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Islamic scholar: Main crime was not the beheading, but the insults to Muhammad, and ‘we are winning this front’

Oct 20, 2020 12:00 pm By Robert Spencer 32 Comments

Muhammad Abd Al-Karim is right. More and more people in the West have begun to take for granted that one should simply obey Islamic blasphemy laws:

How about we all just not draw Muhammad then k?
Seems pretty simple.

— Nicole Arbour (@NicoleArbour) October 18, 2020

Nicole Arbour, and many others like her, doesn’t realize that to give in to violent intimidation is only to encourage and invite more violent intimidation. At a certain point, free people will have to stand up for their principles, or they will no longer be free.

“Sudanese Islamic Scholar Muhammad Abd Al-Karim on Beheading of French Teacher: The Offensive Cartoons Were the Main Crime; For Every Action There Is a Reaction,” MEMRI, October 17, 2020:

In an October 17, 2020 interview on Channel 9 (Turkey), Sudanese Islamic scholar Muhammad Abd Al-Karim, the Secretary-General of the Muslim Scholars Association, discussed the recent beheading of Samuel Paty, a French history teacher who had shown his class cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. Abd Al-Karim said that the main crime had been the insults against the Prophet Muhammad. Arguing that the killing was a natural reaction to provocation, Abd Al-Karim criticized French President Emmanuel Macron for “encouraging” insults against Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. He said that if France wanted to stop such reactions, then it should stop offending Islam and its symbols, such as Prophet Muhammad. Abd Al-Karim said that Macron encourages offence to Islam in the name of free speech but is “too cowardly” to discuss the Holocaust.

Muhammad Abd Al-Karim: “They say that the man [who murdered French teacher Samuel Paty] committed a crime, but the main crime that was committed was the crime of hurling insults against the Prophet Muhammad. Macron’s crime was that he did not condemn the offense against the Prophet Muhammad.

[…]

“For every action, there is a reaction. It is the nature of human beings. People who curse and transgress using profanities should not expect, in exchange, to be warmly welcomed.

[…]

“Since the beginning of these provocations, I have been telling the [Muslim] communities in the West in general and specifically in France, that they must maintain self-control, because we are winning this front. These people have resorted to curses and profanities only because they are weak and helpless, and because they have been defeated on the ideological front. In addition, they see how they are defeated on a daily basis, when Islam wins over many of them who are ushered into our great religion.

[…]

“Who is responsible for these incidents? Responsibility lies, first and foremost, with whoever commits the provocation. It is not the Muslims who have transgressed. They did not start talking about the symbols and sanctities of France. These provocations are being committed by France, with its President at the helm. In the name of freedom of speech, Macron is encouraging people to talk offensively against the Prophet Muhammad and against Islam. The same Macron is too cowardly to talk about the Holocaust.

[…]

“If France wants to put an end to these reactions, it must stop its attacks against Islam and its symbols, first and foremost of which is the Prophet Muhammad.”

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  1. Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

    Oct 20, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    How about we all just not draw Muhammad then k?

    Seems pretty simple.

    …and as long as you want to surrender Nicole, how ’bout we just ignore the rape of little girls in forced marriages? the murder of apostates and gays by bigoted muslims. The mass rape of western kids and women by horny muslim men. The exclusive enclaves that consume our towns and villages. The FGM and the terrorism they do even when we don’t draw muhammad. In fact, why don’t you just spread your legs and let every muslim f*ck your stupid brains out and kill your family, since you care so much about terrorists who kill us over cartoons.

    There’s a lot of stupid c*nts in the world that have shit for brains, and don’t have a clue about the world beyond their own latte and anal wipes. Seriously, somebody wake that girl up.

    (Sorry JW for my harsh language, but these stupid folks for islam bring it out of me. Please forgive me.)

    Reply
    • Stressed eric says

      Oct 20, 2020 at 12:23 pm

      ,+1

      Reply
      • Kevn Raddy says

        Oct 20, 2020 at 1:25 pm

        +2

        Reply
        • GreekEmpress says

          Oct 20, 2020 at 5:37 pm

          +3

        • Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

          Oct 20, 2020 at 6:38 pm

          Are you guys gauging my IQ? lol. Thanks. 🙂

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 21, 2020 at 12:34 am

          Agostino, I think +3s are pretty good. Maybe you need another sucker?

          https://cdna.4imprint.com/prod/700/329359.jpg

          By the way, I’ve given you an A+ on a few other threads. 🙂

        • Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

          Oct 21, 2020 at 4:59 am

          By the way, I’ve given you an A+ on a few other threads. Graven

          I noticed that, and I am most appreciative. It helps my ego immensely. 🙂

    • James Lincoln says

      Oct 20, 2020 at 3:53 pm

      Agostino Armo Pellegrini says,

      “There’s a lot of stupid c*nts in the world that have shit for brains”

      Likely an equal number of male leftists/muslim apologists, etc.

      Reply
    • b.a. freeman says

      Oct 21, 2020 at 1:36 am

      i understand completely, AAP, and i often use the same language myself. the only difference between us is that i try very hard to use asterisks (*) in every profane statement i make. i probably have not succeeded. with *every* such statement i make, however, i hope that i insult the poisonous mind disease, islam; if ever *anything* needed to be maligned, it is islam. in fact, it is hard to imagine the cult actually being maligned, since its very beliefs condemn it.

      f*** islam. f*** pervert muhammed, and may he eat s**t in hell forever.

      Reply
      • Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

        Oct 21, 2020 at 5:04 am

        f*** islam. f*** pervert muhammed, and may he eat s**t in hell forever.

        Better we should do, “FUCK i***m. FUCK pervert mu******ed,” since the word “fuck” never killed anyone!

        Reply
    • william carr says

      Oct 21, 2020 at 7:39 am

      The situation is ludicrous anyway. As nobody has ever seen Moham and no pictures of him can exist according to Islamic law. How can anybody depict him. All depictions of him must be false so why worry about it. Just another thing for Moose Limbs to get in a lather about

      Reply
      • Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

        Oct 21, 2020 at 9:11 am

        As nobody has ever seen Moham and no pictures of him can exist according to Islamic law

        True, I’ve been pointing that craziness out for years. But this just goes to show the lunatic thinking of these muslims. Seriously, they are bonefied nuts, crazy, loopy, mad, kooky, wacky, daft, bonkers, and batty. And I’m talking about the peaceful “moderate” muslims. The terrorists are far worse.

        Reply
      • James Lincoln says

        Oct 21, 2020 at 10:12 am

        Just wondering william, would devout muslims get triggered by a blank sheet of paper labeled the “prophet” mohammed?

        Reply
        • Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

          Oct 21, 2020 at 10:57 am

          lol, good question. Or, would they be offended if we drew him in our mind, haha! If they get angry would could just exclaim, “I’m kidding! I can’t even draw.” And then they spend the rest of the day eyeing us, looking for any sign of mentally drawing. But we’re too wise for them, we just smile wily and think “Yes! I’m still free even though I’m their slave!” That’s where we’re headed, freedom gets smaller and smaller every day under islam.

    • Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

      Oct 21, 2020 at 10:27 am

      The problem with people like Nicole is, they have never had to suffer for freedom or go with out it very much. She hasn’t had to live under a misogynist culture that treats women like cows for breeding with diminished rights and a lower status. She doesn’t know what it’s like to be murdered by a crazed jihadist killing for his demon, and most likely has never lost a loved one in that way. And I’m going to gamble and say, she has never been driven from her home for muslim bigotry, or raped by a muslim migrant who was having a “sexual emergency,” nor has she been tossed from a building to her death as have so many gays. And I can’t be sure, but I bet she has not been sexually mutilated for that sick islamic practice, FGM. People like Nicole are the reason our nation is losing its pride and heritage to anarchists, Marxists, and islamists, and violent BLM. They are the product, I believe, of leftist indoctrination that says we must hate ourselves to atone for past mistakes, and we must accept any evil that comes our way because all cultures are equal and must be respected.

      We must be multicultural!

      … even if it means sharing our lands with people who live for an alien ideology that threatens our free existence and who mass murder for that ideology. So from Nicole’s perspective it makes perfect sense that we should forsake our cherished principle of free speech and cornerstone of democracy for a viperous ideology. Because her lack of appreciation for the freedoms others have fought and died for is no skin off her nose. She can afford to say “yes” to islam and “no” to freedom, because she hasn’t had to pay the price for either one.

      Every culture has done evil things. When the Spaniards came to the Western hemisphere the natives were cutting out the beating hearts of their human sacrifices, while the “noble savages” of Africa were killing, raping, torturing, warring, and as conniving as any other f*cking race or culture on earth. I won’t hang my head low because the pot wants to call the kettle black. Despite our mistakes our nation has continued to grow greater, more compassionate, wiser, with every passing year. We aren’t at the mountain top yet, but brothers and sisters, this ain’t 1920 Georgia and Jim Crow is over. So f*ck off with your reparations and your self hatred. We don’t owe islam anything for our past developmental stages. Like everyone else on planet earth we are fumbling through life, acting compassionate when we can and warring when we have to. Stop tearing America down, and stop trying to cram islam down our throats because you think we owe their demon god an apology. They owe us an apology for mass murdering our people and terrorizing the world for sick a demonic creed.

      Reply
  2. mortimer says

    Oct 20, 2020 at 12:13 pm

    According to Islamic scholar Muhammad Abd Al-Karim, the Secretary-General of the Muslim Scholars Association, BEHEADING A BLASPHEMER IS NOT A CRIME.

    Did any of the LEFTARDS GET THAT?

    Nothing to see here … move along.

    Reply
  3. newsupplements says

    Oct 20, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    Not acceptable to be forever cowed to Islamic sensibilities, rather let those who want to practice this barbaric ideology be restricted to Sudan! or whatever country they originate, without passports. This way none of us can be offended by the Islamic need to rape & murder in the name of their invisible entity!

    Reply
  4. FYI says

    Oct 20, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    An islamic ‘scholar’..?

    14th centuries of islamic ‘scholarship’

    allah says if you find ANY mistakes in his ‘perfect’ book {koran 4:82} then that would mean that the koran,in its imperfections must come from ‘other than allah’ which would indicate it doesn’t come from God.

    “Will they not ponder on the koran?If it had been from other than allah they would have found therein much incongruity”
    koran 4:82

    So are there ERRORS in the koran,could it be said of allah ‘s ‘perfect’ book that therein is found much ‘incongruity’?

    Oh YES..

    allah mistakenly thinks Christians believe MARY is part of the Trinity{koran 5:116} WRONG
    allah insists the Jews believe ‘Ezra is the son of allah’.They don’t{koran 9:30}WRONG
    allah says he gave the Gospel to Jesus{but the Gospel came AFTER Jesus’ time}{koran 5:46}WRONG

    allah’s warped teachings do NOT conform to the Law given to Moses{the 2 chief laws and the decalogue}
    allah missed the Golden Rule{Matthew 7 v 12} the Spirit of Wisdom{missing in the koran.Part of the Trinity but allah doesn’t believe in the Trinity.In fact he gets the THEOLOGY WRONG},the concept of people being made in the spiritual image of God and thus EQUAL{Genesis 1:27}:allah has an APARTHEID system{koran 98:6} and believes women are stupid and only worth HALF the value of a man{thus showing allah MISSED Genesis 1:27 as men and women,in a spiritual sense MUST be equal before God.But not you note, to allah the Arab god of islam}

    muslim ‘scholars’ and apologists will always be lying to you as allah is ok with Lying to promote islam{koran 3:28}..and murder of infidels{koran 2:191} and stealing from infidels{koran 48:20}.These ‘scholars’ know about all the HOLES IN THE STANDARD NARRATIVE thanks to yasir Qadhi {“its not wise yakhi” .Yes it is not wise for islamic ‘scholars’ to give the game away’ IN PUBLIC}

    They have to work overtime to defend a ‘prophet’ who was a pederast,murderer and caravan robber ,a holey koran so full of errors it cannot possibly come from God{by allah’s own criterion of koran 4:82} and a linguistically,scientifically and theologically challenged idiot of an Arab god..

    14 CENTURIES of islamic scholarship,of the brains of islam …..

    allah tells muhammed[and thus muslims} to CONSULT those who know the Bible{koran 10:94} a book allah CONFIRMS{koran 3:3} especially the Gospel{koran 5:46-47}

    Had they done this ,they would have seen that it is obviously the koran that is false and corrupt.

    Now thanks to the internet is it seen to be a FALSE holy book.But the ‘scholars’ will deny it of course.

    Reply
  5. Fred van de Bunt says

    Oct 20, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    He is true. This epic battle in France he and his jihad warriors won.
    Makes you forget the minor battle losses, like the 700.000 they not long ago kicked out of Burma, or the 10.000.000 they deradicalize at the moment in China.

    Hopefully this great imam and islam battle commander stays that strong in math.

    Reply
  6. Wellington says

    Oct 20, 2020 at 3:26 pm

    When the “main crime” is insult and not a beheading, you know you’re dealing with a highly deficient human being.

    So fitting since Islam is highly deficient.

    Reply
    • Rarely says

      Oct 20, 2020 at 5:53 pm

      The evidence keeps piling up.

      Reply
    • Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

      Oct 20, 2020 at 7:09 pm

      When the “main crime” is insult and not a beheading, you know you’re dealing with a highly deficient human being.

      A powerful sentence that captures all too well the insanity of islam.

      Reply
  7. don vito says

    Oct 20, 2020 at 4:29 pm

    “the main crime had been the insults against the Prophet Muhammad. Arguing that the killing was a natural reaction to provocation, Abd Al-Karim criticized French President Emmanuel Macron for “encouraging” insults against Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. He said that if France wanted to stop such reactions, then it should stop offending Islam and its symbols”. As many already have posted about this atrocity, this kind of absurdity can’t go unchallenged or our liberty will become the ultimate insult, provocation or offence to islam. Remember, no evidence is required to be submitted to anyone or any thing, that a moslem has been offended, only an allegation of offence is need for an islamic vigilante’s action to be halal. Once, one offence is established, then a new one can be alleged, kufrs would not be able make sense of the alleged violations kufrs are alleged to have done. Drinking water from the same utensil as a moslem, could be enough for a kufr to be charged with blaspheme. And then beheaded by believers. Because as it says in the quote in my post, offending islamic symbols is also haram. Good luck to us kufrs.

    Reply
    • Fred van de Bunt says

      Oct 20, 2020 at 6:29 pm

      ” our liberty will become the ultimate insult, provocation or offence to islam.” It is, you unbeliever.

      Reply
      • don vito says

        Oct 20, 2020 at 9:34 pm

        Indeed our liberty is an offence to islam, those reading here are aware, but for the sake of the Nicole Arbours of this world stating the islamic beliefs and how it would affect the naive Nicole’s life needs to man-splained. Cheers.

        Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Oct 21, 2020 at 12:36 am

      +1

      Reply
    • James Lincoln says

      Oct 21, 2020 at 7:09 am

      don vito says,

      “our liberty will become the ultimate insult, provocation or offence to islam.”

      I’ll go further than that: it is just our *presence*…

      Reply
      • don vito says

        Oct 21, 2020 at 9:17 am

        No doubt about the presence of kufrs amongst islamikkk believers is offensive to the said believers, I wish the Nicoles of the world would wise up to islamikkk ideology’s danger to life, liberty, equality under law, and not go hiking in the Atlas mountains of her mind. ( reference Atlas mountains in morocco – two scandinavian women hikers beheaded by you know who).

        Reply
  8. Noel says

    Oct 20, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    For us, Christianity is a way of life and not politics.no one has the right to kill no matter the offense unless you worship the devil himself.Thimself.Those mad men killing others in the name blesphamy should be done away with from society.Also,let those senseless people leave them to their fate and not draw any pictures of any prophet because you will only get killed by blood thirsty demons waiting for the slightest provocation.

    Reply
  9. gravenimage says

    Oct 21, 2020 at 12:30 am

    Islamic scholar: Main crime was not the beheading, but the insults to Muhammad, and ‘we are winning this front’
    …………….

    Horrifying, but this is orthodox Islam.

    And Muhammad Abd Al-Karim is grimly right about dhimmitude in France and the rest of the West. But it looks now as though France may actually be standing up for freedom of speech. I sure hope so.

    One other point–notice that this pious Muslim claims that if Macron really believed in freedom of speech, that he’d be lauding the Nazis having murdered six million Jews. *Very* sick stuff.

    Reply
  10. vcragain says

    Oct 21, 2020 at 6:09 am

    I’m sorry Islam followers – you follow an IDEOLOGY not facts – it’s all in your own heads….just like any other BELIEF SYSTEM ! Just like Scientology followers – think about how you view THEM – that is all it is – EXACTLY THE SAME THING – an ideology, a following of a human who happened to persuade a group of other humans that what he was saying was TRUE – and now the rest of us are supposed to just FALL IN and accept that what he said is REAL ??? The whole thing makes me sick – there are valid reasons why we in the West do not just follow like sheep – we value comparative religion, we value justice for all, we value your right to believe whatever you decide is true FOR YOU, and my right to do the same !

    Reply
  11. James Lincoln says

    Oct 21, 2020 at 8:20 am

    Just to be clear, what do devout muslims think is the *worst* act to commit”

    a. Showing a cartoon of the “prophet” mohammed.

    b. Beheading someone for showing / drawing a cartoon of the “prophet” mohammed.

    Reply

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