“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)
Making sure that Christians “feel themselves subdued” is a divine command for Muslims.
“Christian Woman in Pakistan Beaten in Public for Arguing with Muslim,” International Christian Concern, October 21, 2020:
10/21/2020 Pakistan (International Christian Concern) – According to local reports, a Christian woman was beaten in public by a Muslim man in Sangla Hill, located in Pakistan’s Punjab province, in an incident of religious hatred. The Christian victim filed a police report against her attacker, but no arrest has been made to date.
On October 12, Balqees Bibi, a Christian woman from the Ward 3 neighborhood of Sangla Hill, stood in the street and called out to a relative using his Christian name. According to Bibi’s son, Khuram, this used of a Christian name annoyed a local Muslim man named Muhammad Abass Butt.
“Abbas was full of religious hatred against my mother,” Khuram told International Christian Concern (ICC). “He often expressed his anger against Christians in the street, but everyone ignored him to avoid disputes.”
On October 12, Abass was annoyed hearing Bibi call out a Christian name and decided to confront her.
“Abbas started abusing my mother saying ‘Oh choori! Shut your mouth!’,” Khuram reported. “When she argued with him, he slapped her and dragged her into the street.”…
As Abbas beat Bibi, he also used an extremely derogatory slur for Christians which labels them as untouchables.
After the attack, Bibi and her family registered a police complaint against Abbas (FIR # 372/20). However, there [sic] police have yet to arrest Abbas or his son who reportedly joined his father in beating Bibi.
Robin Searle says
He needs a public slapping!
CogitoErgoSum says
Mr. Butt? HA!
Boycott Turkey says
Seems if your a Christian in Pakistan it’s ok to do anything you like to a Christian beat them steal there children and rape how disgusting to abuse a women like that I feel for the poor family they hate Christians but they no problem in excepting Financial aid from Christian countries Pakistan needs to sanctioned and thrown out of cricket imran Khan should be tried for war crimes and persecution of Christians. I’m fed up with his hypocrisy he cries for Muslims right in India but persecuted Christians and Hindus.
gravenimage says
+1
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
How incredible, Pakistan have decimated/killed millions of HINDUS in Pakistan and BANGLADESH, & are continuing the HINDU Genocide started ~1400 years back.
For the self appointed guardians of civilised world HINDU LIVES DO NOT MATTER ! THEY ARE FIT TO BE KILLED, RAPED &/OR PREFERABLY HARVESTED !!!!
b.a. freeman says
sadly, AKG, india has probably suffered the most murders of innocents by the ummah (the estimates i have found range from 100 million to 270 million) than any other nation on the planet, yet the uneducated, ignorant elites of eurabia, amrikistan, canadastan, etc., aren’t even aware of continuing attacks on hindus *TODAY*. the only time they take notice of muslims in india is when the ummah screams “VICTIM,” as with the recent passing of the CAB bill, which allows illegal immigrants who were religious refugees from pakistan, bangladesh, and afghanistan (all MUSLIM-majority s**tholes) to become indian citizens. these people ESCAPED the muslim toilet nations, running for their very lives, yet the muslims screamed, and f***ing nazi websites like CNN.com and VOX.com obligingly published articles claiming that muslims were left out of the bill because the BJP is hindu-supremacist.
our “betters” here in amrikistan believe that i and other americans are too stupid to use the internet to figure out what is going on in the world. they believe that nobody here in the u.s. (and also in european nations, canada, australia, etc.) will learn anything about the lying, thieving, raping, child molesting, murderous a**hole muhammed and his sock-puppet fake god, allah. they think that we don’t know how to check english-language websites in other countries, or to use translation websites to translate articles not in english. unfortunately, most of us have been indoctrinated in leftist-controlled “schools” (indoctrination centers) that don’t teach critical thinking, so most of us accept what the lying leftist propaganda sites publish uncritically.
the majority of the hindu elites in india may be waking up; the success of the BJP and the passing of the CAB are hopeful indicators.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
“He often expressed his anger against Christians in the street, but everyone ignored him to avoid disputes.”
My observation is that nothing divides people like islam, nothing incites hate and terror like it does. Of course people of any religion can be bigoted and often are, but islam brings it to a whole new level with the breadth and depth of evil it brings. We’ve heard a thousand times in our lives the importance of getting a good education, but so few speak of the consequences of a bad education in islam, a religion that teaches the foulest ideas as godly truth. What kind of stupid shit is that? And then when that crank religion inspires an ISIS army and mass terror our politicians smile like a crooked car salesman and say, “Islam is peaceful; and oh yeah, if you see something, say something.” Stop with the double talk. Just come out and tell it like it is: the islamic religion is morally retarded and violent and a real world threat to our nation’s peace and security. If all these terrorists are “mentally ill” and “don’t represent islam” then what’s your excuse for allah and muhammad? the two founders of islam who were themselves mass murderers and psychopaths. Are you going to tell us they didn’t represent the “true” islam when they were the ones that started that living hell? Holy cripes, it shouldn’t be that a dummy like me has to instruct our “educated” leaders on how to be honest about an obvious evil against our people and nation. It’s fairly simple, don’t enable and empower their evil agenda with lies, and don’t encourage more terror by lauding their violent religion as a religion of peace. Don’t be a stupid c*nt for an ideology that’s more dangerous than Nazism and Communism, care enough about our freedoms to stand against an obvious enemy that threatens to destroy western civilization. Churchill warned about people like them when he said, “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile – hoping it will eat him last.” We don’t want appeasement for a demonic ideology or the lost people who live it, we want to be proud of our nation and her freedoms, and the people who gave their lives in its defense.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Please excuse the italics. Not intended. 🙁
john smith says
First class post, AAP.
b.a. freeman says
first of all, this is a *VERY* long post, and i apologize for its length. i feel that it is important to expose the evil of islam and the left, though, so i rant away anyhow. if U’re not interested, don’t bother reading any further.
AAP, i don’t think that our “betters” are stupid. *all* of them are smart, knowing at the very least how to manipulate those around them, or they wouldn’t be where they are. i believe that 99.9% of them were, like most of us, educated in what used to be public schools, and are now leftist indoctrination centers. educators today – even in most private schools – do *NOT* teach critical thinking skills, and most of what they teach, other than math and science, is leftist propaganda and lies. when people don’t know how to handle a situation, they tend to look to others for solutions, and throughout most of history, the people to whom they went were mostly honest (i’m leaving thieves and politicians out). unfortunately, the “smart” people to whom our elites go when they don’t understand a situation are almost exclusively hard-core leftists, and leftists have no problem telling lies.
when a person learns something from somebody else that isn’t true, but doesn’t verify what he is told, there can be only 2 outcomes. if the real-world consequences of acting on false information are immediate and serious enough, the person will usually learn to always check information from the source of the false information (or at least to check it after a couple of painful failures); if, OTOH, there are no immediate consequences, the person will continue to believe the false information (why check what U already know, *especially* when it’s not of immediate interest?), and the strength of that belief will likely grow with the passing of time. if i live in a gated community far from the banlieue where muslim gangsta culture holds sway, i can easily believe that islam is peaceful, as professor allahu ahkbar, my university professor of islamic history, told me, or i can even contact him for clarification. in any case, it would be easy for me to believe that islam is peaceful, because somebody whose opinion i respect (because i don’t know any better) assured me that it is. uneducated people like this *fill* the ranks of government, legacy media companies, and social media companies. they are dupes, or better yet, as lenin called them, “useful idiots.”
the legacy media in decades past used to actually report as many facts as possible in news stories, and put their opinions in their editorial sections. now the legacy media publishes propaganda as news. social media also only allows leftist propaganda to be published. why would this be? what has happened to us?
starting in the 1870s or so in eurabia, and in the 1970s here in amrikistan, socialists began to take control of universities. they began to lie to their students, and since there were no immediate consequences to those lies, most of the students, all of whom expected their teachers to tell them only TRUE things (especially because they were f***ing PAYING for that service), took their professors at their word. most of them did not become hard-core leftists, both because true hard-core leftists are secretive about their associations and don’t easily take to newcomers without street cred, and because most young people aren’t too interested in politics. because they were exposed almost exclusively to intense leftist indoctrination, however, they came out of university being nominally leftist. the new primary- and secondary-school teachers who graduated in the 1980s thus started teaching leftist ideas, and by the 1990s, the conquest of amrikistani education was complete. virtually *ALL* graduates of *ALL* schools at *ALL* levels are now at least nominally leftist, and these people are now staffing both legacy media, social media, and government positions. some young people, of course, manage, for various reasons, to avoid the leftist propaganda, but such young people are becoming more rare, and the numbers of nominal leftists are growing, as indicated by the fact that some 3 million *more* people voted for ms. clinton in 2016 than voted for mr. trump. this was in spite of the fact that ms. clinton is an alinskyite leftist who got away with exposing top secret documents to the internet because she didn’t give a rat’s a** about security (which, as a former holder of a secret clearance, i can assure U would have resulted in anybody else in her position being immediately fired, and possibly being charged under the espionage act). it won’t be but about another 10 years of so before the NAZIcrats start winning almost all elections, and will therefore control the national government at all levels in perpetuity (or at least until civil war II).
all this begs the question of *WHY* the left would do this when they already control the nation. the answer is simple, once U understand what the left wants. socialists always want the “smart” people to run the nation, because the experts always know best. a leader in a republic can *never* get 100% of the people behiid a policy, but socialists see those who oppose their policies as troublemakers, and therefore prefer that the decisions of their experts be driven by the force of law, so that 100% of the people will obey their decisions (those who still disobey are criminals and can be treated as such). socialists have also believed, ever since marx, that a New Socialist Man can be created, so that all New Socialist Men will be satisfied with giving everything to the State and expecting nothing in return. socialism sounds nice (“from each according to his abilities, and to each according to his needs”), but there are always 2 problems with the New Man approach.
first, and most significantly, human nature, which has been created by evolution (which God controls), ensures that every human looks out for himself first and foremost; if he does not, he is far more likely to *DIE* and leave no descendants. such a species would most likely have died out in prehistoric times. it is not very likely that a New Socialist Man can be created by State decree, or even by diligent indoctrination. once a group of workers figures out that the laziest worker gets just as much from the State as the hardest worker, all of them will soon be doing no more work than the laziest worker is doing. extra work consumes extra calories, and gets one nothing. thus, productivity falls dramatically, and can only be increased by physical threats. physical threats, however, only cause increased productivity so long as the boss is looking; as soon as they can be unobserved, the workers will go back to doing no more work than the laziest worker does. and the laziest worker will do no more work than he is forced to do.
the second problem with the New Man approach is that when the experts take over (and the constitution is treated with no more significance than the platform document of a poliltical party), the most effective partisans will always be the ones who use the most violence. this happens whether the single socialist Party in control is commie or nazi. and because these partisans are so effective, they will get the fastest promotions within the party. the initial socialist leaders are usually relatively benign, in that they don’t immediately start shooting people, but the thugs they promote *do* kill people, and the closer they get to the top of the organization, the more likely they are to kill the more-benign leaders and take their power. and of course, the socialist party, whether commie or fascist, ends up being a fascist dictatorship that kills its citizens who step out of line.
so what does this have to do with islam? well, as i noted above, our socialist elites are not stupid. the hard-core left is numerically small, and the populace would not abide an all-out attack on the government, nor could the hard-core left put an army into the field to conquer the government, so they are doing the next-best thing: they are importing muslims into the nation, knowing that roughly 10% of any group of muslims are guaranteed to be pious, and that pious muslims will make self-motivated attacks on the host nation. the left need to supply anything to the pious ummah, nor need they even communicate with them; it’s rather like punching a hole into the bottom of a boat; after punching the hole, no effort need be expended to get water to flood the boat. in other words, the pious ummah serves the hard-core left as a proxy army *RELIGIOUSLY* dedicated to *destroying* the host nation. AND THAT IS *E*X*A*C*T*L*Y* WHAT THE LEFT WANTS TO HAPPEN.
thus, almost every single western and westernized free nation faces a two-pronged attack from both the left and the ummah. our eyes have been poked out by the left, and the ummah makes random terror attacks on us; when it becomes too dangerous to carry out the tasks of ordinary life, the society will collapse, and the left plans to take control. they think that they can kill all the muslims before they organize enough to be dangerous, but they don’t understand the power of a religious belief. islamic beliefs are breathtakingly EVIL, but those who hold them believe them to their core, and are not only *willing* to die for their religion, they *WANT* to die for it. how many nominal leftists (let alone the far lower number of hard-core leftists) actually *WANT* to die for their cause? the ummah would almost certainly come out on top in that fight.
we who are still free need to spend as much time as possible reaching out to the nominally-left. they aren’t evil, they are only deluded. we will probably have to take to arms at some point, but that should NOT be our ultimate goal; war is evil, and innocents ALWAYS die in war. if it comes, we must fight, but if we reach enough people before things get too bad, we have a chance of avoiding a civil war. we *are* in a 1400-year war with islam, but our goal should be to stop the hijrah, and throw out anybody who consorts with the enemy (and if citizens are pious musliims, they are the enemy, and need to have their citizenship revoked and to be deported to the s**thole muslim nation of their choice). that *might* give us time to repair the damage to the nation by educating our young to love freedom and their own culture. pray for the s**t-eating cult of islam to be destroyed, and for leftism to be seen as the childish wishful thinking that it is.
b.a. freeman says
typo:
“… the left need TO supply anything to the pious ummah …”
should be
“… the left need NOT supply anything to the pious ummah …”
ABDUL NASSER SALIFU says
*A German Muslim scholar when he was asked about TERRORISM and Islam. He said. “Who started the first world war? Not Muslims!! Who started the second world war? Not Muslims!! Who killed 6 million Jews in the Holocaust ? Not Muslims. Who killed about 20 millions of Aborigines in Australia ? Not Muslims!! Who sent the nuclear bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Not Muslims!! Who killed more than 100 millions of Indians in North America? Not Muslims!! Who killed more than 50 million of Indians in south America? Not Muslims!! Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves and 88% of them died and were thrown overboard into Atlantic ocean? Not Muslims!! No, NOT Muslims!! First of all, You will have to define terrorism properly. If a non-Muslim does something bad. It is crime. But if a Muslim commits the same. He is a Terrorist. So first remove this double standards. Then come to the point. I am proud to be a MUSLIM !! ARE YOU?? SPREAD THIS Message & don’t BREAK THE CHAIN!!*
Boycott Turkey says
Who massacred 3 million Christians in WW1 in Turkey in 1915 ? Arab Muslims enslaved and killed Africans to also millions of Hindus where massacred in India by the Moguls you mention slavery Turks enslaved millions of Slavs Greeks Armenians and stole there children what do you mean don’t break the Chain? We will break the chain from Islamic terrorism and slavery WE WILL BREAK THE CHAIN
gravenimage says
Firstly, note that Abdul Nasser Salifu has *no* problem with the abuse of Christians and other non-Muslims in Dar-al-Islam. But then, this should not surprise–this is orthodox Islam.
Then, Muslims were waging Jihad terror for over 1300 years by the time of the first world war. Then, the Caliphate–the Ottoman Empire–used this time to wipe out over a million and a half Christians in the Armenian Genocide–almost Turkey’s entire Christian population.
This atrocity was used as the model for the Holocaust by Hitler, and urged by the Mufti of Jerusalem. Hitler also admired Islam as a pitiless martial creed.
Then, Muslims laud Hitler for having murdered Jews–he is a hero in the Muslim world. Worse yet, Muslims regularly taunt Jew by screaming “Jews to the gas!” and vows to finish the job that Hitler started.
The bombs used in Japan were used to end the fight against Fascism–*of course* this Muslim decries the fight against tyranny.
The West has admitted its wrongs in the treatment of native peoples–note that Muslims *never have*. Also note that the figure here has been grotesquely inflated–there are no scholars who have given a greater estimate than 100 million for the entire pre-colombian population of the Americas, North and South–and even this figure is a high-end outlier. Moreover, most Native Americans who died fell victim to old world diseases, *not* violence.
But the most grotesque claim here is re slavery. The Muslim Arab slave trade was many times the size of the Atlantic slave trade, and both preceded and outlasted it. Muslim slave traders also enabled the Atlantic slave trade–Atlantic slave traders captured few slaves on their own. Then, this number is also inflated–the entire toll of the Atlantic slave trade is about 10.5 million–still horrifying, but *nothing* like the 180 million this Muslim claims–twelve times the actual number. Then, about 15% died during the passage–again, an appalling number, but nothing like the 88% he claims. But Muslims castrated most of the men and boys they took for their own slaves, and an estimated 90% of those did not survive the journey.
Most of all, though, the West *abolished* slavery–the Muslim world never has, and enslaves victims to this day, especially in Africa. An estimated 17% of Mauritanians are enslaved–Muslims also enslave victims in Sudan and other parts of the Sahel and sub-Saharan Africa. The first thing the Islamic State did was institute slavery.
Notice that this Muslim apologist has *nothing* to say against this. But then, why would he? The “Prophet” Muhammed himself was a slaver.
Then he tries to whitewash the horrors of Jihad terror–hoping that we don’t know that there have been over 37,000 Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11.
No one has ever said that all suffering in human history has been due to Muslims–but they have a blood-soaked history and are certainly responsible for most violence today.
Abdul Nasser Salifu may be proud of this savagery, but no civilized person is.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Good points Graven, and nicely written. Muslim apologists rarely if ever offer anything worth responding to, but sometimes I feel the need to respond anyway if the poster seems sincere and isn’t simply trolling. I don’t doubt that Abdul truly believes his comment is a worthy defense of islam. It isn’t, but it seemed a notch above the usual flaming retardation we so often get.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Agostino.
And I agree–what we get here from Muslims is usually even more pathetic than the above effort. Two primary reasons for this–the first being that Islam rejects reason. The second is even more disturbing–most pious Muslims don’t believe they need to offer arguments at all, but can just turn to violence to enforce their supremacy, as in the appalling story above.
James Lincoln says
gravenimage says,
“…Islam rejects reason.”
Yes.
Can you imagine – for us as people who use factual evidence-based logic – what it would be like if we were forced to reject reason because of a religious/political ideology?
Absolutely unbearable…
john smith says
Thank you GI, for this very informative post.
gravenimage says
Thank you, James and John.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
I’m going to accuse you of the “You too” fallacy, or Tu quoque, Abdul. You’re trying to discredit our valid objections to the crimes and immorality of islam by accusing us of hypocritically applying moral judgements that, you hope, will render our argument false. But the moral character of other nation’s and cultures in history does not make the ugly truth about islam any less ugly or truthful. If you truly care about crime and religious bigotry then you would condemn those bad acts in islam as well as others. By analogy, imagine if one of your loved ones got murdered, and in response I gave you a rant about all the murder that has occurred in history, and that it’s wrong, therefore, for you to judge the killer of your loved one. But that would be unfair of me, because the important point is you’ve lost a loved one to murder, and that’s an evil that needs to be addressed all on its own and without any encumbrance from the dirty deeds of others in history. And that’s basically what you’re saying here, that we should agree with your Red Herring tactic and be more concerned about the naughty stuff that others have done, and not be so judgmental about the crime and suffering that islam causes. In a different forum it may make perfect sense to place the horrific crimes of islam in the larger context of the world’s greatest evils in history. But in this forum our primary focus is on the crimes of islam which are monumentally bad all on their own, and in no way does that mean I or anyone else condones or dismisses the crimes of others simply because we do this.
I hope that clears it up for you, Abdul. Peace 🙂
gravenimage says
+1
James Lincoln says
Agostino Armo Pellegrini,
Perfectly stated, my compliments.
infidel says
Very conveniently forgot the brutal pogrom of Hindus in India by the sword of Jehaad. U are a Maaderchod Abdul.. a pakka MC
Hindu Kafir says
So you would comfortably ignore how ‘mountains’ of Hindu skulls were piled in India during the barbaric rule of Islam, how our beautiful temples were razed, how Hindus were tortured for centuries, huh?
Stop playing the victim card, and realise that the worst threat to the world is Islamic Terror.
b.a. freeman says
who killed anywhere from 100 million to 270 million hindus, and destroyed THOUSANDS of temples, in india? muslims! who STARTED the chattel slavery of africans 1000 years before the europeans got involved, and captured roughly 3 to 5 times the number of slaves forced across the atlantic? muslims! who castrated their male prisoners so that they would have no chance to (oh, the horror!) impregnate their captor’s women? muslims! and how many of those castrated captives survived the castration and overland travel? about 20% to 25% of them, or, since 11 million africans arrived in america, and 5 times that many died on the trip over (about 66 million overall), that would be 25% AT MOST of ~300 million, or about 75 million. and how many babies born to african sex slaves survived to adulthood? 0%, because muslims didn’t want mixed-blood arabs!
and in case U didn’t know it, islam is arab-supremacist; see https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/12/superiority-of-the-race-of-arabs-over-non-arabs/.
islam is a sick, perverted, poisonous piece-of-s**t f***ing pirate/death cult, and it MUST be eradicated (and note that this does NOT mean the elimination of muslims!) for civilization to survive.
mortimer says
In the past, part of the ritual of delivering the JIZYA to the Islamic ruler was to grab the Christian by his beard or collar and then SLAP his face in order to demonstrate that the DHIMMI was subdued to Islam.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer–along with a cuff along the jaw in a symbolic beheading. Ugly, ugly stuff.
gravenimage says
Pakistan: Muslim slaps Christian and drags her into street for calling out to a relative using his Christian name
…………………
Just repulsive–this is the abuse that Muslim mete out to any non-Muslims in their power. *Ugh*.
Boycott Turkey says
That’s why we must never let Islam take over more non Muslim countries Islam is hell on earth
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
OLD GUY says
Do you want to live in a country like that? If not you better take time to make sure your country stops the Muslim/Islamic migration invasion buy closing your borders. The Muslim/Islamic leadership knows they cannot militarily invade most non-islamic countries, so they are doing it through migration of mostly young men who will disrupt the host countries society.
John Allan says
‘… local Muslim man named Muhammad Abass Butt.’
Abass Butt! With that name, I’m surprised that he doesn’t get p_ssed off more often!