“We expect Swedish authorities as well as all countries with cases of racism and Islamophobia to take all measures to fight against this disease both in the framework of European institutions and at the national level.”
That means that the Turkish Foreign Ministry expects Sweden and other Western countries to give up the “freedom of press, art, and expression,” and to adopt Sharia blasphemy restrictions on criticism and mockery of Islam. Many Western authorities have voluntarily adopted these restrictions already, with those who are standing for the freedom of speech vilified as “far-right” and “racist.” So it is understandable that the Turks would be pressing on toward final victory.
“Turkey condemns ‘disrespect’ against Quran in Sweden,” by Sena Guler, Anadolu Agency, September 10, 2020:
ANKARA Turkey denounced an Islamophobic attack in Sweden on Thursday in which protesters burned a copy of the holy Quran, characterizing it as a “disrespect”.
“We condemn the disrespect by a group of racist barbarians by burning our holy book, the Quran, in Stockholm, the capital of Sweden,” the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
It a positive step that Sweden did not allow those applying for a protest permit to attain one, the ministry said, but it stressed that Turkey regrets the provocative actions of members of a Danish racist party could not be prevented, even though their aims were well-known.
“And these sick people continue to benefit from it,” it said….
“Unfortunately, it is seen that disrespect for Islam has become widespread and cannot be prevented in Scandinavian countries in recent years under the guise of freedom of press, art, and expression,” the ministry said….
“We expect Swedish authorities as well as all countries with cases of racism and Islamophobia to take all measures to fight against this disease both in the framework of European institutions and at the national level,” it urged.
Ali Erbas, the head of Turkey’s Religious Affairs Directorate, also weighed in on Twitter. “I strongly condemn the unrelenting and provocative attack on our almighty book of the holy Quran by anti-Islamist racist groups in Stockholm, the capital of Sweden,” he said.
Erbas said it is concerning that groups continue attacks against Muslims in different European cities.
“I expect the activities of these sick-minded structures that threaten all humanity to be ended as soon as possible, and I invite the international community to a conscious fight against these structures,” he said.
Ray Jarman says
If I were the were the Swedish head of government I would tell Ali Erbas that he does not like to watch the burning of the unholy piece of crap called the Qur’an, simply do not watch. It is just that simple and while he is at it, remove all of the filthy scum that has found its way into Sweden, Denmark and the rest of Europe.
elee says
+1 & WELL SAID.
The Istanbulian says
More than that, demand the Greeks receive the Hagia Sophia and all other mosqued churches.
GreekEmpress says
???
Dorothy Davies says
Yes. who is Erdogan to complain of disrespect? The more Muslims disrespect other countries and their religions, the more Islam will be disrespected.
golem3 says
+1
DavidR says
Allah orders them to mind other people’s business and get even, on his behalf, when slighted. He’s a thin skinned god who does more harm than good and routinely allows his fans to prove how awful he truly is.
maria says
You are quite rigth. Unfortunately Swedish PM is a pro islam and let the people who are real Swedes to be persecuted, the girls and boys raped and tortured and he even sent a group of far leftists to attack a Jewish writer in his home and take all of his books and destroy them. Sweden must have a NEW government and a new PM
Gork says
If I were the Swedes, I’d tell Erdogan to apologize as a nation for the Armenian Genocide. Only THEN can we discuss the burning of the rantings of a Pedophile Warlord.
Deanne says
FACT…
All cultures are NOT equal and anyone who respects a culture who bases their entire ideology & laws on “HONOR KILLINGS”(killing their own children for shaming their family), stoning women to death, 8 yo. child brides, rape, marital rape, molestation, pedophilia and torture is to say that you respect the atrocities that it perpetrates. They can call themselves, al qaeda, boko haram, isis,devout, moderates, etc., THEY are even told to lieas they kill and destroy humanity & the COMMON DENOMINATOR is ALWAYS SHARIA which violates our Constitution, breaks every single LAW in America and should not be on American soil.All cultures CANNOT COEXIST & that’s why every nation has borders & laws. REENACT the NATIONALITY & IMMIGRATION ACT of 1952…
What defines a religion from a cult is what happens when you try to leave either one:#ExposeSharia
PS- there are NO “lone wolves” or “copycats” when it comes to the SHARIA IDEOLOGY
#WorldwideCrusaders
https://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/sharia-law.html
Ray Jarman says
+1 Cannot find any argument.
gravenimage says
+1
maria says
quite right
Dorothy Davies says
+1
elee says
Hey Ali Erbas I’ll burn any DAMNED book I want, got that?
gravenimage says
Here’s more on Ali Erbas:
“President of Religious Affairs Ali Erbaş: The West’s record on freedom of belief and worship is poor”
https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2018/05/28/president-of-religious-affairs-ali-erbas-the-wests-record-on-freedom-of-belief-and-worship-is-poor
He claims that the West’s record on freedom of religion is poor because we allow criticism of religion–freedom of speech–and do no enforce Shari’ah blasphemy laws.
He even laughably claims that the US moving her Embassy to Jerusalem in Israel is–somehow–preventing Muslims around the world from worshipping.
Her also claims that anyone concerned about Islam “either don’t know Islam or have wrong information about the religion”. Nothing but Taqiyya.
He claims that Qur’an 2:208 calls for Muslims to live in peace with non-Muslims, but this is quite false. In fact, the following verses tell Muslims to hate Infidels and to wage violent Jihad against them.
Rufolino says
But it’s already a fait accomplis.
Islam has already convinced the West that it is, e.g. “deeply offensive” to criticise the Koran, let alone burn it.
This political correctness has become an accepted truth. Just ask anyone in the street in a Western city. We are not allowed to “cause offence”, because offence is now completely unacceptable. End of story.
You have got to give Islam credit where credit is due. Moslems are brilliant manipulators.
gravenimage says
It is mostly that too many in the West are willing to act the dhimmi.
revereridesagain says
Tell the Irked Turks that if they want to “fight a disease” they should quarantine themselves to prevent the spread of the FluManchu. It would be nice to see them do something useful for a change. Disappear, I mean. Sweden apparently ceased to have any serious problem with the WuFlu months ago. The Muslims, alas, keep “resurging”.
Jaydam says
Turkey’s Hitler is getting more and more brazen, by threatening a fellow NATO country,
and no response from NATO. ( No Surprise There Then ).
Likewise with the EU. When Yugoslavia erupted into regional civil wars over 25 years ago, the EU was running round like headless chicken. They have shown time and time again, they are not fit to manage a piss up in a brewery. Yet they are so keen to flood European countries with illiterate 3rd world migrants, including bronze aged Muslim’s.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Here’s a headline from Brietbart today concerning about this very issue:
Swedish Police Hunt for Danes Who Burned Qur’an in No-Go Zone
The response by the Swedish government over this non-crime demonstration of burning some islamic scribblings is no better than the barbaric sharia response we see in Turkey or any other islamic sh*t hole. This is what islam has done to the west, it has elevated simple acts of free expression to revolutionary acts for which we are “hunted,” persecuted, or murdered. This is what the left wanted all along, to muzzle our moral mouths and to harness the brutality of islam to control us like mindless robots. The question is no longer “Could sharia happen here?” instead it’s, “How can we turn this around and save our liberties from total destruction?”
We in the west are like the proverbial frog in a boiling pot of water. Incrementally, day by day, our rights and liberties as free people are getting gobbled for muslim bigotry and intolerance. Hardly a day goes by where we don’t hear stories of some westerner paying a dear price for speaking facts or opinions about islam. We’re fired or forced to resign our jobs, boycotted, threatened with violence, jailed, fined, murdered or forced into hiding. Our loss of freedom can seem almost imperceptible if we don’t keep aware of islam’s insidious effects on society. That’s why we must heed the warning signs, or like that frog we will boil away until death. Or to put it more literally, they will cut our heads and enslave us for allah.
Here’s some headlines from reputable sources regarding islam’s attack on free expression:
Local artist remains in hiding after Islamic cartoon controversy (About Molly Norris who had to go into hiding for a cartoon she created of “prophet” Muhammad)~KomoNews
Teacher in Hiding After Attack on Islam Stirs Threats (About a French teacher whose newspaper commentary required police protection in hiding after receiving death threats)~NYTimes
Woman who defied Islam forced to flee (About Ayaan Hirsi Ali who was “forced to flee her adopted country under threat of death.”)~The Guardian
Muslim ‘blogger’ threatens to murder ex-Muslim’s pet dog and slaughter him and his family live on TV for ‘criticizing Islam’ (This happened in the UK) ~OpIndia online
French girl, 16, forced into hiding when anti-Islam comments online spark death threats and leak of school and address (She couldn’t have said anything worse than what I or many of the other JW posters in here have said, she’s a teenager and doesn’t deserve such treatment–nobody does) ~The U.S. Sun
Breitbart Editor Fired for Anti-Muslim Tweets After London Attack (For saying, “If there were no Muslims in London, there would be no Muslim terror attacks, period,” which is basically just speaking the truth.)~Newsweek
Of course there’s so many more examples to mention; like the persecution and attacks against Tommy Robinson in the UK, the murder of Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh for his film Submission:part 1, the ban against Robert Spencer and Pamella Geller from speaking in Britain and the attempts on their lives, the Charlie Hebdo attack, the Salman Rushdie affair, and blunt-speaking critic of islam Katie Hopkins who was fired and sued… these are all attacks by muslims or their leftist supporters against our right to freely express. And that’s what I found with 5 minutes of digging, there’s probably hundreds more on record and thousands more we’ll never hear about.
We can no longer keep our heads in the sand about islam. JW fans already know the dangers, that’s why we support Spencer and his fellow contributors, all who are freedom loving people and patriots to their nation. But if you are one of those still on the fence about islam then let me point out an obvious fact, islam is an aggressive ideology that is exploited by an aggressive people. They are attacking us, killing us, threatening us, infiltrating our politics, schools, and government. They are robbing our freedoms and diluting western culture for their own totalitarian ideology and short-bus culture. You know that’s wrong, and it’s time you join us in our own defense. Thank you in advance for any little thing you do to help us.
(Wow, my posts are getting way too long. Why don’t I just write a book, lol)
GreekEmpress says
Long, but awesome!!!!!!!!!!???
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
I’ve heard that so many times before, wink wink 🙂
James Lincoln says
+10
Dorothy Davies says
Many thanks for your post. So many in the West seem to be fast asleep. I pray for them to wake up.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Agostino.
Martin says
SEPTEMBER 11 2020 – SWEDEN –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN_n9pCXtSo
Martin says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVXtZNBkRn0
Martin says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEawqtV6UnQ
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
This is the only langauge most muslims understand, reasoned argument or humanitarian appeals don’t seem to influence them one tiny bit. They value that morally deranged book more than good human relations, freedom, and our lives. They remind me of a pinball machine I play on Steam called “Gorgar” from the 70’s that speaks 2 phrases, “Me got you,” and “Me hurt.” That pretty much sums up their 2 levels of understanding about all this, either they “got us” for allah or they’re “hurt” victims we’re supposed to feel sorry for. Their fake religion has turned many of them into dumb animals for a demon and a robber-murderer-torturer called muhammad. If I drew a picture of a bearded man right now and called him “Joe” then muslims wouldn’t bat an eye. But if I cross “Joe” out an write “muhammad” then I’m worthy of the worst kind of punishment, up to and including death. Please tell me, is that not just the battiest shit you’ve ever heard in your life? They riot over a harmless cartoon, but FGM, honor killings, and killing gays, apostates and infidels, ain’t so bad. This is what’s blossoming in our nation(s) with islam, this is the mental derangement they have imported into our psyche and nations. But thanks to the left I’m a vile racist bigot for speaking against this barbarity for religion. Makes me wonder if humanity has made any moral progress at all in the last 500 years.
Wellington says
Just like Muslims to be infinitely more irked by the burning of a book than the humiliation or even killing of human beings because they are not “members” of the ideology that produced the damn book in the first place which is being burnt and which damn book calls for the subduing of all those who don’t acknowledge the superiority of Islam, to be found in Sura 9:29, and which awful book actually sanctions death for apostasy (Sura 4:89), the rape of non-believing females (to be found in Suras 4, 23, 33 and 70) and per some 109 verses calls upon its deluded believers to wage war across the earth “until all religion is with Allah” (Sura 8:39).
As usual, Islamic ethics are appalling ethics. Valuing a book over freedom and even human life is demonstrative of just how warped Islamic ethics are. They are the ethics of the barbarian and the control freak who cannot tolerate disagreement whatsoever—and made, sadly, all the more effective because Islam hides behind a religious veil.
Note to ALL Muslims: Human life is far, far more important than the effing Koran. Get this. Learn this. And know full well that with each passing year more and more non-Muslims, and a lot of Muslims too, are comprehending just what a drag Islam truly is to the human species—the turd in the punch bowl of world religions, as I have been very much inclined to call Islam.
And thus to hell with the Koran. I have no more respect for it than I do for Mein Kampf or Das Kapital. Indeed, what a malevolent trinity of tomes these three egregious texts make. So fitting to put these three in a “special” trinity all their own. After all, all represent in written form an eternal hostility to liberty, to tolerance and to a true Golden Rule for all. Oh yeah, get this ALL Muslims out there. ALL OF YOU.
Ray Jarman says
+1 Wellington, how do you really feel about the religion of horrors?
Wellington says
I don’t really know yet, Ray. Still making up my mind. Will get back to you as soon as I can.
James Lincoln says
Ray, I have a sneaking suspicion that Wellington is not a big fan of islam, nazi-ism, or marxism…
Wellington says
Shrewd observation, James. Who could doubt it?
E T says
Wellington, I dedicate this song to you. Tina Turner singing “You’re Simply the Best”. Keep on the sunny side bro.
Westman says
Erbas and his not so “almighty book”. It and many others burned and Allah does nothing. Could there be more proof that Erbas is most concerned for the Quran’s ability to give the clerics power over the believers – to do their bidding. If this burning keeps happening and Allah never responds, then the link to Allah is weakened and the Quran appears, man-made. These desecrations of the Quran put fear in clerics and Islam-using politicians that their gravy-train is in jepardy.
Islam is at war with the 21st Century and has no hope of winning. Watching Erdogan and his henchmen destroy Turkey’s economy and the future of its citizens with an attempt to restore some crippled, “Ottoman Empire”, will be ample evidence that Islam has passed its prime and is unfit for the 21st Century.
Michael Copeland says
“racist” groups, Ali Erbas?
“Islam is not a race. It is an ideology.” – Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR.
Mount Zion says
I expect muslim countries with cases of christianophobia and jewophobia to fight against this desease , in Nigeeia there is currently a christian genocide taking place with no comment or mention by international media , in the North African countries from Marocco to Egypt Christian and jews have been forced out with little or no compensation of their properties and businesses , in Pakistan christians who refuse to convert are beeing charged with blasphemy and given the death penalty . Blasphemy charges by muslims are also brought up to settel feuds or disagreements with their christian neighbours . Minor christian girls in India have been abducted , raped and forcefully converted to Islam , after a court sentence the abductor of one of these minor christian girls was sentenced to marry her while her mother who was sitting in the court room broke down with a heart attack . These are real issues , these are serious human rights violations , what is compared to that a Koran burning . We westerner condemn the disrespect by muslim migrants coming into our country and trying to implement Shariah law which has no place in a free society.Ali Erbas said :”It is concerning that groups continue attacks against muslims in different european cities” .Oh but it’s the other way around , it’s not muslims that have been targeted by vehicular jihad ,it’s westerners . It’s not muslim women that have been targeted by muslim rape gangs it’s western women .It’s not muslims that have been targeted by nogo zones they can move freely around , it’s westerner who can’t move freely in their own coyntry in hundreds of nogo zones created by muslims . The list of muslim misdeeds could go on and on but let’s just leave it at that and say that in the light of all these facts there is absolutely no reason to take action against the burning of the unholy Koran whereas there is every reason to stop completely the hijrah and deport all delinquents without a second thought.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Yes, you summed the situation very well with that. All this fuss over a damn book, where’s all the fuss over murdered and persecuted religious minorities in the M.E and around the world? The leftist politicians and mainstream media are so in denial about islam, they aren’t the least bit encumbered by the grotesque immorality and injustice of their own actions for islam. They encourage muslim crimes at home and abroad with their complicity and appeasement for that sick ideology. Is not the life of one child worth more than 10,000 burned korans? Is not the life of one persecuted Jew or Christian worth more than a cartoon controversy? Apparently not, not if you ask your average journalist or leftist politician. Muslims can do no wrong in their eyes. We, however, are evil xenophobic racist bigot islamophobes who deserve the worst kind of treatment for our frank speaking truths about a violent ideology. We are all “Winstons” from “1984” for daring to buck the system that wants to control us like robots for islam. Here we are in the attached video clip, and the rats that want to eat our brains are the leftists and muslims who want to crush our freedoms and security for islam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmAVyowgDVE
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Obrien says to Winston, “You will do what is required of you.”
Yes, we only need do what is required of us, friends. That is, ignore the humanitarian crimes of islam and hate your own conservative or “racist” white self. Don’t question islam, even though the violence in islamic doctrines begs the question; don’t feel outraged, even though the violence muslims do for that religion is a genocidal and mortal threat to our freedoms and nation(s). Stop being a troublemaker! and do what is required of you! you racist bigot islamophobe. You know you can’t win, anyway. You’re just an extreme minority of racist right-wing nuts who hate others for their skin color and kinky hair. That seems to be the left’s view and public pronouncement of our humanity. But we know better. We are the patriots who love our nation. We are the moral ones who reject the immorality of islam and all its ill-effects. We are the ones who won’t tolerate muslims’ intolerance and the bigoted doctrines that compel them to murder and terrorize our existence. There will come a time when their outrageous lies about us will cause the heavens to fall, and it will crush them into the ground.
Michael Copeland says
This is Caliph Uthman Re-Enactment.
Caliph Uthman gathered together the manuscripts of the Koran, all variants, issued a definitive version, and burnt the variants.
The definitive version did not manage to remain definitive. There are today some 37 different Korans in print. They are all variants, so eligible for Uthman treatment.
Crusades Were Right says
Suggested response from the Swedish government to the Turkish government: “Can you tell us how many Armenian, Greek and Assyrian Christians were living under Turkish government at the start of the 20th century? And can you tell us how many are living under Turkish government today?”
j c a reid says
Fight the disease……… burn more Qurans. Obviously these complaining Turks haven’t read it.
Boycott Turkey says
They complain about toasted Koran while they turn ancient Byzantium Churches to mosque or destroy churches they are total hypocrites burning books is nothing compared to there crimes of genocide and persecution of Christians and stealing Churches which is why there Koran is burnt as it’s a crime Manuel
Mafya says
Ali Erbas ! You are sitting on ass in your luxury home while your terror government murders Kurds ! Have you said anything about it you vile, son of a mutah !? Don’t trust your owner evil, bloody-handed Erdogan ! We will be coming for you ! We are eager to make every city in Turkey look like hellfire !
SAFI says
With Erdolf’s obsession of presenting himself as the Big Daddy of the entire muslim Ummah and Turkey as the unofficial de facto “caliphate” which has the right and duty to protect Islam’s honor from all insults everywhere we better get used to these king of furious statements from the turkish Foreign Ministry everytime someone says or does something “islamophobic” anywhere in the world. The only thing we can do about it is start mass burnings of Qurans all around the world so that the turkish FM’s furious statement machine get jammed with islamophobe traffic…
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
The only thing we can do about it is start mass burnings of Qurans all around the world
Yeah, I’m for that, burn their “Mein Kampf” and show them what we think of their “religion of peace” that has provoked the murder and suffering of millions.
I would compare the current situation with islam as a worldwide intervention, similiar to what you might do for a drug addict in desperate need of sobriety. Islam has moved west and forced the world’s better half to confront allah’s “addicts” with truths they don’t want to hear. And like the drug addict who feels the pain of being cornered with the painful truth, they are working extra hard to maintain that facade of victimhood and righteous indignation over the truths we speak about islam–and so are the leftists who help them. They look soberly into the camera and unabashedly proclaim that it is the “islamophobes” who are totally to blame, while muslims’ 14 centuries of jihad murder and terror bear no significance on the matter. Not one iota is ever spoken of muslims’ long and bloody history for allah, it is solely because we “islamophobes” are phobic in our fears and that our reasoned arguments are really just racism in disguise. But we’ve reached the point where their lies can no longer sustain the charade of moral superiority and perfect innocence. Muslims and leftists have employed the same method Hitler’s propagandists did, that is, tell a lie so colossal that no one would believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.” But that is a propaganda technique that is doomed to fail at some point in the experience. People are beginning to wake up the immense evils of islamic doctrines and the role they play in our current conflict with the muslims who live it. The sun is setting on their long day of denial and obfuscation of the truth. Now it is our turn, the sun is rising on our new dawn for truth against islam. And like the Good Book says, the “truth will set you free.”
Boycott Turkey says
Good idea have mass burning of korans and Turkish flags and effigy of Muhammad and draw cartoons And post cartoons of Muhammad to the Turkish embassy and Pakistani Embassy infact maybe post the cartoons by airmail to imran Khan and Erdogan
SAFI says
Hope the moderators won’t mind if I post some excerpts from an Economist article published a couple days ago
“Turkey’s strongman, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, takes to the world stage
He is posing as the voice of Muslims everywhere and of the global south
[…]For Turkey’s leader, however, it is simply an “example of modern colonialism” by European countries, as he put it in a speech on September 1st. “The era of those who for centuries have left no region unexploited from Africa to South America, no community unmassacred and no human being unoppressed, is coming to an end,” he added.
Mr Erdogan has long fulminated against the West to stir up patriotic support at home. Now, he is increasingly addressing a global audience, too. Having failed to reshape the Middle East in the wake of the Arab spring, Mr Erdogan is looking elsewhere for greatness. He is trying to reinvent himself as the voice of the umma (ie, Muslims everywhere) and also of the world’s poor.
[…]
A big part of the new outreach is Turkey’s worldwide campaign against Islamophobia, for which Mr Erdogan’s government has mobilised foreign missions, aid agencies, lobby groups and friendly academics. Turkish consulates have been asked to encourage Muslims to report to them any instances of prejudice or abuse. (Turkey pays rather less attention to abuses in China, where perhaps a million Muslim Uighurs have been locked up in camps and many have been sterilised.)
Prejudice against Muslims is a serious problem in Europe. (comment: BULLSHIT but let’s move on) But critics suspect Mr Erdogan’s campaign is also intended to provoke resentment of Western governments and legitimise his own foreign-policy aims. Others fear the implications for free speech. “Islamophobia”, says Samim Akgonul, an academic at Strasbourg University, “is being used by Turkey as a shield to ban and avoid all critical discourse on Islam in the academic world and the media.” (emphasis added by me)
Turkey is also courting Muslims and black people in America. […]
[…] None of this has dimmed Mr Erdogan’s global ambitions. Turkey’s president appears genuinely to view himself not only as the voice of all Muslims but of the whole global south. His re-election in 2018, he said, was a victory for “all the aggrieved people in our region, all the oppressed in the world”.[…] Mr Erdogan has backed Nicolás Maduro’s repressive regime in Venezuela, a relationship lubricated by hundreds of millions of dollars in gold trade, and former president Omar al-Bashir’s genocidal one in Sudan. Last month he congratulated Alexander Lukashenko, the Belarusian dictator, on his “victory” in rigged presidential elections.
The charm offensive has had some success. […] Some 75% of Palestinians and roughly the same share of Jordanians approve of his policies, according to a poll published last year. His popularity in Pakistan is such that the country’s prime minister, Imran Khan, joked earlier this year that Mr Erdogan could safely win in his country’s coming elections. Anecdotal evidence, says Mr Akgonul, suggests he may also be the most popular Muslim politician among young Arabs in Europe.
Turkey’s leader and his acolytes seem to be convinced that the old world order is crumbling, and are looking for a role in the new one. His embrace of the global periphery is riven with contradictions and hypocrisy, making it more hype than substance. But it is here to stay “
Joscefi says
I wonder how many korans I would have to incinerate to make up for the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas…
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
I wonder how many korans I would have to incinerate to make up for the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas…
Yes, that is a good question worth pondering. But let me suggest another one, how many incinerated korans are required to “make up” for the countless men, women, and children, tortured and killed for the evils that book contains? Well the obvious answer is that no number of burned korans can ever make up for that. But by burning that book we reaffirm our disagreement and contempt with what it says, it’s a kind of peaceful and moral protest against an immoral and ignorant creed that threatens us. A public burning calls attention to the evils it contains and will hopefully wake the world up to the dangers of islam. It get’s headlines, people notice. No demon book of stupidity is going to rob us of our right to freely express in our art and literature, or our metaphysical views on god, religion, and the universe–THAT’S THE MESSAGE. They tell us we can’t disagree with islam without risking bad consequences, perhaps even death. A good response to that threat is to burn the book they threaten us for, I say. We should not feel obligated to forsake our sacred rights for their demon mentality. It’s up to the retarded muslims to look at our better example and join us in our quest for equality without religious compulsion of any kind. That’s the only kind of world that works for everyone. Anything less than that is just tyrannical slavery for any religion that happens to be in power, which in this case invariably means islam.
golem3 says
All of them
gravenimage says
Turks irked at Qur’an-burning in Sweden: ‘We expect Swedish authorities to take all measures to fight this disease’
……………………
In other words, Turkey wants Sweden to enforce oppressive Shari’ah law. Sweden should tell them to take a hike.
James Lincoln says
gravenimage,
So the Turkish Foreign Ministry prefers imposing the disease of shari’ah law over the “disease” of burning the qur’an.
abad says
Sweden shoould just round up and deport all Moslems in the country then demolish all Islamic centers and mosques. Problem solved.
James Lincoln says
abad,
In order for Sweden to conduct an operation even remotely similar to what you have suggested would require a leader like Hungary’s Viktor Orbán.
He would immediately deport all muslims who could be legally deported and close all mosques that could be legally closed. The few that remained open would be under very close surveillance.
The problem is, Sweden does not have that kind of leadership – and its citizens are paying a heavy price…
Demsci says
Quran burning is good. Discrediting Quran May be even better. Which is done by jay smith, pfander films, David Wood, Many ex-muslims, like Apostate Prophet, Abdullah Sameer, Islam Critiqued. I was thinking that I/ we are no racists and so not against citizens of Islamic Nations immigrating for their race, only for their Islamic mentality.
Since it seems impossible now to stem immigration from Islamic Nations, since these seem among the most wretched nations of the world, in big part, another goal seems more warranted; let us try to convert as many Muslims as we can into ex-Muslims. This is also a matter of life and death for current ex- muslims as they want to prevent Islamization of Democratic nations, which would threathen their own life and freedom, because of the deathpenalty for apostasy and Islamic blasphemy laws.
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer has done good work here too, Demsci.
Demsci says
Absolutely, Gravenimage. I read his book ‘did Mohammed exist” over and over again, even in the subway and train, for people to see it.
gravenimage says
Good stuff.
Christopher Watson says
I strongly recommend that he takes all Turks from our western countries and shoves them up his Islamic arse.
Verk says
Exactly! Well said.
OLD GUY says
Islam and its followers are so concerned about their precious Quran, and want the world to bow its head to it. On the other side the Muslim world shows no respect or even allow the Christian Holy Bible in places like Saudi Arabia. They have no problem burning down Christian and Jewish places of worship around the world, along with the mass murders of the christian and jewish people.
Burning the Quran should be on top of the list of books that should be destroyed by the Jewish and Christians of the world, but we are tolerant of other religions and for the most part don’t do it.
Unfortunately MUSLIM’s don’t show the same respect to us.
The only thing that will change the islamic goal of domination of the world is to kick their butts back to the Stone Age. Thats the only thing they understand.
Walter Sieruk says
A better ,as in a more intelligent and sophisticated way deal with Quran than to burn it is to expose the many errors and contradictions this religious book contains.
This has already been done on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Quran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Quran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Quran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Quran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Quran. Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Quran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.”
Futhermore, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses.
For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.” In conclusion, the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.
Even though the above essay was posted before, it should now be added that the last statement of the above that “the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.” To put this in a Biblical way. As in from the Bible, it may be truly explained that the Quran is a deceptive work of “the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.” Ephesians 14:12.. [N.I.V.]