Seriously? Do Mark Weinberg, Chris Maxwell and Stephen McLeigh actually think that there is a would-be jihad mass murderer out there who is thinking, “Well, I was going to shoot into a crowd and take hostages for Allah, but now that I see that I could get 16 years for this, and not just 10, I will instead become a loyal, stable, productive member of Australian society”?
This kind of thing is just more rearranging of the deck chairs on the Titanic, and yet another manifestation of the willful ignorance and stupidity of authorities all over the world regarding the jihad threat.
“Federation Square terror plotter Ali Khalif Shire Ali has sentence increased after prosecutors appeal,” by Kristian Silva, ABC.net.au, December 18, 2020 (thanks to Henry):
A man who planned to shoot revellers on New Year’s Eve in Melbourne’s Federation Square has had his jail sentence increased to 16 years by Victoria’s Court of Appeal.
In May, Ali Khalif Shire Ali was jailed for 10 years over the botched 2017 terror plan, which Court of Appeal justice Mark Weinberg said was intended to “inflict mass casualties on random members of the public”.
Justice Weinberg, along with justices Chris Maxwell and Stephen McLeigh ruled the May decision was “manifestly inadequate”.
Justice Weinberg said the decision to increase the sentence to 16 years, with a non-parole period of 12 years, was more appropriate to denounce the offending and deter others….
Ali was radicalised by Islamic State along with his brother Hassan Khalif Shire Ali, who was responsible for a terror attack in Bourke Street that claimed the life of much-loved restaurateur Sisto Malaspina….
On Friday, the court heard Ali had denounced Islamic State and that he had positive prospects for rehabilitation, factors which lessened the length of the revised sentence.
The court previously heard that Ali would spend hours watching violent, jihadist material each night.
He attracted the attention of undercover Australian Federal Police officers, from whom he tried to buy an assault rifle in March 2017.
He also went on a scouting mission to Federation Square with covert officers, talking them through the plan to shoot into the crowd and take hostages.
Ali planned to record two videos to explain his actions: one to the Australian community about the treatment of Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia, and another to the Muslim community.
“I’m gonna rise them up,” he told the undercover officers.
Savvy Kafir says
This is WAR they are waging against the West! What will it take to make our “leaders”, and the public in general, wake up to this glaringly obvious fact?! This guy should be executed as an enemy combatant, even though he failed in his mission. And it should not take years of legal wrangling, and millions of dollars in taxpayers’ money, to arrive at that verdict and act upon it. Just stand his ass up in front of a firing squad and be done with him!
Savvy Kafir says
Imagine if the Allies had waged war against Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan by prosecuting each enemy soldier and officer, spending years and millions of dollars on each one, just to arrive at a verdict and a sentence — then millions more to keep each enemy combatant alive in prison? That is the proper context to keep in mind when dealing with these jihadis. We are now engaged in — or failing to engage in — World War 3.
James Lincoln says
Savvy Kafir,
This will continue to happen as long as the West treats jihadis as criminals rather than as enemy combatants…
Aussie Infidel says
Savvy Kafir, The problem is that the people who run our countries don’t understand Islamic ideology – or that Islam is at war with the rest of the world, because they have never read the Islamic scriptures.
I’ve been involved in politics for over 50 years and have asked that same question of every politician and bureaucrat I’ve chanced to meet. But all I’ve ever got is a blank stare, as the cogs whirl in their unconscious minds searching for an answer. But they’ve all been desperately keen to refute the mullahs’ claim that “The West is at war with Islam”. Oh no, we couldn’t be seen to be waging war against one of the world’s “great religions” – that would be Islamophobic.
Our ignorant leaders are more of a problem to us than Islam. On one occasion, when I read Quran 9:5, 9:29 and 9:123 to our local (Labor) politician, he shook his head and replied, “But surely, that’s the ‘perverted version followed by the extremists’. So I asked him to read it for himself; but there was still that same bewildered look. He was a fan of Barak Obama – need I say more.
Our enemies are ignorance, propaganda and a reluctance to criticize anything about religion.
Rod says
“But all I’ve ever got is a blank stare, as the cogs whirl in their unconscious minds searching for an answer.”
The problem, Aussie, is that you are so much more intelligent than ANY of them. God, it must be hell to have to coexist with these cretins. Millions of them, and you’re alone. How can you bear it?
If only there was an IQ test to get into politics. Or even to have a vote.
James Lincoln says
Rod,
Please reread Aussie Infidel’s post.
The post said nothing about politicians’/bureaucrats’ IQ points or intelligence, but lack of *knowledge* regarding islam – which is true…
You are deflecting, intentionally or unintentionally, in order to obscure the value of Aussie Infidel’s post – a tactic used by Leftists, muslims, and muslim apologists…
Giacomo Latta says
The next time you speak about ignorami who know nothing about Islam please include Rod. He is purposely ignorant of all matters muslim. He is also able to turn those who aid and abet murders committed in the name of Islam into mere bystanders. Yes, he is fucked up beyond belief and even more so than the average jihadi.
Aussie Infidel says
Rod, It’s not a question of intelligence, but simply understanding the basic tenets of Islam. I’ve known some very intelligent people who for whatever reason, completely misunderstand this theocratic ideology which preaches the belief that it is “holy” and “good” to kill those it calls kafirs. That’s pure psychopathic thinking and narcissism. But over and above all the criminal tenets of Islam, there is the ongoing, proactive, propaganda by Muslim leaders trying to fool gullible Westerners into believing that Islam is a ‘religion of peace”. And to top it off, we have to contend with all the leftist rhetoric about the benefits of ‘inclusion’, ‘multiculturalism’ and ‘diversity’. while their Islamic ‘brothers’ push exclusion, monoculturalism, and uniformity – all for the cause of Allah.
Rod says
Aussie, as one who has lived among Muslims for some years, and been happy in their friendship, I’ve never known any who could conceivably believe that it is “holy” and “good” to kill those they call kafirs, or indeed kill anybody else.
No doubt such people exist, but you’re not likely to find one nursing in your local hospital, wearing her hijab, or driving your local rubbish truck, proudly wearing his black beard. I’ve certainly never met one.
Nor have I ever met a patriotic young American Christian, proudly bearing his personal submachine gun, on his way to kill some schoolchildren. But again, I know such people exist.
As for the religion of peace – who are the people who can’t seem to stop themselves from dropping bombs on Muslims, or invading Muslim countries? I spent a short time in Afghanistan in 1978. It then seemed a very pleasant peaceful country. Since then it’s been invaded, bombed, overrun, occupied by thousands of Russians, Americans, British, Dutch, and yes, even Australians, and has been a war zone and disaster area for thirty or forty years. And haven’t Aussie soldiers been accused of murdering dozens of unarmed Afghan civilians? And remind me about the Afghan Wars in the 1840s – more armed invasions of a Muslim country? Is it ideology? Christianity? greed? uncontrollable aggression?
Religion of peace you say? Which religion?
gravenimage says
“Rod” desperately wants us to ignore those 38,000+ Jihad terror attacks, and the fact that this is orthodox Islam. He wants to distract from that story above, as well.
Rob Porter says
As the expression goes, ‘There’s no cure for stupid.’
So you read from the Qur’an and this half-wit commented: “But surely, that’s the perverted version followed by the extremist”.
‘No dumbell”, you should have said, ‘This is the actual text – and it’s followed by Muslims with the goal of murdering infidels. There is no ‘perverted version’, the whole wretched thing is perverted.’
Insanity has taken over the minds of Western authorities. Behind much of this is idiotic Western embracing of political correctness and with this a collapse of common sense and clear acceptance of truth and reality. The Muslim world is largely insane, but the West that no longer believes in God or anything else, is fast catching up.
Aussie Infidel says
Rod, I too have lived among Muslims, worked with Muslims, taught Muslim students (radiocommunication technology), visited at least six Islamic countries over the last 50 years, studied Islam, and debated the issue with Muslims and non-Muslims alike for more years than I care to remember. And most of the Muslims I have known were also quite likeable people – BUT THAT’S NOT THE ISSUE.
The problem is that Islam – the ideology written in the Quran, the Hadith, the Sira and the Sharia – is a militant, supremacist ideology which preaches hatred of unbelievers and violence against them. It’s intent is to subjugate their religions and cultures, to bring them under the hegemony of Islam and its barbaric Sharia law. That many or even most Muslims might be peaceful and tolerant, makes no difference whatsoever. Islamic ideology is hateful and violent; and what’s more, it’s written down in the Quran and so perpetuated for evermore as the basis of Islam. But it’s a favorite tactic of Islamic leaders to conflate Muslims (the people) with Islam (the ideology).
Watch Brigitte Gabriel’s reply to a Muslim woman’s question about ‘moderate Muslims’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z_RAbOJcu0
For sure, some or most Muslims will ignore the calls for hatred and violence against kafirs, because all humans are different. That’s just one of the fundamental principles of psychology; but I’d bet my last penny that sooner or later, in one Muslim community or another, some hot-headed, devout psychopath will be sufficiently influenced by that doctrine to either carry out a jihadist attack himself, or radicalize someone else to do so. How many crazies with an AK47 or a bomb does it take to terrorise a community? Just one will do the trick – people react according to the well known fight or flight response.
Anyone who understands Islamic ideology knows that the preferred method of jihad, is stealth jihad. That way, Muslims can gradually increase their population or influence in a non-Muslim community, continually pressuring and intimidating the locals for whatever they want – halal food, more mosques, Islamic holidays, more controls on freedom of speech, lawfare, etc, etc, until they control a region politically. Then it’s just a matter of introducing more and more of the Sharia, until the country is effectively governed by Islamic law. Then, it will be just another “shit-hole country” (as Donald Trump has described them), and can join the Organization of Islamic Co-operation (OIC).
I have no religious beliefs at all (although I was brought up in the Christian faith); I regard all religions as products of the human imagination. But comparing Muslims to Christians as you have done, is pathetic. Again, the real issue is what is written in their holy scriptures. Christians are not commanded to wage holy war against people who don’t subscribe to their faith, but Muslims are – and as I’ve explained, some become jihadis.
You write that the Muslim driver of the local rubbish truck might proudly wear a black beard, but you don’t say why. Muslims who wear beards do so mostly because they are following the example of Muhammad. However, there is no overall consensus among Islamic scholars, but simply different opinions in different countries. In many Muslim communities, wearing a beard is a recommendation, but in others it is an obligation. You might be surprised to know that I also wear a beard (a short one); although at age 83, mine has long since turned grey. However, the difference again is that it is my personal choice, not because I idolize some bearded medieval caravan robber, rapist, and murderer; or obey the dictates of some local religious zealot.
As for the causes of war, they are too many and varied to discuss here. Any one conflict would require a great deal of ananysis. The differences between US (and Australia’s) involvement in the Vietnam War and the Iraq War, was not just because of the different ideological considerations (Communism versus Islam), but the different political conditions which applied at home at the time. And the most recent effort to get rid of ISIS – although it also involved a Muslim adversary, was different again. However, I don’t agree with the involvement of Western countries in some conflicts outside their borders, but I do agree with others – because they still impact us indirectly. You mention the case of “Aussie soldiers being accused of murdering dozens of unarmed Afghan civilians”. Unlike our dhimmi Chief of Army who rushed to publicly apologize to the Afghanis, I’ll reserve my judgement until these soldiers have their day in court. It might prove to be a quite different scenario from that portrayed by the leftist media.
Unfortunately, Islam has a stranglehold on its followers because it is run, not by the moderates, but the militants in the Muslim community. Over the years, I have known many imams, and even debated a couple, but I’ve never yet met one who is not a militant. In that respect Islam is very much like the Mafia. Or rather, the Mafia is like Islam, because Sicily was ruled by the Muslims for hundreds of years during the medieval period, and no doubt the locals copied some of the tactics of their Muslim overlords.
In Islam, there is no heirarchical leadership as such (although they have imams, sheikhs, emirs etc), but they rely on a vigilantist system of control which is particularly suitable to such an aggressive ideology.
Rod says
Well, Aussie, after all those words, I’m still puzzled by the fact that Westerners invade and kill non-Westerners and each other so obsessively and so often (two world wars with tens of millions dead each time, Korea, Vietnam with millions more dead, Iraq twice, Afghanistan, the US obsession with guns and their horrific murder rates, and that’s just part of recent history). Muslims the world over are well aware of it, and fearful of it. Any Muslim bombs falling on Sydney lately?
And let’s not look back further, though I can’t not mention India (1757-1947), Crimea (1854), and again Afghanistan (1840 and 1878) more heavily armed westerners invading Muslim lands.
Yet, because of some words in a book written centuries ago, you accuse Muslims, not Westerners, of being madly violent, apparently despite your own personal experience with them. ‘The willing suspension of disbelief’ comes to mind.
Wasn’t Australia’s entry into WWI the attempted invasion of a Muslim country? And doesn’t this occasion have an almost religious significance to the Australian people? The birth of the nation?
Part of your own “Religion of Peace”?
gravenimage says
“Rod” just desperately wants to distract from thje fact that even though Muslims just make up a fifth of the global population that they are waging almost all the conflicts in the world today.
Muslims attacking Buddhists in Burma; attacking Buddhists in Thailand; attacking Christians in the Philippines; attacking Hindus, Sickhs, Christians, and other-sect Muslims in the Indian subcontinent and surrounding nations; attacking Christians and other-sect Muslims in Iraq; attacking Christians and Atheists in Russia; attacking Christians in Armenia; attacking Christians and other-sect Muslims in Syria; attacking other-sect Muslims in Yemen; attacking Jews, Christians, and rival Muslims in Israel and the “Palestinian territories” and Gaza; attacking Christians and rival Muslims in Egypt; attacking rival Muslims in Libya and Algeria; attacking Christians and rival Muslims in Sudan and Nigeria and Kenya and Somalia; attacking Christians and Atheists in Europe and the rest of the West.
I’ve probably missed a few Muslim conflicts, there are so many of them.
Rod says
gravy, you seem to have forgotten the Afghan Muslims attacking the foreigners (including Americans, of course) who insist on invading other people’s countries, the Muslims fleeing Bhuddist oppression, Muslims imprisoned and enslaved in China, Muslims defending their homes, attacking with stones soldiers who return fire with bombs, bullets and missiles, Muslims rebuilding their ruined countries after being liberated (with the help of US bombs and missiles), the millions of Muslim refugees living in misery in enormous camps, which have now existed for decades around the world, and the many more tens of millions who have fled their homelands, desperately seeking safe places to live in countries all over the world, their own homes and cities and livelihoods destroyed by explosives made, marketed and often delivered by self-styled friends of freedom.
Perhaps you think it’s all their own fault, because they are so violent. They’re so scary with all their weapons of mass destruction.
gravenimage says
Well, *of course* Muslims are enraged at the Taliban being knocked out of power–not being able to stone women in the streets is just so oppressive. Then, their not being able to slaughter Buddhists is just such persecution. Not being allowed to knife Chinese with impunity is very cruel, and their not being able to blow up Jews is perhaps worst of all. Don’t those “apes and pigs” realize they have no right to defend against Jihad?
And if these “refugees”–mostly having left Muslim-on-Muslim war zones–were *really* looking for safe places they would not be murdering the people who have given them sanctuary in Jihad terror attacks.
But then, if Muslims are not allowed to force Infidels to submit to the horror of Islamic law, then what choice do good Muslims have but to rape, rob, and slaughter them? Bad dhimmis…
Aussie Infidel says
Rod, WW II came about because of the rise of Nazism in Germany and Fascism in Italy – both are just different sides of the same evil coin. When did I ever say that Westerners are all perfect or above reproach? The psychological distribution of human characteristics is fairly universal. There are evil bastards in all countries and in all races, but Muslims would never admit to that, since Islam is “perfect” and Muslims are “the best of people”. But unlike Muslims, Westerners are not under the thumb of a totalitarian ideology. Most of us recognize evil when we see it, and have the free will to fight back and eventually rectify the situation.
Also in WW II, the Mufti of Jerusalem (al-Husseini) allied with Hitler, and was instrumental in urging the Fuhrer to use the Holocaust “to solve the Jewish problem”. That was the very first time I had any experience of the ‘religion of peace’. I was just a kid at school when Al-Husseini’s mujahideen went on the rampage in Jericho in 1944, killing Jews “wherever they found them”. My grandmother’s cousin was one of their victims, even though she was a secular Jew; but what would that matter to a fanatical jihadi who believed that all kafirs deserve to be killed?
You ask (rather sarcastically I think), “Any Muslim bombs falling on Sydney lately”? No, not as such; but there have been a number of jihadist attacks. Some years ago, Man Haron Monis, attacked the Lindt Cafe in Martin Place and held the staff and patrons hostage, which resulted in some people being killed. It was no surprise that the cafe owners are Jewish, and Monis was a narcissistic Shiite filled with delusions of grandeur. There have been other attacks in Sydney as well, including murders and rapes of local girls by Muslim men.
You also mention India (occupied by the British from 1757 – 1947); but you don’t mention what happened before 1757. India was invaded by the Mughals and was under their rule for centuries. I have a number of Indian friends, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and Christians; and my wife’s mother grew up in India during the British Raj. And although they are all glad to have an independent India, they would prefer the British over the Muslims any day. If you believe that if the British had handed India back to the Muslims, it would now be a democratic country, you would be extremely naive. Take a look at Pakistan next door – or Bangladesh. In his book, ‘ISLAMIC JIHAD, a Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism and Slavery’, M A Khan estimates that the number of people killed during the jihad against India was as high as 80 million. Also, take a look at the link below to a Sikh site:
https://www.sikhnet.com/news/islamic-india-biggest-holocaust-world-history
You say that I “accuse Muslims, not Westerners of being madly violent, despite my own personal experience with them”. But that’s NOT what I said at all. I said that “MOST Muslims I’ve known were also quite likable people, but that sooner or later, some hot-headed, devout psychopath in the Muslim community will be sufficiently influenced (radicalized) by the Islamic doctrine of Jihad, to wage violence against unbelievers. I don’t judge people simply because of their words, but by their behavior and actions. Since ‘9/11’ there have been over 38,000 deadly jihadist attacks around the world, with over 100,000 killed and more than half a million wounded.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Islam was conceived by a militant warlord, and is still driven by the militants today. The moderates are irrelevant, because if they speak out against what is written in their scriptures, they are deemed to be blasphemers or apostates, and under the Sharia “they deserve to be killed”. More than any other religion, Islam rules by fear.
There are probably just as many psychopaths in Western societies as there are in Islamic societies, but in the West such people usually end up in jail for the crimes they commit, but in Islamic countries, they are often celebrated as heroes. And that’s just one reason why Islam is totally incompatible with Western Constitutions and values.
It’s not that I have suspended my beliefs about Muslims at all. I understand very well that all humans are different psychologically (I practised hypnotherapy for over 30 years), and the processes which shape their personalities and motivate their behavior are also different. Any devout deeply indoctrinated Muslim, will find it very difficult or impossible to ignore the calls for hatred and violence in their holy scriptures – those “words written in a book centuries ago”, which you apparently dismiss as unimportant, but which in fact are the MOST IMPORTANT aspects of Islam – the central tenets of the faith.
You wrote, “Wasn’t Australia’s entry into WWI the attempted invasion of a Muslim country”? Yes, it was, but you didn’t say that the Turks had allied with the Germans (our enemies) – who they thought would win the war. And as usual the Muslims were hoping to share in the spoils of that war, which included Muhammad’s dream to “drive all the remaining Jews and Christians out of the Arabian peninsula and not leave any but Muslim” (Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4366) – and that was long before the formation of the State of Israel.
And of course, the wars in Korea and Vietnam were due to that other great totalitarian scourge of the 20th century – Communism.
But unlike Muslims, most Westerners are guided by the Golden Rule and admit their mistakes and try to learn from them. Muslims of course always believe they are right, but seldom are. Also one of the outcomes of WW I was the genocide against the Armenians – and even to this day, the Turks refuse to admit to this atrocity. But what would we expect from Erdogan,who behaves like a reincarnation of Hitler? I remember him saying years ago when he was the mayor of Istanbul, “The mosques are our barracks. their domes are our helmets, their minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers” – hardly the words of someone working to achieve tolerance and peace.
My uncle fought In WW I and helped liberate Egypt from the Ottoman Turks, who at that time controlled the Sinai. That conflict was portrayed in the movie Lawrence of Arabia; and while it contains a great deal of dramatic licence, the story is basically correct. One Muslim country, Turkey, was trying to control another Muslim country, Egypt, but a Britisher, T E Lawrence motivated the Arabs to fight back against their Ottoman masters.
Islam has been the greatest curse to ever beset the human race.
bewhitebarry says
Ha ! 9/11 didn’t wake them up, so what will ?
Vilhelm says
Islam has waged war ( Jihad) against the non-Muslim world for 1400 years. Now Jihad has come to the west. Islam´s ultimate goal is and has always been to force all mankind to live under Islamic Law ( Sharia Law).
Since 9/11 Muslim Jihadist has carried out 38. 276 deadly terrorist attacks against innocent people in the name of Islam.
You´re right, it is War!
Dr. Bill Warner talks about Sharia Laws.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMwsBdJh9Y4
Mojdeh says
This pure Jihad , and stupid the PM of Australia does not get it. They come with name of refugees and International police is not been checked. They let any murders and rapist and Jihadist in their nation.
This is what happen. PR Donald Trump stopped immigrations from 7 to 10 Islamic nations. Great job
indeed. We need clean and good people come here not bunch of rapist since we have less rapist in our country by Mexicans… etc…’Our military could do it’: Lin Wood explains ‘martial law’ plan for Trump to remain president .
Election attorney Lin Wood on Sunday praised the idea that President Donald Trump could declare “martial law” in an effort to remain in office.
During an interview that was broadcast on NTP, a conservative YouTube channel, Wood was asked if martial law could prevent President-elect Joe Biden from being sworn in as the next president.
“I think Trump will Trump them all,” Wood proclaimed. “He’s also got the option of martial law. It’s been used 68 times. Lincoln had to do it to save the country. Maybe President Trump will have to do it.”
Wood explained that Trump could impose military rule on a “limited basis.”
“I’ve advocated the idea,” he continued. “Go into these seven states, seize the machines, have them tested, have the paper ballots tested. In a matter of days, our military could do it and we trust our military and we’d have the answer.”
tim gallagher says
We haven’t had huge numbers of terrorist attacks or foiled attempts at Muslim terrorist attacks here in Australia, compared to the UK and other European countries, but there are still enough for me to have to think, when a case is mentioned here at Jihad Watch or on the news here in Australia, oh, which attempted Muslim terrorist was this man? You add them up and there are too many to keep track of. I recall this one mentioned here because of the murder of the well known restaurateur in Melbourne that is mentioned in the report. I think, oh, right, it was that would be Muslim terrorist, now I remember that one. And it is always Muslims. Same everywhere in the world. It is not Christians, Buddhists, Jews or Hindus. 99% of these attempted atrocities are by Muslims. I agree with Savvy Kafir’s comment, up above, that it is a war that far too many Muslims have declared on us and that is going on all over the world and too many of us are failing to wake up and realise that we are engaged in this war.
Eleanor says
Tim, here’s one from Melbourne I missed at the time, and it is as bad as it gets. Horrific.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-23/melbourne-man-wife-killed-over-decision-join-is-court-document/8381350
tim gallagher says
Thanks for that, Eleanor. That one I don’t think I had ever heard about. Absolutely appalling. It’s true though, isn’t it, that there are just too many of these Muslim crimes like this one, and terrorist attacks and attempted attacks, to keep up with. I pretty much only notice the ones in Sydney and Melbourne, though I can vaguely remember that there have been a couple of foiled terrorist attacks in Brisbane as well. To remember all these Muslim atrocities and attempted atrocities I would have to write them down at the time I hear about them. If added up, there would be an enormous number of these Muslim crimes. In my opinion it is a disaster to let Muslims and all their barbaric behaviours into any non-Muslim country. I know that there are some Muslims who are, sort of, OK (nominal type Muslims) but Muslims are a disaster (compared to all other groups of people) in countries all over the world.
sidney penny says
“Justice Weinberg said the decision to increase the sentence to 16 years, with a non-parole period of 12 years, was more appropriate to denounce the offending and deter others….”
As Robert Spencer points out in the intro the deterrence factor is not relevant.
The original sentence was manifestly inadequate because it was not the appropriate punishment.
Richardw says
He should be fed pork for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Autar KRISHEN Gurtoo says
We are all DUMB VITS. A death sentence and disposal of the body by BURNING only may deter a future intending muslime terrorist in the service Allah for ISLAM, along with castration. Islam is a CULT OF EXTREME SEX, Maasquarading as a religion of Peace, no less.!!!!!!!
Bikinis not Burkas says
Glad I live in Sydney and not Melbourne, hang on the Lindt Cafe seige was here in Sydney and the Parramatta Police station shooting, cockroaches are everywhere.
Ren says
Imprison then deport.
gravenimage says
Australia: Muslim who plotted jihad massacre gets sentence extended from 10 to 16 years to ‘deter others’
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Somehow I don’t think this is going to do it…