Islam Said, a son of Yaser Said, who murdered Islam’s two sisters Amina and Sarah on January 1, 2008, denies that the killings were honor murders or had anything to do with Islam. “It’s something else. Religion has nothing to do with it.”
Yet Islam Said has now been arrested in Texas along with his father. If this wasn’t an honor killing, why would he go on the run with his father and help him hide for all these years? Why wouldn’t he have the normal human reaction of thinking that what his father had done in murdering his sisters was abhorrent, and turn his father in to authorities? Did Islam Said’s commitment to the religion of Islam override that natural human reaction and make him think that what his father had done was good and praiseworthy?
For despite media denial and obfuscation of the fact, honor killing is something that many Muslims believe to be good and in accord with their faith. According to Islamic law, “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (Reliance of the Traveller o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law. In this case the victim was the murderer’s daughter, a victim to the culture of violence and intimidation that such laws help create. That is why Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”
Also connected to the Islamic aspect of the story, and evidence that these were honor killings, is the fact that Yaser Said was enraged that Amina and Sarah had non-Muslim boyfriends. The Dallas Morning News reports below that “Sarah said her father had threatened her older sister when he learned that she had a boyfriend, saying he’d put a bullet through Amina’s head.”
Twelve years ago, the Dallas Morning News was more courageous and honest. Back in January 2008, it reported that the girls’ mother Patricia had said (regarding Amina) that “since they are Muslim that the daughter was only allowed to date other Muslims. Yaser had found out she went on a date with a non-Muslim and became very angry and threatened her with bodily harm.”
Yet now Patricia is playing dumb: “She had no idea where Said was, and, despite public speculation about a motive, she doesn’t know why the sisters were killed.” We can only hope that police will not take her claim at face value, and thoroughly investigate whether Patricia had any role in Yaser being able to evade capture for twelve years. For note this: Patricia “divorced Said in 2009 and had converted to Islam after her daughters’ deaths, said in 2011 that she didn’t know why Said had killed Amina and Sarah but that he thought they were overly Westernized.”
This is a woman who admitted in 2008 — after her husband had killed their two daughters — that her husband had threatened to kill one of her daughters for dating a non-Muslim. Then, after that, she converted to Islam. What kind of a mindset could Patricia Owens Said possibly have had that would have induced her to join the religion that seems to have played a role in leading her husband to murder their daughters? Could it have been because she was in touch with Yaser and was signaling her acquiescence to and approval of his act? Will investigators look into this possibility, or would that be “Islamophobic”?
Probably the latter. Irving police Chief Jeff Spivey says “This man brutally murdered — shot to death — his two daughters in his taxi cab. What led him to do that, I think at this point to us, is irrelevant.”
No, sir. It isn’t irrelevant at all. It could shed important light on the behavior of Islam Said, and on the question of whether or not Patricia Owens Said were involved in his twelve years as a fugitive. Also, knowing exactly what happened in this case could help authorities prevent such honor killings in the future. Will you, Chief Spivey, consider such issues, or allow political correctness and fear of the Leftist mob curtail and deform your investigation?
More on this story. “Man accused of killing 2 teen daughters in 2008 has been captured, Irving police and FBI announce,” by Tom Steele, Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Dana Branham and LaVendrick Smith, Dallas Morning News, August 26, 2020:
Yaser Abdel Said, a 63-year-old man who is suspected of killing his two teenage daughters in Irving more than a decade ago, has been captured, authorities announced Wednesday.
Said had been on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014 in connection with the shootings of 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said on New Year’s Day 2008.
He was taken into custody Wednesday in Denton County, police said.
Two of Said’s relatives — his son, Islam Said, and his brother, Yassim Said — were arrested in Euless, accused of helping him to elude arrest.
Matt DeSarno, special agent in charge for the FBI Dallas field office, said Yaser Said was “compliant and quiet” when he was arrested in the city of Justin. He declined to provide details about how Said was traced there, crediting “good old-fashioned, aggressive, initiative-based police work” for the arrest.
Authorities suspect other people aided in harboring Said through the years, DeSarno said.
Patricia Owens, mother of the victims and Said’s former wife, was relieved at the news.
“All I can say is there’s going to be justice,” Owens told The Dallas Morning News on Wednesday night.
She said the last 12 years were a nightmare for her family. She had no idea where Said was, and, despite public speculation about a motive, she doesn’t know why the sisters were killed….
There was widespread speculation, rooted in Said’s Muslim faith, that the sisters were shot in an honor killing — a practice in some cultures where men kill female relatives who are thought to have brought shame upon their families.
The victims’ brother, Islam Said, then 19, disputed the notion: “It’s something else. Religion has nothing to do with it.”…
Islam Said — the brother who now stands accused of sheltering a fugitive — asked after the killings that anyone who saw his father turn him in.
“I don’t want to have nothing to do with him,” he said….
DeSarno said authorities will work to determine where Said has been for the last 12 years — but the “most significant priority now, though, is the prosecution for the capital murder of his daughters.”…
Asked about the theory that the sisters were slain in an honor killing, Spivey said those two words shouldn’t be used together.
“This man brutally murdered — shot to death — his two daughters in his taxi cab,” Spivey said. “What led him to do that, I think at this point to us, is irrelevant.”
Allegations of violence
In 1998, the girls accused Said of sexually abusing them, and their mother swore in an affidavit that the allegations were true.
A judge in Hill County, south of Fort Worth, dropped the charges several months later when the girls recanted, saying they didn’t want to attend school in rural Covington and hoped to live with their grandmother.
But allegations that Said was controlling and quick to violence never went away.
One friend told The Dallas Morning News that Sarah said her father had threatened her older sister when he learned that she had a boyfriend, saying he’d put a bullet through Amina’s head.
Another friend said Amina came to school with welts on her body, and one time said her father had kicked her in the face after he found notes from a boyfriend.
Owens’ sister, Connie Moggio, told a reporter that Said once shot out Owens’ tires to prevent her from leaving their home.
On Christmas, just a week before the slayings, the sisters, their mother and their boyfriends fled the state after Said learned about the sisters’ relationships. They rented an apartment under another name in Tulsa but returned to Lewisville on New Year’s Eve.
“What prompted her to go back home is beyond me,” Moggio said of her sister…
Owens, who divorced Said in 2009 and had converted to Islam after her daughters’ deaths, said in 2011 that she didn’t know why Said had killed Amina and Sarah but that he thought they were overly Westernized.
“He would say things like, ‘They’re becoming too American,’ ” she said.
At the time, she was still afraid of Said returning to kill her.
But she said she had one question for her ex-husband if she saw him, after she turned him in: “Why and how could you do that?”
Jack Cade says
Muslims lie! Oh and cheat, loot, rape, murder, and commit sexual perversion just like their psychopath pretend prophet. Hope no one is offended.
JW_Reader says
A liberal judge might say that honor killing is part of Yaser Said’s culture. So, Said can not be held accountable for his actions. Happened before – though this time Fed is involved.
Mount Zion says
Yes , you are right it has happened bevore a judge might actually say that but according to his son’s statement Islam had nothing to do with the killings so if the murderer “Yasser Said” holds the same position the path that leads to… the death penalty should be cleared . However I bet a lawyer will advice him to pull the “culture card “.
whirlwinder says
His lawyer might advise him or his lawyer might give him some advice.
Mount Zion says
Hey Jack , I just love the last part of your comment . “Hope no one is offended”
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wiliam carr says
Moose Limbs are Muslim and cannot escape what Islam imposes on their life and character everything they do or do not is because of Islam. It is mind control to the nth degree
gravenimage says
Some Muslims have indeed left their vicious creed–all too few, though.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
As in so many of these barbaric murders, the son/s are involved in the planning and execution of these heinous crimes.
SKA says
Fewer siblings means more inheritance!
Christian Indeed says
There’s half your problem right there in 4 words: “They’re becoming too American”.
This from a group of people who want all the benefits of their host country whilst merely paying lip service, maximum, to its laws and customs.
They will NEVER rest until The World is Islamification, then they will continue fighting amongst themselves.
This is a worldwide problem and one that non-Islamic World leaders need to discuss and act upon.
john smith says
Yes Christian, this is a worldwide problem and one that non Islamic world leaders need to discuss and act upon.
The trouble is, to the vast majority that would be Islamophobic, and the vast majority cannot see the problem. They are ostriches, there heads are in the sand, they just don’t see it.
Jeff Gonez says
Correct! Blind hatred that will consume itself once it has consumed the rest of humanity.
gravenimage says
It’s been 1400 years so far, I’m afraid.
Terry Gain says
“Yet now Patricia is playing dumb: “She had no idea where Said was, and, despite public speculation about a motive, she doesn’t know why the sisters were killed.” We can only hope that police will not take her claim at face value, and thoroughly investigate whether Patricia had any role in Yaser being able to evade capture for twelve years.”
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I would be shocked if the police investigate Said’s motive for killing his daughters. It is not an aggravating factor and is completely irrelevant to whether he is guilty of murder- which he obviously is. The police will also avoid looking into the motive of the children’s mother in order to avoid examining Islamic doctrine. They know that nothing would ever come of that except that they would be accused of Islamophobia.
gravenimage says
Actually, motive is indeed quite important. If there was no motive, then this might have been mental illness or an accident. Clearly it was neither. Most prosecutions include motive.
James Lincoln says
gravenimage,
100% correct. The perp completed the triad:
1. Motive
2. Means
3. Opportunity
gravenimage says
Thanks, James.
David Longfellow says
Islam is a cancer on the face of the earth.
Michael Copeland says
“A father should kill his erring daughter,
Control is supreme: the sanction — slaughter.”
From “Easy Guide to Sharia Law”
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/04/easy-guide-to-sharia-law/
gravenimage says
Gates of Vienna is an important site. Thanks for that link.
mortimer says
Muslims in the US often claim they are ‘unaware’ of US laws because such depraved acts are lawful in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan and other full-sharia countries.
Women are the first victims of Islam.
somehistory says
They may not admit to the killing to keep an “honor” they don’t even begin to possess, but that is the reason. They may deny it was an “honor” murder…two murders…and it is, in fact Dishonorable, so that is the only part of what this moslim liar says that is true. The murders were done because the guy who was called “father” and was supposed to love, protect, and nurture his daughters felt that the “moslim community” would think he was less than a “man.” He was never a man and never had any honor.
His daughters were tricked into getting in the car with him that awful night of double slaughter…because they ***loved*** him and thought that he loved them.
This creepy son is just another moslim liar trying to save “face” for his sleazy, good-for-nothing murdering father and himself, and the evil, filth that is called islam…devil worship that it is.
Soak them all in swine and dog waste and hang them high. I don’t “fear” it…I despise it and don’t care who knows it. Proud to be one who “hates what is bad.”
Walter Sieruk says
Yaser Said ,being devout Muslim, said that to hide the truth about the truth about his evil religion from known to Westerners.
In other words, his is engaging in the Islamic doctrine of Taqyyia [deception]
The Political Oracle says
As I have said before, Linda Shartsour and CAIR-Texas…….. and the man’s family will attempt to deny the truth and deny justice. Someone in the list above (maybe all of them) has not woken up about islam; a veil has been place over the eyes so as not to see clearly or to be intentionally blinded. What does islam say about veils?
saturnine says
“All I can say is there’s going to be justice,” the girls’ mother Patricia Owens said.
When expressing relief, normal people would say “there’s finally going to be justice.” Her phrasing suggests resignation, not relief.
Overall, her demeanor makes one suspect she at least knew where he was, and perhaps abetted his flight.
gravenimage says
Texas: Son of Muslim who murdered daughters denies it was honor killing, says ‘Religion has nothing to do with it’
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Yeah, right–says a guy abetting the murderer *actually named Islam*.
Then, Spencer is quite right about suspecting the mother–who would convert to Islam *after* her children were “Honor Killed”? She is no rational actor, and her claims should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
whirlwinder says
Yasser and his son Islam Said were hidden and protected all of these years by Islam. Islam is a tribal cult and will protect all within the tribe against everybody else. And yes, Yasser’s was an honor killing. Son Islam is lying through his teeth when he said it was not. Nobody lies better than a Moslem. Lying to Moslems is like truth to anybody else. In their world, Yasser was dishonorer by his daughters becoming “too American.”
Islam is on a mission to conquer the world and to do that, they must remain pure in their Moslemhood. If they become intergrated in the process of conquering a nation, then they cannot become conquerors.
The FBI, by knuckling under to Islam by not calling it an honor killing is losing the intellectual battle. If we want to win this war with Islam and they are definately at war with America, we cannot continue to fight battles where we give in to their victimhood. That and terror are two of their greatest tactics in this war. The war has not become a kinetic war as yet but it will soon enough.