When you have a religion that mandates death for heresy and apostasy, this kind of thing is going to happen in the “fort of Islam.”
“Muslim professor shoots dead fellow Pakistani academic after the two argued about their different religions,” by Clare McCarthy, Mailonline, October 5, 2020 (thanks to Inexion):
A Pakistani Muslim professor shot and killed another professor from the Ahmadi minority in the northwestern city of Peshawar, Pakistan on Monday.
Police said the shooting happened a day after the two allegedly had a heated discussion over a religious matter.
The attacker, identified as Professor Farooq Maad, and another gunman opened fire on the car of Professor Naeem Khattak as he was driving to his college, according to police official Siraj Ahmad.
Professor Khattak belonged to the minority Ahmadi faith, which was established in the Indian subcontinent in the 19th century by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, whose followers believe was a prophet.
Police said Khattak was killed by a fellow professor and another man a day after they had a verbal brawl over religious issues….
Saleem Uddin, a spokesman for Pakistan’s Ahmadi community, said Khattak had completed his doctorate in Zoology and was facing problems because of his faith.
In a statement, he said Khattak had received threats and he demanded protection for people belonging to their community.
‘The government has failed in providing protection to Ahmadis,’ he said….
Attacks on the country’s minorities, including Christians and Hindus, have increased since 2018, when the government of Prime Minister Imran Khan came into power, although Khan has repeatedly promised to safeguard their basic rights.
terry sullivan says
happens in uk
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
AHMADIS ARE A SECT OF ISLAM. PLEASE BE EXPLICIT IN THIS MATTER. THEY ALONG WITH VARIOUS OTHER SUB SECTS WITHIN ISLAM ACHEIVED PARTITION OF INDIA IN 1947, ON THE BASIS OF RELIGION, ISLAM. BOHRAS, AHMEDIS, SHIAS ALL CLAIM TO BE MUSLIMS. DO NOT CALL THEM MINORITIES IN PAK. THERE ARE OVER 70 SECTS AND SUB-SECTS OF ISLAM CO-EXISTING “PEACEFULLY” IN INDIA, ONLY IN INDIA.
gravenimage says
Ahmadis consider themselves to be Muslim–orthodox Muslims do not.
It is important to note that Muslims even murder their own.
Check Burry says
Their solution to everything is kill
mortimer says
If you have a disagreement with a Muslim about religion … count on the Muslim being in a rage. Count on the Muslim taking revenge on behalf of your slight to Islam.
Islam has a doctrine of RELIGIOUS RAGE called ‘gheira’ or ‘ghira’.
Prideful rage is a good thing in Islam, because it is a trait of Mohammed and Allah. Western people see it as a ‘madness’, but prideful rage is normative Islam, rather than an aberration. All Muslims are required to show prideful rage towards the dirty kufaar.
The ‘craziness’ of jihadists is not a pathology, but ‘assumed’ craziness, since it is acquired artificially by their imitation of a certifiable lunatic, Mohammed.
Ghira: This Arabic word covers a wide meaning – self-respect, jealousy (as regards women), and it is also a feeling of fury with great anger when one’s honour and prestige or that of Islam is challenged or injured.
Volume 9, Book 93, Number 512:
Narrated Al-Mughira:
Sa’d bin ‘Ubada said, “If I saw a man with my wife, I would strike him (behead him) with the blade of my sword.” This news reached Allah’s Apostle who then said, “You people are astonished at Sa’d’s Ghira. By Allah, I have more Ghira than he, and Allah has more Ghira than I, and because of Allah’s Ghira, He has made unlawful Shameful deeds and sins (illegal sexual intercourse etc.) done in open and in secret. And there is none who likes that the people should repent to Him and beg His pardon than Allah, and for this reason He sent the warners and the givers of good news. And there is none who likes to be praised more than Allah does, and for this reason, Allah promised to grant Paradise (to the doers of good).” ‘Abdul Malik said, “No person has more Ghira than Allah.”
Prideful religious rage is a good thing in Islam, because it is a trait of Mohammed and Allah.
gravenimage says
All grimly true.
Ray Jarman says
“Khan has repeatedly promised to safeguard their basic rights.” but as Majid Rafizadeh at Gatestone Institute has written:
“Many apologists say that Islam is a religion of peace. What they do not say is that, according to Islam, “peace” is to come only after all the world has converted to Islam. Until then, all the world is divided in two: dar al-Islam (“the House of Islam”), made up those who already believe, and dar al-harb (“the House of War”), made up of those who have yet to “believe”. If one is to follow the conclusions of doctrines based on jihad and sharia, after all the disbelievers believe, then there will be peace.”
Thereafter the former Ahmadi followers along with Christians, Hindus and all will have their basic rights guaranteed. If I had the opportunity to meet Khan, I would tell him that Islam is worse than the black plague, the Spanish Flue and COVID-19 combined for your cult has slaughtered more innocent people than Genghis Khan, Stalin, Mao and Hitler.
Mount Zion says
Anjiem Choudry the british Imam who is also a lawyer is the only Imam I have ever heard stating on national TV that Islam is not a religion of peace and then he goes on by saying that it will eventually become a religion of peace when the whole world has been brougt under the rule of Islam or Sharia . It’s not like this incident makes me more favorable towards Islam but I appreciate his honesty . At least on this matter he doesn’t engage in Taqquiya . Looks like Imram Khan when he promised to safeguard the basic rights of Ahmadis and others he is in full Taqquiya mode .
Ray Jarman says
Anjiem Choudry forgets that Libya, Iraq, Syria and other Islam dominated countries prove that Islam would destroy itself along with the rest of mankind. The tribalism created by the cult creates a contest of which group is more Islamic which in turn creates warfare against each other. The Ottoman empire was not destroyed by the west for it had already fallen into factions that fought with one another and became the “Sick Man of Europe” which was a misnomer since none of the entities were European. One can see in Thomas Hobbes where he described in “The Leviathan” as the last man alive because there was no one or government to protect every man against each other. Every man would try to be the best example of Allah’s perfect man.
gravenimage says
I don’t think pious Muslims care about this, so long as they can impose Islam on us.
gravenimage says
Other Islamic clerics have admitted that Islam is not a religion of peace. But few hopeful Infidels are paying attention.
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
Why on earth would you call, AHMEDIS, BOHRAS, SHIAS IN PAK, MINORITIES & equate them with HINDUS & CHRISTIANS. Why pray are you an apologist for ISLAM? Sects of ISLAM, ISSLAM is not a monolith, numerous sects, fighting and killing each other when they run out of Kafirs to kill.
gravenimage says
The claim that Anti-Jihadist Ray Jarman is an apologist for Islam is utter calumny. Citations, please.
delila says
And some imbecile wants to debate Christian Prince in a public debate.
gravenimage says
He may not be an imbecile, but a Muslim who wants to put him at risk.
European pagan says
Professor.《《
Everyone would believe that he is an intelligent person but no…
Westman says
Notice the rats nest of wires on the power pole next to the left bridge tower. Does anyone think a competent power company did that?
Somehow Islam can create the sense of an ummah while seriously reducing civil cooperation and adherence to civil law. It’s every man for himself until prayer call, followed by a show of ummah solidarity to the slave-master, then back to every man for himself. Why is this? Is it because Islam makes men into the snitches and judges of other men?
Obviously Professor Farooq Maad had no reservations about being an Islam vigilante. He planned and aquired help to assassinate Professor Naeem Khattak. No “mental illness”, no uncontrolled flash of anger, just pre-planned murder – all in the name of his religion, his only loyalty.
The Chinese government thinks it will have some control in Pakistan – a learning experience in the making when the “one belt” becomes one “belt in the nose”.
Peter Buckley says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcu2mTc9ja8
gravenimage says
Orthodox Muslims hate and murder Ahmadis.
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
CALL THEM AHMADI, BOHRA, SHIA, ET AL,72 OF THEM PRACTICING MUSLIMS. MUSLIMS NEED TO BE CALLED OUT AT EVERY POINT, DO NOT OBFUSCATE….SECTS OF ISLAM….CALL OUT REPEATEDLY OUT LOUD.. SECTS OF ISLAM.
gravenimage says
Where did I say that Ahmadis don’t consider themselves to be Muslim? Of course, I did not–I was not obfuscating anything. Reporting on Muslim-on-Muslim murder is also salient to the Counter-Jihad.
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
YOU SAID, AHMEDIS…AND CALLED THEM MINOROTY IN PAK. A COUNTRY CARVED OUT OF INDIA IN A BITTER BLOODY CONFLICT, ENGINEERED BY G. BRITAIN, LEAD BY REPEAT LEAD BY SHIAS, AHMEDIS, BOHRAS ETC… IN A JOINT EFFORT OF JIHAD. SECTS OF ISLAM. YOU SEE THE CONFLICTS IN MUSLIM WORLD… SECTS OF ISLAM FIGHTING EACH OTHER. KEEP HIGHLIGHTING THIS FACT. YOU EMPOWER ISLAM BY NOT CALLING OUT THIS FACET. SECTS OF ISLAM…
gravenimage says
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo, Ahmadis *are* a minority in Pakistan. Saying this does not somehow mean that I either support the horrors in Pakistan, nor their bloody history or constant aggression towards India. Citations, please.
That Ahmadis are a minority in Pakistan is a simple statement of fact. They make up about about .018% of the population there, and that is a small minority by any yardstick.
And your idea that Jihad terror is the fault of Great Britain is quite mistaken. If these millions of Muslims had remained in India, there is no reason to assume they would have been benign.
The truth is that Islam is savage to both Infidels and “other sect” Muslims. Why should we be silent about the barbarism of Islam?
How is Jihad Watch not calling this violence out? This makes no sense, I’m afraid.
FYI says
muslim professors,members of THE religion of ‘peace’ ,having an argument over their religion and one of them is murdered?
muslims don’t get Irony.
Where’s the Peace in “the Religion of Peace”?
islam just isn’t very peaceful is it?
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
(Thanks, Mortimer, for your discussion of gheira/ghira = religious rage.)
Another missing journaslistic W. *What* exactly were they arguing about? There is no description, and no citation of the Quran verses they quoted in support of their arguments. Bad journalism.
sidney penny says
“Attacks on the country’s minorities, including Christians and Hindus, have increased since 2018, when the government of Prime Minister Imran Khan came into power, although Khan has repeatedly promised to safeguard their basic rights.”
Safeguard basic rights of Christians and Hindus, What for? No such thing as basic rights for Christians and Hindus This is the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. We were created in 1947 for one reason only..
Pakistan is a failed state. One of the axil of evil.. Why it remains an ally of western countries today is astounding. Why aid (including military) is given to it is equally astounding.
Prime Minister Imran Khan came into power offering less corruption and more anti India.
.https://theconversation.com/how-the-partition-of-india-happened-and-why-its-effects-are-still-felt-today-81766
gravenimage says
Pakistan: Muslim professor murders Ahmadi professor after argument over religion
……………..
*Horrifying*–and this is a “professor”. Can you imagine a professor in the West doing any such thing?
God, I hate Islam.
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
PL SAY AHMEDI MUSLIM, A SECT OF ISLAM.
Ray Jarman says
Would you please stop using only uppercase. It is as annoying as your statements themselves. No one with common sense says Sunni Muslims or Shia Muslims, only Sunni or Shia in most cases. One other note; why are you too lazy to write entire words?
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
I am sorry, having offended you by using caps only. It was intentional I AM SHOUTING OUT LOUD, AND REPEATEDLY. I am deeply offended by you providing Fig leaves to Muslimes.
gravenimage says
This is the second time you have claimed that Anti-Jihadist Ray Jarman is whitewashing Islam. It is completely untrue.
And why are you offended by people here telling the truth about Muslims victimizing both Infidels and other Muslims? Anti-Jihadists believe that this should be widely exposed.
gravenimage says
I have noted that Ahmadis are a sect of Islam many times. What are you screaming about here?
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
Say AHMEDI MUSLIMS. Do not call them minorities & do not equate them with Hindus.
gravenimage says
Minority just means they do not make up a majority, which is quite accurate. I did not otherwise equate them with Hindus. And Hindus are not a minority everywhere–certainly not in India.
Your constant demands that everyone use the exact phrasing you yourself would is just getting tedious.
You might oppose Jihad terror yourself, instead of just castigating good Anti-Jihadists here–even going so far as to ludicrously claim they are pro-Islam.
infidel says
These Ahmedias are living a great life in India shielded from the vile Sunnis..becoz of Hindus… and yet these Ahmedias hate Hindus.
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
Spot on. Over 72 sects of ISLAM in India, …..
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Infidel.
Giacomo Latta says
Welcome to Pakistani-style democracy. Only preferable in comparison with Antifa-style street thuggery.
gravenimage says
Actually, Pakistan is worse, Giacomo. Luckily. Antifa does not rule any nations.