Helge Lindh slammed the AfD, which Yeni Şafak (along with everyone else) demonizes as “far-right,” for its “racist policies.”
What race is Islam again? What race are jihad terrorists? I keep forgetting.
Lindh also asks, “What is happening in the mosques?”
But he is most certainly not talking about jihad terror plotting. As far as Lindh is concerned, jihad violence and Sharia oppression don’t exist, and it’s wrong even to ask Muslims to reject them: “If we tell Muslims what we expect from them, how they should behave, we will humiliate them and reap hatred.”
What will Helge Lindh’s Germany look like in five years? Ten?
“‘Try to understand Muslims’, says German politician slamming Islamophobia,” Yeni Şafak, December 7, 2020:
German politician Helge Lindh, who represents the Social Democratic Party (SPD), in a speech to the Bundestag, the country’s federal parliament, slammed Islamophobia and said Germans need to strive to “understand Muslims instead of trying to change them.”
“I apologize for the violence and humiliation Muslims have been subjected to,” he said in accompaniment to applause.
He slammed the far-right AfD (Alternative for Germany) Party for exacerbating the situation in the country with its racist policies.
“You are playing a devastating game for democracy. Those who play with democracy play with people. And these games have victims, and Muslims definitely are the victims of these treacherous games. Don’t play with democracy. This is what the AfD does.”…
“What is happening in the mosques? What do death threats mean for Muslims? How do these make Muslims feel? Have you ever asked yourself this question? No, you definitely didn’t ask, but we all should think about that,” he said.
“If we tell Muslims what we expect from them, how they should behave, we will humiliate them and reap hatred. Let’s not go on telling Muslims what modern Islam is. Try to understand what it means to find a job as a trained covered woman. Only then can we venture more into discussing Islam.”
Following his speech, Turkish-German footballer Mesut Özil took to social media and thanked Lindh for his speech saying, “Thanks and respect to the German politician Helge Lindh for having the courage to speak about Islamophobia in public.”
Savvy Kafir says
Excellent! They hate us already. (The True Believers, anyway.) And maybe if they’re humiliated sufficiently, they’ll decide to go back where they belong, and leave the West in peace.
observer says
Wishful thinking Savvy…
I love Robert’s writing skills.
The theme, I’m not up to coping with right now.
It’s hell on earth.
✝️
Savvy Kafir says
I know. Muslims will never leave the West, unless it’s at gunpoint. Which is why mass deportations need to be implemented at gunpoint, until the West is 100% Muslim-free. Any lesser “solution” will ultimately result in the complete Islamization of our societies, sooner or later.
observer says
As Robert Spencer so rightly said in one of his videos: “We will win in the end, but it will be by the Cross.”
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Sam says
What to do to the native Muslims?
There are many pure Europeans who have converted to Islam, or, they are born to already converted muslims, should we deport them too?or do we consider them dhimmis?
Infidel says
Sam, whenever they indulge in jihad activities, execute them for treason
Of course, I forgot – those civilized Europeans don’t have the death penalty, do they? B’cos that would be so barbaric!
gravenimage says
“Sam” wrote:
What to do to the native Muslims?
There are many pure Europeans who have converted to Islam, or, they are born to already converted muslims, should we deport them too?or do we consider them dhimmis?
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Of course, the implication that civilized Infidels treat Muslims as dhimmis–second-class citizens constantly threatened with violence–is nothing but projection.
dhimmi is a Muslim concept for treating non-Muslims, as “Sam” well knows.
notonmywatch says
Understand them by what they think MERCY is. As Muslims they can’t show MERCY to INFIDELS, that would show that they are weak, and we know we can’t have limp wristed Muslims running around now can we. And maybe you all didn’t know that Infidels are the lowest of all creatures and must submit to Islam or pay Jizya tax. which if you are poor already you are of no use to a Muslim anyway and will be without head. The Muslims are superior to all others on earth and all must submit to Islam. They don’t work, they are told by Muhammad that the INFIDELS pay to support the superior Muslims. And if you think it sounds like slavery, you would be right. To this day they take women and children and burn the villages and kill the men. This is Islam ask them and if they say it is not true, they will be slandering Muhammad and insulting their moon god. If they say it is true, they are lying because in Islam Muslims lie for the deceit like their Muhammad had lied as Allah is the greatest of deceivers and Muhammad is his prophet. Just ask them, what could it hurt? You would either get a false answer or be killed, either way they will be shamed into a corner that there is no door out. And you would also be killed. So how would you treat a Muslin that you know would kill you anyway?
Michael Copeland says
“…then we fight them, and we abduct their women, and destroy their churches — This is Islam!… Come on! Learn what Islam is!”
— Grand Ayatollah Ahmad Al Baghdadi to interviewer on Iraq television.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/10/islam-a-permanent-war-institution/
Sam says
Wow lol, how did you learn all of that?Are you sure your brain is still functional?
gravenimage says
Note that “Sam” is incapable of refuting a single thing that notonmywatch and Michael Copeland have to say. Despite what he appears to believe, facile sneering is not actually a reasoned argument.
abad says
As I have heard it elsewhere, Moslems need to understand us, we do not need to understand them.
Infidel says
Particularly since they’re the ones coming to our countries: we ain’t the ones going to their’s
Savvy Kafir says
We need to understand Islam and Muslims — all of us non-Muslims in the West — so we can generate the political will, the grit and resolve to kick them out of our countries — all of them, before it’s too late.
Infidel says
I think abad meant that we don’t need to empathize w/ them when they’re the ones coming here!
And yeah, we should kick them out, yesterday!
toomanyhobbies says
SOOOO don’t spare the rod lest ye spoil the terrorist???
wth009 says
The Germany now brought The New Nazism back to Germany. Congratulations dim wits.
Huh!?! says
+1
Dave from San Antonio says
When immigrating to ‘any’ country…immigrants need to behave the way society in that country recognizes as ‘good behavior. In other words, they need to assimilate into the society of that country and behave accordingly. If they can’t do that…they should be deported. The big problem, though, is that islam and it’s cult of followers…refuse to integrate into any society that has civilized behavior.
mgoldberg says
“If we tell Muslims what we expect from them, how they should behave, we will humiliate them and reap hatred.”
What kind of half witted illogic is he snorting?? Why not experiment and tell Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu what they expect of them, how to behave- and see if they feel humiliated? In fact I bet they might feel a little weird, knowing that that’s how they would behave and don’t need to be told, and finally, no hatred from them.
But… muslims, why heavens to betsy, there’s just so many of them that just get mentally ill from all that pointing at the homicidism and what do you know…. they just can’t help but explode in a violent murderous rage. Now let’s not jump to any conclusions lest some more get the urge…
mortimer says
Agree with mgoldberg. Naive Helge Lindh is illogical and uninformed about Islam’s teachings.
It is Islam itself that declares Muslims must hate kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’.
Muslims hate kafirs even if the kafirs behave perfectly.
Allah ordered Muslims to have Baraa (to be cleansed) from the dirty kufaar and from kufr and shirk.
-Imam Abdul-Latif ibn Abdur-Rahman Rahimullah said, “It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed (Islamic faith) and act upon it, and yet not be HOSTILE against the mushrikeen (i.e. wrong worshippers). So anyone who isn’t HOSTILE against the mushrikeen, then it cannot be said that he acts upon Tawheed nor that he realizes it.” [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]
– “The Muslim should regard the Kuffaar as ENEMIES and HATE them because of their kufr (wrong belief), just as he hates their kufr (disbelief) itself.” – from Umar Sulayman ‘Abd-Allaah al-Ashqar, “Belief in Allah”
-“The doctrine of al Walaa wal Baraa is the REAL IMAGE for the actual practice of this faith.” – source “Al Walaa wal Baraa According to the Aqeedah of the Salaf”, by Sheikh Muhammad Saeed al Qatani, authoritative Saudi Sharia lawyer and imam at the Abu Bakr and Al Furqan Mosques in Mecca. – https://islamfuture.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/al-wala-wal-bara-according-to-the-aqeedah-of-the-salaf-parts-123/
-Shaykh Ahmad ibn ‘Atiq said: “There isn’t in the Book of Allah the Exalted – after the issue concerning the obligation of tawheed and the forbiddance of its opposite (kufr=wrong belief)- any issue which has as so many proofs, nor so clearly explained, than the issue of al-walaa’ and al-baraa’.” (W-B is ‘Islamic apartheid’)
– Dr. Muhammad Saeed Al-Qahtaani said: “Thus, it is clear that Al-Wala’ Wal-Bara calls on Muslims to “love” their fellow Muslims and hate the non-Muslim (or Kafir).”
– from Sufi scholar Ahmad Sirhindi (1564-1624): “The honour of Islam lies in INSULTING kufr and kafirs. One who respects the kafirs dishonours the Muslims… The real purpose of levying jiziya on them is to HUMILIATE them to such an extent that they may not be able to dress well and to live in grandeur. They should constantly remain TERRIFIED and TREMBLING. It is intended to hold them under CONTEMPT and to uphold the honour and might of Islam.”
– from ibn Taymiyya, “Book of Emaan”: “… true believers show ANIMOSITY and HATRED towards disbelievers and NEVER support them.”
– K. 28:86 says: “Lend not thou support in any way to those who reject Allah’s Message.”
– In the matter of relations with kafirs, a Muslim should “…act like you are his friend. THEN KILL HIM.” – Sheikh Muburak Gilani
– “The Muslim should regard the Kuffaar as ENEMIES and HATE THEM because of their kufr (wrong belief), just as he hates their kufr (disbelief) itself.” – from Umar Sulayman ‘Abd-Allaah al-Ashqar, “Belief in Allah”
gravenimage says
Here’s more from the moronic Helge Lindh:
“I apologize for the violence and humiliation Muslims have been subjected to”.
Note that he has no problem with *actual* Jihad violence from Muslims–not so he says, anyway.
JohnTheRevelator says
‘If we tell Muslims how they should behave, we will humiliate them and reap hatred.’ This brain-damaged moron is telling us to surrender to Islam. It seems he has absolutely no problem with Islamic terrorism, gang-rapes, Sharia law, pedophilia and all the other ‘advancements’ Islam has to offer.
If you were on a hijacked plane, he’s the sort of imbecile that stands up and says “if you obey the terrorists, everything will be fine…” as your plane smashes into a skyscraper at 700 kph.
The greatest obstacle facing the West in saving itself are traitors like Lindh who want you to bow down to the barbarian invaders. He thinks he’s putting out the fire by pouring more gasoline on it, he’s part of the problem, meanwhile they demonize the only real heroes standing up to defend their nation, the AfD. Leftists are as much as problem as Muslims.
mgoldberg says
Mortimer- I believe you’ve just played Whack a Mole with some ‘muslim’ minds. They are now foaming and feeling the rage of rages at having someone accurately surmise their mandated hatreds for unbelievers.
Lightship Chaplain says
A duh – they should have thought of that to begin with!
The blind fools hated Western Civilization, holding to this pipe dream about diversity and all holding hands together around the globe; and BOOM, now it’s too late! It should give everyone what time in history we are in!
jim says
If we say nothing and watch them create a parallel society opposed to many western values, what will they feel? Will they love us for that? Honor killing, child marriage, incest, FGM, imposed Islamic prayers, halal foods in cafeterias, little freedom of speech, wife beating, hijabs and burkas, etc. If we stand by and watch this and say nothing, they will love us? What if they object to anything we do, should we change to please them ? How about putting an end to muslim migration?
somehistory says
That is why they are the way they are….the mass-murdering, raper of children, lying sack of scummy slime, filthy, evil son of satan ***told them how to behave*** and so they hate us. Hate was what the worthless piece of DNA knew best and he passed it along to all of those scummy dross that bedded down with him in the desert
This “politician” knows even less and is spouting dangerous nonsense, that if followed, will just increase the egos of all moslims. They already believe they own the world and everything in it with which they can do as they please…and they never “please” to do anything good. He may as well be planting himself on a dirty piece of carpet and preying to and for satan as the rest of the moslim world does.
Jim says
The terrorists are only a small part of the migrant wave, but remember that the mostly peaceful protesters have been devastating our cities. Why let this happen, if one can protect one’s own country. Biden will surely help the terrorists up the ante. He does not live anywhere near the worst migrants that he wants to bring in.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Are they too stupid to comprehend etiquette?
gravenimage says
Pious Muslims don’t believe they need to extend etiquette to the filthy Infidels.
Yogi says
He should convert to Islam and leave the country immediately to Islamic shitholes , what a count !!!, We have wonderful government in Germany, I must say , just we have to stats finding, it’s no other option..
RichardL says
he is pretty unique and much loved in Germany. Because of his face he has many funny nicknames. He takes anyone to court who uses one of the nicknames online. He is as dumb as AOC and has the spine of a jellyfish.
James Lincoln says
RichardL says,
“He is as dumb as AOC and has the spine of a jellyfish.”
Sounds about right…
Kepha says
And isn’t it funny how he tells non-Muslim German how they should think and act?
gravenimage says
Spot on, Kepha.
gravenimage says
Germany: Leftist politician says ‘If we tell Muslims how they should behave, we will humiliate them and reap hatred’
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What tosh from Helge Lindh–as though suggesting that Muslims adhere to civilized German laws “humiliates” them.
Besides, Muslims constantly tell the ‘filthy Infidels’ that they should bow to brutal Islamic law. Odd that this does not inspire us to wage Jihad terror…
Yogi says
Beside , He never mention this horrific attacks on Europeans and Christians, ( Beheading , reap, murdering all over Europe) that’s is not negotiable, you freaking traitors, what a government what a government, it’s shameful to say He is a German, this nothing but tyranny against German people, feel sorry for a future our children and grandchildren, a specially young girls , this count never mention that (forcing marriages girls as young as 12 in Germany!!, 4 wife’s allowed in Germany!!, sick , sick , and this clown tell You we have to apologized, ?? You have to be kidding me .. and this football player this Turk , said He is a good politician, hahaha, good integration Merkel, you count …
Shaman says
God bless AFD a billion times!!! For they step on the tails of the Ottomanist, terrorist, Islamist Erodgan, his supporters and their propaganda machines like “Yeni Safak.”
I am from Turkey and I don’t believe the lies of the leftards. Leftards here are seems like opposing terrorist erdogan but actually they work with erdogan to promote the evil, terror religion of Islam world wide and stop the criticism of Islam by using the invented fake word of “Islamophobia” which is used frequently by the terrorist-lovers like TRT World, “Yeni Safak” and other Turkey related media outlets.
Leftism and Islamic-right wing like Erdogan’s AKP are allies to destroy the Western Civilization and freedom.
Yogi says
All true , example- 6 billion euros for this Erodgan for stoping this invasion Merkel created , and : Nothing happened, He took the money and barbaric invasion continue..
Avtar says
In a discussion with Michael Stürzenberger in Wuppertal, Helge Lindh claimed that terror acts have nothing to do with regular Islam and that he does not see any parallel societies in Germany. And that‘s only two of his statements from the half an hour discussion.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Avtar. More ridiculous denial.
Check Burry says
He seems to have missed the fact that mus want to tell us how to behave, ie sharia, no fun, dancing, drinking, music, accept fgm, honour murders, never leave the cult on pain of death, learn how to smite.
Infidel says
He means as opposed to the love that Muslims are showering on Germans right now? He thinks that raping local women are acts of love?
Germany can’t elect AfD fast enough: both Social Dems and Christian Dems ought to be put to pasture
No Muzzies Here says
They already hate you, so allowing them to murder and rape will not make them love you.
OLD GUY says
So the answer for this leftists is to allow muslims to do what they want and that will stop them from hating non-islam followers. Yeah right! Let see Mr. Banker please just give me the money and I won’t have to rob the bank. Makes the same sense.
gravenimage says
Spot on.
libertyORdeath says
I notice that the German govt. has no problem issuing rules and regulations to their non-muslim citizens. I’ve never heard of any concern for their possible humiliation or hatred. As usual, now justice and concern only goes one way.