At the beginning of October, Macron prompted a widespread backlash from Muslims by unveiling his “plan to defend secularism.” The reaction of many Muslims to Macron’s statement that “Islam is a religion that is in crisis all over the world today” ironically proves Macron’s point.
Macron’s only mistake is his failure to note that Islam has been in a “crisis” for 1,400 years, as it is the only religion that teaches its adherents to be unwilling to live peaceably with others unless the non-Muslims are in a state of submission.
There is a direct link between Islam, terrorism and radicalization, and it is evident worldwide. Salafism is being spread in mosques and madrassas all over the world. It is the ignoring of this fact that has enabled this ideology to spread even further and more aggressively, cloaked by the veil of “Islamophobia” accusations.
“‘Stop stigmatising us’, French Muslims tell Macron,” by Rebecca Rosman, Al Jazeera, October 6, 2020:
In a divisive speech last Friday, French President Emmanuel Macron outlined proposals on how to challenge what he called “Islamist separatism”.
“Islam is a religion that is in crisis all over the world today, we are not just seeing this in our country,” Macron said during a nearly two hour speech in the northwest Paris suburb of Les Mureaux.
Muslims across the world responded with anger, with many viewing the speech, which was centred around protecting the ideal of French secularism, as an attempt to pander to the far right….
“Behind this law, there is a real stigmatisation,” Nagib Azergui, founder of the Union of French Muslim Democrats political party, told Al Jazeera. “[The proposal] is making a direct link between Muslims, terrorism and radicalisation.”
Azergui said he feared the consequences of that could be an increase in Islamophobia throughout the country.
“We’re in a state of vigilance where people are calling the police and saying my neighbour who has a beard or wears a headscarf is a threat.”
France’s Interior Ministry recorded 154 Islamophobic incidents in 2019, a 54-percent increase from 2019.
The Collective Against Islamophobia in France (CCIF), which uses a different method of calculation, said it recorded approximately 2,000 instances of Islamophobia in the same year.
In response to Macron’s speech, 100 prominent French Muslims signed an open letter calling on the government to stop stigmatising Muslims, especially women and working-class Muslims.
“Stop stigmatising Muslim women, whether they wear a headscarf or not, whose clothing choices have become a subject of national debate,” they said. “Stop the escalation of empty political and media debates. Stop the indictment of any speaker, Muslim or not, who does not subscribe to the racist speeches that have become omnipresent on our screens.”…
rubiconcrest says
Thanks Christina for showing us Islamic projection. Islam stigmatizes women, minorities, non-Muslim, speech, freedom of worship, how Muslims dress etc… Macron is not stigmatizing Islam he trying to help them help themselves. Macron as you say has not gone nearly far enough in explaining why his defense of secularism is needed.
Jayell says
It’s not just ‘French secularism’ he’s defending, it’s France itself. And he’s doing that because these muslims are openly threatening France and its cultural identity, and they know it. The only reason why they want him to stop ‘stigmatizing’ them is because it undermines their supremacist ambitions by drawing attention to their ‘subtle’ strategies and effectively calls their bluff.
mortimer says
Agree with C-D-W and RCC. It is psychological projection. Islam stigmatizes women and kafirs.
If the Muslims don’t want to adopt LIBERTÉ, EGALITÉ, FRATERNITÉ … then let them leave France. If they need help to do so, the French government will no doubt help them with the proviso that they not return.
If France doesn’t start deprogramming Muslims, in twenty years, they will be unable to do so.
Martin says
Elderly French aid worker arrives in France after Mali hostage ordeal
she converted to Islam —
she wants people to call her Maryam now ….
she wants to go back to Mali…
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— 2 Italians, 1 priest 1 tourist released at the same time
A ransom of more than10 millions euros is said to have been paid by the Vatican
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They were reportedly released in exchange for nearly 200 Muslim extremists.
https://www.dw.com/en/mali-4-hostages-released-in-prisoner-swap/a-55181784
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https://twitter.com/TV5MONDEINFO/status/1314522342685540357
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video – She is welcomed by her relatives and the French president, Emmanuel Macron.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRRwWopSe4U&ab_channel=AFPNewsAgency
gravenimage says
Thank you, Martin. More Stockholm Syndrome.
Ray Jarman says
+1 Rubiconcrest,
Well expressed and one might ask the members of the pernicious cult why they wish to live in a nation where secularization is embedded in its basic law, i.e., laïcité. The people of France should standup and tell the cult members that the door is open for them to leave and that, “Stop the escalation of empty political and media debates.” will not happen. Thousands of French men and women have died to protect their basic rights and no one has a right to steal their love of freedom.
Ray Jarman says
This was in reply to Rubiconcrest’s comment above.
mortimer says
Reply to RJ: telling moochers to leave will do nothing. Muslims will only stop the jihad when they are convinced that the Koran is of human origin. French intellectuals have the goods to provide the convincing arguments that will make Muslims abandon Islam. They should start working on it as a national ‘Manhattan Project’.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, we should just stop importing Muslims into the West, rather than bringing them in and then desperately hoping they leave Islam.
James Lincoln says
Yes, gravenimage.
Best referred to as primary prevention…
peter says
It should be two pronged . One to completely halt muslim immigration and the second to destroy islam at the intellectual level as a spiritual path to refine humanity as Islam is the most anti humanitarian religion in the world if one can call Islam a religion . Scholars like Mr. Spencer. David Wood and many others are taking a lead in this direction and should be given all the help they need .It is not going to be easy but can be done and it is not an exaggeration to say that they have achieved success in a reasonable measure which is really encouraging . Keep up the good work ! God bless!
Michael Copeland says
Nagib Azergui protests that “[The proposal] is making a direct link between Muslims, terrorism and radicalisation.” In fact it is Islam that makes those direct links.
The UK Government’s definition of “radicalisation” is:
“the process by which a person comes to support terrorism and forms of extremism leading to terrorism”?
That is quite a good description of what is conducted in mosques.
See “Instructing “Radicalisation””:
https://gatesofvienna.net/2018/01/instructing-radicalisation/
Ray Jarman says
Very true Michael and it is too bad the British Tori government does not ensure that the radicalization does not continue.
Walter Sieruk says
On second short paragraph explained it in a very clear way it stated about Islam that it’s ” the only religion that teaches its adherents to be unwilling to live peaceably with others unless the non-Muslims are in a state of submission.”
In addition , it’s a good idea not to take at face value the claim that the word Islam means “peace.” For example, the ENCARTA WORLD ENGLISH DICTIONARY copyright 1999 defines Islam as “submission” based on the word “aslama” meaning “he surrendered.” Given the definition it’s an odd phenomenon that after about fourteen hundred years starting on September 12, 2001 the meaning changed from “submission” to “peace.” It’s very well known that if the police are questioning someone and he changes his story something is wrong. Nevertheless, when it comes to Islam no one gets suspicious of the change. The jihadists brag that they will win the war against the West by using the Western ignorance and naive gullible mindset on the subject of Islam against us. It seems that they do have some basis in that claim since so many Westerners are beguiled by the Muslim disinformation campaign.
Walter Sieruk says
When , in France, the Muslim community told Macron to “stop stigmatizing us ” they fail ,somehow. to understand that any negative view the French people have of Muslims is because of the horrible behavior of the Muslim migrant in France who engage in sex assaults and outright rapes of many French girls as well as Muslim gang violent criminals and the Muslim riots in Paris because they didn’t “have everything their own way” .
Furthermore the malicious and murderous actions of Muslim terrorism in Paris and other cities of France can only lead the reality that those Muslims are stigmatizing themselves. With the horrible behavior by so many Muslims it’s not unreasonable to ask “What are the France supposed to think about all those Muslims living in their country ?”
Therefore, the French people are showing wisdom regarding dangers of Islam and Islamic terrorism. This new awareness of the part of the French is the results of many evil action of violence and murder by Muslim terrorists. In France. As seen in that jihadist who had committed his murderous attacks in the French city of Strasbourg last December was indeed most heinous Even before this Strasbourg Muslim terrorist attack there were those vicious ISIS jihad attack and those brutal murdering Islamic terror attacks on November 13,14 2015 and then that Nice, France jihad murdering jihad attack on July 14, 2016 in an ISIS audio recording broadcasted on September 2014 declared “If you can kill a disbelieving American or European especially the spiteful and filthy French …kill him in any manner or way however it may be.” [1] This alone exposes the vicious and malicious way of thinking of the jihadist who composes ISIS. The result of this wicked mindset where those heinously malice – filled jihad mindset was carried out by those by those Islamic jihadist deadly attacks in Paris and Nice.
In addition the jihadists of ISIS sure have some gall calling the French “spiteful” since it’s the jihadist ISIS thugs who are so very spiteful that they murder people in many extremely cruel ways. Likewise, the ISIS savages have some gall calling the French “filthy” Since it’s the ISIS jihadist villains who the ones who are so lawless and vile that the kidnap and rape both girls and women.
It’s only a matter of time before there will be further jihad attacks in France. It’s not if but when another violent and deadly Islamic terror attack or attacks will happen .
[1] THE ISIS CRISIS by Charles Dyer Page 44
rubiconcrest says
Good point. Muslim’s behavior creates revulsion. They eagerly do this to themselves.
SAFI says
Looks like France is starting to fight back, I wish we could say the same about the rest of western Europe but it’s a start. Good for France and good for Macron (he’s come a long way since 2017)
DavidR says
That’s the problem. There is no “us” in Islam or any other religion with more than one follower. We judge actions whose source always traces back and back to the words in the Quran and Hadith. Macron is saying that we should believe facts over trivial concerns, like who is whining now. Basic common sense.
FYI says
Stop stigmatizing the ‘Best community that hath been raised up for mankind” koran 3:110?
The muslim community,the holiest people in the world?
Members of a primitive Arab cult that CURSES Christians for believing in Jesus Christ{koran 9:30},is ferociously antisemitic referring to Jews as people ‘to be despised and hated'{koran 2:65},extremely misogynistic{women are HALF the value of men in islamic law koran 2:282},a murderously evil cult with an APARTHEID system that calls all non-muslims ‘the WORST OF CREATED BEINGS” {koran 98:6}and a Doctrine of HATE{al walaa wal baraa}?
A religion with a FALSE SCRIPTURE:the koran has so many errors in that by allah’s own criterion of koran 4:82,the koran in its imperfections ,must come from ‘other than allah’ which means it is false and entierly of human origin.
A FALSE god whose adversary is not shaitan but a MAN called ‘the King of Kings’
{Sahih Muslim vol 5 hadith #5611}which makes allah an evil god.
A FALSE pervert of a prophet who even admitted to being a false prophet{al tabari 6:111}
A murderous cult that wants to take over the world for its demonic god ,the diabolus simius Dei that is ‘allah’
islam stigmatizes itself.muslims are such two-faced hypocrites because in most parts of the world it is islam that is intolerant to other creeds.
Far too much consideration has been given to these koranic brutes in the West with their false creed,pedophile terrorist ‘prophet’,deceiver god and unholy koran
gravenimage says
France: Muslim community tells Macron ‘stop stigmatizing us’
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How *dare* the leader of France “stigmatize” rapists and murderers? Bad dhimmi!
peter says
ha! ha!ha! You must be joking . A good one ! Kudos to you
Prabhakar Shetty says
Stop stigmatizing.. Start expelling.
lucretia macevil says
The moslems are doing a damned good job of stigmatizing themselves, as always. Where are the outraged voices in response to moslem atrocities, moslem rapes, moslem terrorism, moslem anti-semitism, moslem misogyny? There is never any honest examination or introspection of their (so-called) ‘religion’, only thin-skinned petulance and accusations when the light is shone upon their mis-deeds and hate-mongering. There is a reason why moslems are mistrusted and disliked in every country in the world that has the misfortune to house them.
Check Burry says
I think we kuffars should stop, leave it to them as they are first class at stigmatising themselves, examples being, No 1 Hebdo, No 2 every other knifing, smiting, booming, running over with heavy vehicles since.