Kudos to Chalghoumi. His position in defense of the freedom of speech should be expected of every Muslim who enters a Western country. Instead, Westerners have kowtowed to Islamic supremacists, making it also risky for those Muslims who choose to respect the principles and laws of Western nations.
One post in Arabic on Twitter read: “We urge true Muslims of France to allow Chalghoumi to join the history teacher and also become a martyr of the nation.”
This represents the sad state of Islamic reform: Muslims who reject normative Islam (evidently not a religion of peace, and it would be beneficial for moderate Muslims to admit this instead of denying it or making excuses for it) are not accepted as Muslims by their more traditionally minded coreligionists. Instead, they’re seen as apostates who are in defiance of the Sharia.
“French imam requests police protection after receiving ‘thousands’ of death threats for his criticism of recent terror attacks,” by Jack Newman, Mailonline, November 9, 2020:
A French imam who condemned the recent terror attacks has appealed to Emmanuel Macron for increased police protection after receiving ‘thousands’ of death threats.
Hassen Chalghoumi, imam in Drancy, a Paris suburb, said he has been targeted since speaking out against the beheading of a French teacher last month who had shown his class cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed.
Mr Chalghoumi, 48, a leading Muslim moderate voice, had called teacher Samuel Paty a ‘martyr for freedom of expression’ despite the cartoons provoking outrage across much of the Muslim world.
The imam, who as president of the Imams of France Conference has regularly called for interfaith tolerance, added that Mr Paty was ‘a wise man who has taught tolerance, civilisation and respect for others’.
But his comments have prompted a backlash, with Mr Chalghoumi the target of many deaths threats online, The Telegraph reported.
One post in Arabic on Twitter read: ‘We urge true Muslims of France to allow Chalghoumi to join the history teacher and also become a martyr of the nation.’
Another on the Telegram messaging service described the imam as ‘your new target’, calling on followers to ‘execute him because he is filthier than those French infidels.
Mr Chalghoumi, who was born in Tunisia, has lived under police guard since the 2015 Paris attacks, when Islamic State called for his ‘execution’.
He has provoked many extremists by working to improve relations between Muslims and Jews, and supporting the ban on the face veil.
His lawyer David-Olivier Kaminski has now written to Macron arguing the imam needs even more protection amid the torrent of threats. …
Frank Anderson says
“His position in defense of the freedom of speech should be expected of every Muslim who enters a Western country. . . .”
With greatest respect to Ms. Williams I take issue with this sentence.
1. Defense of a core, fundamental and underlying principle of a free society should not be expected, but demanded as a condition of entry.
2. Expecting a muslim who at least theoretically prays 5 times a day for the destruction or slavery of all infidels to truthfully renounce a core, fundamental and underlying principle of the slave society of islam is wishful thinking; in fact utterly delusional, worthy of any Viktor Frankl observed self deception practiced in the death camps.
mortimer says
Nothing ‘theoretical’ about praying the ‘Fatiha’ prayer 17 times a day and calling for Allah’s curse on Jews and Christians. Pious Muslims express their hatred of Jews and Christians many thousands of time in one lifetime of the required Islamic prayers.
The Fatiha is one of the main sources of the hatred directed by Muslims against the dirty kufaar.
The key point in the above story is that ‘MODERATE’ Islam doesn’t stand a chance. ‘Pious’ traditional Muslims are jihadists and the jihad is stronger than freedom of expression, or so they assume.
revereridesagain says
+1 x 2
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Frank,
Salut
“1. Defense of a core, fundamental and underlying principle of a free society should not be expected, but demanded as a condition of entry.”.
With limited exceptions, we all agree with that in France, starting with the head of state himself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu0JRs1KrAk&app=desktop.
If I remember and understood correctly M Chalghoumi spoke on an information channel, he broke the silence, he said he was threatened and I have concluded his situation, as a Muslim leader, wasn’t unique.
For better days
Bien à toi
Frank Anderson says
Friend, honored and respected Kevin, we would never allow someone to move into our home knowing his goal is to kill us and enslave our family. Islam has made no secret of its goal and continues its practice of violence for 1400 years. Any talk of reform or apostasy is punishable by death at the hands of any vigilante without any “court order”. So where is the mystery?
Lavéritétriomphera says
Ami Frank,
“ So where is the mystery?”
Keep in mind Muslims are not allowed to think for themselves. They are taught Islam is the universal TRUTH, and that they will not go to heaven if they allowed infidels to corrupt their beliefs and the “believers”. The recourse to dissent is forbidden in the Islamic totalitarian system and “heresy” is main concern for radical Islamists.
In Western World the philosophers from the Age of Enlightenment promoted the exchange of ideas and dealt a severe blow to the totalitarian regimes.
At this point, there can only be a battle of ideas which may escalate into conflicts which we hope, will be defused.
Bien à toi
Frank Anderson says
Kevin, who should we expect if not demand to do the thinking? Those who are prohibited on pain of death from thinking, or those who are too lazy, ignorant, and useless to think for themselves?
I am reminded of the time when my adopted mother was struggling to pay the bills she had when annually very wealthy “Garden District” “neighbors” would send a building inspector to demand painting and repairs she could not possibly afford.
Islam does not allow change, reform or apostasy. Any individual is encouraged to kill any other who they deem to be leaving the conspiracy. How long would we be waiting for the Nazis to reform, and how many HUNDREDS of millions would die before a spontaneous, internal reform movement worked on them?
Germany and Japan would have continued their slaughters to this day in the absence of external opposition. Muslims have the same goal of conquest, murder and slavery they had 1400 years ago, in addition to 1400 years of experience pursuing that goal. Do you really expect reform?
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonjour Franck,
Do not confuse Germany, Japan with the Mediterranean (and Islamic) world.
“Muslims have the same goal of conquest, murder and slavery they had 1400 years ago, in addition to 1400 years of experience pursuing that goal. Do you really expect reform?”
I agree with you, a totalitarian system is not flexible and cannot be reformed by definition. It operates in the mode of master slave. Keep in mind slave does not like the master whose authority can be scuppered so that the slave be freed.
Muslims are fed up with dictats, arranged mariage, endless rituals, invasive cruelty and above all they dream of freedom.
At the present time the Islamic system is a colossus with feet of clay its days are numbered.
I express my support for the American people.
Bien à toi
Frank Anderson says
Kevin, we share complete support for all people who seek liberty. I wish your assessment to be totally correct; but in all sincerity, I will need to see it to believe it. There are too many murders and bombings to give me an indication of the unchangeable being changed.
Mount Zion says
We urge true muslims to allow Calghoumi to join the french teacher reads one of the death threats . There we have it , true Islam and true muslims are the onces who should be in favour of death penalty for offending muhammad according to this post , this is normative Islam despite all the voices that true Islam is benign and tolerant and that the death of the french teacher doesn’t represent the view of the alleged peaceful majority of muslims.
Michael Copeland says
Kill Them
Print Your Own Pocket or Purse Leaflet
Send it to your Representative, Clergy, Police Chief.
Leave it where it can be found.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/11/kill-them-muslims-explain/
Savvy Kafir says
Thanks, Michael! Your super-pithy leaflet is VERY useful for anyone interested in alerting others to the threat posed by Islam & Muslims. Everyone who visits this site should download it and put it to good use.
Tony Naim says
Between the religion of Islam and political Islam, Imam Chalghoumi chose to practice the religion and NOT the political dogma. It is about time western governments become aware of the difference.
Political Islam, a tyrannical and brutal belief system,
fused by the sword to its religious counterpart, must be abolished from its roots at any cost. The west must place its full political and economic Weight in support of an internal process of reform in Arab countries against the wishes of Islamic authoritative institutions. Arabs, especially Saudi and Egyptian governments, must take the lead in initiating a reform process.To make islam more compliant with international human rights standards.
Michael Copeland says
Unfortunately there is no mileage in that proposal.
Observant muslims will not take instructions from the filthy kuffar.
mortimer says
Mr Chalghoumi has flushed out the true pious Muslims in France by speaking in favor of freedom.
Pious Muslims in France clearly do not want freedom of expression and have said so to Mr Chalghoumi loud and clear.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Holy Fatwa Batman! Craighoumi is a true hero of the ages!
No Muzzies Here says
Doesn’t look like there will be a “moderate” Islam any time soon.
Aussie Infidel says
Imam gets “death threats for calling beheaded teacher a ‘martyr for freedom of expression”.
That’s what happens to Muslims who step out of line – they are immediately deemed apostates or blasphemers and according to the Sharia “deserve to be killed”. There is no freedom of speech in Islam.
“It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error.” (Quran 33:36).
“Indeed, those who abuse Allah and His Messenger – Allah has cursed them in this world and the Hereafter and prepared for them a humiliating punishment.” (Quran 33:57).
And in the Sharia:
“When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.” (Reliance of the Traveller, 08.1).
Death is prescribed for those who mention “something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam” (‘RoT, Umdat al-Salik, o11.10).
John says
(Allah bless him and give him peace) WTF, piss off idiot
Crusades Were Right says
I’m always very wary of public statements in favour of Western values by people identifying as Muslims. I suspect that they will be used to help justify Muslim migration to Western lands on the grounds that such individuals are supposedly representative of the vast majority of Muslims.
I don’t believe they are.
Dachlan says
Dont be fooled. This man will make it harder to curb this ideology