Here yet again we see that anytime a Muslim organization runs afoul of the law for any reason, opportunistic supremacists such as Erdogan will portray this as a manifestation of “Islamophobia,” defined as the unfair targeting of innocent Muslims, which is so rare in real life that incidents of it have to be manufactured.
Erdogan is, meanwhile, on extremely thin rhetorical ice when he says that this raid brings Europe closer to the Middle Ages. Throughout the Middle Ages, Muslims were waging bloody jihad against Europe. Erdogan would prefer you did not remember that. Also recall the precarious position of Christians in Turkey, and the recent conversion of the historic Hagia Sophia and Chora churches to mosques.
“Police raid on Berlin mosque brings ‘Europe closer to Middle Ages’– Erdogan,” TRT World, October 24, 2020 (thanks to Mason):
The German police raided Mevlana Mosque in Berlin on Wednesday over what it said was a financial investigation. The mosque rejected the allegation.
Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has denounced a German police raid earlier this week on a mosque in Berlin.
“I strongly condemn the police raid on Mevlana Mosque in Berlin during the morning prayers,” Erdogan said on Twitter, adding the police action was “obviously nourished by racism and Islamophobia, totally flouting freedom of belief, and bringing Europe closer to the darkness of the Middle Ages.”
“Europe, which for years has been referred to as the cradle of democracy, human rights, and freedoms, has today unfortunately turned into a structure that fights its differences,” Erdogan said.
Erdogan stressed that Turkey would never allow any excuse for vulgar violations of any place of worship.
Turkey will decisively continue its global fight against racism, xenophobia and Islamophobia, he added….
Keys says
“Erdogan stressed that Turkey would never allow any excuse for vulgar violations of any place of worship.”
Like the the Hagia Sophia, for example ?
Patrick White says
Perfect response!
Rufolino says
Moslems never stop whining about “injustice”. It’s a contant. Whilst Islam’s murderous ideology perpetrates injustice against innocent people on a massive scale.
Ade Fegan says
A deplorably scumbag playing the islamophobia card to the max and in the most blatantly transparent way … sadly still not blatant or transparent enough for our friends on the left to see through it thought
DavidR says
The logic goes like this; Allah owns everything, Allah is a Muslim therefore Muslims own everything.
But Erdogan is at the top of the pack when it comes to projection.
mortimer says
DavidR has it. This is a prime example of PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION: the attribution of one’s own negative attitudes and conduct to ‘the other’.
PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION is a core attitude in Islam.
gravenimage says
+1
gravenimage says
Spot on, Keys.
Lesley Ward says
Or the many churches that Erdogan’s Govt has taken over their property and closed down the churches throughout Turkey, this ambitious slug sees himself as the next Caliphe of the Islamic world and restoring the Ottoman empire with him as the next Sultan.
BIGGEST HYPOCRITE IN THE WORLD and very dangerous!
markey2020 says
The next logical response will be for all western countries and others to recognize Armenian genocide and for Armenians to demand reparations for it.
I guarantee This will give him a stroke.
toomanyhobbies says
my issue is the CULT of islam treats today’s world as though it was still 750 AD and they are proud of it….
Ade Fegan says
SHUT UP erdogan
John Hawk says
This guy reminds me of Hitler, ranting and spraying spittle all over the place. Islam and Nazism were birds of a feather.
Jayell says
And, looking at the picture, it looks like he’s got a small moustache as well. He just needs to learn the salute.
PRCS says
Of course, it’s Islam that is bringing Europe to the middle ages.
gravenimage says
Absolutely, PRCS.
Westman says
And the big mistake was allowing foreign governments to build, finance, and support mosques in Europe. The second severe mistake was allowing multiple citizenship. These two factors, combined with the Quran’s demand to avoid fealty to unbelievers, guaranteed non-integration of Islam into European society.
The New Nations subsidize the living expenses and the foreign governments subsidize Imams and mosques. By retaining citizenship in the old country one can go back and forth, at will, never caring a whit or experiencing a patriotic moment for the New Nation. Global immigration, and its eroding of borders, has offered a banquet to an Islam that is too weak to obtain it by force.
Where is the incentive to integrate? Macron and Merkel are discovering the effect of parallel societies while remaining blind to the causes.
Rob Roy says
If ‘people’ would read more… a mosque is always a territorial claim as well. Easy to explain by the fact islam is not a religion, it is an ideology demanding world power. Splitting the world in the two factions of ‘land of islam’ and ‘land of war’. There is no neutral. There is believer and non believer. No room for just human.
James Lincoln says
Westman says,
An excellent and accurate post, my compliments.
So where does Western Europe go from here?
Is there a way out – short of civil war?
Westman says
Ending the influx of money from foreign sources into the Mosques would be helpful. A requirement to choose a primary citizenship and a reasonable time limit on free government benefits might also lead to more effort towards integration.
It may not be reasonable to expect the first generation of arrivals to master the language and the new culture, yet, it is well within the reach of their offspring. Islamic public-funded schools must not be allowed as a substitute for a nations school system. Religious training should be in the mosque and home at the believers expense.
The majority of Muslim migrants are peaceful citizens and have much the same dreams and aspirations as any other migrant. It is the Apart-heid demands of Islam that stands in their way and promulgates a parallel society. Perhaps the second generation will navigate their way out of that parallel society and into acceptance of the host citizens.
When Muslims in France speak of the, “filthy French”, and Turkey’s Erdogan wants to campaign for votes in a European nation, there is no denying the reality of failing integration.
James Lincoln says
Westman,
Thank you for your reply.
Your recommendations would be a good start…
Roger Woodhouse says
As long as the Wesr tolerates Islam within its borders it risks the loss of its ‘democracy and freedom’.Islam poses the greatest threat to the western world since Adolph Hitler.It must be removed.
Tony Naim says
long live and hail to the Middle Ages if Europe is willing to bring itself together to finish off that radical Islamist savage, occupier of Byzantium, rabid anti Semite and anti Christian.
Koosemo says
Laser beam projection Khaleef!
You know that you and your partners in crime will end up like Hitler.
Fred van de Bunt says
This is a Turkish mosque, that, like most Turkish mosques in Germany and Holland are run through their directorate in Turkey, and police searched it, because of a suspected fraud around German COVID assistance subsidies.
In the Netherlands Turks also do not have to follow the obligatory Dutch classes for foreigners that come from outside the EU. They can not only run their mosques from Ankara, but also keep speaking the language from Ankara. Dutch government provides Turks and also Arabs with information in their languages, apart from Dutch and English.
Turks born in the Netherlands, and Germany will not lose their Turkish nationality, since most Muslim nations do not allow that. That means the Turks have to fulfil their military duty in Turkey, since conscription in Holland and Germany does not exist anymore, since these countries have only armies of professionals.
To summarize, It means a Turk living in Holland or Germany does not have to speak Dutch or German, can go to his Turkish run mosque, while he also fulfils his military duty in Turkey. And the apotheosis: if a Turk goes criminal and runs to Turkey, Turkey does not extradite him, because Turkish law forbids to extradite Turks. This is all European law, created in Brussels, outside the reach of voters.
One might conclude, that EU laws are wilful instruments to create parallel societies within EU nations. Why? Because the EU wants to demolish the old nations, to absorb them in a federal EU power and these parallel societies are very helpful, since they demolish the old nations from within.
Michael Copeland says
A very valid point indeed, “the EU wants to demolish the old nations”.
The late bullying and tainted Peter Sutherland, UN Special Representative for International Migration, and instigator of the misleadingly-named Global Forum on Migration and Development, let the EU cat out of the bag:
“We still nurse a sense of our homogeneity and difference from others, and that’s precisely what the European Union, in my view, should be doing its best to undermine.”
https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/11/eu-nation-breaking/
Giacomo Latta says
What a recipe for disaster!
curious george says
A great day for America!
Amy Coney Barrett has been confirmed by the Senate to the Supreme Court of the United States of America.
52-48
Martin says
EUROPRAVDA – Europe’s Muslims being treated like Jews before WWII, says Erdogan
Turkey’s president calls for a boycott of French products in a growing row over Emmanuel Macron’s remarks about Islam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU-3fdEFX6I
Brando says
Erdogan refers to the MIDDLE AGES but there were good aspects there,like THOMAS AQUINAS(13th century). He is the Most Important Christian Philosopher of the Middle Ages and practically the Official Philosopher of the Catholic Church.
KILLING HERETICS
Before the 13th century heretics in Catholic Europe were EXCOMMUNICATED,not killed : one example is ABELARD,excommunicated by the POPE Himself in 1141.
Abelard was maybe the Most Brilliant Philosopher in Europe in the 12th century.
Then in the 13th century because of the ALBIGENSIANS in France, the church Crossed the Line and said it was allowed to kill heretics.
CASE BY CASE
NOT all Catholic countries had an Inquisition in the 13th century,some Never Had One: like Scandinavia and Ireland,and Great Britain before they became Protestant.
Other countries had it LATE: Portugal had its first Inquisition in the 16th century,etc.
THE CASE OF POLAND
Though very Catholic Poland was Very Tolerant: in the 16th century there was freedom of religion for:
1.JEWS (they had Legal Self-Government,Official AUTONOMY )
2.CATHOLICS
3.EASTERN ORTHODOX
and yes:PROTESTANTS
EVEN MORE
Freedom of worship for 2 surprising churches: the ARIANS ( Jesus was NOT God,but he was divine) and the UNITARIANS ( the TRINITY is FALSE).
THE IDEAS OF THOMAS AQUINAS
He was in favor of Killing Heretics,that was his only flaw BUT:
1.He CONDEMNED the institution of SLAVERY
Aquinas did not believe slavery was justified by natural law, since he thought that all men are equal by nature.
2.And the RIGHT to TYRANNICIDE
If a ruler of a country oppresses the people with great cruelty,it is allowed to kill the ruler.
POPE PIUS 12th used this idea of Thomas Aquinas to justify killing a man,in this case, trying to kill Hitler( he participated in 3 ATTEMPTS to overthrow Hitler,even involving assasination ).
It is in the book”Church of Spies: The Pope’s Secret War Against Hitler “(2016) by MARK RIEBLING
Boycott Turkey says
shut up Turdogan you filthy trash you raided Agia Sophia and destroyed more Churches world is waking up to your hypocrisy God willing you and NAZIbaijan army are wiped out in Artkash you filthy Turk Islamic Nazis massacred millions of Christians and now your crying islamophobia vile disgusting hypocrite you make me sick
Mafya says
+1
Armenians, Christians and other minorities are living with fear in Turkey. There were hatred against them but its increased especially after Nazibaijan’s aggression against Armenia. But Hitlerdogan still shamelessly claims “Europe mistreats its Muslim population”, while he said this back in 2019 “We will be harsh against the kuffar”. Such a hypocrite and vile person of course does not deserve any mercy when it comes to his fall (both literally and figuratively), just like the brave horse that kicked him on the ground had no mercy for him. ?
Sylvia Drummond says
Boycott Turkey – Turdogan the perfect description.. I hope it catches on.
infidel says
This rogue actually means that unless U give Muslims free and full license to do Jehaad on Khafirs and orchestrate mass murder and mayhem without getting persecuted… U are being Islamophobic. This vile piece of garbage does not even have one word of sympathy for the actual victim. And Indian movie Muslim superstar Aamir Khan goes to Turkey and cavorts with this dog and his family.
gravenimage says
Yep.
gravenimage says
Erdogan: Raid on Berlin mosque ‘nourished by racism and Islamophobia,’ brings Europe ‘closer to Middle Ages’
“Europe, which for years has been referred to as the cradle of democracy, human rights, and freedoms, has today unfortunately turned into a structure that fights its differences,” Erdogan said.
………………
“Differences”–that is, Muslims preaching the slaughter of unbelievers.
Prabhakar Shetty says
There is no way of justifying rape, gang rape, looting, arson, murder, mass murder and a well known genocidal agenda. It is not a phobia, it is real and confirmed globally. Erdogan is typical obsessive compulsive liar who must be eliminated asap.
infidel says
Another BRUTAL BRUTAL killing of a Hindu girl in LOVE-JEHAAD for refusing the advances of a mad Jehaadi animal. HE SHOOTS HER DEAD IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. This is the second such murder of a Hindu girl by an obsessed Muslim in recent months.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/faridabad/girl-shot-dead-in-faridabad-accused-arrested/articleshow/78884923.cms
Paul says
Reciprocity
What you do to me I can do to you.
If Christians cannot build new churches nor repair old ones then no new mosques or “islamic centres”.
No repairs to existing ones. And we demand tithing as they demand the jizya.
Sound like a plan to you ?
DefenderOfChristendom1988 says
Well, don’t forget, demolishing already existing mosques(like they do to churches).
As well, as essentially banning Islam(like Angola has so wisely done).
Then we’d be getting somewhere.
Other than that I fully agree with you.
At this point I’m through “turning the other cheek, since those savages don’t seem to understand any other language than brutal violence( e.g.: Vlad The Impaler).
Haveba nice day, cheers!
Ron says
This ranting bigot Erdogan looks more like Adolph Hitler every day. Islamophobia is the IRRATIONAL fear of Islam and its barbarism. There is nothing irrational about fearing such – nor of fighting aginst it tooth and nail until it is driven out of the civilised, tolerant and far superior nations of the west.
DEEPTHROAT says
Can this lunatic PM of Turkey say what he did to Sophia Museum anything different ?? Muslims around the world must realise that their religion runs foul of the law in many parts of the world and if those are unacceptable they should stay away from that part . And why are Islamic countries calling for only boycott of French products, they should call upon Muslims to leave France in protest. Will they ?? Never nevr compared to the wretchedness of the countries they quit and mugrated to France, France is HEAVEN for them
Christopher Watson says
Turkey has been a problem since the 1870s. Britain and France have given them so much leeway and ignored their appalling foreign policy that they were able to murder over 1 million Armenians in 1915. Despite backing Germany in two major wars they escaped major retribution. They even held two missile site for the Americans which Kennedy dismantled in a deal with Kruschev for the removal of the Cuban Missile sites.
But we have allowed them to get away with forcing their policies on European states: allowing dual nationalities, allowing Turks to serve in the Turkish military forces, allowing Turkish-run Mosques to operate in some European countries, paying them millions of Euros to stem Turkish emigration. Unfortunately Europe has allowed it’s military forces to wither away. Whereas we could have stamped on Turkey we would now find it difficult. Greece even has to rely on Hungary for assistance in stemming the Turkish invaders.
OLD GUY says
Erdogan a rerun of the NAZI ideology and goal to eradicate the Jewish people. Islam wants to regain its rule of the Middle East, Europe and the rest of the world just the same as Hitler did. Lets not let this get to the point of a major Third World War. Stop the migration invasion of islamic/muslim people around the world and clamp down on the countries that support violence around the world.
Val says
How can Erdogan say “racism”? He is not an Arab. The Arabification of Turkey is a horrible embarrassment, same as Iran. Don’t need anything from the Arabs. Peace be upon Ataturk.
jca reid says
Erdogan is partly right. To paraphrase Winston Churchill, “There is no more retrograde Force on this Planet than Islam.”
All aboard to go back to the 7th – 8th. Centuries!
Anne Smith says
Erdogan is working very hard to establish himself as the leader of the re-established Ottoman Empire and to hold sway himself, as its ruler, over all the Middle Eastern Muslim countries, with his pernicious influence being spread into Europe; through the many Turks who live there.