Reality:
Muhammad said: “I have been made victorious through terror” (Bukhari 4:52.220).
The Qur’an says: “Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies…” (8:60)
“When your Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers; so strike the necks, and strike every finger of them!” (Qur’an 8:12)
“We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 3:151)
“And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out; persecution is worse than slaughter. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, kill them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is all-forgiving, all-compassionate. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.” (Qur’an 2:191-193)
“They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
“This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth to do corruption there: they shall be killed, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall be struck off on opposite sides; or they shall be exiled from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.” (Qur’an 5:33)
“Fight them, till there is no persecution and religion is all for Allah; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.” (Qur’an 8:39)
“Then, when the sacred months are over, kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” (Qur’an 9:5)
“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)
“Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.” (Qur’an 9:111)
“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” (Qur’an 9:123)
“When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.” (Qur’an 47:4)
“Terrorists not Muslims, says ex-French president,” by Cindi Cook, Anadolu Agency, October 30, 2020 (thanks to Henry):
The terrorists must not be confused with Muslims, former French President Francois Hollande warned Friday.
“These Islamist terrorists want there to be a war between religions,” Hollande said while reacting to the deadly knife attack in Nice city, which left three people dead.
“Do not confuse these terrorists with Muslims. It would be the fault that will plunge us into a conflict that we do not want to touch,” the ex-president said on the morning edition of LCI television.
Hollande was referring to a string of attacks which took place on Thursday in the French cities of Nice, Avignon and Lyon, and the French Consulate of Jeddah, Saudi Arabia….
“The threat is everywhere,” said Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian at Friday’s press conference, cautioning foreign nationals….
Wellington says
Still in denial.
Wellington says
To be thorough, let me amend my above statement to still in denial if sincere, functioning in “coward land” if he actually knows the truth about Islam.
Lavéritétriomphera says
A public figure cannot always say his mind,
Ecosse1314 says
Better say nothing at all then.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Especially in the fact that it’s increasingly difficult to deny the truth.
gravenimage says
Lavéritétriomphera, what is prerventing Hollande from speaking the truth? With all respect, the idea that he knows the truth but for some unnamed reason cannot say so and has to lie about it seems implausible.
As Ecosse says, in such a case better to say nothing. No one is forcing him to say this.
mortimer says
Francois Hollande doesn’t have the ability, knowledge or authority to decide what is authentic Islam or otherwise. Hollande has no understanding of the jihad doctrine.
After years of fighting Islamic terrorism, Francois Hollande has no excuse for his current lack of understanding. Private ‘Muslims’ do not create Sharia law. Sharia law is what determines if they are ‘good’ Muslims or non-observant ones.
Muslims who do not conduct jihad are non-observant Muslims.
Francois Hollande should be ashamed of whitewashing Islam by denying jihad is an essential teaching for all Muslims.
abad says
Hollande gets all his information about Islam from the mainstream media, just like all liberal leaders do.
Because you know to them the MSM is the Gospel Truth(TM pending)
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Gravenimage,
Bonjour,
What Hollande did not make clear is that French political leaders are working on the construction of an Islam of the enlightenment with all that this implies in term of tensions, of disputes.
However the French political leaders have been perfectly clear when they said they will combat obscurantism and islamism. That means the French imams have to deliver a message in accordance with the laws of the republic wether they like it or not.
Whether or not one believes Islam or islamism is one and the same thing, is not the problem of French authorities. They have better things to do than to waist time with the likes (and dislikes) of Muslim leaders and other “specialists”.
Keep in mind the French political leaders have purposely put into question clerical authority in voting on the law on religion which provided for the strict separation of church and state in 1905. This law is still in force at the present time, and it’s under this authority Charlie Hebdo has been authorized to republish the Muhammad cartoons.
So do not confuse these terrorists with Muslims (and Muslim leaders) who respect French secularism.
À bientôt
Neil says
From an outsider looking in it is obvious that Islam does not have a favourable view because BOTH the terrorist Muslims and peaceful Muslims have the SAME god, follow the SAME scripture and the SAME prophet.
There is no reason why Islam should get special treatment and be above the constitution.
Lavéritétriomphera says
The draft bill on separatisms provides the superiority of the republican pact over religious laws https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/politique/lrem/separatisme-les-principaux-axes-du-projet-de-loi-devoiles-dans-le-detail-par-darmanin_2135862.html.
Giacomo Latta says
Why is this so? Should we expect all of our political candidates to be so mealy-mouthed so that when it comes time to vote we don’t have the foggiest who best thinks and speaks on our behalf?
gravenimage says
Lavéritétriomphera wrote:
@Gravenimage,
Bonjour,
What Hollande did not make clear is that French political leaders are working on the construction of an Islam of the enlightenment with all that this implies in term of tensions, of disputes.
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Lavéritétriomphera, Muslims have already said that they will not accept some defanged version of Islam ginned up by French Infidels.
And the claim that Hollande was talking about these magical Muslims who may at some time in the future reject all of the horrors of orthodox Islam in favor of some French redo is implausible at best–really, this from him is just more of the whitewash of Islam that we see from too many Western leaders.
Did you miss this story?
“France: Poll finds that over half of young Muslims prefer Sharia to Republic’s laws”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/11/france-poll-finds-that-over-half-of-young-muslims-prefer-sharia-to-republics-laws
Do *these* Muslims seem poised to accept some non-violent French version of Islam? I think not…
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Gravenimage,
Bonjour,
We are not a religious people and it’s clear you do not understand French secularism.
As I said, Muslim’s likes or s’dislikes are not the government’s priorities. The French authorities refuse to play the game of theologians. This is the case for all religions including Islam, and for example the Jehovah’s Witness who refuse complete blood transfusion can be sanctioned for not helping someone in danger.
Gerald Darmanin The minister of the Interior has instructed Muslims heads, and he told them that Muslims do not enjoy special rights in France. They are subject to the ordinary law, wether or not many of them understand this.
Amitiés
gravenimage says
Lavéritétriomphera wrote:
@Gravenimage,
Bonjour,
We are not a religious people and it’s clear you do not understand French secularism.
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Lavéritétriomphera, I very much understand French secularism. There is nothing in French secularlism that either demands that the French pretend that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism, nor that they pretend that Muslims are apt to let French secularlists define Islam for them.
What Muslims have said they would accept this?
More:
As I said, Muslim’s likes or s’dislikes are not the government’s priorities. The French authorities refuse to play the game of theologians. This is the case for all religions including Islam, and for example the Jehovah’s Witness who refuse complete blood transfusion can be sanctioned for not helping someone in danger.
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Alas, this seems to be Hollande’s priority.
More:
Gerald Darmanin The minister of the Interior has instructed Muslims heads, and he told them that Muslims do not enjoy special rights in France. They are subject to the ordinary law, wether or not many of them understand this.
Amitiés
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Darmanin has said that France is “waging a war against radical Islam”–but, unfortunately, this is the same as Islam itself.
I am very glad to see Macron and Darmanin engaged in at least some pushback against JIhad–but Hollande pretending that Muslims have nothing to do with Jihad terror is not part of this. It is, sadly, just more whitewash of Islam.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Hy gravenimage,
As far as I knows Hollande, who hasn’t left an indelible mark in the country, never said Islam as nothing to do with Jihad. Nevertheless he is right when he doesn’t accuse the all Muslims of having the wrong intentions.
Not all Jehovah witnesses are prospective murderers, not all Mormons are polygamous, not all Hindus are ready to burn their widows …
We are facing a group in the psychological and sociological sens. And therefore I believe the only way to help Muslims exposed to the risk of collusion with terrorism is not to exempt them from responsibility claiming they have no hand in. One can just read the Quran https://quran.com/5/33.
I ask the Muslims leaders to recognize once and for all that Quran and Islam are manmade. And even if the original revelation was genuine, the persons who received it and those who written the texts weren’t perfect, and they had necessarily an incomplete understanding of it. They certainly made misinterpretations and they had to deal with the political authorities probably in revolt against the Byzantine power.
Personally, I have the impression the Muhammad’s biography is a fiction which relies on real and historical facts.
Amitiés
gravenimage says
Lavéritétriomphera wrote:
Hy gravenimage,
As far as I knows Hollande, who hasn’t left an indelible mark in the country, never said Islam as nothing to do with Jihad. Nevertheless he is right when he doesn’t accuse the all Muslims of having the wrong intentions.
Not all Jehovah witnesses are prospective murderers, not all Mormons are polygamous, not all Hindus are ready to burn their widows …
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Actually, Lavéritétriomphera, there is nothing in the texts of Jehovah’s Witnesses that tells them to murder people. Citations, please.
Then, Hollande is not just saying that not all Muslims are Jihadists, which no one is claiming to begin with. Instead, he is saying that terrrorists–that is, Jihadists–are not Muslims, which is *clearly false*. He is basically saying that Jihad has nothing to do with Islam, which is *quite* mistaken.
More:
We are facing a group in the psychological and sociological sens. And therefore I believe the only way to help Muslims exposed to the risk of collusion with terrorism is not to exempt them from responsibility claiming they have no hand in. One can just read the Quran https://quran.com/5/33.
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Yes–the Qur’an is repleat with calls for Jihad–calls which all too many pious Muslims answer.
More:
I ask the Muslims leaders to recognize once and for all that Quran and Islam are manmade. And even if the original revelation was genuine, the persons who received it and those who written the texts weren’t perfect, and they had necessarily an incomplete understanding of it. They certainly made misinterpretations and they had to deal with the political authorities probably in revolt against the Byzantine power.
Personally, I have the impression the Muhammad’s biography is a fiction which relies on real and historical facts.
Amitiés
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Since Muslims believe that the Qur’an is perfect and “uncreated”, good luck with this.
I *wish* Muslims would believe this, but I just don’t see it happening–and if they did, they would not still be Muslims in any recognizable way, which would be better for everyone.
Peter35 says
Yes, these buddhists really are bad news….
mortimer says
Wellington writes: “Still in denial.”
Hollande believes that ISLAM has NOTHING TO WITH ISLAM.
Neil says
How can Hollande make such a stupid statement when these terrorists do their atrocities IN THE NAME OF ALLAH/ISLAM.
They have a sword/gun in one hand and a quran in the other hand shout allahu akbar just before they chop a head off or detonate a suicide bomb
As the article proves that there are more than enough verses in their so called holy scripture to incite these horrible acts
Murad says
How could such stupid people be elected as our divine kings? Are the voters even more stupid than the Hollandes?
Jayell says
Still in denial? Either that or someone like the Saudis is giving him a bit of ‘financial help’ shall we say?
Neil says
People tend to forget that even though the terrorists Muslims label the peaceful Muslims as improper Muslims who do not follow Islam the “right” way and vice versa ………….. they are BOTH Muslims as they BOTH follow the SAME god and the SAME scripture and the SAME prophet.
revereridesagain says
I am reminded of one of the grand expressions of sarcasm ever put on screen, in “The Manchurian Candidate”, by Richard Widmark if I recall correctly, which ran something like this with regard to the perpetrators of the Holocaust and other Nazi atrocities and their constant denials: “Nah, man — it wasn’t them — it was the Eskimos!”.
Gotta watch out for them there Allah-quoting Eskimos…..
James Lincoln says
So former French President Francois Hollande warned that “terrorists must not be confused with muslims”
The French citizens are starting to catch on:
Not every muslim is a terrorist
But
Nearly every terrorist is a muslim.
And there have been a very significant number of terrorist attacks in France…
Wellington says
Eminently accurate, James.
Sobieski says
He plainly demonstrates the fallacy, “No true Scotman would do such a thing!”
Ecosse1314 says
Us Scots are innocent ..always. even when we are not..lol
Fred van de Bunt says
Muslims only have a much higher propensity to create large amounts of jobs in the fields of government security, law enforcement, military and anti-terrorist agencies
“Therefore Muslims are essential to our security.” I expect Hollande to conclude.
Giacomo Latta says
Very well said.
Veracious_one says
hey Francois…do you know what the Muslims are teaching their children?….
Yogi says
What a fucking idiots running this countries all over Europe is beyond me ..
Ecosse1314 says
Ahem…. j biden????
Eleanor says
I really think if you asked Biden what the difference is between Muslims and Islam, he wouldn’t be able to tell you.
James Lincoln says
Eleanor,
And he likely believes that the koran is just another “holy book”, a lot like the King James Bible…
Dude says
‘Do not confuse these terrorists with Muslims’
Then, they are Christians? HINDUS? Sufis?
Read the books, and you will realize that there are only terrorists in the desert. BE WOKE.
somehistory says
It would be difficult…if not impossible…to say how many moslims have ***not*** committed some form of terror.
The males “terrorize” the females and children. Their filthy book commands…and makes those obedient the ones who will get a sex reward…murder, rape, lies,… and all forms of terror( strike the neck, strike terror, beat them, etc.)
If not every moslim is a “terrorist,” every moslim is taught how to be a terrorist , encouraged to be a terrorist, and is called a hero for murdering others. Any moslim who has not committed a terror act is still a potential terrorist.
It’s much like seeing a speeding car, swerving in and out of traffic, no lights, no signals…and it can be called “an accident going somewhere to happen.”
The same can be said of moslims…they might just be a terrorist going somewhere to commit the act that they believe will get them the big reward.
moslims are commanded, taught, encouraged, rewarded…and promised another reward…for terror actions. Ticking time bombs are the devout…and who is to say who is going to put it all to work at any given moment.
This holland guy is a fool; and what is more…a liar. A lie repeated often is till a lie.
Sylvia Drummond says
‘A conflict we do not want to touch’ Most of the indigenous people of Europe – apart from Sweden – would welcome the chance to engage in warfare with muslims if it would drive them out. It would leave cities burnt out and lives would be lost and that is what politicians are afraid of so they crack down on any hostile attitudes towards mohamedans and allow them to kill, maim and rape our people.
Daniel Triplett says
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/muslim-population-by-country
If a state gets on the problem early, such as the V4 leaders have done, the Islam problem can be squelched and managed without a violent insurgency:
Czech Republic = 0.15%
Hungary = 0.5%
Slovakia = 0.15%
Poland = 0.02%
For reference:
US is at 1.1%.
France, Sweden, Austria, and Belgium are at near 8.0%.
So, at some point, the Muslim strength will be strong enough to wage a guerilla resistance campaign once the host-state declares “intolerance.”
We’re all still trying to figure out what that number is, but most of us have seen the “Stages of Jihad” analyses which have directly addressed this point. [There are many similar variations of this, so I won’t ref. any, but just do a DuckDuckGo search for “Stages of Jihad” and you can decide for yourself]
Better to make the tough choices early. Delay only exacerbates the problem and makes the days of reckoning all the more violent. Organized insurgency and guerilla resistance is not the way to go! Get on it early; failing to do that, GET ON IT NOW.
Yogi says
Don’t forget Germany, it’s bad really bad ..
James Lincoln says
Daniel Triplett says,
“If a state gets on the problem early, such as the V4 leaders have done, the Islam problem can be squelched and managed without a violent insurgency…”
100% true.
The Visegrad Group has strong leaders – and have resisted ALL attempts by the European Commission to accept muslim migrants.
They are also *not* a economic “magnet” for muslim migrants in the first place. Very little in the way of free social benefits, etc.
The muslim migrants thus take the “path of least resistance” and head to welfare-rich Germany, UK, Sweden, etc.
Savvy Kafir says
The ideal scenario is for the governments of Western nations to deport all Muslims — no matter what the cost in terms of money or manpower. That’s the scenario we should all be striving to help bring about; and the sooner, the better.
But if governments fail to do what’s necessary, at some point desperate people will begin to take direct action in order to prevent the Islamization of their societies — because ANYTHING is better than allowing your free, civilized society to become a Sharia state ruled by savages & barbarism; and that will be the end result of the Demographic Jihad, if Muslims are not expelled from the West.
James Lincoln says
Savvy Kafir,
Start with the low hanging fruit – immediately deport all muslims who can be legally deported – and stop any further muslim migration.
For the rest:
Phase out welfare benefits – and pay them to leave voluntarily.
At least it would be a start.
Also:
At the very least, Western countries should do a cost / benefit analysis regarding the muslim migration that has already happened – and make the results public.
ALL monetary costs both direct and indirect: welfare benefits, law enforcement costs, litigation costs, depressed real estate prices near mosques, etc.
A separate analysis should be done on ALL *nonmonetary* costs to the citizenry: fear, anxiety / depression, posttraumatic stress for victims of violent crimes, etc.
Savvy Kafir says
Thanks, James! Those are all excellent suggestions! I’ll add them to my quiver.
I agree that we should start with the more easily-accomplished strategies & tactics, for a couple of reasons. #1) To begin turning back the tide of Islamization as soon as possible. And #2) Because those early moves on our part will result in push-back from Muslims in the West, who will become more & more uppity and openly hostile in ever-increasing numbers — and that will help to awaken the infidel masses to the threat posed by the Muslims living among us.
gravenimage says
Spot on, James and Savvy Kafir.
Relic says
Aim High Daniel, Sir, it’s all about the big moves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2JV0btxRvQ
gravenimage says
France: After jihad massacres, ex-President Hollande says ‘Do not confuse these terrorists with Muslims’
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Deep denial.
Jaladhi says
Ha, ha, ha,… ! How stupid are West’s leaders – we have to find/coin some other word to describe them! Any suggestions?
Michael Copeland says
Misleaders.
overman says
There seems to be quite a bit of confusion about this ‘striking the neck’ verse – 47:4. Recently, l came across these different version. This guy mentions Robert in the video [few years old but he still makes the claim] below. Robert probably knows him. l’m just curious why we never see the full verse.
Reformers say Sunni and Shiite scholars have distorted lslam through Hadiths:
‘Through hadith, sunna and sectarian jurisprudence, scholars produced various sects, orders, or religions which were later attributed to their names (Shafii, Hanbali, Maliki, Hanafi, Jafari, Vahhabi, etc) to replace God’s system of Islam or Peacemaking. The breadth and depth of distortion is astonishing. (for more information: Manifesto for Islamic Reform, or Quran: a Reformist Translation by Edip Yuksel.)’.
The author above [Edip Yuksel] claims the real verse reads [he says lsis etc. have left the end bit off]:
‘As I demonstrate in Quran: a Reformist Translation, like many other verses of the Quran, verse 47:4 has been distorted by the scholars who replaced the system of islam (peace-making) with the Sunni and Shiite religions.
Yusuf Ali: Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens…
Picktall: Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens…
Muhammad Asad: Now when you meet [in war] those who are bent on denying the truth, smite their necks until you overcome them fully, and then tighten their bonds; but thereafter [set them free,] either by an act of grace or against ransom, so that the burden of war may be lifted:
Edip Yuksel, et al: So, if you encounter those who have rejected, then strike the control center until you overcome them. Then bind them securely. You may either set them free or ransom them, until the war ends…
Check the verses where the derivatives of the word RQaB is used as in verse 47:4. None means neck, but watch, observe and control. The translations themselves provide sufficient evidence for distortion in this particular verse. Today’s Sunni/Shiite religions have nothing to do with the Quran. See Manifesto for Islamic Reform, which is available at online stores or freely downloadable at 19.org
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7gomxT-bI&t=1416s
gravenimage says
overman wrote:
There seems to be quite a bit of confusion about this ‘striking the neck’ verse – 47:4. Recently, l came across these different version. This guy mentions Robert in the video [few years old but he still makes the claim] below. Robert probably knows him. l’m just curious why we never see the full verse.
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overman, here is the Qur’an corpus, which lists seven different trusted translations:
http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=47&verse=4
They say:
So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks…
Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks…
Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks
So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks
If you encounter the disbelievers in a battle, strike-off their heads
So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah’s Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks
Note that these all say essentially the same things, which just very slight variations–they are all about beheading.
More:
Edip Yuksel, et al: So, if you encounter those who have rejected, then strike the control center until you overcome them. Then bind them securely. You may either set them free or ransom them, until the war ends…
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What part of the body is the “control center”? Since the brain controls the actions of the body, the “control center” would be either the head or the neck, which connects the body to the head.
So this is nothing but Taqiyya from Edip Yuksel–he is saying the same thing in an incredibly awkward manner (who calls the head or neck “the control center”? Certainly not dark ages Arabs).
Note that Edip Yuksel was an “Islamist” until he was imprisoned in Turkey. Now he is just a stealth Jihadist, slinging Taqiyya at the credulous Infidels.
About ten years ago he wrote a scurrilous book condemning those who dare expose the violence of Islam and lumping them in with Jihad terrorists: “Peacemaker’s Guide to Warmongers: Exposing Robert Spencer, Osama bin Laden, David Horowitz, Mullah Omar, Bill Warner, Ali Sina and other Enemies of Peace”. He’s a nasty piece of work, and no real refrormer.
overman says
gravenimage thanks for that information. lt’s strange l haven’t come across this guy before.
Yes, ‘control centre’ is a weird expression and can only be Taqiyya, as you say.
Wellington says
Thorough as usual, gravenimage. Thank you.
gravenimage says
Thank you, overman and Wellington.
Michael Copeland says
Note also that the words “in battle” are not in the Arabic, but have been “helpfully” added by the taqiyya-supporting translators. Properly such interpolations should be shown in square brackets, the convention for denoting editorial additions. .
The corpus.quran website has a helpful feature (top left) of “Word by word”. This gives the Arabic word by word with transliteration and translation.
The original says “When you meet the unbelievers”. There is no “in battle”.
overman says
Thanks michael, so much lying from these taqiyya merchants.
gravenimage says
Good point, Michael.
Michael Copeland says
Hear Trudeau on the Nice attack;
“The criminals, the terrorists, the cold-blooded murderers who perpetrated these attacks do not represent Islam. They do not get to define Muslims in Canada, in France, or anywhere around the world.”
These politicians are so wrong: it is negligence.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/09/the-negligence-of-western-leaders/
Michael Copeland says
“These Islamist terrorists want there to be a war between religions. …Do not confuse these terrorists with Muslims. It would be the fault that will plunge us into a conflict that we do not want to touch”, said Hollande.
Hollande may not want to touch this conflict, but France’s former Prime Minister says France is already at war:
“We are at war”, said the former French PM Manuel Valls this week. “We are at war against Islamism, jihadism. We are at war with the Salafists and the Muslim Brotherhood”.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16659/western-lives-matter
James Lincoln says
Thanks for the link, Michael.
gravenimage says
+1
JohnTheRevelator says
Terminology to an extent is important. When 9/11 and other attacks happened, we called them ‘Terrorists’ because we didn’t understand the motivating ideology underlying the attacks.
But the term is far too generic which is why it lad many people to assume a terrorist can be anything, such as a Christian, Jew, Hindu, an Environmentalist and they continue to try to decouple Islamic terrorism from Islam or Muslims.
I think the more accurate term should be Jihadist, or a label from the ancient past-Mohammedan, basically those who fight on behalf of Mohammad’s death cult.
Actually Islamist could’ve worked too, except that they now use it to once against separate it from regular, mainstream Muslims (Islam), leading to greater confusion rather than clarity.
Why is all of this tip-toeing around Islam happening? Because those who haven’t researched Islam actually believe there are good peaceful Muslims who have nothing to do with the violent ‘radicals’ that suddenly wake up and decide for no reason to start killing/raping non-Muslims.
I think they are terrified of the thought that the Jihadists (terrorists) hold the same identical beliefs as normal, ordinary Muslims, because then they won’t just be fighting a few lunatics but an entire religion.
Jailing/shooting a few bad guys is far easier than coming up with a plan to defeat an ideology, which includes potentially going to war against them. But the more they deny and bury their heads in the sand, the worse it’ll be when we finally wise up and realize we are at war with Islam.
At least there are some bright bulbs like Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen who have been warning about this issue for a long time. Hopefully their time will come when they can lead their countries out of the terrible mess that traitors and morons had created when they invited Islam into western nations with open arms.
Eur says
the king is naked!!!!!
DEEPTHROAT says
Former President Hollande must clarify who the killer was and the many who supported the killer of the school teacher in Paris. Were they earthlings or Martians sent by Allah ?? And if the killing is condemned by establishing France’s right to remain a free state, that it has been all along, why are there protests against Macron. Did he utter anything un diplomatic and unparliamentary ??He was talking the plain truth. Why were there then protests across the world in many nations.? They were all in a way supporting the killer and HIS right to”avenge as per diktats in the Quran, to kill blasphemers .
So was the killer a Muslim or a man from outer space??
OLD GUY says
The answer is simple the MUSLIM – ISLAMIC people around the world are holding up this MUSLIM killer as a hero. Only ISLAM and the MUSLIMS hold BEHEADING as a religious practice if they are offended by something. Ignoring the truth about the violence of Islam and the muslim followers of this rogue religion is a recipe for disaster. If you ignore it by sticking your head in the sand your going to get your ass killed.
NC Gang Cop says
?Aren’t all Islamic terrorist Muslims that subscribe to the the tenets of Islam that are in the Koran and the Hadith. ☪️
And since there is only one version of Islam there isn’t a friendly 2.0 version.
As a multi-decade LEO and anti-terrorism investigator I know that I stated above are true and accurate.
terry sullivan says
moslem no go areas in every french city
burqa worn
praying in streets
macron is a liar
tim gallagher says
I can only agree with the comments of others. How can this Hollande character be so fucking dumb? There’s no other way to put it. There is so much evidence (every couple of days more evidence of Muslims murdering in the name of Islam). Truly, I don’t see how anyone can reach the depths of stupidity that Hollande seems to have reached. Maybe, as someone suggested up above, Hollande is being paid by some rich Muslims to spread disinformation about Islam’s nature. If not, then his IQ must be below 10 points.
michael hughes says
Until the French authorities name the correct word for these killings they will continue to die as the correct term is Jihad against Christians and Jews for being led astray.
David M says
Macron wants all terror messages down in an hour. Macron is a globalist nancy boy puppet, but he has improved a little lately. Remember when he called for hundreds of millions of Africans to come to Europe? Hard to say if he has gained some wisdom or this is just a ruse.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/delete-all-macron-demands-terror-messages-be-wiped-within-an-hour-20201111-p56dip.html