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Video: FBI warns David Wood of jihadists’ calls to murder him for eating Qur’an pages

Oct 25, 2020 1:00 pm By Robert Spencer 56 Comments

In Pakistan, a man was recently sentenced to life in prison for desecrating the Qur’an, and it would be no surprise at all if he were killed in prison. In Sweden, Muslims recently rioted over the burning of the Qur’an. A Tunisian woman fled for her life to Germany after she was sentenced to prison for desecrating the Qur’an. In Austria, Muslims threatened to murder a politician for criticizing the Qur’an.

Where are the Muslims standing up for the freedom of speech and denouncing the death penalty for blasphemy? We’re constantly told that those who would commit murder over the destruction of a book (of which there are billions of copies) are simply a tiny minority of extremists that misunderstand their own peaceful faith. All right. Where is that peaceful majority?

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  1. Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 1:14 pm

    Crickets.

    Reply
    • revereridesagain says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 3:58 pm

      Ew. David, please tell us that’s made out of rice paper. Otherwise, that’s going to mess up your constitution. It’s what the Krayon does!

      Reply
  2. Steve says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 1:15 pm

    One of the biggest lies in the world (right after, all cultures are equal) is, moderates don’t support radical Islam, except they do, by lying about what the Qur’an and Hadiths say. Even if they are against those teachings, they don’t stand up to denounce it, and in the end, they do nothing to stop the Islamists, and end up being carriers of the virulent ideology.

    Reply
  3. Juhani says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 1:42 pm

    Muslims should be happy as the paper is being transformed to more usable form.

    Reply
    • t. says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 3:28 pm

      I was waiting to see what he was going to say after “you jihadis, you’ve wasted 5 minutes of my time”.

      What he unexpectedly did next made me crack up laughing.

      Bless your heart, David.

      Reply
    • revereridesagain says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 5:03 pm

      +1

      Reply
  4. jay says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 1:47 pm

    Watching you eat such poison makes me wonder why anyone would even need to kill you. Are you doing suicide-by-quran?

    Reply
  5. Stanton Lore says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 1:49 pm

    Perhaps warning David Wood privately is safer for him. No doubtJihad Watch has Muslim followers who monitor content.

    Reply
  6. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 2:05 pm

    With his videos David Wood has made a mockery of Islam.

    Thank you David Wood.

    Reply
    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 2:09 pm

      Also thank you to the government officials from the FBI and DHS for doing what they do to protect critics of Islam. As Wood points out, some of government law enforcement officials are competent when it comes to dealing with matters emerging from devout Moslems.

      Reply
      • revereridesagain says

        Oct 25, 2020 at 5:06 pm

        The same thing happened to a friend of mine some years ago. However after he was duly and courteously warned of the situation by the FBI he made the error of mentioning it to his landlord and subsequently found himself evicted as a “danger” to other tenants — which included several Muslims on the public dole. The moral of which is, be sure you do not have an “at will” tenancy should you incur the wrath of the slaves of Allah!

        Reply
    • Michael Copeland says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 2:35 pm

      “Savage mockery of history’s most obvious false prophet. It’s what I do.”
      David Wood

      Reply
      • John Hawk says

        Oct 25, 2020 at 4:41 pm

        Yeah, and David Wood has so much material to work with. Does Satan urinate in your ears? Do you think Allah has two right hands? How about the sun setting in a muddy spring? Such rubbish.

        Islam is the longest running fraud in history, thanks to the morally repugnant Muhammad and his psychotic projection Allah.

        In the interests of free speech, perhaps this site should have a weekly feature devoted to the latest Muhammad jokes and mockery.

        Reply
  7. Walter Sieruk says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 2:15 pm

    Another and better way handle the problem of the Quran, other than eating some pages of it is to expose the logic flaw made by Muslims apologists for the Quran proclaim to uphold it as Divine.

    For example, a claim by many Muslims is that no one can produce something as beautiful as the Quran in the way the words are arranged and thus it can only be of God. This claim should be answered.

    First, all someone has to do is examine some of the great works of literature to fine much written beauty. Such as the Greek epic poet Homer with his Iliad and Odyssey and then Virgil who produced the Aeneid has beauty. Even one of the non-Bible books in the Apocrypha called The Song of Three Children is also very beautiful. Thus just because someone sees a work that is written in great beauty doesn’t mean it’s inspired by God.
    Second, the scholar Edward Gibbon wrote after an examination of the Quran that it is an “incoherent jumble of fable and precept and declamation which seldom excites a sentiment or an idea, sometimes craws in the dust and is sometimes lost in the clouds…” The writer Thomas Carlyle wrote the Quran is “A wearisome jumble, crude, incondite [with] endless iterations [and] long-windedness…” Likewise, the philosopher David Hume was NOT favorably impressed after reading the Quran.

    [Source of the three scholars mentioned – Secrets of The Koran: Revealing Insight Into Islam’s Holy Book .56,66, by Don Richardson]

    Second , the following should be taken into consideration.

    Of course the Muslim who reads the Quran will see great beauty in the way the words are arranged. This is, in part, because of the power of suggestion after being told so many times that the Quran is so beautifully written. That’s an old brainwashing method, repeating and being told that same thing again and again. Since he or she is always being told the same lie will end up believing that lie. In addition to that, the Imams try to discourage their people from reading other works, such as the Bible, so then they don’t have much or anything to compare or contrast the Quran with. Of course there are some Muslim’s that do read other works, but they are exceptions and they read other things only after they were already brainwashed by the Imams. In short, the Muslims can’t read the Quran objectively because their Imams have programmed them to have a strong bias towards it.

    Reply
    • Rarely says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 2:51 pm

      Yup. That should do it. You explain it to them.

      Reply
      • Walter Sieruk says

        Oct 26, 2020 at 12:32 pm

        To Rarely ,they will totally refuse to listen to the truth or examination any information provided to them. Their minded hearts and closed . They have chosen that is called “willful ignorance” otherwise called “intentional ignorance.” For the devote Muslim it’s “Don’t give me the facts my mind already is made up.”

        Related this this is the idea of classical work of ancient Greek literature, by Plato, entitled THE APOLOGY OF SOCRATES it in written that Socrates had said that “An unexamined life is not worth living.” Likewise, in may also be said that “An unexamined religion is not worth believing in.” This is said about all religions. Yet to be specific, in this case, the topic is about the religion of Islam.

        Furthermore, one man who was as a former a Muslim and had lived in one of the Islamic nations of the Middle East but now he is Christian and an American citizen had explained in a book he wrote that “Driving into depths of the word of reasoned thinking and research in Islamic societies has always been costly. Some Muslims who have done this have even been excluded from their social rights and even sentenced to death.” [1]

        [1] ISLAM AND THE SON OF GOD by Daniel Shayesteh page 70.

        Reply
    • SKA says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 6:46 pm

      Can’t read it objectively!? How about can’t read it at all! (Unless you call making noises from the phonetics of the text “reading.”) apparently about 20% of the Quranic text is unintelligible to modern literate Arabs.

      Reply
    • Politicallyincorrectistruth says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 11:21 pm

      “In short, the Muslims can’t read the Quran objectively because their Imams have programmed them to have a strong bias towards it.” Yes, just like all religions including the bible. Brainwashed with bullshit and gullible fools. The earth is 5000 years old…if you believe that, your a moron. Noah was 600 years old…if you believe that, your a moron. The flood happened? Your a moron.

      Reply
      • Sophia says

        Oct 26, 2020 at 5:58 am

        If you’re going to insult people by calling them “moron,” you’re better off using the correct word. Otherwise, it looks like you’re the moron.

        Reply
      • marc says

        Oct 26, 2020 at 7:30 am

        “The flood happened?” maybe not exactly as in scripture, but some good evidence https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-suggests-biblical-great-flood-noahs-time-happened/story?id=17884533

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        • gravenimage says

          Oct 27, 2020 at 7:05 pm

          +1

      • libertyORdeath says

        Oct 27, 2020 at 8:49 am

        Luckily the Bible doesn’t contain anything that is as dangerous as a metaphysical being who commands people to kill disbelievers and beat women.

        Reply
  8. Walter Sieruk says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    A better ,as in a more intelligent and sophisticated way deal with Quran than eating some of it is to expose the many errors and contradictions this religious book contains.

    This has already been done on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Quran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Quran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Quran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Quran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Quran. Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Quran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.”

    Futhermore, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses.

    For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.” In conclusion, the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.

    Even though the above essay was posted before, it should now be added that the last statement of the above that “the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.” To put this in a Biblical way. As in from the Bible, it may be truly explained that the Quran is a deceptive work of “the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.” Ephesians 14:12.. [N.I.V.]

    Reply
  9. RANDALL ANDERSON says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    I piss on the Quran…I wipe my ass with the pages…but I would not eat it, for fear of the ink and paper, not knowing where they came from.

    Reply
    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 2:54 pm

      I wipe my ass with the pages…

      HEY THAT WAS MY INNOVATION FROM YEARS BACK.

      But, if you must, be sure to use the pages from an expensive Holy Ko-Ran edition, those are printed on cloth paper. Inshallah.

      Reply
      • Jayell says

        Oct 26, 2020 at 4:33 am

        An even better idea. A manufacturer of ‘bathroom tissue’ could produce an edition of the Qur’an printed on rolls of toilet paper so that the devout muslim could then peruse it as they visit the convenience or the infidel could use it for reasons of hygiene. That way you’ve cornered the market from both angles!!

        By the way….”Where are the Muslims standing up for the freedom of speech and denouncing the death penalty for blasphemy?…. .Where is that peaceful majority?” Dear oh dear, Mr. Spencer, how many times have you had to say that?

        Reply
    • Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 5:08 pm

      And the amazing thing is, when you poop it out it’s the same as when it went in, just one big pile of shit.

      Reply
      • tim gallagher says

        Oct 25, 2020 at 5:26 pm

        Very funny comment, Agostino. It gave me a good laugh. I’m sure that David Wood must have had endless threats from the thuggish Muslim barbarians. All the truth tellers, like Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Wood, et al, would be threatened. They are all great and brave heroes for the mighty work they do.

        Reply
        • Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

          Oct 25, 2020 at 6:04 pm

          Yes, they’re brave, and smart, and passionate about human rights as they pertain to islam. They are the salt of the earth.

        • tim gallagher says

          Oct 25, 2020 at 11:25 pm

          Spot on, Agostino. They are certainly people that I admire a great deal. The salt of the earth is a good way to put it.

  10. European pagan says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    I know a guy who made Quran destroying videos (but he never shows his face on his channel, because it would be dangerous) and he got some ‘nice’ messages from muslims…

    Reply
  11. Boycott Turkey says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 4:03 pm

    The problem is it’s only a few people who would rip up the Koran or draw a cartoon of Mohammed so the jihadist think it’s only a few people let’s kill or threaten them but if everybody like thousands of people riped up the Koran or drew Mohammed the jihadist can’t kill thousands of people I was a bit disspointed with the french rally to remeber the teacher and protect free speech I looked at the placards and couldn’t see a drawing of Muhammad why didn’t they use the same drawing that the teacher drew on there placards there where thousands of people who rallied for free speech but i don’t know how many had a cartoon of Muhammad on there placards But I never saw one also the media and magazines don’t publish the cartoons apart from Charlie Hebdo it’s giving a kind of victory to the terrorist

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  12. Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 4:52 pm

    I laughed so hard over the chewing I almost had tears coming from my eyes. You’re just too cool, David Wood. 🙂 You’re a natural comedian.

    It’s good to see law enforcement has your back, David. But seriously take care. You know better than most just how crazy some of these muslims can be for their “religion.” And I might as well take this time to thank you for all the good work you do on our behalf. I remember watching you way back in your earliest videos and thinking, this guy has the smarts and candor to make a difference. If I recall correctly the first video I watched of you was the Arab Fest in Dearborn, I think it was about 1000 years ago. I was an immediate fan, I felt you were speaking on my behalf. Back then your subscriber list was short, but your intellect drew them in like bees to honey. You’ve proven yourself to be a tremendous voice of reason in a world crazy for islam. Thank you thank you thank you, from the bottom of my heart.

    And thank you to the FBI for being so on the ball and taking the threat seriously. It’s good to know they are working behind the scenes protecting our free speech and those who aren’t afraid to use it.

    Three cheers for David Wood!

    Reply
    • Boycott Turkey says

      Oct 25, 2020 at 5:44 pm

      I also laughed very hard the way he stuffed the pages in his mouth also funny was the shoes he made from the Koran lol David is very funny but his also very educated in the Koran and exposing it I saw he got death threats they need to find and arrest those people they dangerous to everyone

      Reply
  13. Brando says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 5:15 pm

    As an Agnostic I was astonished to know Muslims say(in debates ) that JESUS was a FAILED PROPHET because Jesus spoke about his SECOND COMING ( giving many details ) and saying:

    “Truly, I say to you, THIS GENERATION will NOT PASS away until all these things take place.”

    ( MATT 24:34/ MARK 13:30 / LUKE 21:32 )

    So a BIBLICAL generation (40 years ) passed and Jesus did not come back.

    SCHOLARSHIP and ERUDITION

    Of course those Muslims Know the Following:

    1.LUKE and MATTHEW used MARK as a SOURCE for their biographies of Jesus.

    2.MARK is the EARLIEST of the biographies of Jesus ( Mark,Luke,John,Matthew)

    3.But Virtually All Scholars agree that Luke and Matthew copied from Q.

    WHAT IS Q?

    1.In those days 90% of the population was ILLITERATE so it was the custom to have a Collection of Sayings of Famous People.

    2.Q is a collection of some 50 Sayings of Jesus that ALSO appear in LUKE and MATTHEW but NOT at all in MARK.

    3. Q was written about 50 AD.

    4.The DESTRUCTION of the TEMPLE of JERUSALEM was in 70 AD.

    JESUS SAYS ( for his SECOND COMING ):

    1.That it is CONDITIONAL ( that those of the TEMPLE of JERUSALEM have to ACCEPT him,Jesus,which they Never Did )

    2.It is in Q,written 20 years Before the Destruction of the Temple.

    3.There Jesus cites PSALM 118:26

    “Blessed is he who comes in the NAME of YAHWEH.

    From the HOUSE OF YAHWEH ( it is the TEMPLE in Jerusalem ) we bless you.”

    SOMETHING ELSE

    Jesus in Q also says that the RESULT would be the Destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem,if they don’t accept him.

    IT IS IN MATTHEW 23:37-38 / Luke 13:34-35:

    A. “JERUSALEM, JERUSALEM,

    you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.

    Look, YOUR HOUSE is left DESOLATE.

    (My note: the House of Jerusalem is the Temple)

    B. I tell you, YOU ( Jerusalem ) will NOT see ME AGAIN ( I, Jesus ) until you say,

    “‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'” ”

    That is WHY I know Muslim apologists use trickery.

    Reply
  14. peter says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I think Quran eating has some symbolic meaning . He digests it and purges it out of his system .What a great idea!

    Reply
  15. Henry Schalk says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 7:19 pm

    I hope it tastes better than it reads. God protect you David!

    Reply
  16. E T says

    Oct 25, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    It has replaced the Eaton’s catalogue in many outhouses.

    Reply
  17. gravenimage says

    Oct 26, 2020 at 12:18 am

    Video: FBI warns David Wood of jihadists’ calls to murder him for eating Qur’an pages
    ……………….

    David Wood is a brave, brave man.

    I hope the FBI tracks these Muslim thugs down and arrests them–but I won’t be holding my breath.

    Reply
  18. Aussie Infidel says

    Oct 26, 2020 at 2:19 am

    Robert asks, “Where is that peaceful majority?” The fact is that there IS NO “peaceful majority”. Less than 20% would be peaceful, but the rest support the violence perpetrated by the jihadis. The jihadis ARE only a tiny minority – a fraction of 1% – but how many violent criminals are needed to cause mayhem? This tiny minority DO NOT “misunderstand their own peaceful faith”. They understand exactly what their faith tells them to do – courtesy of the radicalization by their imams and mullahs – and being psychopaths, they are quite happy to commit the violence their scriptures demand.

    I hope David takes care and thinks about his security.

    Reply
    • GOLDMANN says

      Oct 26, 2020 at 5:27 am

      👍👍yes !✝️

      Reply
    • Michael Copeland says

      Oct 26, 2020 at 12:04 pm

      “This is not a perversion. They’re doing EXACTLY what this book says.”
      Lt-Col. Allen West

      Reply
  19. observer says

    Oct 26, 2020 at 7:13 am

    David is going to get abysmal spiritual indigestion on his menu of pages stripped from the not-one, unholy, imperfectly preserved book (now all of 37 in number), which the angel Gabriel did NOT hand down to a mentally ill false prophet.
    This idiot false prophet was only good for spawning more mentally ill offspring.
    And so it has continued down through the generations to this day.
    The inference to the best explanation of these possessed souls.

    May the GOD OF LOVE be with you and your family David ✝️🙏

    Thank you Robert.

    Reply
  20. golem3 says

    Oct 26, 2020 at 2:07 pm

    Best video I have seen lately. We need more People like Mr. Wood

    Reply
  21. Αλή Αλ-Γιουνάνι says

    Oct 27, 2020 at 3:52 am

    “Where are the Muslims standing up for the freedom of speech”

    Insulting others’ religion is not freedom of speech. We should respect each-other and not insult each-other.

    Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Oct 27, 2020 at 7:16 pm

      The repulsive Αλή Αλ-Γιουνάνι wrote:

      “Where are the Muslims standing up for the freedom of speech”

      Insulting others’ religion is not freedom of speech. We should respect each-other and not insult each-other.
      ………………………….

      This apologist for Islamic savagery has said this before, re his coreligionist beheading a teacher–now he is saying the same re Musims threatening to murder David Wood. *Clearly* he has no problem with murdering those who dare say anything crirical about Islam.

      And yes–criticizing any ideology, incuding a religion, is indeed core freedom of speech.

      And what has David Wood said? He has noted that the appalling “Prophet” Muhammed was a warlord, a slaver, a rapist, a pedophile, and a mass murderer. How *dare* anyone speak critrically of these horrors?

      And the implictiaon that Muslims respect other faiths is absurd–the key prayers of Islam insult Jews and Christians, and–far worse, of course–call for violence against them.

      As for his username, this means, roughly, “Ali the Greek”. But it uses the Turkish term. “Al-Yunis”–so it is likely a call for the Muslim Turks to reconquer Greece. Ugly stuff all around.

      Reply
      • Αλή Αλ-Γιουνάνι says

        Oct 28, 2020 at 7:00 am

        “he has no problem with murdering those who dare say anything crirical about Islam.”

        When i said this?

        “criticizing any ideology, incuding a religion, is indeed core freedom of speech.”

        Criticizing and insulting are not the same. Between criticizing and insulting there is difference.

        “call for violence against them.”

        This is not true.

        Reply
        • gravenimage says

          Oct 30, 2020 at 8:12 pm

          What claptrap. Pious Muslims consider *any* criticism of Islam to be grounds for violence. Note that Muslims consider saying *anything* negative about the wrlord, pedophile, slaver, rapist, and mass murderer “Prophet” Muhammed to be an insult.

          Besides, if he *really* beleived that his coreligionists had no right to threaten anyone over criticism of Islam. he would be teling them how very wrong they were, instead of slinging Taqiyya here.

          And note that Ali here was spouting apologia for the slaughter of Greeks during the Armenian Genocide on this thread:

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/10/sweden-muslim-migrant-politician-says-criticism-of-islam-is-a-dirty-crime-that-deserves-punishment#comment-2288336

  22. Dario says

    Oct 27, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    Good video, I am glad someone is protecting you.

    Reply
  23. Αλή Αλ-Γιουνάνι says

    Oct 28, 2020 at 7:06 am

    file:///D:/%CE%91%CE%BB%CE%AE/%CE%94%CE%B9%CE%AC%CF%86%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%B1/%CE%A6%CF%89%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%B3%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%86%CE%AF%CE%B5%CF%82/%CE%94%CE%B9%CE%AC%CF%86%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%B1/cc-davidwood.png

    Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Oct 30, 2020 at 8:14 pm

      This file is not accessible. Will Αλή Αλ-Γιουνάν say what this is?

      Notre that he has said *nothing* against the calls to murder David Wood for telling the truth about Islam.

      Reply
      • Αλή Αλ-Γιουνάνι says

        Nov 1, 2020 at 7:06 pm

        haha https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PpQNDW0cbxU/hqdefault.jpg

        Reply
        • gravenimage says

          Nov 1, 2020 at 9:51 pm

          This is David Wood spoofing Muhammed for saying that he received diktats from Allah while dressed in his child bride’s clothes.

          Why would Ali here think we don’t know this?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlSknRlQSqs&ab_channel=Acts17Apologetics

          What an idiot.

  24. Αλή Αλ-Γιουνάνι says

    Nov 1, 2020 at 7:07 pm

    Your friend https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PpQNDW0cbxU/hqdefault.jpg

    Reply
  25. Αλή Αλ-Γιουνάνι says

    Nov 1, 2020 at 7:07 pm

    See your friend https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PpQNDW0cbxU/hqdefault.jpg

    Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Nov 1, 2020 at 9:52 pm

      Why is Ali spamming this? See above.

      Reply

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