Judge Philip Katz QC said that Yanaouri “had opted to listen to ‘notorious terrorist loudmouths’ instead of genuine clerics, and was ‘brainwashed by their propaganda.'”
It would be helpful if the imam Katz would provide us with a list of these “genuine clerics,” but he won’t, of course, any more than he will explain from Islamic texts and teachings how he has come to be so sure that the Islam of the “notorious terrorist loudmouths” is a false, twisted version of the real, peaceful thing, and why this is so clear to him while it continues to elude people such as Zakaria Yanaouri, and so many others.
“West Sussex extremist jailed for Islamist-related terror offences,” by Helen William, Press Association, November 23, 2020 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
An extremist who opted to listen to “notorious terrorist loudmouths” and downloaded instructions on how to carry out attacks has been jailed for 32 months for a series of Islamist-related terror offences.
Zakaria Yanaouri, 21, of Worthing, West Sussex, had pleaded guilty to five counts of possessing material likely to be of use to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism, under Section 58 of the Terrorism Act.
Judge Philip Katz QC, sentencing at the Old Bailey, rejected Yanaouri’s claim that he only watched the “disgusting” materials such as images of Isis beheadings “out of curiosity”.
There was nothing to suggest that his views were based on ignorance or that he had a “genuine change of heart” from his views, the judge said.
Yanaouri was sentenced to 32 months imprisonment on each count, to be served concurrently.
The judge said Yanaouri, who was of previous good character, had opted to listen to “notorious terrorist loudmouths” instead of genuine clerics, and was “brainwashed by their propaganda”….
In police interview Yanaouri said he thought he had been arrested because he was listening to lectures about Sharia law and Jihad on his phone or on the computer.
He said he downloaded the lectures from sites that promoted so-called Islamic State and included speeches by extremists Anjem Choudary and Abu Izzadeen.
Yanaouri told police that he downloaded footage of beheadings and other atrocities to watch them out of “curiosity”.
He said he wanted there to be a war in Iraq and conflict, Mr Sellers told the court.
He put up posters at a mosque around the time of the general election, urging people not to vote.
In response to questions about his watching fighting or people being killed for engaging in the war against Islamic State, Yanaouri simply told the officers:
“Why didn’t they just accept Sharia law?”.
In police interview Yanaouri also said he would like to live under Sharia law and agreed with the teachings.
He agreed that people should fight to advance that cause….
revereridesagain says
They don’t care about anyone killed or injured by a Muslim any more than a DeMarxocRat cares about someone killed or injured by an Antifa thugs — or especially an OnlyBlackMarxistLivesMatter one. It’s hypocrisy for them to claim otherwise.
Barbara Renton says
You are quite right in what you say, here. If they ever did care about the victims of jihad then it would be ^taqiyya^ (a lie).
Michael Copeland says
“English judges have shown themselves to be lamentably lacking in knowledge of Islam. They confidently make statements which can easily be shown to be erroneous. What they express are assumptions, not grounded in scholarship.”
From:
https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/06/the-lamentable-shortcomings-of-some-english-judges-and-senior-lawyers/
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim jailed for jihad terror offenses asks of people killed by ISIS, ‘Why didn’t they just accept Sharia?’
…………….
This is how pious Muslims think.–they do not belong in the civilized world.
Jayell says
‘Why didn’t they just accept Sharia?’
Seems a bit like a WW2 Nazi agent saying to the bombed-out residents of east London ‘Why don’t you just accept the Fuhrer?
By the way, I think “The judge said Yanaouri, who was of previous good character, had opted to listen to “notorious terrorist loudmouths” instead of genuine clerics” is absolutely priceless. For a start, the only ‘good’ thing about Yanouri’s ‘previous’ character (like the rest of his sort) was probably that he kept his head down and his mouth shut, and this gullible judge obviously didn’t appreciate that there’s the only difference between a ‘notorious terrorist loudmouth’ and a ‘genuine cleric’ is that the latter also knows when to keep his head down and his mouth shut – for the time being.
JIMJFOX says
They don’t belong in any world. Islam is a mental illness that appeals to psychopaths.
gravenimage says
True–but we can at least keep them out of the West.
Barbara Renton says
You are quite right, they don’t belong in the civilized world!
tedh754 says
Maybe they didn’t accept it because it is BS.
James Lincoln says
I have a question for Judge Philip Katz QC:
What is the difference between “notorious terrorist loudmouths” and genuine clerics???
Any overlap???
Compare and contrast…
gravenimage says
+1
Check Burry says
Genuine clerics eh, they wear a white “frock” which makes them seem homely, friendly, harmless, what a con
somehistory says
The answer to his question is simple: Any person with any common sense, and an ounce of genuine morals can see that islam is nothing but demonic filth and ignorance. Only fools and psychopaths voluntarily accept islam and its lawless code of demonically inspired conduct. No person with any sense of right and wrong would wish to serve such demons as the false ‘prophet’ and his false ‘god.’
And, why don’t judges and attorneys do some study and research into islam? Too much denial that islam is the root of the terror, rape, lies, threats and extortion of moslims devoted to its filth. Anyone who is going to make a judgment regarding moslims and their crimes, rape, murder, terror, etc. should be required, and should feel obligated, to find out the Truth…after all, they get paid to make these decisions.
Even a dishwasher in a diner has to learn how to do the job and what happens if mistakes are made. Judges, prosecutors and others should do likewise in their positions. (Nothing against dishwashers. They have a very important job; and I was once doing dishes in a fast food place. Laws affect that job, too.)
sidney penny says
I would like Imam Philip Katz ( one of Britain’s top Imams) to tell me;
Why do so many Muslims, including Zakaria Yanaouri, misunderstand the real, peaceful thing, The religion of Islam?
I
sidney penny says
Another of Britain’s top Imams, Imam Sweeney-
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/uk-judge-tells-jihad-murderers-of-soldier-that-they-betrayed-islam-they-start-screaming-allahu-akbar-and-fighting-prison-guards
“I reported here yesterday that when Mr. Justice Sweeney sentenced Mujaahid Abu Hamza and Ismail ibn Abdullah (or as the media insists on calling them, Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale) for the murder of Lee Rigby, he told them that what they had done was a “betrayal of Islam,” whereupon they became enraged and started a fight. ”
“This enraged them, and they began a fight in the courtroom. It would have been interesting to see Mufti Sweeney explain what exactly was a betrayal of Islam in the actions of Mujaahid Abu Hamza and Ismail ibn Abdullah, aka Adebolajo and Adebowale.”
Check Burry says
Sweeny probably believes in santa clause & fairies
gravenimage says
I think the Imam is more likely lying than naive.
mortimer says
The honourable Judge Philip Katz still doesn’t get it. Islam is not benign. Jihadism is an intrinsic part of the DNA of Islam.
mortimer says
Choudary and Izzadeen are not ‘extreme’, since they are teaching normative, traditional jihad.
ibnrabi'u93 says
they (west) always attempted to misrepresent Islam as hostile towards knowledge, science, bravery and civilization; while, in fact, it is the protector of such things, encouraging any kind of progress and improvement. Be wise!
gravenimage says
ibnrabi’u93 wrote:
they (west) always attempted to misrepresent Islam as hostile towards knowledge, science, bravery and civilization; while, in fact, it is the protector of such things, encouraging any kind of progress and improvement. Be wise!
…………………………
Note that this Muslim apologist does not say how his pious coreligionist lauding ISIS murdering people if they do not accept the horrors of Shari’ah law is indicative of Islam “protecting” knowledge, science, and civilization, nor how slaughtering Infidels is “bravery”.
How is our noticing these horrors a misrepresentation of the savagery of Islam? Of course, he does not say.
Does he have a problem with this Jihadist? Not so he says…
Check Burry says
So how is in your world, blowing up old artifacts preserving anything, it just plain twisted.
Jayell says
I’ve just noticed……
‘In police interview Yanaouri also said he would like to live under Sharia law and agreed with the teachings.’
Simple answer. Move to a country that’s already established on Sharia Law. He could book a one-way plane ticket from Heathrow to Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. etc. any time he wants! The weather would be warmer as well.
‘He agreed that people should fight to advance that cause….’
But if 96% of the rest of population would never agree with that in a million years? That thought never struck him or they simply don’t matter, I presume? Sorry, I forgot, this specimen’s a muslim and only Muslim Opinions Matter (sounds a bit like current political slogan, doesn’t it?).
gravenimage says
Of course, what he really wants is to impose brutal Shari’ah law on the West.
Giacomo Latta says
”In police interview Yanaouri also said he would like to live under Sharia law and agreed with the teachings.”
Um, ever heard of Pakistan or Afghanistan?
OLD GUY says
Why didn’t he just accept the law of the country he was living in. Oh I forgot Muslims who follow Islam CAN,T. Which raises the question why are non-islamic countries allowing these muslim people in? It’s obvious by now that Islamic followers will not integrate into the society of their host nation, but will do everything possible to create a new islamic country. They are not worth it.
somehistory says
they allow them in because they believe these invaders and lawbreakers will serve a purpose for them. They do not realize that they cannot control this mob of satan’s children any more than they can control the wind or seas.
Antiislamicman says
Islam is insanity so we will never accept it.
DLR says
No wonder when in schools in UK there is a protected route for Islam. Teachers are being told to comply to implement non critical thinking by teaching “Political Islam” ” in a more balanced way”. And that students must see Jihad not as terror but with “Spiritual Empathy”. Check it out:42:00
https://00f0c6733675b288fa80-809f3f318a2271b7015489e2f06f95a6.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/Diverse%20Webinar%202%20Islamic%20histories%20in%20the%20classroom.mp4
gravenimage says
Just awful, DLR.
Check Burry says
There is a UK Education Act ( Law) from either 1993 or 96 which says students should be provided with both views in an political discussion or lecture, so if parents are told by child they were given this info on islam , ask if an opposite view was given as well, if not they would seem to be breaking the Law and the Education Secretary should be informed, unless the instruction to give a one sided view came from the education Secretary, in which case we are sunk!
somehistory says
Watched a little of it last night… couldn’t stomach more than a min or two. Feeling for the kids and their parents having to endure so much garbage, filth and evil coming straight from satan.
“spiritual empathy”….what a crock. An evil crock full of filth.
Spiritual sickness and people are supposed to “empathize” with the things resulting. Have empathy for someone who wants…and will try…to slit your neck and behead you.