The idea of being “nonbinary” is not something that hardline Muslim clerics are likely to regard favorably. However, Islamic supremacists and jihadists do have a shared goal with the Left, and their interests coincide: for example, Italy’s largest Muslim organization a few years ago called for the legalization of polygamy on the basis of the legalization of gay marriage. Accordingly, Mauree Turner is unlikely to get much flak from Muslim clerics who believe that “Allah created you male and female” (Qur’an 49:13).
“Oklahoma Elects Mauree Turner To Be First Muslim, Nonbinary Representative,” by Barry Mangold, News9, November 4, 2020 (thanks to Ken):
OKLAHOMA CITY – Although a Democrat will again represent Oklahoma House District 88 in the state legislature, its next occupant will be historic on multiple fronts.
Democratic Nominee Mauree Turner handily won over Republican Kelly Barlean by a more than 40% margin, or nearly 6,000 votes.
Turner will be the first Muslim lawmaker in Oklahoma and first nonbinary person, which means their gender identity is not strictly male or female, to hold state legislator in U.S. history.
“It feels really kind of remarkable. It’s still hard to put into words,” Turner said.
The 27-year-old said neighbors recommended they run for office last year.
“While I don’t really agree with career politicians, I do agree with answering a call to action,” Turner said. “My community asked me to run.”
Turner said being a queer minority raised in Oklahoma presented many challenges and that they will work to bring a community-first perspective to the capitol.
“A seat at the table is not something we were meant to be given,” Turner said. “I’m not asking for a seat at the table, but we’re here to make a new table. We’re here to create new rooms.”…
European pagan says
What is nonbinary? Can she not decide that she is male or female?
Cthulhu says
Schrödinger’s gender 😉
revereridesagain says
Perfect! Unless she was born with statistically low abnormalities, she is very much strictly female in the real world whether or not she thinks she is queen of her own little kingdom.
Greetings from “Kingsport”, by the way.
wordmacher says
Schrodinger was stopped for speeding. The cop asked, “Do you know how fast you were going?” Schrodinger said, “No, but I know where I am.” The cop wasn’t amused.
Bo says
No, she is just mentaly ill…
Todd McDermott says
I can’t take anymore. I don’t have the courage to kill myself but I sure hope those signs that state “Jesus is coming soon ” are true or perhaps an asteroid is in order..
revereridesagain says
“Deep Impact”, “Armageddon”, “Infinity War”, and “Independence Day” are starting to look real appealing compared to this year.
somehistory says
The signs are true. It has just taken longer than many of us expected. But, He did say, “When you least expect it.” So, we just have to keep “enduring” until He “knocks.”
An asteroid wouldn’t make things better as it wouldn’t be discriminating. It might spare the evil and “takeout” the ones “doing good”
owensgate says
We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.. The Earth’s magnetic field is weakening, allowing Cosmic Rays to hit us in greater amounts than ever before in history. Among other things, they make people do stupid in greater amounts. https://youtu.be/Apacfytkxe0 for details.
gravenimage says
Hang in there, Todd–we need good people now more than ever.
Eleanor says
Sadly I would advise all young Caucasian parents to not have children, as they will be putting their children and their childrens’ descendants into future mortal danger, ie: Hell on Earth.
gravenimage says
Please don’t preach surrender here.
Patricia Koenig says
Jesus is, in fact, coming soon! So offer your suffering in union with His suffering on the cross. And wait for His return. It will only be a few years. But things will get worse… before they get better. And they will only get better when Jesus returns.
Linde Barrera says
To Patricia Koenig- Amen.
I voted for Donald J Trump
in person in 2016 and 2020. I am very fearful that if the investigations into ballot/voter fraud do not prove he got the majority of votes, then that means Biden won. And I see that as a sign of Armageddon. This means the Lord God is using Biden to bring on The Last Days, even if those Days last for a few more years. Very
scary.
Keith O says
I know this will be difficult. But lets look at this from a strictly medico legal standpoint.
What Oklahoma now has is a lawmaker with not one, but two mental illness conditions.
Nonbinary, can’t make up her mind whether she is male or female and
A sort of practicing Mudslime. Oh, make that three, she’s a Dumbocrap.
These facts alone should disqualify her/him/it from lawmaking.
Juerg Demarmels says
And how dumb or mentally ill are those who voted her/him in?
Open Treason says
Was anyone watching the fraudulent counting at 3:00 am ?
Arnold David Darman says
Between the two major candidates, which one do you think would cheat to win? The guy who cheated on his taxes and wife or Biden? This site has lost a lot intellectual firepower.
gravenimage says
David, Biden has vowed to have Islam taught in the schools, to overturn the “Muslim ban”, and to pack his administration with Muslims. Do you find this concerning? It seems not. Your main focus here now seems to be on defending the left at all costs.
Arnold David Darman says
Please cite reference for Biden promising to pack his administration with Muslims and how, exactly, he says he would modify the unregulated immigration from Muslim majority countries? I’m against “packing” and unrestricted immigration, but I’m unaware of what Biden has said he would do in this regard.
Teaching Islam in schools? Not sure that would be a bad thing if RS’s books would be course material (if you get my point). but except for perhaps the military academies, aren’t schools within local, state or private jurisdiction, not federal.
I’m still waiting for someone to answer the question I previously posed. i.e.. what is the shared goal of Islam and the left referenced by RS, but undefined. And while you’re at it, could you define left as used in this context? You know, define some key political positions on issues that constitute leftism and maybe show how Islam relates thereto.
gravenimage says
Here you go, David:
“Joe Biden vows that Muslims will serve ‘at every level’ in his administration”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/10/joe-biden-vows-muslims-would-serve-at-every-level-in-his-administration
He also says that he will repeal Trump’s “Muslim ban”.
And do you *really* believe that this teaching will mean that that the savagery of Islam will be exposed? No–this will be more whitewash of Islam.
“Biden wants schools to teach more about Islam, vows to stamp out ‘Islamicphobia'”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/07/biden-wants-schools-to-teach-more-about-islam-vows-to-stamp-out-islamicphobia
And many on the hard left do indeed hate America. But even leftists who do not often enable Islam, as here.
Arnold David Darman says
To “include”‘ (the actual word used) is not a synonym of to “pack.”
To say one is going to seek repeal of the “Muslim ban” when addressing a domestic Muslim group is campaign rhetoric (if, in fact, those were Biden’s words. Were they?). Actually modifying the Obama admin policy on immigration from Muslim majority countries which do not sufficiently screen immigration candidates does not necessarily reflect ignorance of jihad or abandonment of the care needed to shape a sensible immigration policy. I trust Biden and Congress to adhere to sensible safeguards.
Your comments on leftism and the left are simply absurd – irrational ranting ala Robert Spencer. They deserve no response. And who “here” is enabling Islam? Understand this: To hold certain political views that allow one to be described as on the left of the political spectrum (i.e. on taxation/ state sponsored medical care/ race relations/ ownership of the means of production/ sensible foreign policies with all nations irrespective of political theory etc.) in no way either determines or reflects one’s view towards a misogynistic, supremacist, homophobic theocracy such as Islam.
gravenimage says
Arnold David Darman wrote:
To “include”‘ (the actual word used) is not a synonym of to “pack.”
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David, to include members of a group that makes up less than 1% of the population *at every level* of a presidential administratin is indeed packing.
Here are Biden’s exact words:“As president, I’ll work with you to rip the poison of hate from our society to honour your contributions and seek your ideas. My administration will look like America with Muslim Americans serving at every level”.
More:
To say one is going to seek repeal of the “Muslim ban” when addressing a domestic Muslim group is campaign rhetoric (if, in fact, those were Biden’s words. Were they?).
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Yes, those were his exact words:
“On day one, I’ll end Trump’s unconstitutional Muslim ban.”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/11/8/us-muslim-ban-set-to-end-on-day-one-of-biden-presidency
And the idea that every presidential candidate vows to bring in more Muslims and insert them at every levery of his administration is simply mistaken.
When did Trump ever say such things? Citations. please.
More:
Actually modifying the Obama admin policy on immigration from Muslim majority countries which do not sufficiently screen immigration candidates does not necessarily reflect ignorance of jihad or abandonment of the care needed to shape a sensible immigration policy. I trust Biden and Congress to adhere to sensible safeguards.
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It is not that Biden is talking about modifying Obama policy on Muslim immigration–which I’m not sure he has ever mentioned–but that he is overturning Trump policy. Muslim immigration was down 90% under Trump–all that will end under Biden. You seem fine with that, and are just enraged than anyone dares to mention it.
More:
Your comments on leftism and the left are simply absurd – irrational ranting ala Robert Spencer. They deserve no response. And who “here” is enabling Islam? Understand this: To hold certain political views that allow one to be described as on the left of the political spectrum (i.e. on taxation/ state sponsored medical care/ race relations/ ownership of the means of production/ sensible foreign policies with all nations irrespective of political theory etc.) in no way either determines or reflects one’s view towards a misogynistic, supremacist, homophobic theocracy such as Islam.
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It is true that it is not neccesary for those with liberal views to enable Islam–but this is, sadly, too often the case. It is *certainly* true of Biden. But you are not concerned about Biden enabling Islam–just that Robert Spencer and others here may mention it. I noite you do not say that Spencer is actually wrong on any of these counts.
It is not just those on the Left who enable or whitewash Islam, certainly–but it is sadly far more common there.
You used to be an Anti-Jihadist, David. But now it has been many months since I have seen you say anything at all against Jihad. You seem to be here entirely to castigate those who oppose Jihad if they note that Leftists often enable Islam. I’m not sure what happened.
Walter Sieruk says
This is yet another example of Muslim stealth jihad infiltration into a State government of the USA.
Americans need to wake up to and become aware of this type Islamic gradualism into their home states .
GreekEmpress says
Yes!!!!
What on earth happened to the Oklahomans there???? Was it a heavily Muslim district??
somehistory says
A person who is neither male nor female does not really exist. Sadly, some people are born with too many organs or “parts,” but these people who assert…that “they” are a “we” or whatever other pronouns available for choosing, don’t qualify for the sadly.
Does she not realize she is making a hinney or mule of herself? If she is not male or female, she cannot cause a birth nor give birth…just as a mule or hinney.
She should try a trip to saudi arabia or pakistan and assert her feelings there. She didn’t want a “seat” at the table…she wants a new table and a new room. What nonsense. Does she really expect to be that big of a deal that she can change the entire ‘nature’ of the political system as she is trying to change…and failing…her own ‘nature’?
The Bible says the “female will change the natural use of themselves to one contrary to nature.” (not an exact quote, I’m fairly sure, but going by memory.)
abad says
Not knowing what gender you are is a sign of mental illness. Gender is biological, hard coded into your DNA, and is scientific fact.
Fun fact about male-to-female transgenders:
Did you know they still have a prostate?
Uh huh.
Apparently biology is no longer taught in American public high schools.
THX 1138 says
Did you know a body dead for three days remains dead?
Did you know in vitro fertilization did not exist in the year one A.D.?
THX 1138 says
“A person who is neither male nor female does not really exist.”
But the Resurrection, Noah’s Ark, the Parting of the Red Sea, the Raising of Lazarus, the Miracle of the Loaves and Fishes, the Virgin Birth, the Ascension Into Heaven, all these REALLY happened!
“Your IRRATIONAL claims are delusional and absurd, but my Christian IRRATIONAL claims are RATIONAL and TRUE!”
Gimme a break!
Henry Mansfield says
I try not to be too critical of people on the LGBTQ spectrum, but when I see a story like this the little factoid I saw one day kind of echoes in my mind.
It was in my lifetime that the American Psychology Association or whatever the proper name is officially reversed itself and declared that homosexuality was not a mental illness. The columnist went on to hypothesize that due to the fact that patients undergoing conversion therapy had an astronomical suicide rate the group decided that the treatment was worse than the ‘disease’.
Now we’ve come so far that it seems like everyone is expected to clap like trained seals when some minor celebrity comes out of the closet
Surely there’s a middle ground between that and tossing gays off tall buildings like the Iranians do.
gravenimage says
Oklahoma: ‘Nonbinary’ Muslim elected to State House
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This person wouod be tossed off a roof in Dar-al-Islam–but is a useful idiot for Islam here.
tim gallagher says
gravenimage, I think it shows a lack of integrity Muslims have. They really should throw her out of Islam shouldn’t they. As you say, they’d kill her in many Muslim countries, but, as she is useful for their 1400 long war against non-Muslims, they’ll accept her. “Nonbinary”!! Probably like many people, I hate seeing the English language mangled by the use of these types of terms.
gravenimage says
Muslims will use anything that advances their creed. Later they will turn on all the useful idiots.
And yes–“nonbinary” is a ridiculous term.
somehistory says
They allow il omar to do all sorts of things that women in iran, any stans, saudi arabia, etc. would be stoned to death for doing
Because she is ‘in the house’ and is doing a lot of damage there. If they stoned her, that would reveal too much about them and their belief system. In their eyes, she’s advancing islam more than she is hurting them by being immoral.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Somehistory.
tim gallagher says
Yes, somehistory and gravenimage, it is definitely a case of whatever advances islam’s cause is acceptable to this enemy of all our values. I was just thinking that Ilhan and, even more so, this “nonbinary’ person, Turner, should actually pack up and leave islam because of its very strong rejection of people such as her with her confused sexual identity. I think Islam is evil and wrong headed in its attitude to endless aspects of human life, but I am often surprised that many people, if they live in a country where they could leave Islam and probably not be killed for apostasy, which Mauree Turner does, don’t leave islam since (in her case) it has an intense dislike of “nonbinary” people such as her. Ilhan would indeed be in huge trouble for her lifestyle if she lived in a Muslim country. But there’s plenty of hypocrisy in islam. Anything that helps Islam to impose its garbage on all of us, then the Muslims will accept it.
James Lincoln says
tim gallagher says,
“Anything that helps Islam to impose its garbage on all of us, then the Muslims will accept it.”
My, you’re perceptive!
Absolutely correct, muslims will actually protect other muslims who violate islamic teachings – as long as they advance the jihadi movement…
owensgate says
It seems even islam has its cadre of useful idiots.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the comments, James and owensgate. James, when you say that I’m perceptive about Islam, James, I keep thinking that it’s certainly not a difficult task to be able to see what a vile, barbaric ideology Islam is, (I think it just requires an ability to face up to the truth) and I keep wondering why the hell can’t far more people see what a threat Islam is and what an evil, aggressive, endlessly violent ideology it is. That’s the problem we have. If enough people did realise what a force for evil and barbarity islam is, (and they should, there’s plenty of evidence) then we would be able to deal with it more effectively. Good comment, owensgate. Yep, islam does seem to have its own mob of useful idiots.
tgusa says
I am a little tired of sex and sexuality being pushed in my face. We do have sexual harassment laws and they apply across the board.. At work after being forced to watch a training video on sexuality in the workplace I sent an email to HR stating that unsolicited sexual content is against the law and that they need to cease and desist. They modified that training session right away after that.
abad says
Just think though, with Biden as president, Americans will no longer have freedom of speech but we WILL have the freedom to change our gender.
That is just sick, sick, SICK.
Arnold David Darman says
“However, Islamic supremacists and jihadists do have a shared goal with the Left…” says RS.
What is the shared goal? I did not see where that was specified (I don’t speak Italian.)
More irrational conflation of left and pro-Islam.
Fred van de Bunt says
My youngest son came to me: “Dad, I will visit my friend from school tomorrow and I do not know his parents’ names, and am scared to call them mom and dad, since this might hurt them. You know, like you lot did hurt people in your days.
I know they are his biologically mom and dad, but his mom might have a lesbian identity, though she might feel like a man. How should I call his parents, not to offend and hurt them?”
I replied: “Keep it biologically neutral. His mom is the biological mother, so say “Hallo womb carrier.””
He replied: “But what about his biological father, what to call him not to offend or hurt him”
Me: “Keep it biologically neutral too. Just say
“Hallo motherfucker.””
Rob R (Brit stuck in Britainistan) says
Hahaha…
Check Burry says
Great advice, and funny too, well to me, too some, not to the believers though.
THX 1138 says
“A seat at the table is not something we were meant to be given,” Turner said. “I’m not asking for a seat at the table, but we’re here to make a new table. We’re here to create new rooms.”…”
A seat at the table of reason you were not meant to be given. But we no longer live in the Age of Reason, we are entering a new age of ANTI-REASON, an age of mysticism, religion, and irrationality, a new Age of Faith, a new Dark Ages. Anything is true now if you believe it’s true.
Welcome, sit down.
Oren says
How can she even call herself muslim, when 99% of the muslims on earth, 99% of the muslim schools, and 99% of the muslim nations do not consider the female gender equal to the male.
The enemies of america and the left, allow the left to believe things that are absolutely not true. Like the muslim consensus with leftism. Without hesitation the leftist media sets up the left to believe that muslims are on their side, and much more like the left, than they really are. In this case there is no doubt that the left wants to be lied to, and will certainly vote for the politician who lies to them, over the politician who tells the truth, which the left will claim is an islamaphobe.
The left is afraid to speak out against muslims, and march in the streets against them, because they know that they will face violence, if they do. So, they are aware that islam is not peaceful, they are simply afraid of standing up to islam, and worse yet they will falsely claim that white gentiles and Jews who are willing to stand up to violent islam, are the real racists.
They are not ignorant, their fear must be confronted and defeated. It is not logic we are debating, it is fear. In G-d I trust.
Why not destroy their beliefs with the tv? I suppose A people is permitted to fail to rise to the occasion before them. I am not sure I am clear on that part. It is true that Israeli Jews are not afraid to talk about arab muslims violent hate filled ways, but how many of them know how to defeat the justifications underpinning the homosexuality movement promoted by the 1%? They are not afraid of homosexuals, I don’t think americans are either.
Bernie Loos says
This pull quote says it all “ Islamic supremacists and jihadists do have a shared goal with the Left,” I’ve been preaching this this for years now. And taught this in AT classes and officers would look at me like ?♂️. And I’d tell them the left are useful idiots to the Islamist and when and if the gain control and establish Sharia. They will kill them if they don’t convert to Islam and will also kill all the Muslims who are Muslims in name only. ☪️?
Arnold David Darman says
What is the shared goal?
gravenimage says
See above.
Arnold David Darman says
Above where? Can you simply write what it is or how it is described here?
gravenimage says
Really, this thread is not *that* long.
But here’s the lionk, if you really need it:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/11/oklahoma-nonbinary-muslim-elected-to-state-house#comment-2293288
citoyen says
* Her Wikipedia entry states that she was born in 1992 or 1993
and that she is 27 or 28.
*She was brought. a Baptist-Muslim household.
*She was (is?) a member of CAIR.
*She is both queer and non-binary.
*She uses both they/them and she/her pronouns.
Assuming this is not a malicious Wiki entry by a third party, it
indicates either her incoherent mental state or her wilful mockery of
other rational conventional human beings.
She is neither here nor there, up or down, this or that.
It doesn’t say what bathroom she will use in the House.
Perhaps she is nonbathroom.
And just what does it mean to be “both queer and non-binary”?
That is definitely incoherent. If she is queer meaning homosexual then she must be attracted people of her own sex so she cannot be nonbinary.
Hoist by her own petard (someone please explain to her what that means – slowly).