.” Romans 13:1-2. [K.J.V.]
Therefore those Antifa as well as the BLM thugs with all their resisting the police as well as all their lawless violence and mayhem will only receive severe punishment for their evil actions , Romans 14:12
tim gallagher says
As an Australian, I have a question. What is the story with Portland? Is it just a place that left wingers have tended to gravitate to? I think Seattle had an area which had set itself up as a separate little soviet type commune a while ago. In Australia, Victoria is often spoken of as being a left wing state, which almost always elects Labor governments. I guess birds of a feather find a way to flock together.
gravenimage says
Tim, most of the West coast cities here–Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco–are pretty far-left. LA is a bit more of a mixed bag, but over all still mostly “blue”.
Merri-joy says
Dr Steve Turley has great commentary re Portland USA Riots et al on his Turley Talks videos!
The actions of Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews are absolutely draconian & deplorable!
Churches & Synagogues were shut down but BLM protests & Muslim weddings & gatherings were given green lights!
Prime Minister Gough Whitlam was stood down by the Australian Governor General for bad Governance – Daniel Andrews has done as badly if not worse – the Victorian GG who is the Queen’s Representative has a DUTY of CARE to step in and remove the Premier from office – he has betrayed his Oath of office!
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the replies, gravenimage and Merri-joy. I was thinking that Oregon would be a state (forests and what not) that might attract greenies, who would be pretty left wing. Maybe Washington state as well. I guess California would be fairly left wing, trendily so. Merri-joy, I have listened to Andrew Bolt, Rita Panahi and Peta Credlin, who all live in Victoria, giving their opinions about why that state is so left wing. It still is a bit vague to me. The Andrews’ government seem pathetic and they seem to have stuffed up the quaratine situation in the hotels because Andrews gave the job to his union mates in the security industry and refused the help from the Army, for left wing ideological reasons. In New South Wales, where I live, The mosque at Auburn was allowed to have 400 people at Eid celebrations recently, which was a disgusting cave in by our state government. Why do they cave in to the Muslims? No other group has been allowed this privilege. I think it can only be a pathetic fear of Muslim violence. After all, Muslims are 2% of Australia’s population, although in areas like Auburn they would be close to 30%. So our government is pretty pathetic as well. Years ago, I knew, at work, a far, far left person, and, lo and behold, turned up as an academic (poisoning university students with his Marxist crap) in Melbourne years later. The left loonies find one another. He would feel very at home there, amongst his comrades, I guess.
gravenimage says
Sorry to hear that, Tim. It does not surprise, though.
By the way, a lot of the inland or rural areas of these West-coast states are moderate or even conservative–but these cities are large, and mean that over all these are “blue”.
One of my brothers lives in small town Oregon, and it is quite conservative politically.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the clarification, gravenimage and also J Morgan. “Keep Portland Weird” makes its point very succinctly. On the Auburn mosque and letting 400 Muslims into the place during the day to celebrate, I should say that they had agreed to many conditions about keeping the social distance and going off into smaller rooms, etc. Still, as I heard a radio presenter, and he is a person who is more politically correct than I am, say, the decision “stinks”. As he said, there should not be special exemptions for Muslims or anyone else. I thought it was a pathetic, gutless decision, but I suppose we get used to this sort of crap. On that Marxist academic, he was one of the most far left loonies I have ever come across, and when I heard later that he actually had a job lecturing at university, I thought what a lot of damage he could do with his propaganda. I later heard that he got kicked out of the job which I thought was great news.
J Morgan says
I live in California, but I know that they have a “Keep Portland Weird” sign that has been up since 2003, but I think they have prided themselves on being a capitol of progressivism for a long time.
Merri-joy says
IF the rioters were genuinely concerned with oppression and slavery they would be burning the Quran and the Communist little Red book, Mein Kampf et al!
IF the rioters were genuine they would not have burned the American flag but be protesting about the OIC and Saudi push to force all to have no right to criticize Islam!
Having seen the video link of the Hamas leader in America saying Muslim’s are the new Black people of America, Muslim’s are now the Black Lives Matter ???
Given that video evidence, America should sue the OIC, and all it’s member countries for compensation for all damages incurred by the rioters, compensation for families of those killed during the riots, compensation for businesses and compensation for the 9/11 attacks on America!
America should demand the UN stop the push by the OIC to stifle oour RIGHT to criticize Islam!
Walter Sieruk says
Getting to the specific subject of the group called “Black Lives Matter” is needs made clear the BLM is not a genuine or real civil rights organization but instead it’s an vicious,violent malicious dangerous an deadly terrorist entity.
For example, the murderous action of the BLM hooligans of shooting a young White woman dead for only telling them the truth that “All lives matter.” exposes many evil things about that vicious hate group.
This exposes the BLM thugs are so malicious and irrational that they can’t be reason with. In other words they are not rational and don’t understand reason.
This also reveals that they are wicked in the true sense of being totally evil . They have proven that by the vicious murderous violence.
This poor young woman was so naive as to try to reason with those who aren’t rational but only vicious brutal cruel and murderous.
This alone exposes that BLM is not a real political action movement but an extremely violent terrorist/ criminal, murdering entity.
The BLM hooligans by celebrating the malicious murder of this young person by one of their thugs have expose that they and their group are not a genuine political organization but spiteful, hateful malice ,wicked thugs.
Those BLM supporters who celebrate the murder of this innocent young woman shall ,in time, be punished for their hate and malice.
As the Bible informs in reader in Proverbs 17:5. “He who is glad at calamity will not go unpunished.” [N.K.J.V.]
gravenimage says
Here is that terrible story, Walter:
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-jessica-doty-whitaker-shot-dead-indianapolis-all-lives-matter-20200713-jcm5oyjca5fz5kge4qtlhh7dnu-story.html
stevo katani says
if they EVER dare call right wingers “nazis” remind them of their exact copying of nazi burning of bibles. the hypocrisy is astounding
Henricus says
Muhammed’s own words, “I have been victorious with terror”.
James says
Jesus said, Before they hate you, they hate me.
somehistory says
The burning of Bibles, the destruction, the attacks, the hatred, the attempts to force Christians to leave their faith….all are actions that Jesus Christ said would happen when He was on earth 2000 years ago. He gave the reasons….”the world has hated me, and will hate you because of my Name.” “You will be hated….you will be persecuted…you will be killed…” “The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy.” The “thief” is satan the devil and his human “children” who “wish to do the desire of their father,’ are “steal(ing), kill(ing) and destroy(ing),” just as their father has done since he made himself an opposer of man’s Creator, and an enemy of mankind.
For anyone who knows the Bible, for any true Christians, these things are no surprise. Jesus Christ warned us about them and had His disciples write of some of the things done to them…many were murdered outright, many were persecuted…Peter and John were “ordered” to stop speaking about Jesus…and down through the centuries, other Christians have been persecuted and killed and Bibles banned and burned. Translators of the Bible have been burned alive.
satan would be full of glee if he could destroy every Bible and murder every Christian, so his “children” are trying to please him.
KA says
Can’t we burn satanic bibles and Marxist mannifesto?
JoBo says
Sure we can. Let them try to stop us.
Debra says
We think it’s bad now? Wait til the next crop of America-haters come of age:
https://pjmedia.com/culture/tyler-o-neil/2020/07/20/virginia-school-district-urges-marxist-splc-race-slavery-lessons-for-kindergarten-n665305
gravenimage says
Very troubling.