islam doesn’t even have a Golden Rule!
Being an ex-muslim is actually a badge of honor:it is impressive to have escaped from such an intolerant cult.You had no choice in being born into it.
The koran tells muslims NOT to be friends with Jews and Christians {koran 5:51}In fact a muslim who is friends with an infidel is an infidel How ridiculous is that?
I guess sad allah would be against muslims having infidel pen-pals.
No Art,no Music,no Musical instruments,no literature:but these are normal pursuits.
The appaling behavior of those islamic clowns muhammed hijab and ali dawah,the beavis and butthead of islam, in their disgraceful abuse of ex-muslim{‘murtads’}is a sure sign of how weak and insecure islam is.
What sort of religion is so insecure it has a DEATH PENALTY if you want to leave it?
What is wrong with anybody{ from any religion} wanting to be an ‘apostate,?
Nothing.
Why should anyone care if somebody wants to leave a religion?
In islam they KILL people who want to leave:no other world religion does that.
m.hijab strutting around like a peacock,preening his beard,flexing his muscles calling everybody a weakling{or ‘boy’..who even talks like that in the 21st century?} and his vicious pet poodle ali ‘wanna share in the reward’ dawah publicly threatening to kill ‘apostates’:they appear intent on bringing their islam into disgrace by their actions.
And islamic ‘scholars’ have been lying to muslims..for centuries!
You cannot hide the Truth:thanks to the internet…
gravenimagesays
+1
mortimersays
Islamic leaders have known for centuries that the Koran has not been perfectly preserved, but they have simply lied to their followers about it.
The mullahs are not convinced about many of Islam’s teachings, but they need a job and do not wish to retrain.
They are champs at deception.
tim gallaghersays
I love hearing about Muslims packing up and leaving that vile ideology, Islam. It would great to see the loathsome, barbaric cult collapse. It should have disappeared from the human race ages ago. Over a billion Muslims though. There is still so far to go to rid the human race of this totally inhumane poison, Islam. It gives some hope though to hear about Muslims exiting the barbaric throwback of an ideology. Islam’s aim is to drag the whole human race back to living in the disgusting way that 7th century people in Arabia lived. It is such a primitive throwback.
Peter Buckleysays
“Over a billion Muslims though.”
Most of these “,muslims” either know very little about their religion, or don’t practice it. In the video, I uploaded, one of the ex-muslims correctly points out, there are many secularists, humanists, even secret Christians, who are forced to continue to identify as “muslims” simply because of the dangers of NOT doing so. Now use your imagination. Once it becomes “safe” to say you have left the faith,(and it is becoming safer by the day) imagine how that number will reduce. Also, this is just the first generation of apostates, who will be bringing their children up as non-muslims. Do you see how the scales are about to swing now with the advent of the Internet?
By talking about “a billion muslims”, you are ironically maintaining the kind of myth which has kept Islam afloat for 1400 years:
tim gallaghersays
Thanks for the comment, Peter. I certainly hope you are right in your optimism about how islam might collapse fairly rapidly. That would be a wonderful thing and would make the world a far more peaceful and civilised place. I’m sure that you are right in saying that many Muslims would naturally be afraid to disclose that they have left islam behind. How disgusting Islam is in so many different ways, but one of them is this disgraceful death sentence apostates can face for leaving the barbaric ideology behind.
Demscisays
Great video and great perspective. As leaving Islam seems a negative action, indicating a person is leaving, losing, abandoning, “betraying” something.
I always try to fathom “what is better than Islam”. Or if there is freedom FROM Islam, what is it that persons are FREE to do, experience, participate in? Seeking not only To Walk Away, but also Walk To.
When some kind of new ideologies or mindsets (preferably in a wide variety, but with great enthousiasm) replaces Islam adherents to them then can retaliate to Muslims calling others infidels, un-believers, apostates, traitors, misguided, nihilists etc.
In favor of the new found ideology, philosophical ideas all these epithets can then be hurled back to Muslims, because their position towards the new “religion” is what the position of unbeliever etc is to Islam.
I think a big part of it can be Democracy and Science and perhaps philosophy, with the Golden Rule idea in it. I think there are both for persons as for societies much better alternatives to Islam.
In the department of history there are narratives now that, can we say, surpass Islams narrative, by far in truth seeking, understanding history. Islam being not much more credible than “Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings” would be if touted as being the truth.
Demscisays
Addendum: Although I am an atheist, I do consider exchanging Islam for Chrisianity, or for that matter, Hinduism, Buddhism and I suppose other peaceful religions also a good replacement.
Demscisays
Consider the immigration situation in the Western Democratic countries. They have a big “pull factor” when many Islamic countries have this large “Push” factor. With war and societal failure and even droughts in play.
And, Although not in great masses, also Westerners do Sometimes convert to Islam. Obviously anti-Islamists prefer ex-Muslims of color over white converts to Islam.
People are not racists when they fear that Western Democratic countries or cities become Muslim majority countries and cities. For ex-Muslims it is even of vital importance to try prevent this. As it should be for LGBT-people and others by the way.
Ever since 9/11 I and many for this reason primarily have been against excess immigration. And yes, for discrimination against Muslim immigration.
But to stop this has been shown well nigh impossible. Also there are many Muslims who “import” marriage partners and relatives in their new countries with the help of laws and treaties.
But, it is NOT the genetic make up which determines an anti-immigration stance, for me and many others. I dare say that the mix up of all sorts of races is beneficial, not detrimental. The variety in humans to observe is a pleasure, not an abhorrent phenomenom.
So …….. what we “Democratic, modern” Westerners perhaps now should want is to get Muslims out of Islam and into some other predominant religion, ideology, mindset, in harmony with ours. Or more in harmony, which is easy. (But preferably NOT leftist, communists, haha).
Rajasays
Islam was never strong. False religions always tend to portray their religion as being very strong. Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism etc claimed to be revolutionary but ended up slaughtering millions. Islam is no new player in genocide. If we can get rid of oil money, the terror funding can be reduced to a great extend and scourge of Islam can also be contained. The likes of Zakir Naiks must be confronted if Islam is to be exterminated.
Thanks for the vid.
Brian Hoffsays
Islam is growing hateful remarks from racistu Islamoprobic count for nothing . our illegall elect current president put the life of than legally member of Congress in danger of being murdered by than far rightwing nutjob. That woman was the first muslim blackwoman elect to the house. You most likely support just action legally.
gravenimagesays
How is pointing out how violent Islam is “racistu”? Islam is not a race–it is a vicious ideology.
And is “Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–saying that no one is allowed to criticize Muslims, because this is–somehow–“murdered by than far rigthwing nutjob”? What he actually means is that no Infidel is allowed to say anything critical about any Muslim.
Note that he has never had any problem with is own coreligionists actually calling for the murder of those like Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. But then, why would he?
James Lincolnsays
Brian Hoff,
The indecipherable gibberish that you have just posted suggests that you are possibly schizophrenic.
See a good non-muslim psychiatrist – today.
She’ll likely recommend 50 mg of Thorazine – stat – for starters.
mortimersays
Agree with JL. BH will not be considered ill by a Muslim … so many who follow Islam have a very slim connection to reality.
FYIsays
We have tried to be charitable to mr hoff{really ‘the defender of islam’}but his gibberish appears to be best defined as Word Salad.
What the hell is a ‘racistu islamoprobic’?
As for ‘islam growing hateful remarks’: yes indeed,islam never stops increasing its hateful remarks towards others,especially the ‘murtadeen’,the “Apostates”
islam never stops ‘growing hateful remarks’ to us infidels.
{allah himself,in his holey koran ,makes a statement that resembles a cryptic crossword clue and NOBODY has any idea what allah is on about.
NOBODY knows.
“Above it are nineteen”
koran 74:30
Nineteen WHAT,allah?What is ‘it’ and what are the nineteen above it?
Nobody knows.
Imagine if you read a novel and you came to the last line:
“So I opened the box the postman gave me and there, to my Joy, were nineteen..”
Ninteen what?Cookies,candy bars…?Could you,dear author, at least give us a clue as to what they might be?}
Mateensays
I have a theory that Brian Hoff may really be Allah. According to Islam, Allah is the author of the Qur’an, and any fair analysis of the Qur’an shows it is full of incomplete sentences, misspellings, ignorance of syntax and grammar. Early Arabic scholar Gerd Puin has asserted that on average one out of every five sentences in the Qur’an is incomprehensible.
This paragraph from Brian Hoff bears such close relationship to the writing style of the Qur’an that I suspect Allah has taken a pseudonym among us and is trying to pawn off more of his gibberish in our midst.
Dadly, since Allah’s native tongue is Arabic and he is not very adept at learning other languages, we are not going to have an easy time understanding his broken English, as Brian Hoff’s paragraph demonstrates so clearly.
gravenimagesays
🙂
gravenimagesays
Video: Robert Spencer and David Wood on Islamic apologists’ destruction of Islam
………………..
Always great to see these two together!
Prince Eugenesays
Hijab and his Dawah team are proselytizing the ‘unsanitized for the West’ version of Islam. D’Wood eventually gets around to exposing ALL of Islam’s sex slave-ownin’ wife-beatin’ Allahu Akbar-shoutin’ apostate-killin’ blood-spattered goriness. Wood chewed up and spat out the Fatiha, that slanderous prayer repeated daily by observant Muslims. “Keep us on the right path… Not of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down (Jews), nor of those who go astray (Christians).”
Did you see the Qur’anic spit take! It was awesome! Thank you Dr. Wood.
Lying in islam :
Qur’an (16:106) – Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie. (When we contradict the Islamic two faces ) The Muslims, front of us, agree with us, but behind our back they disapprove and ridicule us
Asma bint Yazid narrated that the Messenger of Allah said: “it is not lawful to lie except in three cases: Something the man tells his wife to please her, to lie during war, and to lie in order to bring peace between the people.” ►https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/27/45
they (mohammedens) allowed to lie to unbelievers, but they’re even allowed to lie to each other
Narrated by Um Kulthum bint Uqba
That she heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar.”
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 49, Number 857
There are SIX DIFFERENT WAYS of deception that are permissible in Islam: 1) taqiyya )تقیه, 2) kitman, 3) tawriya, 4) taysir, 5) darura, 6) muruna
Taqiyya(Shia) , permissible lies, deceit 1) meaning, 2) method and 3) motives of Islamic jihad ( to hide such deeds) for the purposes of spreading Islam.. or Muda’rat (Sunni): tactical deceit
Tawriya , deceit by deliberate ambiguity .appearing to agree but muslims are in their minds on another subject, inshallah.
Kitman deceit by omission lying, by quoting peaceful verses, though they know they are abrogated by commands of violence verses. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 this verse 5.32 is a command on the *Jews*, not on muslims. (the sentiment of 5:32 is, in fact, plagiarised from the Torah (that if anyone kills “it shall be as if he had killed all mankind”) while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse5:33 (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of “corruption” and “mischief.”
Darura: deceit through necessity (to engage in something “Haram” or forbidden such as drinking alcohol to exploit non-Muslims).
Taysir: deceit through facilitation (not observing all the tenets of Sharia by ‘making things easier’).
Muruna: ‘flexibility’ or temporary suspension of Sharia to make Muslim migrants appear ‘moderate’ and blend in until Muslims are numerically strong enough to enforce Sharia.
by appearing contrary, like drinking, to hide a muslims real intentions.
plus other variations that are adapted for Mohammad’s purpose.
Tu quoque You or they, did it too.
Squirrels , introduce a new topic
islamic mirrorsays
Islamic allah forgets like mohd so quran,allah and mohd not trustworthy
Please check.
Allah appears moses, two verses with same message but different words. Allah forgets, he sent the same message with different word/s previously. Clearly two authors and quran is man made
Muslims claim the Qur’an is perfect. If it isn’t, then it’s not from god Lah. Muslims! Lah is not the God of the Universe!
If it the truth should not be said in public according to Yasir Qadhi. Look at its teaching: Polygamy, misogyny, child marriage, authorization for mass murder
Fred Middletonsays
You’re right, too many Christians have this view that you must go through life never offending anyone. Well, try looking at Matthew 3:7; 12:34; 23:33. Also, of course, Matthew 10:34, it is not possible to witness Christ without creating dissension. Prophets are often entrusted with upsetting messages, rarely with hearts and flowers statements. The Apostles also could also dish it out (Phil 3:19 is only one example. Would one refrain from criticising Hitler on the basis it might upset nice Germans?
As for eating the koran, I remember seeing a documentary film about Morocco in which a ‘physician’ called to a sick woman, wrote a verse on the inside of a copper dish, mixed it with water and had her drink it. She was thereby consuming the holy words.
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Peter Buckley says
Islam is collapsing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTECBfbUGMI
FYI says
Kudos to anybody who leaves islam.
islam doesn’t even have a Golden Rule!
Being an ex-muslim is actually a badge of honor:it is impressive to have escaped from such an intolerant cult.You had no choice in being born into it.
The koran tells muslims NOT to be friends with Jews and Christians {koran 5:51}In fact a muslim who is friends with an infidel is an infidel How ridiculous is that?
I guess sad allah would be against muslims having infidel pen-pals.
No Art,no Music,no Musical instruments,no literature:but these are normal pursuits.
The appaling behavior of those islamic clowns muhammed hijab and ali dawah,the beavis and butthead of islam, in their disgraceful abuse of ex-muslim{‘murtads’}is a sure sign of how weak and insecure islam is.
What sort of religion is so insecure it has a DEATH PENALTY if you want to leave it?
What is wrong with anybody{ from any religion} wanting to be an ‘apostate,?
Nothing.
Why should anyone care if somebody wants to leave a religion?
In islam they KILL people who want to leave:no other world religion does that.
m.hijab strutting around like a peacock,preening his beard,flexing his muscles calling everybody a weakling{or ‘boy’..who even talks like that in the 21st century?} and his vicious pet poodle ali ‘wanna share in the reward’ dawah publicly threatening to kill ‘apostates’:they appear intent on bringing their islam into disgrace by their actions.
And islamic ‘scholars’ have been lying to muslims..for centuries!
You cannot hide the Truth:thanks to the internet…
gravenimage says
+1
mortimer says
Islamic leaders have known for centuries that the Koran has not been perfectly preserved, but they have simply lied to their followers about it.
The mullahs are not convinced about many of Islam’s teachings, but they need a job and do not wish to retrain.
They are champs at deception.
tim gallagher says
I love hearing about Muslims packing up and leaving that vile ideology, Islam. It would great to see the loathsome, barbaric cult collapse. It should have disappeared from the human race ages ago. Over a billion Muslims though. There is still so far to go to rid the human race of this totally inhumane poison, Islam. It gives some hope though to hear about Muslims exiting the barbaric throwback of an ideology. Islam’s aim is to drag the whole human race back to living in the disgusting way that 7th century people in Arabia lived. It is such a primitive throwback.
Peter Buckley says
“Over a billion Muslims though.”
Most of these “,muslims” either know very little about their religion, or don’t practice it. In the video, I uploaded, one of the ex-muslims correctly points out, there are many secularists, humanists, even secret Christians, who are forced to continue to identify as “muslims” simply because of the dangers of NOT doing so. Now use your imagination. Once it becomes “safe” to say you have left the faith,(and it is becoming safer by the day) imagine how that number will reduce. Also, this is just the first generation of apostates, who will be bringing their children up as non-muslims. Do you see how the scales are about to swing now with the advent of the Internet?
By talking about “a billion muslims”, you are ironically maintaining the kind of myth which has kept Islam afloat for 1400 years:
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the comment, Peter. I certainly hope you are right in your optimism about how islam might collapse fairly rapidly. That would be a wonderful thing and would make the world a far more peaceful and civilised place. I’m sure that you are right in saying that many Muslims would naturally be afraid to disclose that they have left islam behind. How disgusting Islam is in so many different ways, but one of them is this disgraceful death sentence apostates can face for leaving the barbaric ideology behind.
Demsci says
Great video and great perspective. As leaving Islam seems a negative action, indicating a person is leaving, losing, abandoning, “betraying” something.
I always try to fathom “what is better than Islam”. Or if there is freedom FROM Islam, what is it that persons are FREE to do, experience, participate in? Seeking not only To Walk Away, but also Walk To.
When some kind of new ideologies or mindsets (preferably in a wide variety, but with great enthousiasm) replaces Islam adherents to them then can retaliate to Muslims calling others infidels, un-believers, apostates, traitors, misguided, nihilists etc.
In favor of the new found ideology, philosophical ideas all these epithets can then be hurled back to Muslims, because their position towards the new “religion” is what the position of unbeliever etc is to Islam.
I think a big part of it can be Democracy and Science and perhaps philosophy, with the Golden Rule idea in it. I think there are both for persons as for societies much better alternatives to Islam.
In the department of history there are narratives now that, can we say, surpass Islams narrative, by far in truth seeking, understanding history. Islam being not much more credible than “Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings” would be if touted as being the truth.
Demsci says
Addendum: Although I am an atheist, I do consider exchanging Islam for Chrisianity, or for that matter, Hinduism, Buddhism and I suppose other peaceful religions also a good replacement.
Demsci says
Consider the immigration situation in the Western Democratic countries. They have a big “pull factor” when many Islamic countries have this large “Push” factor. With war and societal failure and even droughts in play.
And, Although not in great masses, also Westerners do Sometimes convert to Islam. Obviously anti-Islamists prefer ex-Muslims of color over white converts to Islam.
People are not racists when they fear that Western Democratic countries or cities become Muslim majority countries and cities. For ex-Muslims it is even of vital importance to try prevent this. As it should be for LGBT-people and others by the way.
Ever since 9/11 I and many for this reason primarily have been against excess immigration. And yes, for discrimination against Muslim immigration.
But to stop this has been shown well nigh impossible. Also there are many Muslims who “import” marriage partners and relatives in their new countries with the help of laws and treaties.
But, it is NOT the genetic make up which determines an anti-immigration stance, for me and many others. I dare say that the mix up of all sorts of races is beneficial, not detrimental. The variety in humans to observe is a pleasure, not an abhorrent phenomenom.
So …….. what we “Democratic, modern” Westerners perhaps now should want is to get Muslims out of Islam and into some other predominant religion, ideology, mindset, in harmony with ours. Or more in harmony, which is easy. (But preferably NOT leftist, communists, haha).
Raja says
Islam was never strong. False religions always tend to portray their religion as being very strong. Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism etc claimed to be revolutionary but ended up slaughtering millions. Islam is no new player in genocide. If we can get rid of oil money, the terror funding can be reduced to a great extend and scourge of Islam can also be contained. The likes of Zakir Naiks must be confronted if Islam is to be exterminated.
Thanks for the vid.
Brian Hoff says
Islam is growing hateful remarks from racistu Islamoprobic count for nothing . our illegall elect current president put the life of than legally member of Congress in danger of being murdered by than far rightwing nutjob. That woman was the first muslim blackwoman elect to the house. You most likely support just action legally.
gravenimage says
How is pointing out how violent Islam is “racistu”? Islam is not a race–it is a vicious ideology.
And is “Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–saying that no one is allowed to criticize Muslims, because this is–somehow–“murdered by than far rigthwing nutjob”? What he actually means is that no Infidel is allowed to say anything critical about any Muslim.
Note that he has never had any problem with is own coreligionists actually calling for the murder of those like Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. But then, why would he?
James Lincoln says
Brian Hoff,
The indecipherable gibberish that you have just posted suggests that you are possibly schizophrenic.
See a good non-muslim psychiatrist – today.
She’ll likely recommend 50 mg of Thorazine – stat – for starters.
mortimer says
Agree with JL. BH will not be considered ill by a Muslim … so many who follow Islam have a very slim connection to reality.
FYI says
We have tried to be charitable to mr hoff{really ‘the defender of islam’}but his gibberish appears to be best defined as Word Salad.
What the hell is a ‘racistu islamoprobic’?
As for ‘islam growing hateful remarks’: yes indeed,islam never stops increasing its hateful remarks towards others,especially the ‘murtadeen’,the “Apostates”
islam never stops ‘growing hateful remarks’ to us infidels.
{allah himself,in his holey koran ,makes a statement that resembles a cryptic crossword clue and NOBODY has any idea what allah is on about.
NOBODY knows.
“Above it are nineteen”
koran 74:30
Nineteen WHAT,allah?What is ‘it’ and what are the nineteen above it?
Nobody knows.
Imagine if you read a novel and you came to the last line:
“So I opened the box the postman gave me and there, to my Joy, were nineteen..”
Ninteen what?Cookies,candy bars…?Could you,dear author, at least give us a clue as to what they might be?}
Mateen says
I have a theory that Brian Hoff may really be Allah. According to Islam, Allah is the author of the Qur’an, and any fair analysis of the Qur’an shows it is full of incomplete sentences, misspellings, ignorance of syntax and grammar. Early Arabic scholar Gerd Puin has asserted that on average one out of every five sentences in the Qur’an is incomprehensible.
This paragraph from Brian Hoff bears such close relationship to the writing style of the Qur’an that I suspect Allah has taken a pseudonym among us and is trying to pawn off more of his gibberish in our midst.
Dadly, since Allah’s native tongue is Arabic and he is not very adept at learning other languages, we are not going to have an easy time understanding his broken English, as Brian Hoff’s paragraph demonstrates so clearly.
gravenimage says
🙂
gravenimage says
Video: Robert Spencer and David Wood on Islamic apologists’ destruction of Islam
………………..
Always great to see these two together!
Prince Eugene says
Hijab and his Dawah team are proselytizing the ‘unsanitized for the West’ version of Islam. D’Wood eventually gets around to exposing ALL of Islam’s sex slave-ownin’ wife-beatin’ Allahu Akbar-shoutin’ apostate-killin’ blood-spattered goriness. Wood chewed up and spat out the Fatiha, that slanderous prayer repeated daily by observant Muslims. “Keep us on the right path… Not of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down (Jews), nor of those who go astray (Christians).”
Did you see the Qur’anic spit take! It was awesome! Thank you Dr. Wood.
Relic says
“former Navy Seal who shot bin Laden refuses to wear a mask – Delta may refuse to ever let him fly again.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YQoK7Ff334
islamic mirror says
Lying in islam :
Qur’an (16:106) – Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie. (When we contradict the Islamic two faces ) The Muslims, front of us, agree with us, but behind our back they disapprove and ridicule us
Asma bint Yazid narrated that the Messenger of Allah said: “it is not lawful to lie except in three cases: Something the man tells his wife to please her, to lie during war, and to lie in order to bring peace between the people.” ►https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/27/45
they (mohammedens) allowed to lie to unbelievers, but they’re even allowed to lie to each other
Narrated by Um Kulthum bint Uqba
That she heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar.”
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 49, Number 857
There are SIX DIFFERENT WAYS of deception that are permissible in Islam: 1) taqiyya )تقیه, 2) kitman, 3) tawriya, 4) taysir, 5) darura, 6) muruna
Taqiyya(Shia) , permissible lies, deceit 1) meaning, 2) method and 3) motives of Islamic jihad ( to hide such deeds) for the purposes of spreading Islam.. or Muda’rat (Sunni): tactical deceit
Tawriya , deceit by deliberate ambiguity .appearing to agree but muslims are in their minds on another subject, inshallah.
Kitman deceit by omission lying, by quoting peaceful verses, though they know they are abrogated by commands of violence verses. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 this verse 5.32 is a command on the *Jews*, not on muslims. (the sentiment of 5:32 is, in fact, plagiarised from the Torah (that if anyone kills “it shall be as if he had killed all mankind”) while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse5:33 (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of “corruption” and “mischief.”
Darura: deceit through necessity (to engage in something “Haram” or forbidden such as drinking alcohol to exploit non-Muslims).
Taysir: deceit through facilitation (not observing all the tenets of Sharia by ‘making things easier’).
Muruna: ‘flexibility’ or temporary suspension of Sharia to make Muslim migrants appear ‘moderate’ and blend in until Muslims are numerically strong enough to enforce Sharia.
by appearing contrary, like drinking, to hide a muslims real intentions.
plus other variations that are adapted for Mohammad’s purpose.
Tu quoque You or they, did it too.
Squirrels , introduce a new topic
islamic mirror says
Islamic allah forgets like mohd so quran,allah and mohd not trustworthy
Please check.
Allah appears moses, two verses with same message but different words. Allah forgets, he sent the same message with different word/s previously. Clearly two authors and quran is man made
Muslims claim the Qur’an is perfect. If it isn’t, then it’s not from god Lah. Muslims! Lah is not the God of the Universe!
If it the truth should not be said in public according to Yasir Qadhi. Look at its teaching: Polygamy, misogyny, child marriage, authorization for mass murder
Fred Middleton says
You’re right, too many Christians have this view that you must go through life never offending anyone. Well, try looking at Matthew 3:7; 12:34; 23:33. Also, of course, Matthew 10:34, it is not possible to witness Christ without creating dissension. Prophets are often entrusted with upsetting messages, rarely with hearts and flowers statements. The Apostles also could also dish it out (Phil 3:19 is only one example. Would one refrain from criticising Hitler on the basis it might upset nice Germans?
As for eating the koran, I remember seeing a documentary film about Morocco in which a ‘physician’ called to a sick woman, wrote a verse on the inside of a copper dish, mixed it with water and had her drink it. She was thereby consuming the holy words.