“The Law Commission is the statutory independent body created by the Law Commissions Act 1965 to keep the law of England and Wales under review and to recommend reform where it is needed.”
The reform it sees as needed now is a surrender to violent intimidation and abandonment of the freedom of expression in favor of Sharia. That’s likely coming to the U.S. as well.
“Law Commission Would Make Mohammed Cartoons Illegal,” Guido Fawkes, November 13, 2020 (thanks to Mason):
The Law Commission has published a 533-page consultation on reforming “hate crime and hate speech laws”. The new bill it wants to bring before the House of Commons is, according to the Free Speech Union, “tantamount to an Anti-Free Speech Bill which is an all-out attack on freedom of expression”. Andrew Tettenborn, Professor of Law at Swansea University, describes the Commission’s proposals as “the Scottish Hate Crime Bill on steroids”.
The commission suggests that “inflammatory cartoons” should not be covered by our right to free speech. The Commission writes: “Several recent incidents involving inflammatory images create grounds for concern… These include Islamophobic cartoons…” The Commission is concerned that, as the law stands, a person who sent another person an “inflammatory cartoon” can only be prosecuted under section 127(1) of the Communications Act 2003. It then goes on to complain: “However, this does not carry the same gravity or labelling as the stirring up offences. It does not reflect the fundamental harm involved, which is not that it is offensive, but that it incites hatred. ” As Macron stands up to the Islamists’ terror, the Law Commission wants to surrender to their agenda….
Ade Fegan says
Dhimmi UK
mortimer says
Criminalize the Koran as hate speech … because 64% of the Koran is hate speech calling for the subjugation and deaths of dirty kafirs.
gravenimage says
In that case, Infidels like Robert Spencer would not be able to own or to criticize the Qur’an. I don’t think it would stop Muslims from acting on it, but it would criminalize Anti-Jihadists warning about the threat of Islam.
You are certainly right, though, that if these “hate speech” laws were not just a political tool that the Qur’an would *certainly* be characterized as hate speech.
newsupplements says
We should all be able to criticize and question anything at all don’t you think? That is the very basis of a free society. There are already too many countries denying rights to their citizens and we can see what a mess they are in, all of them Islamic countries, all of them collapsing.
Ade Fegan says
I don’t see that as doable .. The Dutch and the Indians both failed
No, let them lie about their religion .. but ensure that the official line is truth
Let every man, woman and child know what is is islamic scripture ..
and let every man, woman and child know what muhammad was really like
Make that household knowledge and let everyone know that the muslims are either deluded .. or lying .. or both
newsupplements says
Exactly. Perhaps inflammatory calls for execution of the infidels, Jews, Sikhs, Buddhists, gays and Christians, attending and not attending churches. (We are all Christians to an Islamic incumbent who would prefer Islamic rule in this country as would the Law Commission by the look of it) could be considered at the same time whilst strengthening the edifice of Islam that we must all surrender our culture of free speech and liberty according to the LAW COMMISSION. How many of the LAW COMMISSION members are themselves Islamic devouts or married to such.?
juleonly says
If they do this, its saying beheading people for blasphemy is OK. I rather think that is the hate crime.
Jim J Fox says
I just emailed the law commission telling them what they propose is an outrageous travesty of justice and outlining most of the points raised here.
It is often asked “what can we do?” Well, here’s your chance- send as many emails as you can to this bunch of legal experts without a functioning brain amongst them.
gravenimage says
Yes–all patriotic Britons should speak out!
Ade Fegan says
“Patriotic Britons” are well on their way to being silenced permanently
(under what are effectively mediaeval blasphemy laws)
gravenimage says
I know, Ade–that is why it is so important to take a stand *now*.
Mount Zion says
What should be criminalized is the constant demands not to depict pedophile Mo because it’s aimed at erasing tree speech . What should be criminalized is chopping off heads for offending someones religion .
Dajjal says
Membership in the Arab Mafia which is disguised as a religion should be criminalized.
Jayell says
‘Arab’ Mafia’ is a really excellent phrase to sum up islam, since it neatly encapsulates everything about the true identity of this ‘religion’. It was clearly conceived and operated as an organised crime racket in a time and place where there was no rule of law apart from that imposed by any local ‘warlord’ (= ‘Godfather’), who could stake his claim over as much territory as he and his stooges could lay their hands on. Mohammed’s lasting success came from the religious scam that he and his associates concocted as a front for his organisation to give him the edge over his rivals in the eyes of an uneducated and superstitious local population. That it has lasted 1,400 years is a comment on human gullibility and the sad truth that success can be guaranteed where you exploit ignorance and appeal to the lowest common denominator of base instincts.
newsupplements says
SO… why is it not?
Sylvia Drummond says
If they were to ‘criminalise’ caricatures of Mo, they would have to do the same with all religions such as Jesus, Bhuddha, Hindu deities, the list would be endless, but nobody makes cartoons of them because their adherents don’t drive vans into innocent people, or massacre them with machine guns at nightclubs, or kill people in the street and in Church or place bombs on public vehicles. It would encourage people to make more cartoons and not just of Pervy Mo.
Ade Fegan says
Early 21st century politicians …
Rewarding monsters for their atrocities ..
opening the floodgates for more of the same
gravenimage says
There are some caricatures of figures in other faiths–see Charlie Heboe, for instance–but little attention is paid because Jews, Christians, and Buddhists are not murdering people in response.
Dave from San Antonio says
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”—George Orwell
“Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.”—George Orwell
“However much you deny the truth, the truth goes on existing.”–George Orwell
These three quotes should mean something to those who want and support freedom. The UK Law Commission, evidently, must not value either freedom or the freedom of speech very much.
gravenimage says
Fine quotes, Dave.
Check Burry says
We must make it clear that we hate the law commission for its decision. Flawed.
Ade Fegan says
One small step for a politician …
One giant leap backwards for mankind
Wellington says
Ominous. Indicative yet again that freedom is dying very quickly in the UK. And for what? For Islam? What a monumental waste of a great polity that contributed significantly by fits and starts to the laudatory experiment in freedom first developed by the ancient Greeks.
I am witnessing in my time what increasingly by the year (by the month?) truly looks like the demise of Western Civilization (a huge number of Americans voting for Biden serves as a case in point—but I digress), the very civilization that pioneered more freedoms, including women’s rights and various minority rights (never mind being primary in scientific and technological discoveries), than any other civilization remotely has achieved.
The combination of Islam and the inexcusable self-hate and general ignorance that now infects the West, led by the Left, but in full and disgusting obsequious mode is also tacitly endorsed by many fair-weather conservatives, examples being the entire Bush family, John Kasich, Christine Whitman and Theresa May, serves as evidence of a double assault on the best of the West.
Such people are, at best, uninformed fools. Many are definitely far worse than this (e.g., Omar).
The “trouble” continues. You bet it does and liberty is most at stake—or the lack of it. Meanwhile, it looks like a dummy who is losing what mind he ever had will be the next POTUS. Oh, the humanity!
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
A very disturbing – yet totally accurate post.
I think I need a beer – or two…
gravenimage says
All deeply troubling.
SJ says
This is f*cking stupid
gravenimage says
It *is* stupid–doesn’t mean it won’t happen, though…
CogitoErgoSum says
Those who hate slavery should also hate Islam.
gravenimage says
+1
newsupplements says
No They just lie about it instead and repeat the absurd without evidence mantra that Islam is entirely peaceful. Only the first half of the qu’ran is peaceful as that was the first part of the founders life. It was not until he became warlike that he maintained success. Probably because no one cared for a good kicking so they gave in, it’s easier and not as detrimental to your health, let alone the health of your nearest and dearest. That is how all tyrants do it.
Boycott Turkey says
I read this previous on JW https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/11/egypt-public-prosecutor-orders-urgent-investigation-into-social-media-conversation-insulting-muhammad soon it will be UK public prosecutor orders urgent investigation into social media conversation insulting muhammed in UK blasphemy laws are coming.
gravenimage says
UK: Law Commission calls for ‘hate crime and hate speech laws’ that would criminalize Muhammad cartoons
…………….
Utter insanity. Not only is crushing freedom of speech and the ability to criticize the evils of Islam wrong in itself, but this will only further embolden Muslims.
Will Tyson says
*UKistani law commission
somehistory says
So fools everywhere are choosing to allow moslims…”a small minority” of people living among many billions of people, to take away a great freedom….to express oneself.
God created man to speak…tongue, teeth, lips, vocal cords, lungs expelling air upward., all work wonderfully together to make sounds other people can hear and understand. Even animals apart from the human kind, understand speech and many have their own language. God gave man “Freedom of Speech.” It is a “right” that other men cannot take. They may suppress and punish, but they can’t take away the ‘right” to speak.
Now, moslims riot, murder and whine when their fake ‘prophet’ is drawn by someone who has decided it would be a good idea. moslims don’t like it and consider it an insult.. of a dead and decayed creepy, slimy, massmurderer, raper of children, lying son of satan…and they just won’t allow that. So they are using threats of violence and actual violence, including murder, to silence those drawing the cartoons or publishing them.
Next will come eating pork. They will scream, whine, threaten, murder, etc. so the governments will crack down on the eating of pork…as an “expression” of their “free will”…also a gift from our Creator.
Not eating at all during their faked “fasting” and no drinking beer, wine, etc….as an express of of whatever they want to call those things.
No freedom to express oneself in the manner of dress, where to go to express “faith” …my o my. moslims are salivating at the very thoughts of putting a complete ban on all freedoms of expression, faith…and soon, thoughts. And then, like in pakistan, only moslims will have the cushy jobs that actually pay money to the one working. But they won’t be working. They’ll be preying.
Martyn J says
An excellent post, parallels my beliefs precisely but, the big question remains, what are we going to do about it? By leaving it up to “them” we will lose and wake up to a sharia country. I believe the only way to stop this is to deport ALL Moslems as being incompatible with our civilization. A mass campaign of lobbying MP’s may be a start but I think it will take more than that. Remember Oliver Cromwell!
James Lincoln says
somehistory,
To your point, I was in the grocery store the other day getting ready to buy a pork chop.
I had this feeling that in the near future, a muslim may approach me and say something like: “You can’t buy that because it is against my religion.”
I would reply: “But it’s not against my religion”.
And then he would say: “But my religion is the one that counts.”
Andrew says
The Brits should print out parts of the quran that depict hate speech and also print out some cartoons and start plastering them on lampposts all over the country and see which ones are deemed as “hate speech”.
Words or cartoons…. You choose…
Fred van de Bunt says
The Pakistan government metropole of Islamabad-Rawalpindi is at the moment under a siege of pious Muslims, that hold violent protests, want to march toward the French embassy and demand to cut all economic ties between Pakistan and France because of cartoons.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1590661/rawalpindi-tense-as-tlp-activists-police-clash
The English government with its lucrative commonwealth ties with many Islam countries cannot risk a geopolitical backlash because of cartoons, since this might hurt profitable business of its ruling elites.
Those stuffed bureaucrat baboons should have spent their expensive time to do something about those thousands of underprivileged girls being maltreated, instead of scribbling 533 pages full of irrelevant stuff.
Check Burry says
FGM, honour killing are hateful so ban those too, law commissars please.
Frank says
There has been better sense on ‘transgender’ in the UK recently and the idea that you can simply declare yourself trans has been dropped. I will respond to the Law Commission ‘consultation’ and write to my MP but this issue will require much stronger opposition. The Islamophobia part is mixed in with Hate Crime generally so I think the LC expects a positive answer accross the board as it is hard to say-Yes, we agree extra penalties for crime and ‘hate’ against disabled people but not re Muslims.
Mikep says
The comments about this article are much too critical. Without the civilization-destroying ideology of Submission (islam in Arabic), the world would be overpopulated, overly prosperous, and have significantly less slavery. There would be excessive degrees of modernity, progress, democracy, and freedom. It would be a much much too peaceful place.
Like Great Britain, the Middle East and North Africa were once predominantly Christian. With the exception of the reclaimed infidel Jewish state, isn’t that predominantly muslim region a role model and beacon of peace, prosperity, progress and human rights for the rest of the world? The only question is how long will it take before Europe becomes indistinguishable from it.
Giacomo Latta says
In Britain in the 1930s and 1940s where were the Law Commission to stop people from making fun of Hitler’s moustache? I guess it just goes to show the ”progress” we’ve made in the meantime.
No Muzzies Here says
The UK is already Sharia compliant. Unfortunately, the Brits haven’t quite realized it yet. When they do, it will be too late, as their new overlords will have already intimidated them into total submission.
Mason Stewart says
Most people here are already stupid enough to support banning “anti-vax” posts,
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/11/16/covid-censorship-80-per-cent-of-brits-back-criminalising-anti-vax-posts-online/
so unfortunately this would make headway in the name of not offending islam
livepeanuts says
Should the inflammatory Moslem texts be covered by “freedom of speech” all the bad things that are said about non believers by Muhammad and how we should be treated that is OK and Moslems should be free to say all this inflammatory stuff but if we draw a cartoon of the prat who said all these bad things about us THAT is what is offensive for the Moslem driven Marxist Lawyers of England and its Judiciary of clowns in dresses and wigs and this stupidity is the best they could come up with is it for all that money they get and don’t deserve a penny?
Copy Scotland’s anti blasphemy law (their Hate Crime Bill), so this is what the Moslem (there too Moslem driven Marxists) says: Justice Secretary Humza Yousaf told the Scottish Parliament that the legislation would now only cover offences where the stirring up of hatred was intentional.
So what Muhammad says about non-believers is not intentional!! .. I had better not say “stone me” !
OLD GUY says
Islam is hate and violence and should be banned world wide.