One of the most commonly repeated elements of the Leftist/Islamic supremacist rap sheet against me, supposedly establishing that I am an “anti-Muslim extremist,” is that I said that there was no reliable way to distinguish between peaceful Muslims and jihadists, and no distinction between the two in Muslim communities. This statement doesn’t mean that all Muslims are terrorists; it means that peaceful Muslims aren’t separating themselves from the terrorists. All too many jihadis have operated freely in American mosques without being put out. After a Muslim who supported the Islamic State shot a police officer in Philadelphia, the local mosque leaders initially denied knowing him, but then it turned out they were lying, and the jihadi attended the mosque frequently. The same thing happened after jihadis attacked our free speech event in Garland, Texas: the mosque they attended in Phoenix denied knowing them, but it turned out they were regular members.
In a similar vein, this Edris Z. was hailed as “Ambassador of Saxony” for his success in assimilating into German society. But it seems as if he still carried within him some of the attitudes and assumptions created by a culture of violence that mandates the beating of women “from whom you fear disobedience” (Qur’an 4:34). Yet no one could have predicted that this would happen, as there is, here again, no reliable way to distinguish between peaceful Muslims and violent ones. Instead of heaping abuse upon those who point this out, genuinely peaceful Muslims should be working hard to establish such a distinction.
“Young mother’s skull smashed in revenge: “Ambassador of Saxony” is silent in court,” translated from “Junger Mutter aus Rache Schädel eingeschlagen: ‘Botschafter Sachsens’ schweigt vor Gericht,” by Alexander Bischoff, TAG24, October 7, 2020 (thanks to Medforth):
Leipzig – For the public prosecutor, it was a coldly planned revenge murder. The trial against Edris Z. (31), who is said to have killed a young mother in the Auwald forest in April (TAG24 reported), began before the Leipzig regional court on Wednesday. The refugee aid worker had previously denounced the Afghan-born man under the Protection Against Violence Act – apparently this was her death sentence!
Edris Z. enters the courtroom in the morning, hiding his face behind a folder. Four judicial officers guard him. In front of the courthouse, almost 100 people are demonstrating against femicides at the same time – this is the political term for the killings of women because of their gender.
Without a word, the Afghan, who emigrated to Germany with his parents in 1995, takes a seat next to his lawyers. In 2006, the accused was described by former Saxon Prime Minister Georg Milbradt (75, Christian Democratic Union) as an “ambassador of Saxony” as a prime example of successful integration, and he was granted German citizenship in 2015.
Flashback: On the morning of April 8, Myriam Z. (37 years old) put on her baby carrier, carefully put her two and a half month old daughter Ava in it, and went for a walk in the southern Auwald forest.
According to the indictment, Edris Z. was also staying there. Not by chance. But with a hammer in his backpack and the plan to kill someone.
Edris and Myriam were once a couple. Both worked as social workers in refugee aid. The young Afghan never got over the fact that the self-confident woman separated from him at some point. According to the investigation, Edris Z. has been stalking his ex-girlfriend since then.
And he became violent: When Edris Z. saw Myriam in the company of another man in August 2018, he is said to have attacked him.
The prosecution mentions a wild biting attack, and the accused is also alleged to have attempted to gouge out the eyes of the migrant rival (25 years old) with his fingernails. The victim suffered severe injuries to his eyes and bite wounds all over his body, and a piece of his ear was also missing afterwards.
Was Myriam’s anti-violence complaint doomed?
Myriam then reported the stalker and obtained a ban on Edris Z. via the Violence Protection Act.
Apparently that was her death sentence. In the murder charges, prosecutors assume that Z. killed his ex-girlfriend in order to punish her for having reported him.
The stalker therefore approached the young mother from behind and smashed her skull with the hammer.
Even when Myriam fell to the ground, she lay down protectively over her baby and therefore had no free hand to protect her head, but the defendant is said to have continued to thrash her. The prosecution lists at least ten blows, including four on the head, in relation to the forensic examination.
Ray Jarman says
Why have not Muslims offered sympathy for the thousands of victims of Islamic terrorism? They only complain that when such incidents are reported, the descriptive word, Islamic, is used to identify the perpetrators. If they wish to be accepted, they need to speak out when atrocities by Islamic insects occur and proclaim their outrage about the deeds rather than the reporting of such occurrences.
Clive Delmonte says
This is so true and you are so right! Any ideas what we can do? The Muslims will do nothing.
Geoff Stow says
Exactly. I know numerous integrated successful Muslims worldwide and when I challenged them that this is their problem to fix otherwise they will be tarred with the same brush they all agree but do nothing.
revereridesagain says
Superstitious people are rarely willing to risk the wrath of their gods or endanger that everlasting “afterlife” party. But even if those considerations do not apply, how many Muslims who are not at least active “reformers” are willing to stick their necks out to criticize their “community” which they know full well harbors so many willing killers for Allah?
Terry Gain says
I wouldn’t trust any words of sympathy or any criticism by a Muslim of Islamic terrorism. Such statements are mere virtue signalling words and are not reliable coming from the adherents of the ideology that motivates these barbaric attacks.
Lilith Wept says
Exactly! The problem is islam itself…. It’s the mainstream, core doctrine that is contained in the Koran , Hadith that are the cause of ALL Islamic Terrorism.
You can’t reform Islam. It’s supposedly perfect, hasn’t changed by a so led it since it was written down, written by Allah on gold tablets in heaven at the beginning of time, and it’s forbidden to change. It’s also forbidden to critizize or question anything once Mohammed and his puppet Allah have decided something.
We can encourage and continue to support everyone who is exposing ALL of Islam, especially the ugly parts, to moslems that may not have every heard this part of their religion. The Jihadi know very well that Islam encourages hatred, violence and killing of all non moslems through a never ending jihad. But there are many moslems who don’t know the more violent, parts of the Koran and Hadith, or they don’t know the evil,things Mohammed did or they have been lied to about what Mohammed did and the kind of person he was.
We can encourage and support people who offer the alternative of Christianity to those moslems and ex moslems who are seeking salvation, and who want to KNOW they are saved.
And we of the West, especially America should offer refugee status to all moslems who have left Islam and are in fear of their lives. We should be helping ex moslems as much as we can, especially during the hard times right after they leave Islam and have lost everything . And we should offer protection to apostate moslems , protection from moslems who want to kill them.
We should also be much more aggressive in protecting woman whomare in danger of being honor killed because they are becoming Westernized, assimilating.
This is one way we can fight against Islam. By insisting on and enforcing own laws, and our own culture and religions. We should stop the groveling, pandering and favoring Islam that is happening right now. And we should insist that if Moslsms live in OUR western countries, they much obey our laws.
IMO we should also ban Islam in the US , on the basis of the doctrine of hatred,violence, killing,jihad against non moslems as well as its aggressive expansionism.,
Walter Sieruk says
That cruel misogynist Muslim migrant who brutally beat that German women to death reveals just who malicious and dangerous many of those Muslim immigrates can be, but it also further exposes that Islamic misogyny of Islam can be very ruthless and even murderous . Even more so towards females, girls and women, who are not Muslims.
The vast number of murders and sex assaults and outright rapes against the German girls and women in the nation of Germany has been strongly linked to the large number of male Muslim migrants may serve as an example of Muslim ungratefulness and unthankfulness for letting them enter Germany to live. This this further exposes the Muslim’s Islamic contempt for people who are Westerners and Western civilization, Western laws.
This Muslim violence may be yet better explained by one of the fables of Aesop which is entitled THE FARMER AND THE VIPER. So here it is “Once in ancient Greece there was a farmer outside on a very cold winter day walking in if field to make sure that everything is in order and as it should be. The farmer came upon a half-froze viper about to die from the bitter cold. The kind yet foolish farmer took pity on the viper and in an action of kindness put it his is vest jacket to warms and up and thus save its life. The viper warned up revived and then bit farmer through the vest jacket. So the kind but foolish farmer died a slow painful death in awful agony because he felt sorry of the viper and saved it life. The point to this fable is the no amount of kindness will change and vicious and evil nature, they have this evil nature because of their violent, misogynistic religion.
So it is with those Muslim migrants who were allowed to Germany to live . Those violent migrants who are Muslims will not be impress and change because kindness of Westerners. This is because those violent Muslims have that ungrateful dangerous viper nature because of their venomous and violent religion which is Islam.
What a , truly , dangerous , violent and deadly religion Islam actually is .
Rarely says
This appears to be nothing more than a horny young man with a severely bruised ego. What did Aesop have to say about such sickos?
don vito says
Perhaps Aesop would say his fable illustrates what happens when sickos, being young horny men with big egos, are welcomed into a society and culture so different from the society and culture the sicko originates from.
Rarely says
100% correct. We have enough horny young men with very fragile egos without importing more.
Remember, however, that this guy moved to Germany in 1995 at the age of 5 or 6.
don vito says
Rarely, yes moving to Germany at a young age would seem to imply that moslem children would learn and accept European/Western values. I think that this is surface thinking, in other words, making an association between living in a political/geographical location and absorbing values of that location has not been proven to be the case. I can explain in greater detail, but it’s my belief, if you don’t accept my reasoning so be it. The hiria, is one reason why moslem children refuse Western values. Another reason is islamic teaches moslems are the best of people, kufr the worst. This is inculcated throughout moslems’ lives. Supremacy belief. If you’ve ever heard of or studied the Euro-Arab dialogue agreements between the European governments and the arab governments, you will learn of the demands made of the European government by the arab governments, as well as demands from the arab league etc. of the EU. One of the demands was that arabs/moslems were not to assimilate into European culture, but were to instead remain separate from Western civilization and maintain their islamic identity. If you want to find out more read Eurabia by Bat ye’or, she documents these demands throughly. Any way these are some of the reasons why I believe moving to Germany at the age of 5 or 6 doesn’t mean this sicko disavows his islamic heritage.
James Lincoln says
don vito,
Eurabia is completely, and predictably, whitewashed by Leftist controlled Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurabia
gravenimage says
The idea that Muslims who move to the West all embrace Western values is of course ridiculous–all of the “Honor Killings” and Jihad terror attacks here belie that claim.
Lilith Wept says
Don Vito, we could Learn a lesson from the Spaniards who dealt with the moslems reamaining in Spain after the Reconquista of Christianity ….
The Spanish forced people and their descendants who had orginally been Christian, then converted to Islam to save themselves, to convert to Christianity. Or leave Spain if they wanted to remain Moslem…….And we could learn from the Spaniards now difficult this was, and how many problems these moslems turned Christian caused.
These moslsms converted to Christianity on the surface yet continued to practice Islam. “ Smiling in their faces while hating them in their hearts” is how Islam phrases it. I believe they held out hope that by practicing taqyyia they could wait until,they had a change to re take Spain back for Islam. So they didn’t leave but pretended to convert to Christianity.
The moslems turned Christian heard a rumor that some leaders of the the Islamic world were coming to their rescue to fight against the Spaniards , take back Spain and in response these moslems turned Christians went on a Jihad spree, killing Christians, especially priests and nuns, stealing Christians property , kidnapping and rapeing young woman and nuns and burning Christians property , despoiling, desecrating and then burning churches…..until this uprising was put down by Christian troops.
And we should pay attention to how much of a problem this gave the Christians. The tenacity to which moslsm clung to islam should have been a lesson for us …..before we allowed any Moslem immigration.
Moslems don’t assimilate. They pretend , and lie while they are at a disadvantage or weak. And the moment moslems believe themselves numerous enough or strong enough they drop,the pretense , discard any peace agreements or treaties , and they resume the jihad they have been fighting against ALL non moslems for 1600 years.
Rufolino says
A recent German survey indicated that the children of Islamic immigrants do not become more assimilated than their parents.
It was found that in general the chidren, born in Germany, were much MORE radical and MORE extreme in their religious beliefs than their parents.
This suggests that the Islamic immigrant community is turning into a ticking time-bomb of hostility.
Rarely says
DV.
I do not suggest that moving to Germany at a young age would necessarily give one “western values” (whatever those may be) but rather to point out that his experience with the horrific violence in his native born country would have affected him less than is implied..
Nor am I equating or comparing muslims with Mennonites. I was merely pointing out that whatever the mindset required to commit such a horrific act is in no way the exclusive property of muslims (unlike honor killings).
Once again, there is no evidence here to show that this murder had anything to do islam or with his being muslim — although it may have.
gravenimage says
Rarely, do you *really* believe that Western values are no different from those of Islam? In that case, why are civilized Westerners not waging violent Jihad and trying to impose brutal Shari’ah law?
And Muslims are not necessarily violent just because they have been around the violence of Islamic countries–just being taught the savagery of Islam’s canonical texts and the ugly values of a Muslim family are often enough.
If they were not, then you would not find second- and third-generation Jihad terror in the West–but of course, you do.
don vito says
Rarely, of course it was impossible for me to know any of your intentions, except by what you posted here. Cheers.
don vito says
James Lincoln, thanks for the link. As I read through it, I did not see any refutation of the agreed to demands by the arab governments and organization, of the European governments and the EU/Brussels organization. So, as you post whitewashed, it seems. As I read of the critics, of the said book, their criticism consisted of smearing the book thesis, with labels without evidence that each chapter in the book documented the islamic pressures on Europe, was not truth. We only have to look at modern day Europe and see the fruit of these unrefuted agreements with moslem nations to see the smearing neither accurate or believable. From murder and rape, to islamic tyranny Europe has changed since the “dialogues” began in the ’70s. Thus fulfilling the goal of the dialogues from the islamic nations.
gravenimage says
Rarely, there are lots of horny young men with bruised egos. Why pretend they are all beating women to death with hammers?
GOLDMANN says
What have goats or cows to do with anything !?????!? Mr “Graven image”, how old are you ???. The word you’re looking for is lust ?? l bet you’re about 70.
Rarely says
GI.
There are lots of murders by jilted ex-husbands, ex-boyfriends, etc. who are not muslim.
Whether they use hammers or shotguns (as my Mennonite example used) what’s the difference. I see nothing here that separates this act from similar insane (yes, insane) acts by non-muslims.
gravenimage says
GOLDMANN, I was replying to Rarely, who used those terms.
I did not mention goats or cows, and no–I am not seventy. Not sure what any of this is a reference to, or how it is salient here.
gravenimage says
Rarely, I know that you are wedded to the idea that this has nothing to do with Islam, but “Honor Killings” and murders of female partners is *far* more common under Islam that it is among native German citizens. And why not? The abuse and murder of women is perfectly Halal.
GOLDMANN says
Mr Sieruk BLAME MERKEL! SHE keeps letting them in ? and planning to let. 1000’s more in !? ?? .
wpm says
GOLDMANN
I believe gravenimage was quoting Rarely post(not that the word lust or horny instead should get your panties in a bunch) ,Merkel was elected to be the leader of Germany again recently, despite her terrible policy of letting in many of these violent “refugees” following the cult of Islam. I blame the ignorance of the majority of German voters for electing leaders who believe the suicide of the culture of western Europe would benefit the world. Western culture and law does not tolerate honor killings ,Islam law encourages and demands honor killings that is the bottom line .Thousand of young men of all cultures are anger by broken relationships with women every day(some sexual, some nonsexual relative estrangements ) on this planet earth some react violently ,Islam is the only major religious system in this day and age to encourages and excuses violence against women .By Islamic law the only way to bring back “honor” to the male hurt ego is to violently punish the women, be her his wife, girl friend, sister , and or daughter .If any female does not submit to the Moslem male will and publicly goes against him(rejects sexual advance girl friend or wife , dates non-Moslem men daughters, does not wear the veil in public any relative she should be killed any excuse will do ),this is about power thru violence not just sex or lust .Blame the ignorance of many people living in the western world, the MSM , the political correct virtual signaling entertainers who have become our new high priests and experts on what public policy should be blamed. Blame the self censorship that we must not condemn Islam violent practices and laws that have been against the law in western world for many years .We should tolerate violence ,because we might hurt “someone feelings or beliefs”?? To point it out publicly to ban and punish people who encourage these vile 7 century practices, that we should beholding the people who we elect to office to be working to protect and advance our civilization not destroy it.
gravenimage says
Thank you, wpm.
truthout says
It isn’t ignorance my dear. Germany, more specifically Nazi German, was in fact aligned with the Muslims toward the end of the war .They had more in common than not.Hate to tell you this but Nazi Germany didn’t die it just went underground.It learned from its masters to be quiet.
Rufluc says
It seems she was doomed for getting involved with these so called refugees from the start. Don’t these women realise the level of trouble they are inviting on themselves for getting involved with these Islamic parasites? Are they that naïve not to realise they are expendable to these barbarians, and will be eventually treated like chattel once the smooth talking slime balls start to dominate and own them?
I can only assume she was of German heritage, so she was highly likely to have been blinded by her left wing conditioning, which makes these women throw caution to the wind, in their little world of pink fairies and Muslims in shining armour.
Sadly this kind of story has now become oh too common, but will these women ever learn? Absolutely not! The mere thought of rejecting the advances of these third world animals would certainly go against their left wing indoctrination, which teaches these girls to be totally available to any one of them that shows a sexual interest in them, which roughly translates into being available to them all!
gravenimage says
*Deeply* foolish. And given her name, it sounds as though she converted to Islam. Even more foolish.
Rarely says
What part of his being muslim played into this atrocious murder? It’s unknown from the facts presented. This doesn’t appear from the facts presented to be an honor killing but rather the insane act of a discarded boy friend. Horribly, many, many women are murdered world wide by jilted lovers, husbands, ex-husbands, and the like. It is its own pandemic and is as old as dirt. Even more women stay in abusive relationships through fear (perhaps “terror” would be a more appropriate word).
This case seems to be a lot less about “failed” integration and a lot more about a “deranged” ex-boyfriend.
Nor does the muslim community need to take ownership of this act in any way whatsoever. It would be a great insult to even ask the local imam to comment. When a Mennonite lawyer in this town murdered his estranged wife and crippled his father-in-law there was no hint of a suggestion that it had anything to do with his religion ( a very strict religion I might add). The Mennonite community was not even asked to comment nor did they volunteer to do so.
A terrible act by a very sick individual.
don vito says
You make a good point, from the facts presented what role did islam play in this murder? Preexisting knowledge of the moslem mores in the case of gender rights in islam is a helpful prerequisite in understanding the motive of murder by a moslem male, of a female. Also interaction between believer and kufr dynamics would be a great aid as well. Juxtapose a moslem ideology vs a mennonite belief shows the differences far out way similarities between the two. Mennonites do not authorize murder for any reason, islam, however does authorize (halal) murder, and does not forbid (haram) it. Knowing islamic jurisprudence when reading of news reports of moslem actions in a nonislamic lands fills in the blanks that articles leave out in the public reports.
Rarely says
An enraged former husband/boyfriend would not receive permission from his religion if he were Christian, Jewish or Hindu — and yet they commit many murders of this kind. That islam permits, or even encourages, such attacks is no evidence whatsoever that it contributed to this murder.
Without any evidence of such a connection we must accept the possibility (likelihood?) that nothing separates it from similar murders by non-muslims.
don vito says
“That islam permits, or even encourages, such attacks is no evidence whatsoever that it contributed to this murder.” Ok,
Roscoe Arbuckle says
Lay down with dog you get fleas……………………if you lucky…..???
Mccode says
Democrats said “it was a mostly peaceful ” murder.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
The accused’s first name (Edris) and age (31) are given. Why is Mr Z’s surname not given?
Michael Copeland says
German rules for before guilt is proven..
gravenimage says
This is common in many Western European countries.
eduardo odraude says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSz2CDl1jxY
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link, Eduardo, David Wood is great.
somehistory says
Hang this scum moslim high with hungry hogs waiting below. Hungry hogs will eat just about anything. The swine won’t care that this moslim scum is evil as the devil he worships.
I pray every day that God will bring His Kingdom and will do His will on earth. When He does these, and makes people recognize how Holy is His Name, then islam and its evil will come to its deserved end..
Until then, governments of men must see that women and children raped, murdered, made orphans, receive some measure of justice. Yes, and put an end to some…at least some…of the violence before it happens. Stop allowing moslims to walk about freely breaking the Laws and morals of the Universe, doing so with impunity, putting everyone else at risk. Recognize the dangers and do what is possible to protect innocent citizens.
And women…stop dating moslims, stop marrying moslims, stop befriending them. They are not your friends…no matter how much they lie and say they are…and they do not love and cherish you…no matter how many lies they tell saying they do.
mortimer says
Edris Z. may have appeared to assimilate on the outside, but he did not assimilate on the inside.
Edris Z. still believed the Koran’s 164 jihad verses were valid for today. When Muslims see that the Koran is of human origin, they leave Islam instantly.
Rarely says
He moved to Germany in 1995 when he was 5 or 6. This wasn’t some sort of a religious murder.
How do you know how religious he is or isn’t?
When a muslim commits a crime — especially one that is common among non-muslims — why must it be blamed on his religion? That is especially the case when we don’t have any idea how seriously he took his religion.
gravenimage says
Well, of course! Why would any of us ‘filthy Infidels’ have a problem with this? Good grief…
Never mind that these sort of “Honor Killings” are mainstream Islam.
Rarely says
Ah yes. When a muslim does it it’s an honor killing but when a Christian does it it’s something else. This was no honor killing.
This guy represents islam and muslims no more than the Boston Strangler represented Italian Catholic Americans — at least no evidence of that is given.
wpm says
When a “Christian “does it his Christian community does not under any grounds tolerated it .When a Moslem does it it is an acceptable act in his community if his “honor” has been offended that is the difference. The code of ethics In Islam of murder, rape, thief are acceptable behavior if they are performed on unbelievers they are in fact look at as following Islamic rules pleasing allah. . The Boston Strangler behavior was not acceptable to “Italian Americans” or American society at large. The Catholic Church does not run to the defense of the Boston Strangler calling him a good man of God. .
Rarely says
WPM.
When the muslim community comes to the support of murders like this it still doesn’t mean that his being muslim had anything to do with it. However it does reflect on that community and shows a complete lack of moral values in that community’s leadership.
wpm says
To Rarely
Moslem community blindly support a Moslem man murdering a non-Moslem women nothing to do with Islam got Rarely ! Do you do speech writing for the Pope by the way? Or work part time for CAIR writing slogans?
Rarely says
WPM.
The aftermath has everything to do with islam. That doesn’t mean that the act did.
Terry Gain says
The killing has the brutal and sadistic hallmarks of an Islamic fanatic.
gravenimage says
+1
Giacomo Latta says
Would someone who is familiar with Islam and disgusted by it take a job as a counsellor to immigrants he knows to be muslim?
GOLDMANN says
Mr Mortimer ??????his name is Edris ??! That’s a Welsh name sure it is. These paki savages have English name some of them how ODD!??? like that Linda Sarsour ??
gravenimage says
Edris is not purely a Welsh name:
https://www.thebump.com/b/edris-baby-name
gravenimage says
Germany: Muslim migrant hailed as model of integration and called ‘Ambassador of Saxony’ beats woman to death
………….
This *poor woman*. Why are these model “moderate” Muslims usually anything but? (A question that provides its own answer, of course).
Ad Koerbagh says
The psychology and ethics of islam are semi-nomadic, tribal and violent. There is no monopoly on violence of an organised state, no separation of religion and government, no social contract, only sharia, ‘honour’ and survival. No christan or buddhist or humanistic sense of crime or guilt, good and bad, no self-discipline or introspection.
A David Darman says
Mr Spencer, in reporting this horrific act, what causes you to reference a LEFTIST/islamic rap sheet against you? Where is left/right political positioning relevant in this crime story? What was the political position of the killer?
It seems to me that this is one more example of your illogical eagerness to conflate leftism with mindless tolerance (if not acceptance) of islam. There are many who consider themselves on the left of the political spectrum who abhor the islamic ideology. Why alienate this segment of society? Have you been abused disproportionately by those who you believe to be on the left or does opposing your views on all things islam , ipso facto, define one as a leftist without regard to other issues, e.g. taxation, international relations, gun control, abortion, adherence to classical religion, etc?
I have long thought this incessant conflation of left and pro-islam by you to be so unsupported and outright odd that it undermines your influence and effectiveness as a teacher and beneficial social force.
James Lincoln says
A David Darman,
Perhaps you are confusing JFK type liberalism with Leftism.
Classic Liberals will engage in a conversation, and many – like you said – abhor the islamic ideology.
Hard-core Leftists will not engage in significant dialogue, hate America, and want to tear it down and replace it with communism.
Devout muslims feel the same way about America but have different objectives. They want to replace the United States government with an islamic theocracy and sharia law.
So there is a “temporary” Leftist / islamic alliance to bring down America – “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” sort of thinking.
Robert Spencer is correct in his analysis.
jim says
The left wingers twist themselves into pretzels to ignore Islamic homophobia and misogyny. Just wait until the whites are no longer in power and the left/muslim strife starts.
David Darman says
I believe there is some confusion, but I’m pretty sure I’m not the one that is confused, at least I’m not if we give normal meaning to words like leftist, liberal and communist. And therein lies the rub.
Many people here, including apparently yourself, use the words “leftist” or “leftism” to mean things that the normal/common definition of those words do not mean. For starters, they don’t mean a communist form of government or economic order…and they also sure don’t mean anti-American, anti-capitalist, or anti-democratic. Spencer adds to this confusion by conflating leftist (and even liberal) and pro-islam. That is simply incorrect and irrational.
Once we define terms, maybe we can see that our opinions are not that far apart. Existing USA and various state law provides for many features of a planned, socialistic form of government (features of what is commonly considered a communist form of government). For example, consider social security, food stamps, welfare and public assistance (SSI), unemployment ins, medicare, and a structured income, sales, gift, and inheritance taxation system that exacts more from the wealthy or highest earners and redistributes the money to others or for state purposes.
These terms “left wing” and “right wing” generate more heat than light. I support the following issues:
a) higher taxation on the wealthy;
b) continuation of state-sponsored medical services (ala a more generous medicare system);
c) keeping government out of our bedrooms, (i.e., from defining love and limiting access to abortion);
d) a capitalist form of economic system (generally an unplanned economic structure);
e) private ownership of the means of production
f) a democratic form of government where leaders run for office and are popularly elected
g) no support for repressive foreign governments (e.g. Venezuela/Cuba) that prevent their citizens from ex-patriotizing and no support for all sharia law states that are theocracies.
I share your belief that devout Muslims are, by definition, anti-American because by definition devout Muslims want a theocracy. Leftist, liberal or not, I want a strong USA, a democratic republic that maintains sensible social policies and enjoys good international relations.
To say there is a leftist/liberal/Islamic alliance is nonsense. Outside the pages of JWatch, that idea is unheard of.
gravenimage says
David, right now the Democratic presidential candidate has vowed to import more Muslims “on day one”, and to reinstate enabling the Iran nuclear program. Most Muslim candidates are Democrats.
You *do* find pandering to Muslims and Islam on the Right, but it is not nearly as prevalent as it is on the Left. I wish that this were not so–but pretending that it is not doesn’t really help anything, especially in the stand against Jihad.
jim says
WTF? Why wasn’t he in jail for 10 years after the first attack?
Not that I particularly care for the fate of a woman who is transforming Germany into a foreign nation through reproduction, but this is pure incompetence on the part of the government. The man should have been jailed or deported.
Christina Pansy says
There’s no such thing as “Islamophobia.” A “phobia” is an irrational fear of something. There’s nothing irrational about fearing Islam, considering the danger.