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Crusades Were Rightsays
Amazin’!
;¬)
James Lincolnsays
Very impressed with Jesse Lee Peterson’s interviewing skills.
Robert Spencer, as usual, was spectacular…
gravenimagesays
Video: Robert Spencer Defends American History on Columbus Day
…………..
Good stuff.
That many throw out Columbus’s astonishing watershed achievements along with his more concerning actions is ludicrous.
Jamessays
I am glad Columbus came to America. My Irish relatives could finally get away from the English government.
revereridesagainsays
Just love it when the OnlyBlackMarxistLivesMatter stooges insist that my Irish domestic servant great-grandparents were their “oppressors”. Also the Newfoundland “outporters”. Try looking that one up, BLM-ers.
gravenimagesays
They even consider those descended from Union troops who freed the slaves to be oppressors–just grotesque.
FYIsays
Yes.It is funny how BLM ignores the fact that Whites were victims of oppression too,there were black slave-owners in America-the first slave owner in America was an African from Angola{Anthony Johnson 1600-1670}
Even American Indians owned African slaves{..really awkward that..}
The Pre-columbian Americas were pretty horrific:Genocidal wars{indian vs indian},wars of conquest etc but Lefty Historians choose to ignore all that.
Ole Pedersonsays
Good for your ancestors. Most Native Americans have no reason to celebrate …
And contrary to what many write here to justify the genocide, the Natives weren’t just brutish savages. Some of them built quite a few impressing civilizations. Read:
I fully sympathize with Native Americans or any colonized people.
But Historians have a blind spot.
Native American tribes fought and killed other Native Americans.
They also OWNED African slaves:the ‘Five Civilized Tribes’,the Cherokee,Chickasaw,Choctaw,Creek and Seminole all owned slaves and were just as cruel as white slavers could be.
Like the Atlantic slave trade there are no innocent parties.
As for pre-columbian America:Aztecs were involved in a Genocidal war against the Huaxtec,the Texlacans and the Maya:the inca empire was founded on wars of expansion against other indians particularly the mapuche and shuar.They happily engaged in genocide themselves.
All this was going on well BEFORE Columbus came to America.
I sympathise with the plight of the colonized:my ancestors were colonized.
But Historians often do not tell the full truth,especially Lefty Historians.
Any Historian who ignores these awkward facts is not being oblective:it is not as if the pre-Columbian Americas were some paradise on Earth where everybody got along.
I have always been an avid fan of Dee Brown’s books {‘Bury my heart at wounded knee” etc from whom I learned much about Native American history}:he’s a Historian I trust.
Ole Pedersonsays
Good reply. I merely wanted to point out that the Native Americans were no better, no worse, than the people who conquered them. If anything, the concept of waging war for land was uncommon, and – other than with large empires such as the Inca empire – genocides were rare. Not like in Europe or Islamic countries, for that matter.
FYIsays
@Ole Pederson
Thanks.I’ll have a read of those books. I recommend ANY book written by Dee Brown but especially ..
‘Bury my heart at Wounded Knee:an Indian history of the American west”
Phil Copsonsays
Re your post at 4.57 – what European genocides happened, Ole ? thanks.
Stephen Goldspinksays
Fabulous. An inspiration Robert, as ever.
Davidsays
Apart from Fox, what Media is on the Right?
Trump by-passed the MSM by using Twitter.
Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. What for? Killing Bin Laden? Ironic?
Look at the role models that blacks have: George Floyd etc.
Slavery is alive and well. Mostly carried out by muslims.
gravenimagesays
Obama got his Nobel Prize before the Navy Seals took out bin Laden.
Ole Pedersonsays
Well the Nobel peace prize is a pretty good indicator of the worst crooks and evildoers in present history, so I think Obama deserved it.
Only occasionally someone like Malala (the girl who was shot in Pakistan for wanting to learn reading) get the prize.
wpmsays
Obama won the Nobel prize before Bin Laden was taken out by special forces ,No one has the any idea why Obama won the prize.
James Lincolnsays
wpm,
According to nobelprize.org, Obama won the prize based upon:
“for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.”
Crusades Were Right says
Amazin’!
;¬)
James Lincoln says
Very impressed with Jesse Lee Peterson’s interviewing skills.
Robert Spencer, as usual, was spectacular…
gravenimage says
Video: Robert Spencer Defends American History on Columbus Day
…………..
Good stuff.
That many throw out Columbus’s astonishing watershed achievements along with his more concerning actions is ludicrous.
James says
I am glad Columbus came to America. My Irish relatives could finally get away from the English government.
revereridesagain says
Just love it when the OnlyBlackMarxistLivesMatter stooges insist that my Irish domestic servant great-grandparents were their “oppressors”. Also the Newfoundland “outporters”. Try looking that one up, BLM-ers.
gravenimage says
They even consider those descended from Union troops who freed the slaves to be oppressors–just grotesque.
FYI says
Yes.It is funny how BLM ignores the fact that Whites were victims of oppression too,there were black slave-owners in America-the first slave owner in America was an African from Angola{Anthony Johnson 1600-1670}
Even American Indians owned African slaves{..really awkward that..}
The Pre-columbian Americas were pretty horrific:Genocidal wars{indian vs indian},wars of conquest etc but Lefty Historians choose to ignore all that.
Ole Pederson says
Good for your ancestors. Most Native Americans have no reason to celebrate …
And contrary to what many write here to justify the genocide, the Natives weren’t just brutish savages. Some of them built quite a few impressing civilizations. Read:
– R.White “Stolen continents”
– J.Weatherford “Indian givers”
FYI says
I fully sympathize with Native Americans or any colonized people.
But Historians have a blind spot.
Native American tribes fought and killed other Native Americans.
They also OWNED African slaves:the ‘Five Civilized Tribes’,the Cherokee,Chickasaw,Choctaw,Creek and Seminole all owned slaves and were just as cruel as white slavers could be.
Like the Atlantic slave trade there are no innocent parties.
As for pre-columbian America:Aztecs were involved in a Genocidal war against the Huaxtec,the Texlacans and the Maya:the inca empire was founded on wars of expansion against other indians particularly the mapuche and shuar.They happily engaged in genocide themselves.
All this was going on well BEFORE Columbus came to America.
I sympathise with the plight of the colonized:my ancestors were colonized.
But Historians often do not tell the full truth,especially Lefty Historians.
Any Historian who ignores these awkward facts is not being oblective:it is not as if the pre-Columbian Americas were some paradise on Earth where everybody got along.
I have always been an avid fan of Dee Brown’s books {‘Bury my heart at wounded knee” etc from whom I learned much about Native American history}:he’s a Historian I trust.
Ole Pederson says
Good reply. I merely wanted to point out that the Native Americans were no better, no worse, than the people who conquered them. If anything, the concept of waging war for land was uncommon, and – other than with large empires such as the Inca empire – genocides were rare. Not like in Europe or Islamic countries, for that matter.
FYI says
@Ole Pederson
Thanks.I’ll have a read of those books. I recommend ANY book written by Dee Brown but especially ..
‘Bury my heart at Wounded Knee:an Indian history of the American west”
Phil Copson says
Re your post at 4.57 – what European genocides happened, Ole ? thanks.
Stephen Goldspink says
Fabulous. An inspiration Robert, as ever.
David says
Apart from Fox, what Media is on the Right?
Trump by-passed the MSM by using Twitter.
Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. What for? Killing Bin Laden? Ironic?
Look at the role models that blacks have: George Floyd etc.
Slavery is alive and well. Mostly carried out by muslims.
gravenimage says
Obama got his Nobel Prize before the Navy Seals took out bin Laden.
Ole Pederson says
Well the Nobel peace prize is a pretty good indicator of the worst crooks and evildoers in present history, so I think Obama deserved it.
Only occasionally someone like Malala (the girl who was shot in Pakistan for wanting to learn reading) get the prize.
wpm says
Obama won the Nobel prize before Bin Laden was taken out by special forces ,No one has the any idea why Obama won the prize.
James Lincoln says
wpm,
According to nobelprize.org, Obama won the prize based upon:
“for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.”
Even he was surprised – to say the least…
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/obama/facts/
gravenimage says
Sorry, wpm–I posted above before I read you comments here.