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The Political Oracle says
George Soros certainly hates Trump! Trump wants a strong nation for all of us. Socialism is right on our doorstep and Putin is knocking! We will see what happens when Russia knocks Belarus down for trying democracy. Don’t need another Ukraine crisis. I am more skeptical about the vote count this election, so everyone should pay close attention to the developments we are about to experience. An MS-13 sympathizer could be installed in the White House if things go south. Know the Vote!
Paul J says
Putin is knocking on the doors of all the churches and cathedrals that have been built since he became President. To replace the ones the commies destroyed during the Soviet years. Like the ones the commies are now defacing and destroying in the rest of Europe and Nth America. You are still stuck in the cold war. The threat to the West IS NOT Russia but the enemy within our own countries; BLM, Feminism, LGBTQ and Liberalism; all whiteanted and infiltrated by marxists. Just as the media lie about Trump, so too they do about Putin. To distract and confuse the masses while they go about promoting the marxist agenda. The second war front is of course Islam.
Dorothy Davies says
Agreed, Paul J,. Putin strikes me as being more like the Tzars than the recent communist leaders. Marxists have certainly infiltrated the civil service etc. in Britain.
Jeff says
Amen!
Kenth Nilsson says
Paul J, I couldn’t have said it better myself, – nothing is more dangerous then islam!
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, Putin is also playing footsie with Muslims, enabling a nuclear Iran, selling arms to Turkey, opening a mega-Mosque in Moscow alongside Erdogan and Abbas, and allowing a Shari’ah state–Chechnya–right on Russian soil. I wish he was taking a strong stance against Islam, but this simply is not so.
Wellington says
Seconded, gravenimage. I trust Putin not at all and I don’t trust anyone who puts faith in Putin.
Work with the bastard but NEVER trust him. As a Russian student I taught some twenty years ago said to me when I asked him about the still unknown Putin, “Once KGB, always KGB.” Damn good call.
What Putin has done with his clearly internationally illegal annexation of the Crimea, his cyber attacks on the Baltic states, his contention, ludicrous as it was, that a highly limited missile defense in Poland and the Czech Republic actually threatened Russia (which Obama pusillanimously pulled out of and thus leaving the Poles and Czechs up the river with no paddle), his massive interference in the Caucasus, his many alliances with the greatest terrorist nation on earth, Iran, et al. is that he is your traditional Russian rogue leader, seeing enemies everywhere, not recognizing true enemies (e.g., Stalin with Hitler), and, effectively and stupidly, hating the West.
Russia never learns. Whether under Czars, First Secretaries or now Putin. It is a constant. A real reliability in a very unreliable world. And thus the West, especially America, should proceed accordingly upon this highly verifiable hypothesis.
curious says
@gravenimage and Wellington, +1
gravenimage says
Agreed, Wellington.
Daniel Triplett says
Agreed Paul. I don’t think Putin wants hostility with the West. He’s also become a strong Christian in his later years. From what I’ve read, he wants Russia to be considered part of Europe, rather than the boogeymen of the East that no one trusts. I think he’d prefer to be allies and friends with the West rather than adversaries.
He lives in a tough neighborhood surrounded by Muslims both within and lining his Southern border. He can’t confront Islam alone if the rest of us don’t join him. But I’m quite certain if we all did it together, he’d choose a world and Ummah liberated from Islam (forced proscription).
Sure, Vladamir Putin is no Mike Pence, but neither is he quite the monster that many make him out to be. If we could ally with Stalin and the Soviet Union to defeat the Third Reich, we could much more easily and with greater confidence ally with Putin and Russia to destroy Islam.
Like you said, it’s the Leftists from within whose ignorance and willful denial of Islam tie our hands preventing us from confronting it. They refuse to acknowledge the problem even if you lay out the logic and facts. The Right has a similar problem, but they seem to come around and yield to reason much sooner. Since Leftists already know-it-all, changing their minds about anything is impossible. The Left will be the death of us way before the Ummah can destroy America.
curious says
@Paul J, much of what you wrote is unfounded and/or totally mistaken.
For example, where did yhou hear that “commies” are destroying churches throughout western Europe and North America? Perhaps you should visit North America sometime; you will see whoever told you that was misleading you. At least in North America, churches remain standing; in western Europe, some few have been destroyed by Muslims, but not by communists.
You list a random assortment of conceptually discrete purported enemies within, including liberalism which is a cornerstone of western civilization, claiming they have all been “whiteanted” by Marxists. I had to look up “white-anted”, which is evidently an Australian term. If you insist that anywhere a Marxist goes, everyone who does not exclude him becomes your enemy, then you will end up drowning angrily and miserably in enemies.
As for LGTBQ, if you look for a friend, then you will find a friend; if you look for an enemy, then you will find an enemy. I was very pleased to see the people of Australia voted for marriage equality, as did the people of Ireland. I read elsewhere that Muslims lined up in droves to vote against, but were outnumbered by non-Muslims who voted in favor.
If you insist upon looking for enemies, then you might look at who is promoting Islamic invasion, e.g. the Pope and the Christian Orthodox Patriarch. You call Islam a “war front,” yet you seem to omit the Vatican and the Orthodox Christians from your list of enemies who have joined the Islamic side. The Pope and Patriarch are the official leaders of their respective flocks, so the “white-anting” has evidently spread from the foundations of their churches to the very steeples: they promote Islamic replacement of Christendom.
gravenimage says
Some good points.
CogitoErgoSum says
Trump recognizes that the U.S. is the only superpower on the planet. All the other Presidents since 1989 have been inept and lacking in the ability to inspire in us a belief that there is nothing wrong with that. Well, we are the world’s only superpower and there is nothing wrong with being the only superpower because we are the best and noblest of any people now living on this planet. We worked to make ourselves that way and we deserve what we have. All the other countries can learn from us and should try to be like us. We should not be acting as if we are ashamed of having made our lives better and, in doing so, having made the lives of others on this planet better too. True, we have made mistakes and are not perfect but we will not stop trying to do better, even if those more imperfect than we are want to make us stop trying because we make them look bad. They can join us in our march forward or get out of our way. When I was younger I thought we would have cities on the moon and Mars by now but instead we are arguing about whether or not 2+2 equals 4. Damn. We have to start believing in ourselves again. Trump knows this and he acts as if he knows it and he inspires me.
infidel says
Hear hear all the way from Hindu India. Thank God that the USA is the world’s superpower. Can U imagine some1 like Turkey in the place of the USA? Stuff of endless nightmares.
Greg Cuttance says
Absolutely agree with u guys .Trump is the best thing that has happened to the western world. May he long prevail otherwise we are stuffed . I’m from New Zealand and we have a communist prime minister who gained power thru our stupid un democratic MMP VOTING SYSTEM. Go Trumpy
Greg
mortimer says
Trump made a breakthrough among world leaders: before his election as president he opined, “I think Islam hates us. We have to get to the bottom of this hate.”
True words … but few Western leaders have a clue why Donald Trump was right.
The doctrine of Islamic hatred directed from Muslims against the dirty kufaar is called AL WALAA WAL BARAA.
I encourage all JW readers thoroughly master this doctrine and share it with as many people as possible.
http://westindanger.com/wb/walaa-baraa.html
Wellington says
Trump by way of great street instincts and you by way of pure knowledge, mortimer, have each arrived at the same correct conclusion about Islam, though by very different paths.
I look forward to the day when an American President gives a new Evil Empire speech. Islam is as deserving of this as was Communism.
gravenimage says
Agreed.
James Lincoln says
+10
James Lincoln says
mortimer,
To your point, the video clip.
By the way, can you imagine Sleepy Joe saying anything like this?
Donald Trump: ‘I think Islam hates us’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Zj0tfZY6o
David Corbett says
The President is right Islam hates US. Evidence: 9/11 and listen to Iran, Israel is little Satan and US big Satan. Terrorism is part of Islam. Islam is not a religion only it is a political Ideology. The teachings of Islam has been codified into their laws. US Constitution does not support this. Israel is hated by Iran, The day will come when Iran will invade Israel. It will not be nuclear but a land invasion. But the invasion will fail.
Rod says
Steve Bannon
Trump’s ex-adviser was arrested on Thursday for allegedly defrauding donors to ‘We Build the Wall’ campaign.
The difference Trump has made? After so many (an extraordinary number, increasing daily) of his associates have appeared in court or in gaol, one BIG difference Trump has made is to disgrace the office of President of the United States in the eyes of the world.
That’s not to mention his own contempt for the law, which has now become routine and hilariously predictable.
Lincoln, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy – courage, judgement, humility, wisdom, service – and then the Pussy-grabbing braggart.
Yes, Donald is different. Let’s hope there will never be another like him.
tgusa says
Bill Clinton and his oral office set the bar pretty low. Long before that Biden slept with another mans wife and lied about it. Can you name one democrat today that hasn’t cheated on their wife, had an affair with a friends wife, or had sex with any female they could find besides their wife?Why do democrats go to such lengths to have sex with anyone besides their wives? It is as if democrats are repelled by their spouses.
Rod says
Perhaps you’re right, tgusa. In that sort of society, a pussy-grabbing president, who attracts criminals like moths to a flame and appoints them to advise, assist and protect him, is the best you can hope for.
But what about the lies? And what’s concealed in those tax returns?
Would you want a man like that to be your president?
Oh, sorry! He is your president.
Joy Brower says
Rod, you’re obviously NOT an American Patriot, but still think that Roosevelt and Kennedy were sterling Presidents (Europeans ALWAYS love the socialist-leaning Presidents!). Let’s just say that whereas we don’t always understand YOUR “royalty,” you don’t really understand OUR leaders! And, IMHO, history (written by truth-tellers, not liberal liars!) will judge Trump to be a transformational President!
LB says
Riddle me this then: Who sucicided Jeffrey Epstein? Probably Trump, yep. Case closed!
tgusa says
Thanks but no need to be sorry he is my President. I will make you an offer Rod. Trumps tax returns for everyone else’s in the three branches of government. Many wealthy democrats set up non profit charitable foundations to avoid the tax man while paying themselves a salary and contributing next to nothing to charity. That too needs to be reexamined. Can you get behind that? In the real world a salary is a profit.
James Lincoln says
tgusa says,
“Why do democrats go to such lengths to have sex with anyone besides their wives? It is as if democrats are repelled by their spouses.”
The adulterer is looking for a quick thrill and a power trip.
Unless they get “found out”, they return to their wives as if nothing happened…
tgusa says
And thanks to democrats and their supporters contempt for the law and anyone who disagrees with them every person in America needs a surveillance system.
CogitoErgoSum says
I see Rod adheres to the idea that a man is guilty until proven innocent. Why am I not surprised?
gravenimage says
So true.
Rod says
Manafort? Cohen? Flynn? Need I go on, Cogito?
Guilty until pardoned by the president might be more apt.
The wicked Barons of Transylvania used to pardon the criminals who were their friends. That was about 500 years ago. It’s so nice to see some people keeping to the old ways.
CogitoErgoSum says
While we are at it why don’t we just scrutinize each and every President of the U.S. since it was founded. Have some fun with it and make me smile by calling Trump President Pussy-grabber again. I enjoy that one. Which President do you think is the best and which is the worst? And do you think David Atchison should qualify as having been President for just one day? He would probably win for least corrupt – if he counts.
Anyway, drag my country down some more. It’s the world’s favorite pastime. Here is the list for you from Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States#Executive_branch_25
Rod says
Cogito, evaluate your presidents if you want to. I’m not so interested. But I do know some were more admired than… others.
I’m glad you enjoy references to the presidential pussy-grabber. I find it abhorrent, but I’m using Mr Trump’s own language about his own behaviour, and it’s something he seemed proud of.
CogitoErgoSum says
Yeah, it would require some work of you, Rod. Sorry about that. Afraid I have never heard Trump refer to himself as President Pussy-grabber but if you find it abhorant I hope he mentions it in his acceptance speech for the nomination at whatever kind of convention the Republicans decide upon. When he says pussy-grabber I’ll think of you. Keep on the sunny side of the street, my friend, and may the blue-bird of happiness drop some cheer upon you when you least expect it.
Phil Copson says
The fact that you choose to use General Michael Flynn as an example of criminal behaviour when you know perfectly well that the case against him was faked by corrupt FBI officials, shows that nothing you say should be heeded.
No, you don’t need to go on, and better that you don’t.
Joy Brower says
Rod, you’re an ignorant jerk! Do you NOT know that Gen. Flynn – a GREAT American patriot! – was railroaded and set-up by the CROOKED & CORRUPT Federal Gov’t (via Obama and his rotten minions in the FBI!!) in order to force him (they did NOT succeed!) to lie about Trump! They threatened him and his family with ruin if he did NOT agree to, in essence, lie – and then they used THAT against him. He was trying to save his son from also being railroaded, which was a mistake, in that he had to lie. But the President knows all the crap that went on behind the scenes and ordered his case to be dismissed. After the election, my guess is that Trump will issue him a full pardon.
Brian Ozzy says
There were more crooks, bottom feeders and scumbags in the Obama coterie than you could count, including the treasonous headman, but for some reason there seems to be a different, much more lenient law for Democrats and none of his despicable henchmen have yet got their just deserts. There are a lot of people hoping against hope that the Republicans will grow some spine and start using Democrat dirty tricks against them. Obama was the worst, most despicable and treasonous President America has ever suffered under!
Left Coast says
Both Manafort & Flynn were set up by Obama’s corrupt DOJ & FBI . . . try to keep up man . . . Cohen created his own problems . . .
You are certifiable Rod . . . you don’t want to talk about the idiot Obama who Droned US Citizens or his Sec State ole Hillarious Klinton who enriched her Foundation sellilng out the US Uranium Industry to the Russians . . . why doesn’t the Southern District of NY investigate and audit the Klinton Foundation?
Remember Obama’s two AGs? Most corrupt pair in US history . . .
Next you’ll be saying Russia, Russia, Russia . . . How about we investigate Obama’s Soldiers, BLM & Antifa now destroying US Cities and Minting Trump Voters by the Millions ! ! !
Rod says
Thanks for all those comments, rational, irrational and abusive – the usual mix.
My conclusion – your comments about trials and convictions suggest that the US justice system is as screwed up as everything else in Trumpistan. After four years of so very many hand-picked hirings and sudden, unexpected firings. Time for radical change, surely?
tgusa says
If you are angry about the state of affairs in the USA Rod you should consider that it didn’t happen overnight. The state of affairs in the USA took decades to get to this point not four years of President Trump. You are only angry because you support the old use America status quo but most of us don’t care what you think as you are not an American.
CogitoErgoSum says
This is the kind of justice system Rod wants for America because, you know, Trump is a pussy-grabber and the police are just thugs and racists and Black Lives Matter:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KknC2eZLtsFz/
gravenimage says
“Rod’s” implication that if there are unjust convictions of conservatives that the answer is throw out conservatives and vote in leftists makes as much sense as most of his comments here.
Rod says
“If you are angry about the state of affairs in the USA Rod you should consider that it didn’t happen overnight.”
Tgusa, Trump’s debasement of the office of POTUS, and transformation of the party of Lincoln into the weird collection of obsessives we see today took a mere four years. It began with e.g. “You can grab them by the pussy”, and the pretence by supporters that this was insignificant. It continued with revelations of payments to prostitutes, not for services rendered, but to protect his sleazy reputation. Then the lies (18,000?), dubious practices, nepotism, innumerable ill-advised placings of friends in high places, then dismissals of critics or enemies, stupid and dangerous pretences of expertise about Covid-19, and so on and on. And always, division, contempt, insults for all who differed. Yet those who hold power through him, seem to be deaf and blind.
Then there are his petty attempts to destroy agencies like WHO, UN, NATO, which farsighted statesmen worked to create over decades to ensure a more peaceful and prosperous world.
Do you have any idea of what an ignorant fool Trump appears to be around the world? What a danger to all of us? It’s not funny. When we once revered the USA and its people for their sacrifice, wisdom, heroism in the 1940s.
Angry, tgusa? No, but I detest people who, with so much they should apologise for, feel they can ridicule and vilify others, spreading more hatred, division and lies, when tolerance and understanding are so desperately needed – in your country as much as anywhere.
Wellington says
JFK was utterly reckless when President by his many dalliances with dozens of women, many of whom were prostitutes. Secret Service personnel were gravely concerned about the element of blackmail.
Kennedy was massively selfish in all the risks he took sexually while President. I would recommend, among other works, that deal with the highly irresponsible actions by JFK, that by Seymour Hersh, “The Dark Side of Camelot.” Read this work and you will realize what wrongs Trump has engaged in very much pale by comparison.
And I dispute your contention that Trump has contempt for the law. Quite the contrary in fact. He is against sanctuary cities which defy federal law and which are defended by Democrats. He also believes in secure borders and that those who enter the US illegally should be dealt with to the full extent of the law, all the while Democrats want to give illegals such things as free health care and driver licenses. Just like you, Rod, to get matters ass backwards.
Finally, the “pussy-grabbing” you keep bringing up about Trump occurred BEFORE his Presidency and was CONSENSUAL. I am not defending it ethically but nothing illegal transpired.
Rod says
Sexual assault is contempt for the law. Boasting about it is contempt for the law. It is never, by definition, consensual. Many female acquaintances of the Pussy-grabber have so attested.
Nothing done by JFK or by anybody else lessens the gravity of Trump’s offences in any way whatsoever. Nor does the year or the decade in which they were perpetrated.
Similarly, many who know more than I about the law have described some of Trump’s actions as criminal. Of course, in the strange land where Trump holds power, nothing the president does can be illegal, so technically, you may be right. In other more advanced societies where the law is the law and all men are equal, things are done differently.
Joy Brower says
SO disgusting to read the nasty remarks of a totally ignorant foreigner! I think people like Rod – who suffers from a very advanced case of TDS! – just like to troll Conservative, pro-Trump sites and make themselves obnoxious!
Wellington says
No sexual assault charge against Trump has gone anywhere. Innocent until proven guilty, Rod. And I brought up JFK because you lauded him and didn’t mention anything about how he compromised national security by his addiction to sex.
Demsci says
Rod, Presumably your characterization of “pussy-grabber” is based on that “bombshell revelation“ of Donald Trump, yes, admittedly, boasing about what some women let him do. To Billy Bush.
To many and me too, this revelation a few weeks befor the election, seemed to finally definitely “sank” irreparably his chances for the presidency. The Democrats and mainstream media (MSM largely being a part of Dems) already gloated. Ha, they (And you) were rudely disappointed.
I for one however surmise that Trump, being a billionaire, is also a target for “gold-digging’ women, who, when they think they can get something (“big bucks”, maybe connections) from him, will go to great lengths with sexual favors.
So consensual “pussy-grabbing”. He would never do this to any resisting unwilling woman.
Indeed not very classy, but his voters were aware of both “his virtues and his vices”. They like the package anyway, even the evangelicals en masse.
How dumb would it be to let such a minor consideration as consensual sex outside marriage decide such the crucial decision of voting for candidate. How myopic to base your judgement on that natural male behavior of both participants. How stupid to select/ prioritize based primarlly on that sexual aspect.
And ….Joe Biden very probably did sexually assault Tara Reade.
Michael Chernick says
Rod is holding up well against an onslaught in this generally right wing atmosphere of denial. All partisans, left or right, operate in a state of partial denial and I say so about NYT as well. For example you can erase all of Flynn’s current domestic judicial infamy and still find that he used his inside contacts to sell rare super surveillance equipment to corrupt Mexican pols to undermine the opposition which led to their vulnerability and murder. Flynn did it all for money and did not have the dignity of Lt General Jack Bergman who parlayed his military experience to continue serving us currently as a Republican congressman in Michigan. If Flynn had the creds he would have fought his way up and out of his dilemma; that is what warriors do. Further, with Trump at the helm why were there no prosecutions or even proof of undue prosecution? I chose Trump over Hillary and glad of it. He did great things vs Iran with Soleimani. But look at the deficit: he gave Erdogan the go ahead to attack our Kurdish allies who operate secularly, above their Muslim background which Erdogan can’t tolerate. The Kurds have the spirit to crush Turkey if they had the population and weapons that we sold Turkey. Following that Erdogan reversed Ataturk’s statesmanlike secularism and turned Hagia Sophia into a mosque, guiding Turks backward toward frenzied Islamism. Trump ostensibly is protecting his hotel interest in Istanbul, just as he dreams of one in Moscow. Trump thinks he can ride his way to emperor of the planet with his coarse materialism. As Voltaire said, once is an experience, twice is a perversion. Biden is keeping his lefties in check and using lip service to get as many votes as possible just like Trump did when he drew so broadly from the right that he gave license to a sick young man in Charlotte who who murdered a young woman by droving his car into a crowd. The very conservative NFU (National Farmers Union), last newsletter, describes how reliant their rural members are on USPS for quick cheap delivery of baby chicks, and they are now arriving dead after first engendering maggots and flies as they rot on Post Office shelves. Loosen the grip on your swords before your knuckles break.
gravenimage says
“Rod” is a regular apologist for Islam–but Michael Chernick here seems to be impressed.
And the claim that Biden is “keeping his lefties in check” while issuing groveling apologies to Muslim supremacist Linda Sarsour is just bizarre.
“Biden camp apologizes privately for throwing anti-Semite Linda Sarsour under the bus”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/08/biden-camp-apologizes-privately-for-throwing-anti-semite-linda-sarsour-under-the-bus
And the idea that Trump “gave license” to driving a car into a crowd of people is just sickening calumny.
And I suppose this last, “Loosen the grip on your swords before your knuckles break” means to roll over for the horrors Islam. No thank you…
David says
Rod — only reason he’s different is because he doesn’t obstruct justice like your besom buddy B H Obama, who abused his office to implement one of the biggest coercion and intimidation campaigns since the Nazis took over Germany. And BHO conned America twice so he could continue to orchestrate USA’s demise on the world stage. Thank God DJT is first and foremost a red blooded patriot not some commie mussleman globalist like your bosom (besom) buddy BHO.
Left Coast says
That is the stupidest comment on this Thread man . . .
Barry Obama DISGRACED the office of President of the USA . . . walked all over the Constitution and you Cheered ! Billie Klinton sole out the USA to the Chinese . . . and you Cheered !
FDR was another racist progressive fraud . . . and you Cheered !
“Pussy-grabbing” . . . it was a comment on the Holleyweird loons in private my idiot friend.
Meanwhile the rapist & pedophile Billie Klinton gets a pass in your weak mind ! ! !
tgusa says
Its not like there aren’t plenty of women out there that would love to have their pussy grabbed by a multimillionaire which is exactly what Trump said in that interview. I do ok but I’m no multimillionaire and even I know that to be true. It is a sad reflection on some parts of society.
gravenimage says
I am not a particular fan of locker room talk, but that is all this was.
Giacomo Latta says
Antifaman,
Right on! Kennedy had the courage to take Marilyn Monroe for a spin, the judgement to not tell his wife about it, the humility to not brag about it, the wisdom to not try it too often. I presume Marilyn appreciated the servicing. And all this is so much not worse than Donald’s jock talk. That’s quite the ethical morass you live in! Even Roosevelt (FDR I presume) had his wandering hands and would have done more had he been physically up to it. I’m sure all your heroes (Stalin, Mao Tse Tung ,and many, many, many more as you would say) were all class acts.
What really bugs you and your ilk is the fact that you were responsible for Trump’s election. You and the MSM were falling over laughing at the Republican campaign. There were eight candidates but only one ever got any attention. There were thousands in attendance at Times Square ready to celebrate but instead there was total silence. How sad for you, poor boy!
Terry Gain says
Rod
People like you need to pay more attention to what Obama said. Videos of his idiocy and treachery are still available. You might start with his June 4, 2009 speech in Cairo with its obsequious praise for and lies about Islam. Then there is the video in which Obama acknowledges that Iran is free to develop nuclear weapons as soon as his 10 year deal expires. Imagine that, he gave Iran $150 billion in return for an unenforcible promise not to develop nuclear weapons for all of 10 years. I know he was innumerate, but seriously, did he confuse 10 years with a millennium? Another one of my favourite Obamaisms is his statement that ISIS could not be defeated militarily, but only by a better idea. As if Christianity, or even moderate Islam, isn’t a better idea than what ISIS practised.
There are many more such idiotic statements by Obama. Don’t let the fact that the media ignored Obama’s idiocy deter you from conducting your own research. And in the interest of fairness, always remember that despite his much criticized failings President Donald Trump, unlike his predecessor,will never organize a coup against his successor.
President Trump cancelled the insane Iran deal and destroyed ISIS within 3 years. In addition to the boom economy he created and the recent peace developments in the Middle East Donald Trump‘s presidency has been a success by any rational measure.
Barack Obama accomplished nothing in his 8 years except to stir up racial resentment. He did so by supporting false narratives. Neither crime statistics nor economic statistics support the false narrative of Black Lives Matter.In order to believe that narrative you have to accept that Americans are systemically racist against Blacks but not against Asians. You do know that the average income of Asians is higher than white people, don’t you?
America elected Barack Obama to put its racist Democrat Party past in the rearview mirror. Barack Obama thanked America by using false narratives to gin up racism against the white people who elected him. The unfortunate killings of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown were completely justified self-defense. A decent human being would not have politicized those killings.
gravenimage says
Terry, I don’t think that “Rod” is ignorant about Obama–I think he approves.
Michael Chernick says
Terry Gains, you are a total wacko partisan: “killings of Trayvon Martin….completely justified self defense.” The police dispatcher told the killer to leave Martin alone, it is a recorded call and order. All he had to do was drive away. From the prior altercation he knew Martin, perhaps a stoned, arrogant, violent man was unarmed, but his little boy ego could not handle getting whipped by a tougher guy, so he deliberately got his gun and shot Martin dead. The arch conservative jury wanted the world to know that they protect ANYONE who protects them, even a murderer. Now the killer travels in fear of all the people who know of his cowardice. The trial was likely a sham based on historically biased Florida law (I lived there, and studied it). Why was the killer not tried first for disobeying a lawful order, “Leave him (Martin ) alone”? By the way, I am very pro law enforcement and think that children from a very young age should be taught polite and faithful deference to police. Even cops when they are young have fragile egos and nothing legitimately scares them more than some wacko who shows blatant contempt for them. It is a societal problem and BLM is front and center bcz of our callousness, too busy to correct wrongs, and refine police procedure as Consent Decrees do. Trump, who I chose, flatters the cops and soldiers who protect his banks but really does not care about them or their occasional victims. Why would you discourage the training of young testosterone laden men who just got their official license to carry a weapon? Trump, once is an experience but twice is a perversion. Voltaire.
Daniel Triplett says
Presumably you recognize the existential global Islamic threat, and seek solutions to counter it, which is why you’re spending time on Robert Spencer’s website, learning from his wealth of knowledge. I assume you also enjoy exchanging knowledge and ideas with others who also value Robert’s writing, recognize the threat, and wish to contribute to the body of knowledge and ideas, collaborating to develop objectives, plans, and strategies to one day win the war.
So, why can’t you appreciate this about Donald Trump? The POTUS is the CINC. The POTUS alone makes foreign policy. The POTUS alone makes ROE in war. Without the POTUS on board, we lose wars, we don’t win them.
Is loyalty to the Democrat party more important to you than winning the Islamic War?
Not since Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and John Q. Adams has a POTUS understood as much about the Islamic threat as Donald Trump. Caliph Obama did, but he advocated for Ummah rather than Kafirs. Maybe Trump doesn’t know everything about Islam yet, but he has a real strong whiff of the truth, and has his eyes and mind open to learning more about it if we could somehow get the briefing to him in front of his eyes and past the firewall.
He has his hands busy right now just trying to re-elected, but I’m hoping if everyone redoubles efforts to get the message to him, then maybe in his next term he would commission an objective task force, including Spencer, but no Muslims, to honestly analyze Islam, the Ummah, the trilogy source texts, Islam’s motive methods and mission, modern Islamic strategies, the many forms of jihad, and strategies to win and end the 1400 year zero-sum Global War of Islamic Manifest Destiny.
Name one Democrat POTUS or politician who’s ever had clear eyes about Islam. Obama did more to advance Islam than any American has ever done. And Biden has made his intentions with Islam clear, promoting it in schools, rescinding travel bans, inviting more Muslim immigration, forcing Islamic settlements in cities using Minneapolis as a model to destroy the rest of American cities, and so much more.
Biden and Harris have no business being in power, due to Islam alone, not to mention the other 10,000 reasons. If you can’t support Trump for any other reason, then support him for this.
You seem quite concerned about Trump’s sex life.
Regarding the “pussy grabbing” talk, every man speaks privately alone with other men differently than when speaking publicly. I know I do. Trump thought the conversation was private. He was not talking of things he had done, rather he was speaking of things one can do when you’re a charming, charismatic, good-looking billionaire like he’s been in his life.
I wouldn’t know what it’s like to have that kind of over the top star power and appeal with women. I doubt you do either. But just because a man can get to second base with a woman in a fraction of time as you and I can doesn’t make him a sexual predator. He spoke of “consensual” touching. That’s not a crime no matter how fast it happens, nor is it a crime to brag about it. Guys like Trump don’t need to sexually assault women. They naturally want to be with him. Do you think women would respond to Tom Selleck’s advances differently than with regular guys’? Until you’ve walked in such shoes, how can we judge what that’s like? Most men would capitalize on such power. I know I would.
Moreover, all alleged sexual dalliances happened before Trump held elected office. No one doubts his sexual purity since. Compare that to your Dem heroes, most of whom used their title and power of office to adulterize with women. Senator Joe Biden slept with his good friend’s wife (Jill) stealing her to be his own. Biden also enjoyed secretly driving his friend’s Corvette while he was nailing his wife, eventually crashing it, which is how he learned of the affair. Senator Joe “Fingers” Biden also sexually assaulted Tara Reade, his staffer in 1993. There are hundreds of video clips of Creepy Joe with his inappropriate affection touching women and girls.
Perhaps you’re too hard on Trump. He loves America, he puts our country first, and he’s clued in better than any other national figure to defend us from Islam.
gravenimage says
“Rod” is a longtime Muslim apologist.
Daniel Triplett says
Ahh, got it. Thanks. My RADAR was down.
gravenimage says
No problem, Daniel–it’s hard to keep track of them all.
Eric MacDonald says
No of course it isn’t the salient issue. It’s just one issue, however important, and Trump has been a marked failure at doing anything about it. What has he really done? What has he said that has had a lasting effect? He’s an international laughing stock, so anything he does or says is simply cancelled through by his stupidity. And he is perhaps the most stupid president ever to hold the office. There are too many instances to bother mentioning. Just look at a routine interview and you should be able to spot them all by yourself.
gravenimage says
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No of course it isn’t the salient issue.
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The idea that how Trump has acted to keep Americans safe from Jihad is not salient re keeping Americans safe from Jihad is just bizarre..
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It’s just one issue, however important, and Trump has been a marked failure at doing anything about it. What has he really done? What has he said that has had a lasting effect?
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Even before the Coronavirus lockdown, Muslim emigration into the United States was down *90%*–that actually seems quite notable. And given that Joe Biden says that he will destroy the “Muslim ban”, how would he do a better job here? Of course, Eric MacDonald will not say.
“Biden pledges to end Trump’s ‘Muslim ban’ on his first day in office”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/20/biden-pledges-to-end-trumps-muslim-ban-on-his-first-day-in-office.html
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He’s an international laughing stock, so anything he does or says is simply cancelled through by his stupidity.
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Even if this were true vis-a-vis the President’s international reputation–which Eric MacDonald has offered no proof of–how would this affect a *domestic policy*? Of course, this poster will not say.
Then, how is a good policy cancelled by the (supposed) stupidity of the person who instigates it? How would this phenomenon even work?
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And he is perhaps the most stupid president ever to hold the office. There are too many instances to bother mentioning. Just look at a routine interview and you should be able to spot them all by yourself.
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This is standard for shoddy scholarship–claim that something is so widely known that no examples need to be presented.
Eric MacDonald says
‘Of course, Eric MacDonald will not say.’
‘Of course, this poster will not say.’
And then, of course, there is ‘This is standard for shoddy scholarship–claim that something is so widely known that no examples need be presented.’
And yet you say, gravenimage, that my scholarship is shoddy.
Let’s start at the end. Ever heard a guy bragging about acing a test meant to determine whether you’re suffering from dementia, saying that the last few questions are really hard — like counting back from 100 by 7? Got news for you. That’s stupid.
And what about injecting bleach?
Or thinking that Puerto Rico is in the open ocean?
Or trying to buy Greenland, and then cancelling a state visit because the PM of Denmark won’t play?
Come on, the guy’s almost certifiable.
Then, what about being a laughing stock, internationally? Well, look at what happens when you are.
Heads of state, other than dictators, ignore you, that’s what?
Trump wants to snap back sanctions on Iran? The UN Security Council, not being Trump toadies, wouldn’t support him.
Besides, consider the degree to which he is a laughing stock domestically. Remember the perilous climb down a ramp at West Point?
Or the idiocy about shower heads and perfect hair?
Or going off on tangents when giving speeches, going on about irrelevancies?
Or the repeated mispronunciation of words like Yosemite. Let’s get real! The man is deservedly a laughing stock.
You can find more if you like.
As for Islam being the salient issue. It’s an issue, there’s no denying that, but it’s not the only one, and probably not the most important one. But that’s the only issue that comments here seem to highlight, as if it were the only one. Banning Muslims is not really all that helpful. It may keep Muslims out of the US, but it makes them seem the wounded party, and simply encourages the defence of Islam in so many other nations. Islam is either a danger to all of us, or it is not a danger at all. Making Islam look like the injured party, which is what a ban on immigration looks like, helps Islam instead of hindering it. By all means bring concerns forward, and try to deal with them, but don’t give ammunition to Islam to make them look victims of injustice. Even in the US, as you point out, there are many people who defend Islam, because, as many people see it, they are being victimised. Grand gestures like banning Muslim immigration doesn’t really help all that much. Convincing people that Islam is a danger, and showing in what respects this is true, would accomplish more. I’ve already said that Islam is a danger. Christianity may also be a danger, as some on the extreme US right prove. Let’s make Islam less of one by using reason, instead of attacking it with blunt instruments. Robert Spenser does a lot by showing the ways in which Islam is dangerous. But he also goes to extremes, by suggesting that Islam can’t be anything else. There are texts of violence in practically all religions, including Buddhism, for instance, often thought to be solely peace loving. And Christianity is imagined to be all about peace and love. If so, where did the history of Christian anti-Jewish pogroms come from? Some people exaggerate that too. And it is exaggerated judgements — such as supposing Trump is one of the best American presidents — that don’t help one bit. Simply being a Trump sycophant will accomplish nothing, especially when so much of what he does is a danger to the US Constitution.
And most of all, don’t suppose what Eric MacDonald will not say. That’s just shoddy scholarship. And, by the way, not much that is written here resembles scholarship, nor should we be surprised. Comment streams online are best at snap judgements, poorly thought through, laden with emotion, and ephemeral. Don’t pretend they are anything else.
gravenimage says
Eric MacDonald wrote:
‘Of course, Eric MacDonald will not say.’
‘Of course, this poster will not say.’
And then, of course, there is ‘This is standard for shoddy scholarship–claim that something is so widely known that no examples need be presented.’
And yet you say, gravenimage, that my scholarship is shoddy.
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Well, it certainly has been so far.
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Let’s start at the end. Ever heard a guy bragging about acing a test meant to determine whether you’re suffering from dementia, saying that the last few questions are really hard — like counting back from 100 by 7? Got news for you. That’s stupid.
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Most of this is braggadocio. Not my favorite style, but also not of much import. I actually don’t much care whether the president can count backward by sevens or not–I consider his acting to keep Americans safe from Jihad of more import.
Then, the idea that heads of state–save dictators–refuse to speak to the American president is obviously not the case.
Then, notice that Eric MacDonald crows over the UN enabling a nuclear Iran. Besides this twitting Trump, what does this accomplish? Does he care at all, just so long as it irks the American president? It appears not–this is actually *very* troubling.
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As for Islam being the salient issue. It’s an issue, there’s no denying that, but it’s not the only one, and probably not the most important one.
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I have already noted that Trump’s actions re keeping Americans safe from Jihad compared to the likely actions of the other candidates is the salient issue re Jihad. Eric MacDonald keeps pretending that he is unable to grasp this.
Would Hilary Clinton have kept us safer? Will Biden, already toadying to Linda Sarsour?
I doubt that this is of concern to Eric MacDonald, of curse. Certainly, he has not said that this is.
What does Eric MacDonald actually consider to be of greater import? This is rather like condemning Churchill for focusing on the Nazis.
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But that’s the only issue that comments here seem to highlight, as if it were the only one. Banning Muslims is not really all that helpful. It may keep Muslims out of the US, but it makes them seem the wounded party, and simply encourages the defence of Islam in so many other nations.
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Wait–is Eric MacDonald claiming that if Muslims attack other Western nations that it is the fault of Donald Trump for not allowing Jihadists to flood in here? This is a truly sick claim.
Besides, Muslims are *already* attacking Western nations, and have been for decades–the idea that they would only do so because Trump is not allowing them to immigrate in large numbers here is utterly bizarre.
Is Eric MacDonald hoping that we have forgotten the Madrid Train bombing, the London Tube bombings, the murder of Theo van Gogh, the Glasgow Airport attack, the attack on Kurt Westergaard, the shootings in Toulouse, the beheading of Lee Rigby, the Brussels Jewish Museum shooting, the Thalys Train attack, and the 2015 Paris attacks–these attacks all preceded the election of Trump.
And if Muslims really attacked just because another country curbed Muslim immigration–absurd as this claim is–how would this indicate that other nations allowing untrammeled Muslim immigration is a good thing? It would, instead, argue just the opposite.
Really, this just shows that other nations in the West should act to curb Jihad immigration as well.
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Islam is either a danger to all of us, or it is not a danger at all. Making Islam look like the injured party, which is what a ban on immigration looks like, helps Islam instead of hindering it. By all means bring concerns forward, and try to deal with them, but don’t give ammunition to Islam to make them look victims of injustice.
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In other words, you cannot prevent Jihadists from pouring into the West, or else they will just claim another reason why they have the right to murder us–never mind that there will be millions more of them to carry out Jihad terror attacks against us.
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Even in the US, as you point out, there are many people who defend Islam, because, as many people see it, they are being victimised. Grand gestures like banning Muslim immigration doesn’t really help all that much. Convincing people that Islam is a danger, and showing in what respects this is true, would accomplish more.
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The idea that these are mutually exclusive is, of course, quite absurd.
And President Trump has indeed noted that Islam presents a danger to us.
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I’ve already said that Islam is a danger. Christianity may also be a danger, as some on the extreme US right prove.
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Where are Christians waging violent Jihad against us?
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Let’s make Islam less of one by using reason, instead of attacking it with blunt instruments. Robert Spenser does a lot by showing the ways in which Islam is dangerous. But he also goes to extremes, by suggesting that Islam can’t be anything else.
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What rot. Robert Spencer has indeed noted that there are some non-violent texts in Islam. This *does not change* Muslims acting on the diktats of Islam to attack and subjugate Infidels, whatever Eric MacDonald may pretend.
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There are texts of violence in practically all religions, including Buddhism, for instance, often thought to be solely peace loving. And Christianity is imagined to be all about peace and love. If so, where did the history of Christian anti-Jewish pogroms come from?
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The claim that every action of Christians is based on Christianity is of course absurd. Can Eric MacDonald find anything in the Gospels calling on Christians to attack Jews? Of course not.
But Muslims do indeed act on the commands that they attack non-Muslims all to time–there are almost 40,000 Jihad terror attack just since 9/11.
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Some people exaggerate that too. And it is exaggerated judgements — such as supposing Trump is one of the best American presidents — that don’t help one bit. Simply being a Trump sycophant will accomplish nothing, especially when so much of what he does is a danger to the US Constitution.
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In other words, the ‘filthy Infidels’ have no right to express opinions. That is certainly true under Islam.
And how is the American President a threat to the Constitution? By preventing more Muslims–over half of which want to see that Constitution destroyed and replaced with Shari’ah law–to flood into the country?
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And most of all, don’t suppose what Eric MacDonald will not say. That’s just shoddy scholarship. And, by the way, not much that is written here resembles scholarship, nor should we be surprised. Comment streams online are best at snap judgements, poorly thought through, laden with emotion, and ephemeral. Don’t pretend they are anything else.
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Well, now we know what Eric MacDonald will say, rather than just speculating–and its generally not impressive.
Then, the claim that all posts on comments streams involve shoddy scholarship is *quite* false–although now we see why Eric MacDonald would believe this, given the example of his own.
Michael Chernick says
Wake up Daniel. Under Trump and his desire to maintain his name atop the hotel in Istanbul, Erdogan has found cooperation from Trump to elevate his Islamism: attacking Kurds, turning Hagia Sophia into a mosque, and oppressing secular opposition in the electorate including the jailing of journalists and others. All you were doing is watching Trump’s tough talk and actions vs Iran. It’s an old magic trick: watch the hand that moves quickly while the other hand pickpockets you. Great 4 years to wake up America, better if he understood more about it and was more articulate. Way better than Bush who invited 911, and then made money for his donors with a useless war that caved our treasury. Now let’s save the farmers who can no longer rely on the post office to get live chicks delivered in packages before they die in the box.
gravenimage says
How is Biden apt to be better than Trump?
And how did Bush “invite” 9/11?
ELI says
Bottom line: as long as you hate Muslims (and support Israel) jihadwatchers will support you no matter what you do (corruption, rape, lying etc)..
Wellington says
I hate Islam and some Muslims. Most Muslims I do not hate though I think all Muslims are confused human beings and some are pure evil PRECISELY because they are such devout Muslims.
Islam is evil and no other major religion is. Islam requires death for apostasy (e.g., Sura 4:89) and actually sanctions rape (e.g., Suras 4, 23, 33 and 70). It is the only major faith that calls for war to be made upon mankind “until all religion is with Allah.” {Sura 8:39} Well over 100 verses in the Koran testify to this martial directive. There is so much wrong with Islam that is not wrong with other major religions that, after a while, one can lose count of all the awful crap to be found in Mo’s creed.
ELI says
Hi Wellington, I understand your position on Islam but I think you tolerate behavior in Trump you would never accept if it came from Obama. That goes for most jihadwatchers.
You’re not the only ones doing this, the left does this as well.
gravenimage says
There were those who considered Churchill’s strong stance against Fascism important, as well.
Wellington says
What behavior, ELI? Spell it out.
Never have I objected to Obama’s “behavior.” Rather, I have objected to his policies, including monitoring AP reporters, using the IRS to target conservative groups, passing off the Iran nuclear deal as an Executive Order when it was clearly a treaty which should have been submitted to the Senate (where it would have easily failed the two thirds requirement per the Constitution) and making excuse after excuse for Islam.
I also decry Obama co-sponsoring with Egypt UN Resolution 16/18 that would, effectively, criminalize criticism of religion, and thus went DIRECTLY against the First Amendment to the Constitution, a Constitution Obama swore to uphold, which constitution guarantees free speech (also freedom of religion and Islam allows neither for true free speech nor fortrue freedom of religion).
So, it’s your turn now, ELI. I think Islam sucks, Obama did too, and I also think that Trump is the greatest force for traditional Western freedom in spite of any faults he may have. Go ahead and try to prove me wrong. Oh yeah, your turn.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Wellington.
wpm says
Bottom line as long as you hate Jihad terror(and support the free legal country of Israel) you will be labeled a bigot , evil white supremacist by many in the MSM .You will be called a rapist .corrupted , Trump is a deeply faulted man who has lead a very public life (marry 4 times, lead a playboy life style for many years)If you can find any proof or present any proof he rape anyone,in his hiring process as a major real estate developer has done any racial “profiling” in hiring employees or selling real estate anywhere in the world?Your evidence is based on hear say rumors ,gossip , the progressive witch hunt with help of the MSM looking for the Russians , or anyone else that threw an election in 2016.All that have on Trump is he has a very corrosive unpolished personality ,and is very disagreeable when crossed .None of that is illegal ,corrupt ,or is proof he is lying about what he intends to do.He (Trump) gets angry when called a rapist,corrupt,evil bigoted ,white supremacist with no evidence,so it must be true .Over three years of witch trails held by leading democrats has shown no hard evidence but hear say.If he is elected I am sure we can look forward to four more years of going down the rabbit hole.
gravenimage says
Good analysis, wpm.
wpm says
I meant to say if elected to a second term
Eric MacDonald says
I’ve been following you for years (and saving your daily tally of the risks posed by Islam), mainly because main-stream commentary doesn’t seem to me to have assessed the implications of Islam with sufficient understanding as to the long-term risks of Muslim immigration. However, there have also been signs that the same applies to the lack of insight of those on the right who misunderstand the meaning of the West. Robert Spencer seems to me to have understood the danger of Islam, but to have underestimated the harm that right-wing opinion also does, because its shrillness and exaggeration make it less likely that his warnings will be heeded. This lack of judgement and reason is obvious in re his evaluation of President Trump, whose lying, failure to defend the Constitution of the United States, self-dealing, and inability to laugh at himself, thus leading him to serious corruption, and failure to live up to the solemn office that he holds, simply cannot underwrite Spencer’s assessment of his presidency as one of the greatest presidents. This seems to me a serious failure of judgement, and it unfortunately makes his assessment of the dangers of Islam more, not less likely, to work themselves out in the years ahead. If, Mr Spencer, you really want to alert us to this danger, you must show some measure of self-awareness, something which is also, sadly, lacking in the president you admire. I have therefore deleted all your Jihad Watch Daily
Loren Rosson says
Though I disagree with Robert’s assessment of Trump, I respect his opinions, and he does make an interesting case for Trump in his book Rating the Presidents that challenged my thinking. I would submit that deleting JW Daily is poor way of handling disagreement. In any case, Eric, you should read Robert’s book and see what you think. It’s better than most president rankings, which are too indebted to the legacy of Arthur Schlesinger. Most historians in this vein favor presidents who are charismatic, effective (even if the successful policies were bad), and liberally activist. Robert focuses on the presidents’ policies filtered through the lens of the Constitution (which after all is what the president swears to uphold), and how those policies impacted American welfare. I agree closely with the vast majority of his assessments, and I consider Rating the Presidents an important book.
Wellington says
Eric MacDonald: Please provide examples of Trump’s “lying, failure to defend the Constitution of the United States, self-dealing…..” Generalizations without examples are worthless.
gravenimage says
Wait–the right wing is as big a threat as Islam to the West because it is “shrill”? And an inability to laugh at oneself presents a threat to the Constitution?
And how does shrillness and an inability to laugh at oneself (even if I agreed with these assessments) mean that Islam is more likely to prevail? This makes little sense.
And is Eric MacDonald here turning his back on the Counter Jihad because he disagrees with Robert Spencer’s rating of the most Anti-Jihad president of our times?
wpm says
Yes the “right wing” is a strong force marching in the streets ,burning and down businesses, promoting violence in major democrat controlled cities.They want the police to be defunded so they can run wild in the streets ,they force big corporations to run messages of support for their causes or donate money to their causes or face boycotts..They have the MSM,the music industry,the sports industry,the entertainment industry on their side .It is the right wingers who are calling for not following federal laws ,for the overthrowing of the election process,for censuring of free speech because it “hurts some peoples feelings”.We have a very mean man as President who cannot laugh off being called a white supremacist,a rapist,a thief,and corrupt ,all based on three years of false accusations based on hear say.Yes his (trump) “inability to laugh at himself”is a high crime in its self “thus leads him serious corruption ,and failure to live up to the solemn office that he holds”??Trump does not get the joke he should bow, take a knee,laugh off serious violence on many major American streets by anarchist ,he should do “the right thing” and try paying them off like all the major American corporations.He should laugh off being called a white supremacist, a rapist ,that will show he is a “nice guy”that is what we want to defend and represent America as a leader in the free world.
Eric MacDonald says
Ah, let us mislead, just as Trump continuously does.
Wellington says
Eric MacDonald: wpm did not mislead. By way of sarcasm wpm refuted you and you remain clueless and again you state a generalization, i.e., “let us mislead” without any examples. What which wpm wrote is incorrect or misleading? Try being specific for a change—if you can.
gravenimage says
Fine post, wpm.
And note that Eric MacDonald is unable to say what part of your post is misleading.
Eric MacDonald says
Most of it is misleading. His reference to defunding the police does not capture what most mean by it. If it actually meant shutting down the police, as so many like wpm suggest, it would be a disastrous idea. But generally it means stopping (i) arming police with military weaponry; (ii) reallocating some funds used to finance police forces for other professionals who do not bring a gun to every meeting (iii) increasing accountability for police forces, so that acts contrary to law are actually punished (iv) dismiss officers (a) who are racist, as many are, and (b) make sure that they cannot simply be employed by another force.
Trumps inability to laugh at himself is an illustration of his lack of humanity, as well as of his narcissism. It does lead him to serious corruption, especially in the way that he ignores the good of the American people, and turns the right of a president to pardon into a way of protecting himself. And he needs protection, as even the latest Senate report (bi-partisan by the way) that shows that Trump actually lied to Mueller, a serious offence.
As for his being a white supremacist, his repeated use of racist tropes is enough to convict him out of his own mouth. His defence of Confederate monuments and the Confederate battle flag is a case in point. The Civil War was all about slavery — which is the source of the anti-Black sentiment in the US, particularly in the South, in the Jim Crow laws, in the widespread practice of looting. All this is supported by so much that Trump has said.
Remember that Trump was impeached, without conviction, not because the terms of the articles of impeachment were not shown to be false, but because of unparalleled partisanship in the Senate.
Do you actually want me to write a book? There is a lot that I might say, but given the harangues in the response to my comment it is obvious that anything I might say here would be lost. This is the sad aspect of the failure to recognise that there is a distinction between fact and fiction. This is why I think Robert Spenser’s extreme rhetoric, not least his remarks about the disaster that is President Trump, unfortunately reduces the effect he might have on opinions regarding Islam and Muslim immigration. Not all Muslims are dangerous, but many are. Islam itself contains within it too much that is dangerous, so we need more people recognising that it is. This unfortunately won’t happen if those who warn us about Islam speak irrationally, as Spenser sometimes does, in as serious a way as his opinion about Trump is seriously irrational.
wpm says
Please write a book it would ,it would be a very funny novel I am sure lacking facts based on feeling and projection.A President who gets mad and will not laugh at a witch hunt against him for three years what a bad ,bad man.The Jim Crow laws were put into effect by the democratic party.Woodward Wilson a democratic President who showed the Birth of A nation the first film shown in the white house showing the KKK as freedom fighters for the white south.FDR (a democratic god who progressives praise today)a noted anti-Semite refused to take in Jewish refugees before or during WW2. “Remember that Trump was impeached ,without conviction”?? So he was found not Guilty because of lack of evidence?What has Bill Clinton,Obama ,Bush 1 or Bush 2 done to stop Jihad ,or spoke out against radical(normal)Islam?If Robert Spenser speaks out in favor for a sitting President he is an extremist ,and everything he says should be put into doubt because of this opinion.You can disagree with somethings he says ,but cancel everything he says because he personally likes and thinks Trump is a good president over all?
gravenimage says
Eric MacDonald wrote, re wpm’s comments:
Most of it is misleading. His reference to defunding the police does not capture what most mean by it. If it actually meant shutting down the police, as so many like wpm suggest, it would be a disastrous idea…
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wpm referred to what is going on in so many cities–rioting, looting, vandalism. In my own town of Oakland California the courthouse was set on fire and graffitied with calls to murder all judges. I actually consider this to be a bad thing. Does Eric MacDonald? Not so he says…
And while some mean some sort of reform by “defunding the police”, this is actually pretty rare–or else they would actually call it reform.
What is means is eviscerating funding of police departments. Austin, Texas, has slashed funding of the police department by a third–other cities include New York City, Los Angeles, Washington DC, San Francisco and Oakland.
Here in Oakland things were already so underfunded that the police for several years now have not sent someone out to take burglary reports–or even allow victims to come down to the station to give a report. They have to submit burglary reports on-line. Those without computers can use a public one at police stations. Anyone who is elderly or otherwise unfamiliar with computers, or who does not speak English or a commonly used second language like Spanish is simply out of luck.
How much worse are things like this apt to be now?
Neighboring Berkeley says that traffic stops will soon be conducted by unarmed social workers, as will domestic violence calls–despite these both being so dangerous. More madness.
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Trumps inability to laugh at himself is an illustration of his lack of humanity, as well as of his narcissism. It does lead him to serious corruption, especially in the way that he ignores the good of the American people, and turns the right of a president to pardon into a way of protecting himself…
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They idea that those who do not laugh at themselves have a lack of humanity is bizarre. I have a friend who has no real sense of humor at all–he often doesn’t even recognize jokes, and attempts to answer these earnestly. He is one of the most caring and charitable people I know–both to his neighbors and those he has never met. Neither is he unaware of his own shortcomings–including his own lack of sense of humor, although he has had to take this last pretty much on faith.
And has there been a link between yucking it up and protecting the American people? Not that I have seen. Lincoln was a frequent melancholic, yet to think he cared nothing for the American people would be absurd.
In fact, the only figure I can think of where this holds to some extent would be with Richard Nixon, who had no sense of humor regarding himself and was also often paranoid and vindictve.
I also think that Obama had little sense of humor regarding himself–but George Bush 43 certainly did.
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As for his being a white supremacist, his repeated use of racist tropes is enough to convict him out of his own mouth. His defence of Confederate monuments and the Confederate battle flag is a case in point. The Civil War was all about slavery — which is the source of the anti-Black sentiment in the US, particularly in the South, in the Jim Crow laws, in the widespread practice of looting. All this is supported by so much that Trump has said.
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I don’t think that objecting to vandals tearing down statuary is “white supremacist”–recall that the statues torn down included those of Cervantes and *Lincoln freeing the slaves*, a statue commissioned by free Blacks and dedicated by Fredrick Douglas.
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This is why I think Robert Spenser’s (sic) extreme rhetoric, not least his remarks about the disaster that is President Trump, unfortunately reduces the effect he might have on opinions regarding Islam and Muslim immigration.
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Even if Trump were as bad as Eric MacDonald here claims, how would that make taking a stand against the horrors of Jihad and Shari’ah any the less valid? Or is he saying that Mr. Spencer better pretend that President Trump’s acting to protect Americans from Jihad is somehow a bad thing?
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Not all Muslims are dangerous, but many are.
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Of course, Robert Spencer has never once said that every Muslim is personally dangerous. Citations, please.
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Islam itself contains within it too much that is dangerous, so we need more people recognising that it is. This unfortunately won’t happen if those who warn us about Islam speak irrationally, as Spenser (sic) sometimes does, in as serious a way as his opinion about Trump is seriously irrational.
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How is recognizing that Trump, whatever his personal shortcomings, has acted to protect Americans from Jihad “irrational”? How is Joe Biden’s pledge to import more dangerous Muslims on day one preferable?
Wellington says
Eric MacDonald: Does not “capture what most mean by it.?” Still way too vague and with plenty of silly Leftist phrases like “other professionals who do not bring a gun to every meeting.” Sorry, this won’t do. Not even close.
But you get worse: “Trump’s inability to laugh at himself is an illustration of his lack of humanity, blah, blah, blah….” This is word salad, with nothing substantive and one either knows this or should know this. You don’t.
Another example: Trump “ignores the good of the American people.” What, by reducing black unemployment to its lowest level in history? By being the only leader to take on the Chinese respecting their tariffs and manipulation of their currency? By engaging in tax cuts which have helped middle class Americans (like me)? By making NATO members such as Germany finally pay more for NATO defense? By renegotiating NAFTA which has terribly hurt many American people with the USMCA? You know, Eric, you’re full of gas and no substance.
And yet more: You accuse Trump of racism but you provide no examples unless tearing down Confederate monuments serves as such. I taught Civil War history for a third of a century, have been to over two hundred Civil War battlefields (there were over 10,000 military conflicts) and though I am exceedingly glad that the North won the Civil War, I think tearing down Confederate monuments is idiocy on steroids. Do you want all the Confederate monuments at Gettysburg and Antietam torn down but the Union monuments left in tact? Are you this stupid and ignorant?
As for the Confederate flag, it represents heritage and is the best damn flag ever made which represents the eternal rebel in so many of us (not you, however, whom I consider a wuss). Yes, it also represents racism but so does the American flag—every one of the 13 original states had slavery as legal when the first American flag was made during the Revolutionary War. What? Therefore, we should do away with the American flag as well? Do you never think in terms of nuances, past mindsets, history in general, etc.?
Respecting Trump’s impeachment, it was a rank abuse of power by the Democrats in the House. After failing on the Russian collusion hoax, including a fake dossier paid for by the Clinton campaign, the ever increasingly despotic Democrats impeached Trump over a phone call to the Ukrainian President, the transcript of which Trump released to the public. If you support this impeachment, your partisanship is so rank that you deserve no more respect than does Nancy Pelosi, who is a wretched excuse for Speaker of the House and has in full coward mode turned over the Democratic Party to extremists like Omar, Tlaib, Schiff, AOC and Nadler.
And yeah, go ahead and write a book. I dare you. You have nothing and you have revealed you have nothing many times over. You are beyond pathetic.
Daniel Triplett says
Country before party Eric
James Lincoln says
In the upcoming November election, the American public needs to put *policy* before *emotion*.
Pres. Donald Trump can be crude, rude, loud, and offensive. But *none* of that should bother anyone – if they truly care about their country.
Because…
His POLICIES, overall, have been *very* effective.
And he is been more truthful – and has delivered on more campaign promises – then any other president that I can remember.
Trump/Pence 2020 Keep America Great
Trump Administration Accomplishments:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
Eric MacDonald says
Anyone who thinks Trump has a consistent set of policies has not been paying attention.
James Lincoln says
Eric MacDonald says,
At the very least, Pres. Trump has been *more* consistent on his policies than any other president in recent memory.
Yes, political realities regarding Democrats, a hostile mainstream media, RINOs, etc., have *forced* some modifications.
And yes, I have been paying attention…
Wellington says
+1
gravenimage says
So true, James.
I do wish that Trump was even more consistent in opposing Islam–but whatever shortcomings he may have would not be improved by voting for Joe Biden, who has vowed to start importing more violent Muslims on day one.
Eric MacDonald says
‘And he is been more truthful – and has delivered on more campaign promises – then any other president that I can remember.’
You really have got to be kidding!
E T says
Well yes, Eric MAC Donald, you deleted ALL his Jihad Watch Daily, Robert Spencer has voiced his opinion, you do not agree, so you shall ban him just like all left loons.
“When I was a child, I spoke as a child ……….
Eric MacDonald says
No, I won’t. I will continue to read him. I simply no longer feel that it is helpful to go back and read old things he has written. I find many things he says to the point, but I think his assessment of Trump is simply nonsense, and cannot think that the judgement that leads to this assessment will be respected as some of his more salient criticisms of Islam should be. In other words, Spencer’s judgement about President Trump will lead to some of his more thoughtful judgements about Islam being ignored, and that is truly unfortunate.
Wellington says
Yet again you speak in generalities with NO examples. How pathetic and you put yourself out there for all to see how weakly you construct any argument. Fitting.
Eric MacDonald says
Sorry, I’m an example. I find that, when I consider some of Spenser’s judgements, I wonder whether I can trust other judgements that he makes. I don’t think I am the only one. And that makes his witness that much less effective. A pity, I think.
gravenimage says
How have other presidents–or presidential candidates–been better in opposing the encroachment of Islam? Isn’t this the salient question here?
wpm says
No President in living memory has done more to oppose Jihad here in America,or over seas as Trump.The Peace accord between UAR and Israel gets no press no praise because Trump administration created it .This country has had an appeasement policy on Jihad terror going back at least 50 years with both Republican Presidents and Democratic Presidents.WE have a choice we can vote in a man who has a corrosive loud personality with an ego that loves to be stroked ,but is willing to fight for our country,willing to put this country interest first and in his policies.He is not polished ,he is not smooth,his heart is worn on his sleeve , but he see rioting in our streets,arson of our stores anarchist are not “freedom fighter” or peaceful protestors He sees main stream Islam as a violent idolatry on the same level as Nazism .Or you can vote for Biden(a stand in with a vice President really the person who would be charge within 6 months after the election) a man who is barely alive ,who wants to go back to the old appeasement policies,from a party the democrats who refuse to knowledge that violent mobs should not hold power over law abiding people of the community both white black and brown.That Islam has a major problem ,because Jihad is a large part of the Islamic religion
gravenimage says
+1
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
There is at least one connection between Trump and Islam: the centrality of fictive reality. With the president, even when he was but a candidate, there was the imaginary crime of his treasonous conspiracy with Putin to gain access to damning secrets on the DNC server that he somehow knew were there but chose to commit treason to get instead of just hiring a hacker from the local college. Thus was hatched, for lack of eviden of a crime, a wide-ranging multi-million dollar criminal investigation in search of a crime.
With Islam it’s the fiction that doesn’t exist, which we know (or more properly put don’t know) because it’s verboten to mention and therefore does not. What’s not there is Islam’s self-proclaimed enmity to all other religions and belief systems.
So the Cancel Culture operates, ironically, both by addition and deletion.