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German public broadcaster DW: ‘Islam still faces obstacles on path to be part of Germany’

Sep 22, 2020 1:00 pm By Robert Spencer 40 Comments

This article bemoans the reluctance of many in Germany to make accommodations for Muslims. The idea that Muslims should assimilate into German society rather than German society adapting to them is simply not on the table. The principle is always and everywhere the same: in Muslim countries, one must conform one’s behavior to Islamic sensibilities. And in non-Muslim countries, one must conform one’s behavior to Islamic sensibilities.

“Islam still faces obstacles on path to be part of Germany,” by Christoph Strack, DW, September 19, 2020:

It was a short statement that had a lot of impact. In his speech almost 10 years ago on the 20th anniversary of German reunification, Germany’s then-President Christian [Wulff] declared that Islam was a part of Germany.

The claim sparked a nation-wide debate on the role of Islam in the country — one that had continued to this day. Wulff’s 2010 statement enraged some, while resonating deeply with others.

Today, millions of Muslims call Germany their home. Some families have been living in the country for two, three and even four generations. But, for some, the question of integrating into German mainstream society, and gaining recognition, has not been without its difficulties.

Riem Spielhaus, an expert on Islam at the University of Göttingen, says Wulff’s statement struck a chord. In the following years, she says, much progress was made in terms of the integration of and acceptance towards Muslims. But by 2016 this process stagnated, she says. “And we have partially seen advances undone.”

Where, exactly, has progress been made? And where are improvements needed? Spielhaus says the German government rarely has the power to push for nation-wide changes, such as the introduction of a Muslim chaplaincy in the German military.

In many cases, the expert says, Germany’s various states are the ones with the legal means to make society more accommodating towards Muslims. This relates to things like Islamic burials, giving time off on Islamic holidays, offering spiritual care in hospitals and jails, and teaching Islamic theology at universities. German states differ the most when it comes to Islamic religious lessons in school.

Spielhaus welcomes that German courts are changing their perspective, too. When ruling on fundamental religious issues, many are now emphasizing the importance of religious plurality….

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Filed Under: Featured, Germany, immigration, journalistic bias Tagged With: Christian Wulff, Riem Spielhaus, University of Göttingen


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  1. j c a reid says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 1:05 pm

    Thought Germany had had enough of Fascism/Nazism. now they want the Authentic 7th Century “Desert” Nazi version. Lots of Germans are losing or simply ignoring their Common Sense.

    Reply
    • Ole Pederson says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 5:39 pm

      Common sense is switched off for most Germans, they are brainwashed by permanent propaganda bombing via mainstream media.

      Usually Germans are sensible folks.

      But even Newt Gingrich understood dissident views are “verboten”.

      Reply
    • tedh754 says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 9:04 pm

      Unless they want to finish what Hitler started, they will disavow islam and all it stands for.

      Reply
    • Michael Copeland says

      Sep 23, 2020 at 8:14 am

      The headline uses the wrong word.
      It should be:
      “Islam still PLACES obstacles on path to be part of Germany”.

      Reply
      • gravenimage says

        Sep 23, 2020 at 11:08 pm

        +1

        Reply
  2. Wellington says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    Islam does not want to be part of Germany. Rather, it wants Germany.

    Huge difference.

    Reply
    • Ade Fegan says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 2:00 pm

      Yep ..
      and moderates are a convenient smokescreen and spawning ground

      Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 5:18 pm

      Spot on, Wellington.

      Reply
    • tim gallagher says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 5:58 pm

      I agree, Wellington. What a stupid statement it is about Islam wanting to be part of Germany or any other non-Muslim society. So many people still seem to be so ignorant about islam’s nature. Talk about slow learners. How long is it going to take for these idiots to wake up?

      Reply
      • tedh754 says

        Sep 22, 2020 at 9:06 pm

        There is 1400 years of history of what islam want for anyone who wants to learn.

        Reply
        • tim gallagher says

          Sep 23, 2020 at 12:28 am

          Yes, it’s all there for people to learn about and to wake up, tedh754. 1400 years of misery and slaughter that islam has brought to the human race. It’s been such a curse. Yet there are still so many gullible people around who don’t get it and many spend there time telling us how we need to respect islam.

      • Red Pill says

        Sep 23, 2020 at 6:02 am

        Until they or their families are attacked by the religion of piece.

        Reply
      • Peter35 says

        Sep 23, 2020 at 1:40 pm

        I agree, Wellington Tim and G.I.: when has islam EVER assimilated?
        The koran forbids it.

        Reply
        • Francis Weber says

          Sep 23, 2020 at 3:13 pm

          Quran 5:51 the 3:28 in that order come to mind. Then read 8:12.
          Keep looking over your shoulder, I do!

      • Francis Weber says

        Sep 23, 2020 at 3:10 pm

        It will be to late when they are paying the Jizzya to keep their heads attached to their bodies.
        They need to read the history of the U.S. Marines.

        Reply
    • Hamish MacDonald says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 10:39 pm

      Yes indeed, and unless the Germans begin breeding ASAP it might get Germany

      Reply
      • Red Pill says

        Sep 23, 2020 at 6:03 am

        Forget the German breading, not happening.

        Reply
    • Jayell says

      Sep 23, 2020 at 2:54 am

      Absolutely right. Unconditional respect and consideration for others is not written into islam’s creed or objectives, it’s just domination and totalitarian ‘control’ pure and simple, whatever righteous-sounding, lying bullsh*t its apologists try to cook up to sell it to the masses – which is why this so-called ‘religion’s’ name correctly translates as ‘submission’.

      In the UK, we used to be told that the strength of the German people lay in their love of organisation and order and consequent willingness to comply with (= submit to?) strong leadership – and that this went horribly wrong when the likes of Hitler & Co. appeared on the scene. If that analysis is correct in any way, God help us if the Nazis of the 1930’s are now replaced with the Proto-Nazis of the Dark Ages.

      Reply
    • Red Pill says

      Sep 23, 2020 at 6:01 am

      +1

      Reply
    • Francis Weber says

      Sep 23, 2020 at 3:06 pm

      It also wants the 75% of the world that so far it hasn’t colonised.

      Reply
  3. Ade Fegan says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 1:59 pm

    obstacles : koofar .. truth .. democracy

    Reply
  4. Walter Sieruk says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 2:21 pm

    What this is in Germany is the sly sinister insidious movement that is known as the Stealth jihad otherwise called the Muslim method of Islamic Gradualism. In contrast to the way of the violent jihad or also called the militant jihad .This non-violent form of the jihad for Islam is a very sly, insidious, subtle and deceptive way of working for the advancement of Islam.

    This Muslim scheme for achieving the goal of the Islamic agenda is as, many times, as subtly effective as it is demonically clever.

    Furthermore, this Islamic gradualism, in some ways, is very similar to the instruction printed in the book entitled THE ART OF WAR by Sun Tzu. Which reads “At first, then, exhibit the coyness of a maiden, until the enemy gives you an opening; afterwards emulate the rapidity of a running hare, and it will be too late for the enemy to opposes you”

    Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 5:19 pm

      +1

      Reply
    • Red Pill says

      Sep 23, 2020 at 6:05 am

      +1

      Reply
  5. Walter Sieruk says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    Sadly too many Germans now seem beguiled and taken in by the scheming jihadist /Muslims who attempt to have Sharia law set up in the Germany engage in the doctrines of the Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya which is very insidious. Taqyyia is the jihad dogma that deception is a good thing to do as long as it’s done for the advancement of Islam.

    Nevertheless, the God of the Bible “condemns those who devise wicked schemes…” Proverbs 12:11. [N.I.V.]

    Likewise, Proverbs 12:20 teaches “Deceit is in the hearts of those who plot evil.”

    Reply
  6. Danilo Fonseca says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 4:05 pm

    I think that the muslim people has rebuilding yours countries faced the problems and not runnaway their, but each one knows which better yourself.

    Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 7:38 pm

      How have Muslims raping, stabbing, and bombing Infidels been rebuilding our countries? How is their trying to impose oppressive Shari’ah law on us rebuilding our countries–unless by “rebuilding” you mean transforming our civilized lands into violent and chaotic Islamic crap holes? How does any of this horror make things better?

      Reply
  7. Jackson says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 4:10 pm

    Turks have a nasty habit of murdering their daughters for dating Germans. There have even been movies made on the this Ottoman legacy, like one recently about the Aynur murder.

    Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 7:40 pm

      Just horrible.

      Reply
  8. gravenimage says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 5:17 pm

    German public broadcaster DW: ‘Islam still faces obstacles on path to be part of Germany’
    ………………………..

    In other words, we ‘filthy Infidels’ are not bending over fast enough.

    Islam will never accord with German and other civilized Western values.

    Reply
  9. Princess says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 8:03 pm

    This is a state owned TV station that propagates this kind of nonsense, and worst, German citizens are forced to pay a monthly license fee so that they can keep airing this kind of nonsensical propaganda,.

    Reply
    • Red Pill says

      Sep 23, 2020 at 6:08 am

      Insanity is part of Germany, unfortunately.

      Reply
  10. SAFI says

    Sep 22, 2020 at 11:37 pm

    “Islam is always the victim” that is the truism we’re all being brainwashed into accepting

    Reply
    • SAFI says

      Sep 22, 2020 at 11:38 pm

      and when indoctination fails they just use intimidation

      Reply
  11. Aussie Infidel says

    Sep 23, 2020 at 7:34 am

    The problem with Islam is not religious issues but its criminal political tenets. Most people couldn’t care less what god people worship, but they are very much concerned when a ‘religion’ commands its followers to hate non-Muslims (Quran 3:28, 4:144, 5:51, 33:57, 3360-62, 40:10, 40:35, 60:4); and to fight and kill them to establish Islam as the only religion, (Quran 2:190-193, 4:74, 4:89, 8:12, 8:39, 8:60, 9:5, 9:14, 9:29, 9:73, etc).

    When Islam removes all those hateful, offensive and violent political tenets form its holy scriptures, it might command more respect from non-muslims; but until it does, Islam will remain a pariah among religions.

    Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Sep 23, 2020 at 11:10 pm

      There is no separation of Mosque and State in Islam.

      Reply
  12. No Muzzies Here says

    Sep 23, 2020 at 8:04 am

    They do not want to make Islam part of Germany. They plan to make Germany part of Islam.

    Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Sep 23, 2020 at 11:10 pm

      So true.

      Reply
  13. andrew mckendrick says

    Sep 23, 2020 at 11:21 am

    Looking at that photograph , can`t help thinking , brace yourself Abdul!

    Reply
    • FYI says

      Sep 23, 2020 at 6:53 pm

      That fraudulent display of islamic piety, that holy butt in the air show in PUBLIC?

      Do you know what allah in the koran says about muslims putting on such a PUBLIC show?

      “Lo! The HYPOCRITES seek to beguile allah but it is allah who beguileth them.When they stand up to worship they do it languidly and to be SEEN OF MEN and are mindful of allah but little”
      koran 4:142

      Do you see from that photo how they are clearly ‘praying’ IN PUBLIC so as ‘to be seen of men’?

      NEVER be fooled by muslims in their holy butt show:they don’t even know who they ‘pray’ to.

      The fact that they are ‘praying’ IN PUBLIC ‘to be seen of men’ shows them to be hypocrites according to their own koran:thus it could be said that they are too busy putting on a holy show to notice that they are proving themselves to be hypocrites.Of course they will not have read the koran and so their hypocritical behavior shows ‘they are mindful of allah but little’

      muslims don’t get Irony or Logic.They have such tiny minds.They don’t even know the koran!

      Reply

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