The two policemen who tried to snatch the Qur’an away from the burner said that they were trying to “keep order in the square.” Would they have been so anxious to do so if the man had been trying to burn a Bible? Or is this yet another example of Western authorities bowing to violent intimidation and enforcing Sharia blasphemy laws because they’re too weak and cowardly to stand up for the freedom of expression?
“VIDEO: Here, the police intervene against Koran burners at the Riksdag,” translated from “VIDEO: Här ingriper polisen mot koranbrännare vid riksdagen,” Samhällsnyt, October 23, 2020 (thanks to Kevin):
On Friday, a memorial service was held in Stockholm for teacher Samuel Paty, who was beheaded in France after showing cartoons of Muhammad in his lesson on freedom of expression. The ceremony included a Koran burning outside the Riksdag. When the organizer began, however, two policemen intervened and tried to snatch the book from him, on the pretext that they wanted to “keep order in the square”. The organizer was notified of suspicion of incitement against an ethnic group, but eventually managed to set the book on fire.
On Thursday, Samhällsnytt was able to announce that the Stockholmer, anonymous for his own safety, who organized the so-called Koran football game outside the Riksdag at the end of September, would now visit the power center again and oppose the Police Authority’s claims that it is forbidden to hold Islamophobic demonstrations with Koran burning.
At twelve o’clock, the organizer began his demonstration on Mynttorget and was quickly surrounded by people who wanted to show their support, but also press photographers who documented the gathering. When the organizer started lighting the Koran with the Riksdag in the background, two police officers intervened and asked the organizer what his purpose was.
The officers were met by verbal protests from the people who had gathered at the site to support the rally and said they refused to be denied the right to express their opinions and burn a book that they themselves possess. The police were asked to identify themselves, which they did, and then began to talk about the crime of opinion incitement against ethnic groups.
The police on the spot were called “opinion police” and were asked what crime the organizer was accused of and why, but the police could not or did not want to discuss that. The organizer presented a decision from the Public Prosecutor’s Office that a previous investigation concerning incitement against ethnic groups for having “desecrated the Koran” had been closed. The police took a few steps back and let the burning of the book continue.
The organizer of Samhällsnytt: “Suspected of incitement against ethnic group”
After the organizer finished burning the Koran and cleaned up the remains of the book, he thanked people for stopping by. When he then left the square, the “opinion police” ran after him and he was ordered to identify himself.
– They notified me of suspicion of incitement against an ethnic group even though I showed the prosecutor’s decision from a previous violation, the organizer says.
Kesselman says
Clearly, the authorities are bewildered. On the one side, they have rules against harassment of ethnic minorities, and on the other side a violent minority holding supremacy sentiments towards other ethnic groups such as Jews and—yes, Swedes. How to balance this cognitive dissonance? That’s a dilemma all of the Western worlds are wrestling with! Fools, as they are, the Swedish government is the last to find out.
Tayloch says
“Suspected of incitement against ethnic group”
FFS, Sweden/Norway/France/UK/USA, et al, Islam is NOT a race nor an ethnicity. It’s a CULT!
Jayell says
No, we haven’t fallen for that one in the UK, even though the muslim community and their friends in the corrupt media try it on from time to time.
LB says
From time to time? More like ALL THE TIME! Didn’t investigation into muslim pedo rape gangs got shelved because of “racism” just the other day? What race is islam again?
If you dare criticize islam (and by extension — the muslims), you are racist. That is the official narrative in the media and leftist Western governments. I have no recollection of any point in time when that wasn’t the case these past 5-10 years.
maria says
Exactly. And a terrible anti human cult
abad says
Naw, it’s easier for the liberal media to make blanket statements like being agiainst Islam is racist. PMSL
CogitoErgoSum says
My understanding is that the Koran is supposed to be a book for ALL the people of the world. Aren’t the police showing how racist they are in believing that burning the Koran discriminates against one particular ethnic group? What other religion in the world is for only one particular ethnic group – and not considered racist itself because of that?
Don Campbell says
Much as I understand the anger of the Swedes, actions like this will simply play into the hands of Muslims, who will feel even more justified in their depredations against the West. The reason they have been so successful in making inroads into civilized countries lately is that God appears to be using them to scourge us for our lack of belief in him. Certain Catholic mystics predicted this, one such mystic, Marie Julie Jahenny, having done so in some detail over 100 years ago.
Say what you like about Muslims, at least they pray often to God and ask for his help. Even if their faith and concept of God are defective, or downright blasphemous, right now they seem to be his instrument, the way Nebuchadnezzar was in the Old Testament, a non-believer God used to scourge and chasten Israel. God used the nations to chastise his chosen ones many times in the bible.
The ONLY WAY out of Islam’s domination of the West is by returning to Jesus Christ. If we don’t do this, the successes of Islam will come to seem irreversible. Repent and humble yourselves before God. The alternative really is very much worse.
CogitoErgoSum says
I do not believe Muslims pray to the same god as Christians do. I have explained my reasoning many different times before. I think Christians should be able to figure it out for themselves if they read the Bible and then read the Koran. I suggest all Christians (and even those who are not) do just that – but it does take a bit of hard work.
Finn N says
In no way is “Allah” the God of the Bible. Allah hates, curses, consigns to hell and sics jihad upon Jews and Christians (Koran). So Allah is only 7th century Islam’s deity.
gravenimage says
+1
Keith O says
CES, I have studied as part of my shamanism various religions and believe you are correct.
What we know is that various spirits interfere with human activity, mainly as a means of obtaining energy to survive. These dark spirits thrive off negative energy, hate, fear etc.
So when you look at the amount of this that is generated by Islam then,,,yeah!
I don’t like to draw comparisons from the Christian Bible, however they describe Satan as “the great deceiver”. A nasty dark spirit and this is what I suspect Allah is, Simply a nasty dark spirit that thrives off all the pain and suffering it gets dumb humans to inflict upon each other.
And when the founder of this belief system was an uneducated peasant with an inferiority complex and dark tendencies toward kids, then this simply made the job easier for Allah to do it’s nasty work.
When we stop looking at Allah as their God and start understanding it’s true nature as something that strokes the ego’s of sick individuals, then dealing with Islam becomes all the more important.
abad says
+2
gravenimage says
So Don Campbell doesn’t believe that anyone should be able to criticize the horrors of the Qur’an. Just appalling. This crushing of freedom of speech, despite what he urges, helps no one except Jihadists.
The idea that “praying to God”–really, “Allah”–when those prayers call for attacks on Christians and Jews and other unbelievers is mitigated because this is is prayer is just sickening.
Then, the belief that Muslims attacking and slaughtering good people–including beheading the teacher in France–makes them God’s instruments is troubling. Does Don Campbell think that France and Sweden would be better places is taken over by savage Muslims and the rule of brutal Shari’ah law?
Michael Copeland says
“Allah, oh our Lord, vanquish Your enemies, enemies of the religion in all places. Allah, strike the Jews and their sympathizers, the Christians and their supporters, the Communists and their adherents. Allah, count them and kill them to the last one, and don’t leave even one.”
— Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas), Palestinian Media Watch, 3 December 2010.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2018/01/in-their-own-words/
gravenimage says
+1
JamesC. says
Isaiah 10 describes the Assyrian king Sennacherib as “the rod of God’s anger” against His Chosen People, the Jews, because of their sins.
That was not a ratification or defence of Assyrian religion, or of Sennacherib, but a theological explanation for the Jews of why Sennacherib was being allowed to attack and devastate Judah.
If I understand the OP’s post, he is merely drawing on the same kind of thinking. Alien as it may be to some people. The point being, that God uses His People’s enemies to punish the sins of His People, not because the enemies intend what God intends, but because God in His Wisdom and Providence works by means of the human plans of the enemies, so that their freely willed purpose fulfils God’s purpose. They are not puppets – but they are, even though without knowing it, the instruments of God’s Will. No tyrant, whether Sennacherib, Nebuchadnezzar, Nero, Mohammed, Hitler, Kim Jong Un, Xi Jin Ping or any other, however humanly irresistible, can operate beyond what God permits – and however much they may fight against God, their plans only end by fulfilling His Purpose. These revolting crimes are not meaningless – but whether they are a wake-up call or a death-knell to France, depends on what France makes of them.
That is a very long way from defending what jihadis and other Muslims do. Such a suggestion does not in the least imply “that France and Sweden would be better places if taken over by savage Muslims and the brutal rule of Shari’ah law”. What he is saying, implies the very opposite. If they did take over – and that seems not unthinkable, to judge from how things are going – then, given that passage in Isaiah 10, that explanation for such an event seems as reasonable as any.
gravenimage says
James, Don Campbell is condemning Infidels from saying anything negative about Islam and is lauding Muslims for “praying to God”, even though that prayer is calling for the slaughter of Christians and other Infidels.
Ian McKe says
‘Say what you like about muslims……’ That’s the problem, though. You can’t say what you like about muslims just in case it’s something they take offence at (i.e. everything). So we need to keep saying it, loudly and often!
Kepha says
It has crossed my mind that the current Furor Islamicus may well be God’s means of chastising a Western world that has received so much yet flouts every line of the Decalogue. Isaiah 10 has weighed heavily on my mind for a number of years. But I do not claim prophetic gifts and admit a freat deal of wariness when people claim prophetic visions. The last verses of Revelation are a pretty stark warning about that; as are some of Paul’s warnings to the Colossians.
For the record, Uncle Kepha is thoroughly disgusted by Western leaders in academia, culture, and government who think it fine to mock at God’s Anointed (cf. Ps. 2), proudly crying out that they’re breaking his bonds, and yet become so deferential towards Islamic sensitivities. The cowardice is as manifest as the apostasy.
gravenimage says
Kepha, one can be disgusted with a lot of what is going on in the West right now without thinking that our being conquered by savage Islam would be an improvement.
Kepha says
Who’s saying an Islamic conquest would be an improvement? My sacred Scripture includes the narratives, prophecies, and Psalms from the Babylonian Captivity. Read the Prophets not as messages relevant only to the Jews, but also as messages for all who have covenanted with the God Who is There through Christ as well.
gravenimage says
Glad to hear that, Kepha.
But you do realize that if we are thoroughly chastised by Muslims that this will indeed mean their imposing Shari’ah law on us?
Whatever the shortcomings of the modern West–and they are many–things would be *much* worse under the horrors of Islam.
JamesC, says
A lot of us seem to be thinking that way !
It seems rather appropriate that last Sunday in the Roman Calendar was the Feast of the Universal Social Kingship of Christ, since He is supremely the “Anointed King” of Psalm 2. Islam and the West can “rise up” and “take counsel together against” Him if they insist – but they harm only themselves by so doing.
Rufolino says
Moslems don’t pray to the One True God. This is a a fallacy. But most Christians think this, they are being told to by the Pope, and other deluded leaders..
Moslems pray to the entity called “Allah”. Who may as well be called “Baal”, or the “Golden Calf” for all the sick values of this death-cult, which Allah represents. Allah has nothing to do with the One True God of Jews and Christians, whom Allah murderously hates.
Allah is a hideous fantasy and a malign invention originating in the sick brain of Mohammed. But given the relentless evil and ambition “Allah” mandates, he may actually be Satan operating in disguise.
JamesC. says
Muslim allah can be as rightly identified with the true God as Marduk, Osiris, Zeus, Odin or Quetzalcoatl can be. IOW, not at all. The Israelites made the same mistake in Elijah’s time when they confused Baal with the God of Israel. That they have similar attributes, up to a point, is no reason whatever to identify them.
abad says
Don, Christians do NOT worship the same God that Moslems do.
In fact, Moslems worship the Devil.
There is a reason there is so much death and destruction in Islam – and no creation nor life in Islam.
tim gallagher says
I like to see signs of the fightback (at long last) such as this burning the hate-filled Koran by people in France and Sweden against rotten, evil Islam. I hope it turns into an avalanche of people who finally say, “We’ve put up with islam and its evil bullshit long enough and we are not going to put up with its garbage any more”. This is what has to happen in all our countries some day instead of this endless tolerance and this very weak caving in to the Muslim enemy, people who are the enemy of all our civilised values.
James Lincoln says
tim,
Reminds me of a quote from Popeye the Sailor:
“That’s all I can stand, I can’t stands no more.”
tim gallagher says
Yes, that’s right, James. i was also thinking of the words of the Australian actor, Peter Finch, in a movie called “Network” (I think that was the title, I’ve never seen the film, but hear the quote from time to time) where he has some kind of meltdown and yells, “I’ve had enough, I’m as mad as hell and I won’t (or can’t) take this anymore”. I think he then throws something out of an office window. I often think that that is the way people in our societies should feel about islam and all its garbage, its terrorist attacks, rapes, etc. But Popeye said it long before Peter Finch. Our societies need to take some spinach and get tough with Islam.
gravenimage says
Sweden: Police try to stop people from burning Qur’an in honor of teacher beheaded over Muhammad cartoon
…………….
Just appalling. Why don’t they try to stop Muslims from attacking their own peaceful citizens, instead?
James Lincoln says
So the Swedish police want to “keep order in the square” and the UK police will arrest you for a “breach of the peace”.
Do we see a pattern here?
CogitoErgoSum says
I see it as letting the bully have his way so he won’t beat you up.
European pagan says
Nice picture 🙂 burning Quran 🙂
I think this beheading was too much for European people and they will show muslims that we don’t want them and their religion here anymore.
mortimer says
Hope you read your fellow Europeans right, EP.
If ten Korans were burned every time there was a jihad killing, Muslims would probably stop the killings.
If ten Muslims were expelled every time there was a jihad killing, Muslims would DEFINITELY stop the killings.
CogitoErgoSum says
David Wood currently seems to be conducting an experiment involving stepping up his mockery of Islam with a new desecration of the Koran every time Muslims mock Christianity or threaten or kill Christians. We will see how this turns out but I think he may very well be underestimating the amount of ignorance, stupidity and pure malevolence prevalent among Muslims. He has received numerous death threats and is a brave man indeed to do what he does. I admire him for his courage and wish him well with his endeavor but I do fear for his life now more than ever. May God protect him and his family but David does seem happy with the thought of becoming a martyr.
gravenimage says
I hope he stays safe.
Michael Copeland says
“Savage mockery of history’s most obvious false prophet. It’s what I do.”
David Wood
The Koran instructs muslims to stop criticising other religions if it is causing counter criticism or mockery of Islam. David Wood is holding them to their book.
gravenimage says
I haven’t seen that, Michael. Do you have citations?
CogitoErgoSum says
Graven, see this video from David Wood as he explains:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IdAGpGK0UM
James Lincoln says
CogitoErgoSum,
I have *immense* respect for David Wood and what he is trying to do.
I sense that he is very pragmatic, and will likely take appropriate security precautions. Not failsafe by any means, but it reduces the risk significantly…
gravenimage says
Michael and CogitoErgoSum, thank you for that. I have read the Qur’an several times, and had still managed to miss the lesson of Sura 6:108. I had not read the accompanying Hadith, either.
David Wood is brilliant, as I have said before.
Sadly, I think this is one of the few Qur’anic verses that Muslims are not particularly likely to follow–they are more likely to behead people who dare criticize “Allah”, Islam, and the “Prophet” than they are to stop insulting and threatening Infidel women or non-Islamic deities.
Eleanor says
It will take more than one man with an insect aerosol to rid the house of the cockroach infestation.
mortimer says
Robert Spencer is on the money … the Swedish authorities are indeed “bowing to violent intimidation and enforcing Sharia blasphemy laws because they’re too weak and cowardly to stand up for the freedom of expression”
Michael Copeland says
Swedish police were outnumbered. They were obliged to admit defeat.
“…after a risk assessment, the authority has concluded that the threat posed by violent Muslim groups is so extensive that the security of the demonstrators cannot be guaranteed or that third parties and property are not subjected to Muslim hate attacks.”
Reprehensibly, and in a failure to uphold the law, they decided to move the goalposts: they announced that they were banning Islam-critical demonstrations in ALL places.
What is going on here? This is step-by-step capitulation. In effect, Swedish police are now administering Sharia law (where Koran-burning is prohibited).
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/10/islams-violent-assault-on-democracy/
James Lincoln says
Michael Copeland says.
“This is step-by-step capitulation. In effect, Swedish police are now administering Sharia law (where Koran-burning is prohibited).”
Unfortunately, yes…
gravenimage says
Yes–this just emboldens violent Muslims to shut down freedom of speech.
Brando says
Now I have seen it all,I am a LIBERTARIAN but there is a female libertarian who is in the Libertarian Think Tank called the REASON FOUNDATION called SHIKHA DALMIA ( as a Senior Analyst )who:
1.Is Incapable of Realizing how Dangerous ISLAM is.She actually says
2.Hurls attacks on TRUMP calling him RACIST.
In fact it seems she is in FAVOR of voting for BIDEN,it appears in her latest twitter 10 hrs ago:
“One way for libertarians and other non-partisans to think about this election is not in terms of what agenda you want enacted but what agenda you’d prefer fighting.
As a libertarian, I’d rather fight Biden’s welfare “socialism” rather than Trump’s racism/nativism.”
PEROSNALLY I think she has been BOUGHT ( or is Crazy ).
Here is a link to a 2014 article in REASON ( her organization ) where she actually says that to call Islam FASCIST is FALSE and DANGEROUS. Again,I think she has been secretly paid to Pretend to be a Libertarian.
https://reason.com/2014/05/19/shikha-dalmia-on-bill-mahers-attempts-to/
I am familiar with the Libertarian thinkers in Spanish,and NONE of them has any hesitation in considering Islam to be ANTI-HUMAN RIGHTS.
Andrew says
If I tell a muslim that I believe his religion is very violent and he then attacks me very violently for saying this, is he being a good muslim by proving my point?.
James Lincoln says
Yes, Andrew…
gravenimage says
Yep.
Boycott Turkey says
Burn the filthy book ??
don vito says
I have yet to read or watch a video, in which, any jurisdiction, in the WEST, that has ruled islam as an ethnic. So this Swedish law is being misapplied by the police, perhaps the Swedish parliment could pass a law declaring islam is an ethnic, science you know?
OLD GUY says
This is what follows the migration invasion of muslim/islamic people into your country.
They will not assimilate into your society, they will destroy your culture and society.
There are no moderate muslim/islamic followers.
The Islamic moderate will always support the Jihadist and sharia laws, in their attempt to over run your country.
Muslims know they cannot militarily defeat most western countries military so they are infiltrating the countries with millions of young islamic followers to take over from within.
Islam is a DICTATORSHIP using a religious ideology to control the people under its dominance. This was Hitlers dream, world dominance.
Being Dean says
You have it all wrong
Islam believes in Jesus and all they have for him is love and respect
But Christians don’t believe in Mohammad . Muslims don’t expect them to believe in him
But insulting him is no way of expressing your freedom of speech .
am not saying slaughtering people justifies that
But this sickness of expressing your own right by insulting someone so beloved to other people should be stopped
gravenimage says
Being Dean wrote:
You have it all wrong
Islam believes in Jesus and all they have for him is love and respect
………………………..
The Muslim ‘Jesus’–reallhy, “prophet Isa”–his main role in Islam is to slaughter all Christians in the last days. Clearly this is not the same figure as the Christian Jesus.
More:
But Christians don’t believe in Mohammad . Muslims don’t expect them to believe in him
But insulting him is no way of expressing your freedom of speech .
………………………..
In other words, don’t dare say anything critical about this warlord, pedophile, slaver, rapist, or mass murderer–including saying that he was violent–or we will prove you right…
More:
am not saying slaughtering people justifies that
But this sickness of expressing your own right by insulting someone so beloved to other people should be stopped
………………………..
Why should people be stopped from exposing the horrors of Islam? And what does this viciius poster have in mind save violence? He likely wants the West to start enforcing the savagery of Shari’ah law.