Deradicalization programs are an abysmal failure everywhere they have been implemented. From the Jihad Watch archives:
UK: Libyan migrant who went on stabbing spree in Reading was in government deradicalization program
Gitmo prisoner reveals: Saudi “deradicalization program” is really a jihad training program
11 ex-Gitmo prisoners flee the Saudi “rehabilitation program” and join up with terrorist groups
Jaw-dropper: 25 former Gitmo detainees “return to militancy” despite Saudi rehab program!
Flight 253 jihadist wasn’t cured by Saudi anti-jihad art therapy
Former Guantanamo detainee now top al-Qaeda ideologue — “He was transferred to Saudi Arabia in 2006 where he was placed in a national rehabilitation project.”
Indonesian government admits that its jihadist rehab program is a failure
Malaysia: Muslim cleric active in deradicalization program promotes hatred of non-Muslims
France’s only jihadi “deradicalization” center is closing — it was voluntary, and it was empty
The whole premise of “deradicalization” is that Islam is a religion of peace that jihadis misunderstand, twist, and hijack. Since that is a false premise, and warfare against unbelievers is actually taught in the Qur’an and Sunnah, “deradicalization” focuses on other issues, such as “anger issues” that the jihadi may have, his feelings of “alienation,” and the like.
But since none of that changes what the Qur’an and Sunnah say about warfare against unbelievers, it doesn’t “deradicalize” the jihadi at all. A British psychologist behind a “deradicalization” scheme has admitted that there’s no guarantee that jihadis can ever be “cured.”
“Isis supporter who said ‘attack’ video was just dog command jailed for encouraging terrorism,” by Lizzie Dearden, Independent, November 21, 2020:
An Isis-supporting drug dealer has been jailed for encouraging terror attacks, after claiming he was merely practicing dog commands.
Shehroz Iqbal posted a video of London landmarks in an extremist WhatsApp group on 11 March, the Old Bailey heard.
While the camera panned across Waterloo Bridge and the Royal Festival Hall, he could be heard saying: “This is my spot akhi (brother) central London. Attack, attack.”
Judge Katz QC said he posted the video in an Islamist WhatsApp group to urge “likeminded extremists” to carry out terror attacks.
Iqbal claimed that he was saying “attack, attack” because he wanted a German Shepherd like his former pet dog, Rocky, and was practicing commands.
But the judge called his explanation “absurd” at a sentencing hearing on Friday….
The court heard that he had been on the Home Office Desistance and Disengagement programme”, which aims to deradicalise extremist offenders, for more than a year at the time.
Judge Katz said Iqbal had participated voluntarily in the programme and claimed that he wanted more help in the time between his two terror offences….
Ms Wilkinson said Iqbal had been “covering up his true beliefs” during meetings for the Desistance and Disengagement programme.
Concerns are mounting over its effectiveness following three terror attacks committed in England over the past year by prisoners who underwent deradicalisaton work.
Iqbal was participating in the scheme because of a previous conviction from 2019, when he was prosecuted for stirring up racial hatred with a series of antisemitic posters.
Iqbal, of Kenwood Gardens in Ilford, was spared jail last September and given a 12 month prison sentence suspended for two years, rehabilitation activity, unpaid work and £100 fine for breaching another suspended sentence.
That was for sending a threatening email to a member of the local Jewish community threatening to visit their office and calling them a “Zionist murdering community”….
Judge Katz ruled that he was a dangerous offender, telling him: “You have blamed your offending on everything, from drugs and mental health issues to difficulty opening a bank account and ironically feeling you were the victim of racism.”
mortimer says
The only successful deprogramming of Muslims would consist of convincing them that the Koran is of human origin. This is possible. Many Muslims now realize that there are serious’holes in the narrative’ of the allegedly ‘perfect’ Koran. This produces in them a crisis of faith.
The false premise and foundational error of deradicalization programs is that there is a ‘true’ and ‘authentic’ peaceful-benign Islam. There is not. Islam is to Islamism (expansionist, aggressive political Islam) what the egg is to the chicken and what the acorn is to the mighty oak tree. There can be no Islam without the eventual fully-developed expression of it … which is Islamism.
These would-be deprogrammers place their hope in convincing well-educated jihadists to ignore most of the Islamic source texts that call for violence against the dirty kufaar.
Since the idea of a ‘perfect’ Koran is the source of Islamic faith, the holes in the text of the Koran must be exposed for jihadists and further, they will be required to memorize all these holes in the Koran and argue why they undermine Islam rendering it at best a series of fanciful stories told around a campfire. Only this sort of deprogramming (right out of Islam) will undermine and weaken their jihadism to the point that they will no longer wish to die for unverifiable myths.
Brando says
To convince Muslims the KORAN has NOT been Perfectly Preserved,that it is a MYTH,is the Best Way to Deradicalize them.
JAY SMITH has done great work on that,with his youtube videos.
It is Astonishing, Amazing,that Muslims like YASIR QADHI and MOHAMMED HIJAB and FARID (of Farid responds),
all of them are youtubers and KNOW the Koran has Not been Perfectly Preserved,yet continue to believe.
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
…they will be required to memorize all these holes in the Koran and argue why they undermine Islam rendering it at best a series of fanciful stories told around a campfire. Only this sort of deprogramming (right out of Islam) will undermine and weaken their jihadism to the point that they will no longer wish to die for unverifiable myths.
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Mortimer, since this type of “deprogramming” has never been practiced anywhere; your insistance that this is the only type that works makes little sense.
Besides, you have said previously that David Wood’s videos represent the type of “deprogramming” that works–but David Wood has never required Muslims to memorize anything. In fact, he has never forced Muslims or anyone else to do anything.
mortimer says
The honourable judge was not buying Iqbal’s excuses.
I am glad to hear of the Home Office’s “Desistance and Disengagement programme”, because at least they are trying to do something. However, their premise of teaching ‘benign’ Islam is wrong, because no such version of Islam exists.
All versions of Islam have jihad as a component. The duty of jihad is an inextinguishable requirement within Islam. All Muslims must at least desire to commit jihad or they die as disbelievers. It is impossible to remove the duty of conducting jihad
Doesn’t the Home Office know that?
Michael Copeland says
“Doesn’t the Home Office know that?”
Evidently not.
It was run by Theresa May, remember.
mortimer says
Theresa May was a total know-nothing about jihad. She was a kumbaya-singer.
gravenimage says
“Trying something” only makes things more dangerous if these fools convince themseves that Jihadists who have gone through the program are now benign.
Michael Copeland says
“covering up his true beliefs”
This is the classic definition of taqiyya.
A devout observant muslim indeed.
mortimer says
Taqiyya is actually ‘VERBAL JIHAD’ … to deny or dissemble or cloak the meaning, motive and methods of jihad.
He merely switched from ‘kinetic’ jihad to ‘verbal’ jihad.
It would be much harder to study the historical and factual gaffes in the Koran and then continue to believe in it as a divine record.
john smith says
Thanks to such sites as JW and the numerous anti-islam youtube channels, many muslims have been awakened and are leaving islam in their droves. This is obviously a good thing, but unfortunately It’s not good enough, It’s those at the very top that need convincing. Can you imagine trying to convince Erdogan or these mad mullah’s in Iran that islam is false, it just isn’t going to happen.
Walter Sieruk says
Of course that “deradicalization program” didn’t work on that Muslim who was and still is a violent jihadist.
Nor will is such ” program” have any genuine positive lasting on any dyed in the wool , hard core jihadist Muslim who has been thoroughly , indoctrinated infected and mind programmed into Qu ‘ran based theology of violence and killing for the cause of Islam . As the Qu ‘ran instructs and committed and devote Muslim to do. As found in ,for example Surah 2:191. 4:89. 5:33. 47;4. 9:5, 111,123.
Therefore , no “deradicalization program” , no matter how well intended will able to change those violent jihad-minded Muslims into peaceful men. In other words, no such mind deprogramming therapy program to be effective ,at all in straightening those dangerous jihadist out and transforming them into non–violent men.
As the philosopher Immanuel Kant had written “Out of the crooked timber of humanity no straight thing can ever be made. ”
Likewise, the ancient Greek playwright , Aristophanes ,wrote ” Even the wisest of the wise can never make a crab walk straight.”
tim gallagher says
Muslims lie all the time to the infidels, so I suspect that these “deradicalisation” programs would seldom work and you would mainly have lying Muslim maggots saying that, yes, we have changed and laughing at the gullible, foolish infidels who fall for the Muslims’ bullshit. But I also note that this Muslim scumbag was a drug dealer as well. Hell, hasn’t this piece of crap been a great import for the UK. “An ISIS-supporting drug dealer”, eh. Fuck, what a wonderful addition to the UK society. That’s that wonderful, enriching diversity in action yet again. I hope they can find a way to kick this maggot out of the UK although I suppose that is an impossibility. This man is going to be nothing but a burden and probably a danger to UK society for as long as he lives there, just like so many other Muslims.
gravenimage says
+1
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the +1, gravenimage. The problem for the UK, Australia and every other country that has been foolish enough to take in Muslims is that there would be thousands and thousands of maggots, just as useless to the the country as this guy is, among the Muslims now living in the UK and other western nations. So many Muslims are nothing but trouble and nothing but a negative for the country and, apart from anything else, they cost so much taxpayers’ money to have them kept under surveillance.
Stephen Slater says
Meanwhile in an unreported historical first…https://ommcomnews.com/world-news/lord-nazir-ahmed-forced-to-quit-from-house-of-lords
gravenimage says
Some good news! Thank you, Stephen.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim jailed for encouraging jihad massacres had attended ‘deradicalization’ program
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These never work…