A model of migrant integration shows that old attitudes die hard. My latest in FrontPage:
The facts at hand presumably speak for themselves, but a trifle more vulgarly, I suspect, than facts even usually do. The German-language news outlet TAG24 reported Wednesday that a man identified only as “Edris Z.” had carried out “a coldly planned revenge murder” against his former girlfriend, a “refugee aid worker had previously denounced the Afghan-born man under the Protection Against Violence Act.” This is horrific enough, but it gets even worse: Edris Z. was in the past hailed as a model migrant, and even dubbed an “Ambassador of Saxony.”
TAG24 states that Edris emigrated from Afghanistan to Germany in 1995, that is, well before Angela Merkel initiated the mass Muslim migration that has inundated Germany in the last few years. Back in 1995, some people might even have still been so hidebound as to expect that an immigrant would strive to assimilate and adopt the customs and mores of the country that had welcomed him. And indeed, it seemed for a time as if Edris Z. was a quintessential example of an assimilated migrant. According to TAG24, in 2006, when Edris had been in Germany for eleven years, former Saxon Prime Minister Georg Milbradt dubbed him an “ambassador of Saxony,” an honor that was given to Edris as a “prime example of successful integration.” The upstanding and exemplary young man was granted German citizenship in 2015.
But “on the morning of April 8, Myriam Z. (37 years old) put on her baby carrier, carefully put her two-and-a-half-month-old daughter Ava in it, and went for a walk in the southern Auwald forest. According to the indictment, Edris Z. was also staying there. Not by chance. But with a hammer in his backpack and the plan to kill someone.” Why? Because “Edris and Myriam were once a couple. Both worked as social workers in refugee aid. The young Afghan never got over the fact that the self-confident woman separated from him at some point. According to the investigation, Edris Z. has been stalking his ex-girlfriend since then. And he became violent: When Edris Z. saw Myriam in the company of another man in August 2018, he is said to have attacked him.”
The prosecution described “a wild biting attack, and the accused is also alleged to have attempted to gouge out the eyes of the migrant rival (25 years old) with his fingernails. The victim suffered severe injuries to his eyes and bite wounds all over his body, and a piece of his ear was also missing afterwards.”
After that, Myriam reported Edris and received a restraining order against him by means of Germany’s Violence Protection Act. However, TAG24 states that “apparently that was her death sentence. In the murder charges, prosecutors assume that Z. killed his ex-girlfriend in order to punish her for having reported him. The stalker therefore approached the young mother from behind and smashed her skull with the hammer.”
The ambassador of Saxony was exceptionally cruel: “Even when Myriam fell to the ground, she lay down protectively over her baby and therefore had no free hand to protect her head, but the defendant is said to have continued to thrash her. The prosecution lists at least ten blows, including four on the head, in relation to the forensic examination.”
One of the most commonly repeated elements of the Leftist/Islamic supremacist rap sheet against me, supposedly establishing that I am an “anti-Muslim extremist,” is that I said that there was no reliable way to distinguish between peaceful Muslims and jihadists, and no distinction between the two in Muslim communities. This statement doesn’t mean that all Muslims are terrorists; it means that peaceful Muslims aren’t separating themselves from the terrorists. All too many jihadis have operated freely in American mosques without being put out. After a Muslim who supported the Islamic State shot a police officer in Philadelphia, the local mosque leaders initially denied knowing him, but then it turned out they were lying, and the jihadi attended the mosque frequently. The same thing happened after jihadis attacked our free speech event in Garland, Texas: the mosque they attended in Phoenix denied knowing them, but it turned out they were regular members.
In a similar vein, this Edris Z. was hailed as an “ambassador of Saxony” for his success in assimilating into German society. But it seems as if he still carried within him some of the attitudes and assumptions created by a culture of violence that mandates the beating of women “from whom you fear disobedience” (Qur’an 4:34).
Yet no one could have predicted that this would happen, as there is, here again, no reliable way to distinguish between peaceful Muslims and violent ones. Instead of heaping abuse upon those who point this out, genuinely peaceful Muslims should be working hard to establish such a distinction.
Walter says
Fun fact: Myriam, the refugee aid worker, has a Muslim name too
b.a. freeman says
well, that’s no surprise. we have to remember that islam is a gangsta cult; its male members are the only ones who count, since the female members are property. since most muslims know only what their imams or ayatollahs tell them about islam, and since large numbers of muslims have had close contact with westernized people over the last 150 years, it should also be no surprise that quite a few muslims actually do assimilate, such as Miryam Z apparently did. no gangsta can allow w mere *woman* to leave him, especially if he is actually pious and only pretending to be assimilated, so he took the only course a gangsta can, which is to kill her. if he did not kill her, or at least beat her within an inch of her life, his fellow gangstas would lose respect for him … and in the gangsta cult, the respect of one’s peers is *EVERYTHING*. if one does not have that respect, one is seen as weak, and things can be taken from weak men.
so he killed her, and the court will sentence him to 2 or 3 years in prison. there he can recruit many more pious muslims, and when he gets out, he’ll have chops with his fellow gangstas. more importantly, from his perspective, they will fear his “strength” and be more careful not to cross him.
islam is *POISONOUS*.
gravenimage says
Muslim Migrant ‘Ambassador of Saxony’ Beats Woman to Death
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Quite an “ambassador”. Why do so many of these “moderate” Muslims turn out to be anything but? (A rhetorical question, of course).
James Lincoln says
According to the feature article, Robert Spencer says:
“…there was no reliable way to distinguish between peaceful Muslims and jihadists, and no distinction between the two in Muslim communities.”
A very inconvenient truth – and therein lies the problem…
Jayell says
“…..no distinction between (peaceful muslim and jihadists) in Muslim communities”……because all muslims are ipso facto ‘jihadists’ since jihad is an integral part of their ‘religion’.
They will remain ‘peaceful’ for as long as it suits them and then be mobilised/mobilise themselves at an appropriate time. Whilst muslims might not necessarily demonstrate open aggression in everyday life in the meantime, they will demonstrate passive aggression by (a) increasingly wearing islamic attire as a visible symbol of territorial occupation, (b) acquiring properties in ‘unenrched’ areas either overtly or covertly for ‘religious reasons’ as a means of staking their claims for territorial expansion into non-muslim areas, and (c) attempting to use established grievance strategies, usually invoking so-called ‘islamophobia’, as an inverted-supremacist means of acquiring overall social or even low-level political control.
These three methods of ‘peaceful jihad’ are above and beyond the now-very-apparent strategies of infiltration into the local and national establishments either (a) ‘honestly’ by declaring their muslim identity and but claiming to support the existing status quo (for as long as it suits their purposes), or (b) ‘dishonestly’ by claiming to have dissociated themselves from islam by being ‘agnostic’ or even ‘atheist’ and then reverting to type once in office (e.g., Sadiq Khan, ‘Mayor’ of London), or (c) obtaining control economically from outside the establishment through acquisition of real estate (e.g., excessive construction of mosques nationally within the UK or the acquisision of prime central London properties which has then been used subsequently used to influence the UK Government) or key internal commercial or media interests (e.g., the alleged Saudi acquisition of interests in a major UK daily paper which has consequently adopted a more pro-islamic stance, or alleged former Qatari links with UK Royalty) or (d) through financial loans which then might allow a degree of illegitimate political or ideological pressure to be exerted in some way (e.g., loans to build the HS2 rail link against the wishes of the majority of the British people).
All this has been allowed to happen because of some misguided belief (on the part of those who should know better) in the presumed ‘honesty’ and moral integrity of islam and its adherents, and a failure to appreciate that a ‘religion’ founded by an alleged ‘Prophet’ whose curriculum vitae bears a greater resemblance that of the leader of an organised crime syndicate, confidence trickster and fascist dictator combined rather than anything remotely to do with any genuine philosophical quest for an understanding of the Eternal Creator of the Universe.
Mason Stewart says
But you see Robert, the important thing is not to be “divided” by this, as Monsieur Macron would put it
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/10/an-important-lesson-in-multiculturalism.html?m=1
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/french-leader-macron-decries-islamist-terror-attack-teacher-13296298
Al says
This is allah too serious . Does The Guiness Book of records have a catagory for fastist beheading ?
Brando says
In Germany lives an EX-MUSLIM who is an atheist and has written against Islam.He is HAMEL ABDEL SAMAD,who arrived at age 23. He has written:
“The downfall of the Islamic world – A prognosis”(2010)
“War or peace – The Arab revolution and the future of the West”(2011)
“Muhammad – A final reckoning”(2015)
“Islamic Fascism”(2016)
Brando says
I forgot to add that Hamel Abdel Samad is from EGYPT
Brando says
I have noticed that the NEW generation of Muslim apologists: youtubers “The Muslim Skeptic” and MOHAMMED HIJAB and FARID RESPONDS have rejected the old,heads-down approach of denying and downplaying ideas like killing apostates, sex slaves,killing adulterers, lapidation,polygamy,burka,etc.
The most impressive one,from the intellectual point of view is “The Muslim Skeptic”/Daniel, who is an American,but whose parents were from Iran. He uses REDPILL data: I realized that when in his 4 hr debate with APOSTATE PROPHET about ISLAMIC LAW he use words like:
ALPHA MALE
EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY
HYPERGAMY
FYI says
muslim apologists have to work overtime to defend their cult:
‘allah’
A pagan Arab god {al Lah}who ADMITS to being a champion deceiver{koran 3:54} a god completely missed the purpose of the Law of Moses{=to OBEY it} and its meaning{=The Golden Rule Matthew 7 v12},a god who gets THEOLOGY wrong{koran 5:116 allah mistakenly has MARY in the Trinity which means allah is NOT Omniscient as an Omniscient God would KNOW that was wrong}has a Doctrine of HATE{al walaa wal baraa} and a discriminatory religious Apartheid system{koran 98:6}
muhammed
A ‘prophet’ who ADMITS to being a FALSE PROPHET{al tabari 6:111}who according to the koran’s own test of prophethood{koran 69:43-44,Sahih Bukhari 4428} is a FALSE PROPHET and who according to the Bible is a FALSE PROPHET{Deut 18 :20}which explains his fate.
so muhammed is a FALSE PROPHET according to the Bible,the koran,his own admission and the evidence that his silly prophecies are false
{See on You Tube..acts17apologetics who killed muhammed?}
the ‘holy’ koran
A ‘holy’ koran that has so many ERRORS in it[Historical,Logical,Theological,Scientific and even grammatical in the original Arabic} that by allah’s OWN criterion of perfection{koran 4:82},shows,in its errors,that it cannot come from God but must come from ‘other than allah’ which means it is 100% bogus.
muslim apologists play a few games.
1]The ‘oh you don’t know Arabic’ trick,a trick which won’t work with Arabic speakers[atheist/christian}
2]Attack the BIBLE..which is funny as allah CONFIRMS the Bible{koran 3:3} and tells muhammed{and thus}muslims to consult it{koran 10:94}There is no evidence of corruption in the Bible and muslims cannot prove there is.In fact there is a Wisdom source behind the Bible that is missing in islam.muslims don’t even know that!
3]change the topic/deflection
4]lying{constantly lying}
I have watched the excellent Apostate prophet{ex-muslim atheist}
Christian apologists like the Christian Prince,Rob Christian,David Wood & acts17 apologetics team and Hatun Tash are light years ahead of muslim apologists.
muslims post videos of how they win ‘debates’ but that is not so!
Linde Barrera says
To FYI- Thank you for this referential information.
And I am so sad that the murdered woman’s baby is without a mother. Very tragic.
Brando says
HATUN TASH is a TURKISH woman who used to be Muslim,and in 1 video of APOSTATE PROPHET,there were 2 other Turkish atheists,one was the leader of the Only Atheist Association in TURKEY and he said:
15% of Turks there are ATHEISTS and AGNOSTICS.
tgusa says
He was just one step away from becoming a muslim migrant ambassador for the UN.
Clifford Fodor says
A parable of Jesus: When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walks through dry places seeking rest. And finding none, he says, “I will return to my house where I came out.” And when he comes, he finds it swept and garnished. Then he goes and takes for him seven other spirits more wicked than himself. And they enter in and dwell there. And the last state of that man is worse than the first. (Luke 11:24-26)
Robin Rosenblatt says
Nothing new with that. They have been doing that for the 1600 years.
John J Dinan says
Problem is though, most of them are still living as though it IS the 1600’s.
Fred van de Bunt says
As far as I understand it is already for 1400 years that old attitudes seem to die hard.
That said, in the Netherlands government bureaucrats, with large amounts of government subsidies – subsidies to be spent by the same government bureaucrats- the government bureaucrats can make these 1400 years old attitudes disappear with government programs.
Government bureaucrats admit though, that these 1400 year old attitudes are quite sustaining. So they need more tax money to cure the 1400 year old attitudes. And more tax money, and more tax money…
Needless to say that the anti-radicalisation government programs involve lots of extremely high paid government officials, that are quite pleased to know that 1400 year old attitudes will die hard.
The Political Oracle says
Taqiyyah is committed when one is deliberately ignorant to the facts. When an imam knows about a crime before it occurs, he is guilty of accessory to the crime. We should be seeing hundreds of monster imams hauled into a jail cell for their willful ignorance of the law. It’s not sharia law, so it’s not law at all. The Germans would capitulate to the demands of islam and sharia law because their islamic masters demand open borders and the import of terrorism. The thing everyone should keep in their thoughts is the fact that ALL muslims owe their allegiance to Saudi Arabia before any other country. All Jewish adherents owe their allegiance to Israel before any other country. Christian adherents would owe their allegiance to the state where Jesus Christ died and rose. Ask a muslim who he owes his first allegiance. That’s how you tell.
b.a. freeman says
TPO, i am a born-again christian, but my first loyalty is to God (God the Word (Jesus) == God the Father == God the Holy Spirit), not to israel. i am an american, and i am loyal to the united states, but the u.s. may not remain a free nation, so i am a free man who is loyal to the constitution. the constitution is already being violated, but once one-party rule is established, and it is no longer safe to voice one’s opinion in public, i will no longer be a loyal american (although i will *STILL* be loyal to the principles and laws of the constitution). i believe that the NAZIcrats, who have been indoctrinating our children for decades now, will soon have enough indoctrinated/nominally-leftist voters to be able to legitimately elect enough state officials in enough states that they can steal all elections and ensure one-party rule forever. and that will be the end of the constitution and our freedom.
and BTW, i don’t have a denomination. i’m always learning new things from the bible (God often opens my eyes to the truth i happen to need at the time), and if a church happens to follow what i find in the scriptures, i worship with them. God leads me, not a human organization.
finally, i believe that most of the elites are only nominally leftist, because like most of us, most of them attended leftist-controlled “schools” from pre-kindergarten to post-graduate studies; most have been exposed to little of the truth, and have little in the way of critical-thinking skills. in other words, they are leftists only because they don’t know any better, and haven’t yet been educated by reality that leftism is 99.9999% bulls**t. the hard-core left doesn’t need to worry about that, though; they only need to have the nominally-left electorate put them into power, after which it will no longer matter if the nominally-left are educated in the school of hard knocks. and in fact, they *WILL* be so educated; they need only look at the histories of pre-WWII germany and italy (the commies operated differently than the fascists, and “progressives” are actually fascists), but of course, they have been, and won’t in the future, be looking.
OLD GUY says
With open borders this will come to a neighborhood near you. Muslims and islam seem to always bring out the violence in people.