Charlie Hebdo, yet again, is heroically standing up for free speech. The French satirical weekly’s cartoonists – surely among the bravest people in the world – have chosen to reprint the cartoons of Muhammad that led to the murder of ten of their predecessors on January 7, 2015, by the Muslim Kouachi brothers, petty criminals and drug traffickers who, possibly to make amends, became fanatical in their faith. The story of the reprinted cartoons, and the reaction in Pakistan, is here.
Tens of thousands of people protested across Pakistan on Sept. 3 against French magazine Charlie Hebdo’s reprinting of cartoons mocking the Prophet Mohammad, chanting “Death to France” and calling for boycotts of French products.
Listen to their cries. They shout, these frenzied mobs of maddened Muslims, not just “shut down Charlie Hebdo,” but “death.” Not “death” only to the magazine, or to the cartoonists, but “death to France.” The entire country of France must be punished, put to death. And if you can’t reach France, any French people who happen to be visiting Pakistan might just do. One more reason for Infidels not to visit Pakistan.
“Decapitation is the punishment of blasphemers,” read one of the placards carried by protesters.
The cartoons sending up the Prophet Mohammad triggered outrage and unrest among Muslims around the world in 2005 when they were first published by the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten.
Earlier this week, Charlie Hebdo – a satirical weekly – revived the cartoons to mark the start of the trial of suspected accomplices in an Islamist militant attack on its Paris office in January 2015.
The Islamist gunmen who stormed into Charlie Hebdo, killing 12 people [10 of them cartoonists], sought to avenge the Prophet Mohammad, a French court heard on September 2, on the first day of the trial. Publication of the cartoons was cited as the reason for the attack.
Friday’s protests were organized by the hardline Islamist Tehreek-e-Laibak Pakistan (TLP) party with rallies held in Karachi, the country’s largest city, as well as in Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Lahore and Dera Ismail Khan.
Protesters paralyzed traffic in Karachi, Pakistan’s financial and business capital.
“It (re-printing of cartoons) amounts to big terrorism; they repeat such acts of blasphemy against Prophet Mohammad every few years. It should be stopped,” said Razi Hussani, TLP district leader in Karachi.
Mere printing of this cartoon Is held to be “big terrorism,” though it causes no physical harm to anyone, and no mental anguish if you simply avoid looking at it. No one is forcing anyone in Pakistan, or anywhere, for that matter, to buy, read, or look at that magazine. Very likely among the tens of thousands of rioting Pakistanis only a handful have actually seen a copy of the reprinted cartoon. But the Pakistanis are not mollified. They can go searching for that cartoon on the Internet. Or they can just imagine what it looks like. This self-inflicted and entirely avoidable emotional anguish, we are expected to believe, makes this cartoon “big terrorism” for Muslims, presumably equivalent to the Twin Towers being brought down in New York, the vehicular homicides in Nice and Barcelona, the dismembering of Drummer Lee Rigby on a London street.
“Similar rallies held in Pakistan in 2015 turned violent, with scores injured as police clashed with protesters trying to make their way to the French consulate in Karachi.
“Pakistan’s government also condemned the reprinting of the cartoons. Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said the South Asian country believed in freedom of expression but such liberty does not mean a license to offend religious sentiment.
The government condemned not the violent rioters screaming “Death to France,” but rather, the reprinting of the cartoons. Shah Mehmood Qureshi insists he believes in freedom of expression, except when he doesn’t, and he doesn’t whenever the religious sentiments of Muslims are offended. And they are offended so very greatly, and so very often. Somewhere in the world, there is always a Muslim mob rioting over a perceived offense to Muslim sensibilities: Charlie Hebdo, Jyllans-Posten, Salman Rushdie have all caused riots in Muslim lands worldwide. The mere “rumor” that a Christian man had said “something blasphemous” – no one knew what it was, but that hardly mattered – started riots in Bichi, a city in northern Nigeria. In 2019, a Muslim student in Pakistan accused his Hindu headteacher of making blasphemous remarks about Muhammad. Hearing about this, a large Muslim mob then attacked and destroyed a Hindu temple, Hindu-owned shops, and the school owned by the headteacher, all because that student wanted to get back at his teacher, possibly for nothing more than a bad grade.
Many Christians have been jailed, and some killed by mobs, in Pakistan, on the flimsiest of charges of “blasphemy.” Most recently, there was the case of Asia Bibi, a Pakistani Christian who was given a death sentence for “blaspheming.” Her accusers were Muslim women with whom she picked berries. They asked her to fetch water for them; Asia Bibi took a sip from the jug. They were incensed because she dared to drink water out of a communal cup, that Christian lips should not have touched, and they decided to claim she had insulted Muhammad. Five days after her supposed “blasphemy,” the police barged into her family’s hovel, and dragged her off. She was tried, convicted, and spent nine years in solitary confinement on death row. Her sentence was finally overturned by the Supreme Court, but she remained in jail for her own safety while Muslim mobs in Pakistan called for her execution. Main roads were blocked, cars and buses were set alight, toll booths ransacked, and police officers attacked. Particularly in the eastern province of Punjab, many offices, businesses, and even schools were forced to close as commuting became impossible. All of this mayhem was created to force the government to carry out Bibi’s original death sentence. It didn’t work.
Eventually she was spirited out of the country to Canada. But she and her family will forever live with the fear that someday some Muslim fanatic will recognize her, and decide to carry out that death sentence.
There have been many Asia Bibis – not released, but executed for “blasphemy” — in the last 1,400 years of Islam.
Charlie Hebdo has long tested the limits of what society will accept in the name of free speech.
What Charlie Hebdo has actually done is test the limits of what Muslims will accept in the name of free speech. The answer is clear: when it comes to claims of blasphemy against Muhammad, they will accept nothing.
“We will never lie down. We will never give up,” Charlie Hebdo editor Riss Sourisseau wrote in explaining the decision to re-publish the cartoons.
Riss Sourisseau’s resolution echoed that of his murdered predecessor, Stephane Charbonnier, who said that “I would rather die standing than live on my knees.”
Charbonnier. Sourisseau. This is what bravery sounds like. This is what Muslim fanatics wish to destroy.
Yogi says
Freaking savages!!!, I’m sick and tired of this bullshit , leave the West alone, just live in your shitholes and let Us live our life in democracy and freedom, stay away from the West period!!..
David says
Yes why come to such an unacceptable place, well to you lot, we quite like it, prefer it to anything your lot can offer. You go your way, we will stick with our ways.
mortimer says
Yogi, the Western Leftards want more Muslims. If America votes for Biden, it will bring about de facto Sharia blasphemy restrictions in the United States as well as more Muslims. European globalists want Muslims to blur and remove all nationalisms in European countries. With that done, nothing will stand in the way of a globalist elite of unelected bureaucrats and billionaires who control the population through cameras and microphones recording everyone’s thoughts 24/7.
David says
The insulted are not worth comment.
t. says
Bravery and courage are almost non existent anymore, in the west.
This is refreshing to see C. H. redoing it.
gravenimage says
Yes–especially after what they have suffered, I am heartened to see this courage from Charlie Hebdo staff.
mortimer says
No Muslim believes in freedom of expression, because he believes in TAQLID. We see this in Pakistan’s robot rage-army.
TAQLID is the BLIND FOLLOWING of sheikhs WITHOUT an ordinary Muslim asking for explanations of their ‘rulings’. The purpose of TAQLID is to extinguish the independent thought of human reason.
These brainless, ferocious demonstrations of homicidal rage in Pakistan remind me of the observation of André Servier:
“Islam was not a torch, as has been claimed, but an extinguisher. Conceived in a barbarous brain for the use of a barbarous people, it was – and it remains – incapable of adapting itself to civilization. Wherever it has dominated, it has broken the impulse towards progress and checked the evolution of society.”
– Andre Servier, in L’islam et la psychologie du musulman (1923)
mortimer says
A freedom of expression that is not USED is useless.
mgoldberg says
Where are the ‘artists’ who demand the freedom to do what they please, in this barbaric chant of death to anyone. This is the place for such people to sneer and belittle the madness and evil intent of such peoples and such a belief. Where are they?
gravenimage says
I’m an artist and I stand with these brave cartoonists.
But you are right–most artists, especially those ‘artists’–are conspicuously silent right now. Just appalling.
Rarely says
“Pakistan goes crazy”??? No not “crazy” but “crazier” which many would have thought was impossible. Pakistan just keeps moving the bar.
Cthulhu says
No. Just another day in Pakistan.
gravenimage says
True, Rarely.
Bad Penguin says
Isnt Pakistan the country with the highest level of inbreeding? Its showing.
End PC says
The Devil hates most to be mocked, and these are the Devil’s minions.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
First off, let me say, THREE CHEERS FOR CHARLIE HEBDO!!!
Printing those cartoons is not gratuitous provocation as some have suggested in the past. I see it as a poignant and moral response to a real world crisis. And the crisis is the dangerous stupidity of muslims who would kill or terrorize over trivial “offenses” against an idiotic and immoral religon. If islam truly were a “religion of peace” then muslims would instead express compassion and sorrow over this cartoon “error.” If their religion had taught them wisely then their response would be one of intelligent persuasion, not apish violence. But see, islam is not really about wisdom, or love, or forgiveness, or compassion (like Christianity, for example), but rather it is more about aggressively converting or extorting others into submission. That’s what islam is about, “submission,” whether you want to or not. Now, there’s a reason behind every action and the reason for these cartoons is a noble one, I truly believe that. Satire can be a very effective way to convey truths and make a point. By printing those cartoons they are very poignantly defending freedom of conscience and our fundamental right to freely express. And by the way, just who do these muslims think they are, anyway? We’re not allowed cartoons but they can have a god and prophet that threatens us with murder and subjugation? They can be outraged over some silly satire, but if we complain about all the murder and terror their religion causes we’re bigots and racists? There is more logic in Alice’s Wonderland than in the heads of these muslims. We’re the ones who should be rioting, not them.
We know that what we have in America is FAR better than the violent, retarded sh*t that muslims have for their demon. And we aren’t going to let these superstitious retards telling us what we can or can’t say, kapish? We in America will decide our own destiny, without all the retardation and violence that always comes with islam. That should be our goal as a free people in a free nation. The demonology of muslims has no place in our future.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Agostino.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Is that your way of saying I’m brilliant, handsome, and wise? Just wondering 😉
Relic says
yep
gravenimage says
Of course, Agostino! 🙂
Bada Bhai says
Indeed there is much sadness in Pakistan that Muslims have been so pained through this well thought out and well planned physiological plot. Why punish 12 or so perpetrators when you can get to them all.
5 years in the planning , well timed to coincide with the pandemic so that lots of people can become sick and others die, I can see in my mind’s eye the finger wagging and lots of laughter in the cafes of France…
“sacre bleu … “we have them, so we do” ha ha ha ha.
Let me tell you that the West is not advanced to the point where you can positively disprove beliefs and the existence of Allah Tala beyond doubt. You prefer to call them savages, but they hold firm to their “5 a day” for their health and wealth.
The battle you say is one of freedom of speech, but there have to be limits. If someone says “FIRE” in packed cinema hall; is that free speech?, panicking and stampeding paid folks like so many yellow bellied western men do these days .. leaving their fat blonde pork limbed women behind to fend for themselves
ha ha.
Still I ask all muslms to show restraint and not be baited by CH types. Let Allah Tala deal with them if he so wishes or not.
TOP TIP: Invite thousands more Muslims to France to teach them freedom of speech so they can spread this gospel back to the people in Pakistan.
Ecosse1314 says
They do not need to be invited. They come of their own free will to escape their islamic hell holes. On arrival they then proceed to try and turn their host country into a mirror image of the squalor they left behind.
Btw shouting fire in a cinema is not a good analogy. Doing so would only be a an act of malice to cause injury. Opinions freely expressed do not cause injury. Only those opposed to free speech do that.
Bada Bhai says
You say “Btw shouting fire in a cinema is not a good analogy”.
Who cares …. its free speech …i.e. I can say what I like , where I like and how I like
Your response exemplifies exactly the problems with limitless free speech. Opinions freely expressed DO cause mental injury… YOU however are not prepared to accept that but… it is the reason why 2 out of every 3 marriages in the West fail…
you freely express your opinion to your wife … she gets caused mental injury … and she uses her fat porky limbs and leaves you.
TOP TIP: Never insult your fat wife’s limbs as porky.
Ecosse1314 says
Here is an example of free speech..you are off your chuffin trolley.
Your replies are also racist but i let you off as you are obviously an idiot.
Rarely says
Bada. Just amazing!! Who turned on the computer for you?
dusty says
There’s a reason many muslim women are fully veiled and wear burkas.
FYI says
Yes.
Protection from…muslim men.
Let’s not pretend it has anything to do with modesty:
“If they do that[wear the hijab]it will be KNOWN that they are free and that they are not servants and whores”
Tafsir ibn kathir {33:59}
‘free’ does not mean a female is free;it means she is not classified as an infidel/whore/slave/servant.
Look what happens when the female is NOT veiled:’it will be KNOWN’ that they are servants/whores..and this has nothing to do with any god as it is clearly man made{of course it is in the holey koran -but that is man made too}
This is the same barbarous cult whose misogynistic Arab god ‘allah’ has a Doctrine of Hate[al walaa wal baraa} and a religious Apartheid system that discriminates against non-muslims{koran 98:6}
Note the misogyny and racism of the islamic trolls who post here:they never get the Irony of what they are saying.They are too busy defaming their religion and showing us how intolerant they are as followers of the Cult.
TOP TIP:All that ‘5 a day’ butt in the air show,all that false islamic piety, all that OCD like wudu washing ..is all meaningless anyway.
All that hijab wearing is in honor of a fake god who teaches women legally have HALF the value of men{koran 2:282]due to their deficient minds{Sahih Bukhari 2658}.
Never be fooled by all that false islamic piety:it is worthless!
Kafir007 says
Muslims get injured by TRUE speech spoken freely.
Like Mohammad was a NASTY Pedophile. It’s true, but you will get offended.
Mohammad was a dirty camel PISS drinker. It’s TRUE, but you will get offended.
Muslims hate the TRUTH.
Michael Copeland says
Shouting “Fire!” maliciously in a theatre to cause panic is NOT free speech and is not claimed to be.
Shouting “Fire!” in a crowded theatre that is on fire is absolutely fine and praiseworthy.
It is not the shouting that decides the issue: it is the truth of the warning.
gravenimage says
+1
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Let me tell you that the West is not advanced to the point where you can positively disprove beliefs and the existence of Allah Tala beyond doubt. Bada
True, I can’t prove with certainty that allah isn’t the true creator. But I can infer beyond a reasonable doubt that a god of allah’s character isn’t god, because his attributes are that of a dim-witted brute motivated by bigoted desires and selfish aims. Such an entity does not inspire in my mind the idea that allah is the source of all knowledge, wisdom, and love in the universe. It’s an audacious claim that is not consistent with what we know about virtuous and wise behavior. Allah can’t be “all knowing” if he doesn’t even know how to act as considerate as your average human. Allah can’t be “all wise” when his religion promotes theologically absurd ideas. And Allah can’t be “all-loving” if his religion depends on the persecution and murder of those he thinks are spiritually lost or confused. I don’t understand why muslims can’t understand that commonsense observation. So you’re right, I can’t prove with absolute certainty that allah isn’t the true creator, but I can say with certainty that we should still reject his teachings as morally insane. We should reject the teachings of islam as anti-human, anti-democracy, anti-women, anti-freedom, and against rationality and reasoned thinking. So if you are a muslim then you should leave islam and join us, and help us save humanity from the senseless brutality of that ancient barbaric cult called islam.
The battle you say is one of freedom of speech, but there have to be limits. If someone says “FIRE” in packed cinema hall; is that free speech?
No, that’s most likely a crime meant to instill fear and panic. Telling truths, even “hurtful” ones, about a religion that promotes the murder and subjugation of unbelievers is not of the same nature; instead it’s a moral response to a demented ideology for which muslims terrorize others. Muslims are the instigators of their own offense, they invite the world’s criticisms because of their actions and the beliefs they hold.
Still I ask all muslms to show restraint and not be baited by CH types. Let Allah Tala deal with them if he so wishes or not.
Your god is already dealing with us, in the form of 9/11, 7/7, and 10’s of thousands of other violent acts against non-muslims. Christians are persecuted for muslim bigotry, and Jews, and Hindus, and anyone else who does not conform to islam’s retarded barbarities. Your fake display of spiritual deference to allah is not true spirituality, it’s just a curse from you onto us. And that’s why muslims by and large are a curse upon humanity, because so many of them think like you.
gravenimage says
Good post.
gravenimage says
The vile Bada Bhai wrote:
Indeed there is much sadness in Pakistan that Muslims have been so pained through this well thought out and well planned physiological plot. Why punish 12 or so perpetrators when you can get to them all.
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This isn’t “sadness”–this is rage over anyone daring to say anything critical over the savage violence of Islam.
Then this last is a threat to murder all of the staff of Charlie Hebdo. Just sickening.
More:
5 years in the planning , well timed to coincide with the pandemic so that lots of people can become sick and others die, I can see in my mind’s eye the finger wagging and lots of laughter in the cafes of France…
“sacre bleu … “we have them, so we do” ha ha ha ha.
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It is unhinged Muslims who have decided to gather in the streets to riot over cartoons. Infidels had nothing to do with what savages in Pakistan decide to do.
More:
Let me tell you that the West is not advanced to the point where you can positively disprove beliefs and the existence of Allah Tala beyond doubt. You prefer to call them savages, but they hold firm to their “5 a day” for their health and wealth.
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“Health and wealth”? Then why is this Mohammedan fretting over his moronic coreligionists giving each other the Coronavirus while they are out rioting? As for wealth, Muslims countries, save for those with unearned oil wealth, are near or at the very bottom of world income. Unless Muslims are enslaving Infidels, they’ve got nothing, because Islam teaches fatalism, that productive labor is to be disdained, and that reason and innovation is Haram.
More:
The battle you say is one of freedom of speech, but there have to be limits. If someone says “FIRE” in packed cinema hall; is that free speech?, panicking and stampeding paid folks like so many yellow bellied western men do these days .. leaving their fat blonde pork limbed women behind to fend for themselves
ha ha.
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What crap. Firstly, it is *falsely* yelling fire in a crowded theater that is not free speech. Also not free speech is death threats. Apart from this, freedom of speech is just that–including speech that I might not personally like, or others might not personally like–including touchy Mohammedans. The difference is that I and other civilized people support freedom of speech.
More:
Still I ask all muslms to show restraint and not be baited by CH types. Let Allah Tala deal with them if he so wishes or not.
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What crap, given that Bada Bhai was talking above about “getting to” the whole of the Charlie Hebdo staff.
More:
TOP TIP: Invite thousands more Muslims to France to teach them freedom of speech so they can spread this gospel back to the people in Pakistan.
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What obvious bs–what Bada Bhai really wants is more of his vicious coreligionists in France to murder innocent cartoonists. **Ugh**.
More, in reply to Ecosse1314:
You say “Btw shouting fire in a cinema is not a good analogy”.
Who cares …. its free speech …i.e. I can say what I like , where I like and how I like
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Pious Muslims understand *nothing* about freedom.
More:
Your response exemplifies exactly the problems with limitless free speech. Opinions freely expressed DO cause mental injury… YOU however are not prepared to accept that but… it is the reason why 2 out of every 3 marriages in the West fail…
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More crap–these are utterly false numbers.
Then, the idea that Infidels insult their wives and Muslims do not could not be more grimly laughable. Islam is not only misogynist to its core, but it sacralizes child marriage, forced marriage, polygamy, the “Triple Talaq” instant divorce for men only, wife beating, and “Honor Killing”.
Recall that when here last he was spouting apologia on this thread for a Muslim murdering his two young daughters:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/09/texas-muslim-who-murdered-his-daughters-for-dating-non-muslims-didnt-want-to-raise-whores-as-daughters
Before that, he was blaming a woman for her Muslim husband trying to murder her for having dared to leave Islam. Quite a record here…
Ecosse1314 says
Very incisive and better than my attempt. Congrats GI
FYI says
Agreed.
An islamic troll who posts here at JW is like an idiot who sticks his head in a Lion’s mouth and doesn’t see it coming.
They never answer questions:they just quote their koran back at you and brazenly defend the indefensible.
When you give mahometans back their own unsavory teachings about ‘perfect’ mo or show them the errors of the koran,they’ll just start screaming or soiling themselves at the trauma of being told things they didn’t know about their ‘holy’ book and pederast prophet.Notice how racist and misogynistic they are.The usual projection,the blame the infidels game of course,the race card{but islam is not a race} and the ‘islamophobia’ trick.
One might say that their responses exemplify exactly the limitless problems caused by islam.
GreekEmpress says
+1
But I liked the “off your chuffin trolley” comment as well, Ecosse 1314! ?
gravenimage says
Thank you, Ecosse and FYI.
You are both fine troll fighters yourselves.
And this is true–moronic apologists for Islamic savagery come here and almost never expect that so many of the Anti-Jihadists here know all about their vicious creed, and that their ham-fisted Taqiyya won’t work here.
Bada Bhai says
The vile Mr Gravenimage has misrepresented my comment so I need to straighten him out.
Bada: Why punish 12 or so perpetrators when you can get to them all.
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GI: Then this last is a threat to murder all of the staff of Charlie Hebdo. Just sickening.
So I am talking about the 12 muslims about to go on trial… I was saying that CH has targeted all muslims ….i.e. Why punish 12 (who are on trial) or so perpetrators when you can get to them all (all muslims) via the cartoons.
I have NEVER advocated or condoned the murder of any CH staff… just make that clear to this vile Islamophobe… he who thinks he is superior then us.
Hah hah … he will still be saying that when he is woken up by the 5am call to prayer… where ever he is … pathetic loser islamophobe.
TOP TIP: GI read my posts carefully even if you hate muslims
James Lincoln says
Bada Bhai,
First of all, gravenimage is a woman. If you had followed her posts historically, you would know that.
gravenimage is highly intelligent – and highly knowledgeable about islam. She uses factual, evidence-based logic and can provide reliable citations.
I would recommend not trying to match wits with her – you are way, way out of your league…
Ecosse1314 says
Straighten him (sic) out. I very much doubt you could straighten out a paperclip. I would add that my dog is superior to you. She at least enjoys pork.
gravenimage says
More from the appalling Bada Bhai:
The vile Mr Gravenimage has misrepresented my comment so I need to straighten him out.
Bada: Why punish 12 or so perpetrators when you can get to them all.
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GI: Then this last is a threat to murder all of the staff of Charlie Hebdo. Just sickening.
So I am talking about the 12 muslims about to go on trial… I was saying that CH has targeted all muslims ….i.e. Why punish 12 (who are on trial) or so perpetrators when you can get to them all (all muslims) via the cartoons.
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Let’s parse this claim, shall we? Firstly, Bada Bhai initially wrote this:
“Indeed there is much sadness in Pakistan that Muslims have been so pained through this well thought out and well planned physiological plot. Why punish 12 or so perpetrators when you can get to them all.”
Clearly, the “perpetrators” here refers to the cartoonists, not the murderers.
This is also clear not just due to the phrasing, but because Bada Bhai’s coreligionists murdered 12 cartoonists in the 2015 massacre at the Charlie Hebdo offices.
Then, there are not 12 Jihadists on trial for the massacre, but instead 14:
“Charlie Hebdo: 14 suspects on trial over Paris massacre”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53975350
So Bada Bhai clearly is not referring to Jihadists on trial here.
Then, note how sick even his false apologia is–he is pretending that daring to say anything critical of the horrors of Islam is the same as trying murderers–and that the murderers should be let free to murder again because criticizing Islam is worse.
Even his attempt to reframe his sick spewings is utterly twisted.
And–not that this is terribly important–but I am not “Mr. Gravenimage”.
Yet more:
I have NEVER advocated or condoned the murder of any CH staff… just make that clear to this vile Islamophobe… he who thinks he is superior then us.
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Do I think that I am superior to Muslims murdering cartoonists, and–as Bada Bing himself has made clear–to a man murdering his daughters and another trying to murder his wife? Actually, I do–as I’m sure does every other civilized person here.
It is because we are morally superior that we are opposed to barbaric Muslims flooding into our lands brutalizing us and trying to impose barbaric Shari’ah law on us.
More:
Hah hah … he will still be saying that when he is woken up by the 5am call to prayer… where ever he is … pathetic loser islamophobe.
TOP TIP: GI read my posts carefully even if you hate muslims
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More threats–that Muslims will continue to take over our civilized lands–and continue to murder all those who stand against this Islamic savagery.
Doesn’t Bada Bhai realize that far from being an effective apologist for Islam that he is just continuing to expose its ugliness?
gravenimage says
Thank you, James.
peter says
This is one thing that muslim apologists indulge in ,personal attack when they have no answer to constructive criticism!
Rarely says
Charlie Hebdo hardly qualifies as “constructive criticism”. It tries to be satirical and funny but badly misses the mark but is spot on at being offensive.
gravenimage says
Rarely, some of this stuff is just “offensive”, but much of it actually has something to say, like the cartoon of the crying Muhammed saying “It’s hard to be loved by idiots”.
This is not just offensive–it actually makes a salient point.
Then, even more so is the cartoon of the truck running over people in the streets, titled “Islam, religion of peace”.
To claim that such criticism of Islam and its sick values is just “offensive” without purpose is something I have to disagree with.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Charlie Hebdo hardly qualifies as “constructive criticism”. It tries to be satirical and funny but badly misses the mark but is spot on at being offensive.
Rarely,
A person can be “offended” over anything, but that doesn’t make that offense justified. For example, a KKK member can be offended over the color of ones skin to the point of murder, but that doesn’t mean their offense deserves sensitive respect. It’s similar with muslims, they have no right to be offended when we criticize their violent ideology that threatens us. People who are threatened with murder and terror should feel no special need to care about the feelings of those who are doing the threatening. Muslims invite this biting satire by threatening our own liberties and lives. They have no moral vantage over us regarding their prophet and religion. Mo was a robber, murderer, torturer, and child abuser, and their religion is aggressive and morally deranged and a curse on any culture it invades (as history has shown). Satire has become a western tradition that we value as an effective tool for conveying truths (not to mention laughs,) and we should not feel obligated to forsake that for what I just described. What’s more offensive, a cartoon that criticizes a violent religion or the religion itself? If you answer the cartoon then I would have to question your loyalty to JW. Faithful muslims are like the KKK member, their “offended” feelings aren’t justified. We’re the ones that should be offended in all this, not them. Islam has killed and oppressed millions, a cartoon never killed anyone.
James Lincoln says
Agostino Armo Pellegrini,
“What’s more offensive, a cartoon that criticizes a violent religion or the religion itself?”
Perfectly stated, my compliments.
gravenimage says
+1
elee says
Vive Charlie Hebdo!
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
Michael Copeland says
In Pakistani culture it is not the substance of the argument that counts. It is the display of passion and the use of an aggressive response that are admired and considered to be the winning position. Argument is considered weakness.
Once again, these “demonstrations” are not spontaneous. The Soldiers of Allah are obeying instructions in the mosque. The ordinary muslim is not expected or encouraged to have his own opinion: he is expected to obey.
“The Ummah possesses no power except to acknowledge and obey.” – Dr. Salah al Sawy
“No one can regard any field of his affairs as personal and private. The Islamic State bears a kind of resemblance to the Fascist and Communist states.” – Maududi, revered Pakistani scholar
gravenimage says
Good analysis.
gravenimage says
Charlie Hebdo Reprints Muhammad Cartoons, Pakistan Goes Crazy
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Pathetic. Notice Muslims never act like this protesting Jihad terror or the abuse of little children. But expose their repulsive “Prophet” and they lose it.
Crusader 666 says
Would to God that Western politicians (a.k.a. Quislings) had the courage of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists!
Such politicians seem to believe that by grovellingly facilitating the Muslim take-over of Western countries, they, and their children, will be spared the inevitable rapes of both males and females, followed by beheadings in the town Square.
The time has come for every politician to be asked the simple question “Will you make a stand against the advance of the Muslim barbarians into our sacred homeland?”
gravenimage says
There are a few brave politicians–Geert Wilders in the Netherlands, and to a lesser extent Salvini in Italy and Nigel Farage in the UK–but all too few. Of course, they have all been excoriated for standing up against Jihad at all.
Walter Sieruk says
The message is so important that is should be reiterated. The message is that the god of Islam, Allah has to be a weak powerless nothing god .The reason is because so many Muslims of the nation of Pakistan strongly feel that they have to help Allah out to get revenge for the insult to Muhammad ” by those cartoons of Muhammad reprinted in Charlie Hebdo magazine.
So much so that they even want to kill the cartoonist and others of that “terrible affront against Muhammad” So it’s very obvious that this Allah cant’ handle it so he needs Muslims to “give him a hand” on this situation .
In great contrast , the God of the Bible is almighty and all powerful so when the times Jesus had been mock and made fun of in magazine cartoons and also plays Christians don’t get so worked up that they actually become literally enraged. Not because they don’t love Jesus but because the God of Christianity can handle Himself and doesn’t need Christian to “help him out” on a specific situation of the mocking of Jesus.
As in Bible informs its reader ” Do not be deceived , God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.” Galatians 6:7. [N.K.J.V.]
infidel says
Ok we will certainly take the cartoons back the day Ur mad Mullah stops abusing and cursing and spewing venom on other faiths every Fri Jummah from his pulpit. That makes it even…Even though the debt of Islam towards infidels is much greater due to the unconscionable crimes committed in the name of Jehaad.
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
I have not seen the cartoons being offensive to MUSLIMES. Can they be printed on each comment page related with it.
Christopher Watson says
What’s got an IQ of 200?
The population of Pakistan.
Giacomo Latta says
Gee, so many muslims, with independence of thought, massing together at the same time at the same place after having requested the same placard from the local printer. Demagoguery, sorry, democracy at its finest at work in Pakistan. It must be its finest because it doesn’t look like it will be getting better soon.
OLD GUY says
Murdering insanity describes islamic reactions to a cartoon. Islam has so much hate in its heart that murder is always its response to anything it disagrees with. Lets see honor killing beheading your daughter because she didn’t have permission to go next-door, or she dated a non-muslim etc. Oh I almost forgot, throwing gays off of tall buildings, beating your wife to death for not obeying, Killing is the answer for islam.
Islam is the most hatful evil murdering ideology. Let’s close the border to the Islamic people for the safety and survival of our society.
Khushi says
And to think that at one time the whole of pakistan was populated by wise and peaceful Hindus who were forced to convert to islam at sword point.
UVG says
‘Charlie He do Reprints Muhammad…..Pakistan goes crazy!’
LMAO. Pakistan has a thing or two coming their way. Pakis like other chuslims are in anguish because they know MO was an ugly dude.