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Afghanistan talks: Taliban demand ‘Islamic system,’ existing government insists political system is ‘fully Islamic’

Sep 22, 2020 12:00 pm By Robert Spencer 11 Comments

In Afghanistan, it was the “Islamic system,” i.e., Sharia principles, that led the Taliban to join forces with al-Qaeda to wage jihad against the U.S. government, culminating in the 9/11 jihad attacks. Now all these years later, the two sides in the ongoing “peace negotiations” are arguing over which will implement Sharia most faithfully. The failure to understand Sharia or its influence in Afghanistan and elsewhere has hamstrung our response to 9/11 from the beginning, and led to the appalling boondoggle of our involvement in Afghanistan. We should get the troops out now and focus on preventing jihadis in Afghanistan from waging jihad outside the country. That’s all.

“Taliban Want ‘Islamic System’ of Government as Focal Point of Afghan Talks,” by Ayaz Gul, VOA News, September 19, 2020 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

ISLAMABAD – Delegates of Afghanistan’s government and the Taliban continue finalizing “rules of negotiations” for a power-sharing deal a week after the two foes launched their historic U.S.-brokered direct peace dialogue.

Meanwhile, battlefield hostilities between Afghan forces and Taliban insurgents continued to inflict heavy casualties on both sides and deepen a mutual trust deficit at the negotiating table….

The insurgents have rejected calls for a cease-fire until they negotiate a broader political deal over the future of Afghanistan in the dialogue being hosted by Qatar….

In a weekly commentary published Saturday, the Taliban insisted they have, from the outset, called for the establishment of an “Islamic system” of governance in Afghanistan to be a “focal point of discussions.”

The radical group asserted it “believes” the Islamic system could only bring peace and solve problems facing Afghanistan, including corruption and other crimes.

The Taliban denounce the existing Afghan ruling system as illegal and a product of what they call America’s occupation of the country.

The Afghan government vehemently defends the political system as “fully Islamic” and has vowed not to compromise on it in the discussions with the insurgent interlocutors….

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  1. Check Burry says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 12:07 pm

    The killing will restart shortly, after talks Blow up, rather than the usual Talks break down.

    Reply
    • Peter Carroll says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 6:29 pm

      The killing never stopped. Over the past 14 days, 98 Afghani’s have been killed, including women and children and 330 injured, in Taliban attacks. Source: The Religion of Peace, website.

      I agree to a certain extent with those who adopt a, “just leave them alone to kill each other” strategy, but my heart goes out to the women and children, particularly young girls, who will suffer terribly, again, under Taliban rule.

      Reply
  2. Walter sieruk says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    Of course the Taliban demand and Islamic system be instated in negotiations concerning a “power -sharing deal.” Those those “talks” the Taliban doe sand will continue to refuse bring up Sharia law ideology in any Islamic system of government in Afghanistan will be the implementation of the brutal, cruel and oppressive misogamy Islam.

    For in Afghanistan, with Islam, women will never have equal rights with men.

    It will only become worse for women after the Taliban regains in power in that country.

    For example, on the morning of April 17, 2019 on FOX NEWS television the subject was covered about the idea of having “peace talks “with the Taliban. Viewing the history of the Taliban when they were in power in Afghanistan and the brutal ruthless misogyny they had engaged in was both vicious and malicious to the extreme.

    Therefore the question, naturally, was brought up, now that peace talks” might soon begin, the Taliban was asked if they return to power in Afghanistan “ would they respect female rights ?”

    To that question the Taliban replied “that when back in power they would respect.

    Women‘s rights but only to the limits of the cultural of will they permit those rights of women.”

    The point is that the “cultural of Afghanistan” is really the religion of Afghanistan, which is Islam.

    Therefore the reality is that female rights, for both girls and woman, will not exist in a future Taliban controlled Islamic state of Afghanistan . For Islam is a religion of harsh and malice- filled misogyny.

    As explained in the book, by Brigitte Gabriel, of the title THEY MUST BE STOPPED. Her book informs the readers on page 172. “Woman in Islam are considered unclean, deemed inferior even to dirt.”

    Reply
  3. Walter Sieruk says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    This message is so important that it’s worth an reiteration of. The message is that in any “peace” agreement with Taliban is a “Deal with devil “ in other words a “fools deal.” The very idea of having actual, real, genuine productive “peace talks” with those brutal ,cruel misogynistic Taliban characters is an absurd and fool idea of folly.

    One thing is for sure, even if even attempting to engage on “peace talks” with Taliban it would be best not to be naïve about them and take at face value anything that they might say or promise. To just “give trust away” to those Islamic characters who compose the Taliban would be foolishness and folly. For when trying to have genuine negotiations with the them ,it need to be kept in mind that there is an Islamic doctrine called TAQIYYA This is the Muslim dogma the lying and deception are good things to do, if and as long as the lies and deceit are done for the advancement of Islam.

    For the deceptive and disingenuous Taliban have proven many times over, by their own actions, that they are a ruthless, brutal vicious gang of thugs with no honor. So in any kind of “dialogue” the Taliban will most likely speak the truth only when it happened to suite them. The rest of the time they will be speaking half-truths and also be outright lying.

    Likewise, the Taliban will keep their word in anything that they may happen to promise only and long as in fits into their agenda and no longer. So before engaging of the foolishness of attempting to have genuine “talks for a peace alliance” with Taliban, the officials of the current government would do well to heed the wisdom of Sun Tzu found in THE ART OF WAR. For it instructs “We cannot enter into an alliance neighboring’s princes, until we are acquainted with their designs.” To put this in a more updated and current way, it may be said that “We cannot enter into a peace alliance with the Taliban until we know the actual intentions and real schemes.”

    Furthermore, if attempting to engage in “peace talks” with Taliban it would be very naïve to take at face value anything that the Taliban might promise. For example, the Taliban might say that they will respect the rights of women and girls, for they ,many times, employ the Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya In those so called “negotiations” with officials of the West .Taaqyia ids the Islamic teaching that lying and deceit

    So it may be nothing but foolishness and folly to even try to have worthwhile constructive peace discussions with lying brutal cruel men who make up the Taliban . For having a genuine practical peace compromise with Taliban might be impossible

    As the former US President, Franklin D. Roosevelt, had well-spoken when he said “There has never been – there never can be – successful compromise between good and evil.”

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    • gravenimage says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 8:28 pm

      Great quote from Roosevelt.

      Reply
  4. gravenimage says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 8:28 pm

    Afghanistan talks: Taliban demand ‘Islamic system,’ existing government insists political system is ‘fully Islamic’
    ……………….

    Note that no one– not even the existing government–questions the need to impose brutal Islamic law. The only question is if the current imposition of savagery–which has stoning on the books but has not yet carried out a sentence–is barbaric *enough*.

    *This* is what we have wasted nineteen years of blood and treasure for.

    Reply
    • James Lincoln says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 9:21 pm

      gravenimage says,

      “*This* is what we have wasted nineteen years of blood and treasure for.”

      Yes, that about sums it up – tragic beyond tragic.

      If Pres. Trump had been president during 9/11, likely a far different approach…

      Reply
      • gravenimage says

        Sep 23, 2020 at 11:11 pm

        +1

        Reply
  5. Giacomo Latta says

    Sep 23, 2020 at 9:15 am

    “peace negotiations”
    ”Taliban demand Islamic system.”
    End of negotiations.

    Reply
  6. mortimer says

    Sep 23, 2020 at 10:46 am

    The Taliban have repeated their demands again: ALL OR NOTHING.

    Reply
  7. OLD GUY says

    Sep 23, 2020 at 11:04 am

    Whats wrong with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda fighting amongst them selves? Better they kill each others population than ours. These hate mongers will never come to peace because it is their religion that tells them they must kill non believers.

    Reply

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