Muslim and LGBT groups in America and other Western countries have often formed “intersectional” political alliances in the name of promoting minority rights. Such bonds are ironic given condemnation of homosexuality and “transgenderism” in traditional Islamic doctrine as well as the radical individualism and secularism of LGBT agendas. Ismail Royer, who served years in prison after being convicted of jihad terror plotting and now asserts that he is a “moderate Muslim,” is the director of the Religious Freedom Institute’s Islam and Religious Freedom Action Team. He joins Conservative Casual Friday host Andrew E. Harrod to discuss the theological and political paradoxes and questions of such a coalition attempting to unite divergent groups. Can Muslims truly approve of LGBT beliefs? Do LGBT groups really respect Muslims, particularly in religious freedom matters? Or do LGBT groups themselves promote “Islamophobia”? In case of conflict between these groups, which will gain the upper hand? Who is using whom in these tactical groupings?
LB says
“…radical individualism and secularism of LGBT agendas.”
This statement implies that LGBTQWERTY+++ groups and muslims are at odds because the former are “secular” and “individualistic” compared to the latter’s tribalism, which should be correct in theory, but in reality it couldn’t be further from the truth.
Before you attack me, let me explain what I mean. In theory, there should be no more secular and individualistic person on the planet than a gay (or any other letter in the acronym) person, because they can only practice their sexual preference in a free and open-minded society. Live and let live, meaning you do what you want and I’ll do what I want as long as neither of us are hurting anybody. That’s the theory behind it, correct?
However, the reality is drastically different. How so you ask? Well just go to any “pride” parade and ask the people there what they think about Trump (and in turn, his supporters) and watch as the parade goers (and supporters looking from the side) turn from loving sweethearts to venom-spitting vipers. I’ve seen hours of footage to support this claim and will link if anyone doubts me. Besides, it’s no secret that many vocal LGBTQWERTY+++ activists are also active Antifa/BLM members who are currently participating in the riots and burning down the country–LITERALLY!
And before you say “not all gays are leftists”, spare me the crap. The majority are leftists, just how all LGBTQWERTY+++ groups and organizations are leftists. Centrist and right-wing gays are a minority (almost an insignificant one) who are treated by their “fellows” like literal Nazis and avoided like the plague (needless to say they are banned from all the hottest parties). To their credit, I wager to guess that there are many more “reasonable” (read: anyone who’s not far left) gays, but unlike their outspoken brethren, they dare not come out of the leftist closet in fear of being shut out by their peers.
TL;DR: Why are muslims and LGBTQWERTY+++ orgs allies? Two reasons: 1) They are both hive-minded and tribal, and 2) “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, meaning they share a common goal to get rid of Trump and his “racist Nazi supporters” who oppose mass 3rd world (muslim) illegal immigration. Also, muslims like burning down non-muslim countries, so these BLM/Antifa riots are working in their favor.
Sylvia Drummond says
LB – You are absolutely right.
Keith O says
LB
I reckon your pretty much spot on with your assessment.
What will be “interesting”, is when the need for an alliance is no longer needed and the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” is no longer applicable.
Remember the west and Stalin were allies during the war and then we had the cold war with the USSR after the war finished.
These two groups will be at each other like rabid dogs at the first chance and all it will take is the execution by the Mudslimes of a couple of homosexuals. (I’m old enough to remember when gay meant happy).
gravenimage says
Keith, Muslims regularly murder gay people.
abad says
+1
I have said it before and I will say it once again – Identity Politics(TM) is the single thing that keeps America divided.
And guess who invented Identity Politics(TM)?
You got it, the Liberal Elite of America(TM).
Simon says
The LGBT agenda is totally at odds with Islamic doctrine and is supposedly condemned by Allah in the Koran (that is, if you believe the Koran is the word of God which I personally don’t) and by Muhammad himself in the Hadiths. Just look at the mess in the education system in Britain where a progressive gay principal in a primary school has tried to promote gay literature to educate children in ‘diversity and tolerance’ in a predominantly Muslim area in the city of Birmingham. The local Muslim community has been up in arms over what they consider is the promotion of perversion and sin to their kids. In Islamic countries (that is where the laws are based on Sharia and not secular law), homosexuality is illegal, punishable by death. I’m still waiting for the LGBT movement to announce the inaugural gay pride marches in Riyadh and Tehran – should be a real eye opener and will show just how these tolerant countries celebrate the LGBT message of love and acceptance.
mortimer says
‘Moderate’ Islam? Or is it wishful thinking and ‘WATERED-DOWN’ Islam.
Sharia law condemns watered-down, secularized, COMPROMISED Islam … self-styled Islam.
SUBSTITUTING ALLAH’S ETERNAL LAWS WITH COMPROMISED HALF-ISLAMIC AND HALF-HUMAN LAWS
“10. Kufrul-Istibdaal: Disbelief because of trying to substitute Allaah’s Laws. This could take the form of:
(a) Rejection of Allaah’s law (Sharee’ah) without denying it
(b) Denial of Allaah’s law and therefore rejecting it, or
(c) Substituting Allaah’s laws with man-made laws. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Or have they partners with Allaah who have instituted for them a religion which Allaah has not allowed. [Soorah Shuraa(42), Ayah 8] Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely (that) is lawful and this is forbidden so as to invent a lie against Allaah. Verily, those who invent a lie against Allaah will never prosper. [Soorah Nahl (16), Ayah 116]
Sylvia Drummond says
There is no such thing as a moderate muslim, on what factors are they moderate? They might hide their fanaticism in a western society where they benefit greatly from their employment but they are brainwashed from birth into their tribal practices and twisted beliefs which are intensified when living in a western society. One could almost pity them living as they do in a permenent state of hatred.
Ron Sanders says
The Muslims and the LGBTQWERTY will accept each other until the Muslims become the majority and accepted by people. It is then that they will fall back and murder the LGBTQWERTY in the mane of Allah. Don’t be duped into believing everything is rosy between them!
James Lincoln says
Likely so, Ron…
gravenimage says
Muslims and LGBT: Intersectional Allies?
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Actually, Muslims hate and murder gay people. Too bad so few gay people recognize this.