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Gingrich: 2020 Election is the ‘Biggest Theft Since 1824’ – But It’s Even Worse Than That

Dec 2, 2020 6:00 pm By Robert Spencer 70 Comments

My latest in PJ Media:

Newt Gingrich tweeted Friday: “The more data comes out on vote anomalies that clearly are not legitimate the more it looks like 2020 may be the biggest Presidential theft since Adams and Clay robbed Andrew Jackson in 1824. State legislatures should demand recounts.” He was right, except for one detail: the stolen election of 2020 is shaping up to be much worse than that of 1824.

Rating America’s Presidents explains that by that year, the Democratic-Republican Party, which was the party of the previous three presidents, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and James Monroe, now included virtually every politician of significance and had split into factions of its own. The congressional caucus that had chosen Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe bypassed the candidate whom many considered to be Monroe’s heir apparent, Secretary of State John Quincy Adams. Instead, the caucus picked a candidate who stood for the old Republican principles of strict adherence to the Constitution and a weak federal government: William Crawford, who had been a senator from Georgia, minister to France, and secretary of war and secretary of the treasury in the Monroe administration.

The caucus, however, didn’t have the influence in 1824 that it had enjoyed in previous years. Those who favored the positions that had initially been identified with the moribund opposition party, the Federalists, including a strong federal government that funded internal improvements, a centralized Bank of the United States, and high tariffs to protect American industry, were Adams and the speaker of the House, Henry Clay of Kentucky. Then there was General Andrew Jackson, the hero of the Battle of New Orleans in the War of 1812 and, more recently, a senator from Tennessee. Jackson had genuine popular support, which was increasingly important, as more and more states were choosing electors by popular vote.

No one, however, knew exactly where Jackson stood on the issues. Adams, whom Jackson would soon count among his bitterest political enemies, actually supported him for vice president, albeit with a quip about Jackson’s volatile character: “The Vice-Presidency was a station in which the General could hang no one, and in which he would need to quarrel with no one.”

One reason why 2020 is worse than 1824 is that everyone in that race, like everyone for the first century and a half of the republic, had an America-first agenda. So there was nothing like the modern-day division of candidates on that score, and voters didn’t have to ask themselves which candidate was less likely to sell America’s interests to the highest international bidder.

There is much more. Read the rest here.

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  1. Honest Ali says

    Dec 2, 2020 at 6:42 pm

    Considering that the Chinese Communist Party owns Dominion Voting… they purchased it for 400,000,000 dollars. This is not mere electoral fraud, but a 21st century hybrid warfare attack on our nation.

    Lets also remember that most of the soldiers for the riots were supplied by Freedom Road Socialists… an openly Maoist organization that pledges allegiance to the Chinese Communist Party.

    Reply
    • Huh!?! says

      Dec 2, 2020 at 7:27 pm

      +1. More evidence pointing to voter fraud and communist Chinese tampering.

      Reply
    • Rob says

      Dec 2, 2020 at 8:09 pm

      The long march through the institutions.

      Reply
      • carpediadem says

        Dec 4, 2020 at 9:11 pm

        Which GOP and Repubs never bothered to stop.

        Reply
    • Eleanor says

      Dec 2, 2020 at 8:19 pm

      Thanks, that’s a couple of points right there that I did not know. I am watching keenly the stand-off between the Beijing Bullies and Australia at the moment. I believe Twitter still has not removed the fake Australian military pic China put up to try to shame Australia. If it was reversed, the tweet would have been gone pronto!

      Reply
    • Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

      Dec 2, 2020 at 9:42 pm

      Honest Ali, You write, “the Chinese Communist Party owns Dominion Voting… they purchased it for 400,000,000 dollars.” When did this happen? Citation, please.

      Reply
    • Michael Chernick says

      Dec 3, 2020 at 7:12 am

      I will need evidence of your claim. Not even Fox News reported that. You seem so confident that at least you could have provided date of sale and resultant stock market reactions to a $400,000,000 sale. Which nation do you represent by the way Honest Ali?

      Reply
      • E T says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 8:58 am

        “Not even Fox News reported that”. Lol. Fox News is not fair and balanced. Biden, Biden and more Biden.

        Reply
      • Infidel says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 10:16 am

        Fox is completely changed. Thankfully, I didn’t watch them on election night: someone gave me an OANN link, and I watched 7 hours of Dan Ball and was pretty happy about it. Since that night, even the conservative hosts have been saying little about the rigging, Tucker Carlson had his spat w/ Sidney Powell. Ratings numbers later show that every Fox show has hemorrhaged half its audience – including conservative ones like Laura, Hannity and others. Fox is now right down there w/ CNN and MSDNC

        What’s not been reported is the huge jump that Newsmaxx has had. Some of the smarter Fox talent would do well to go there or to OANN, just like Rob Schmitt has done (for Newsmaxx)

        Reply
    • James Lincoln says

      Dec 3, 2020 at 8:44 am

      Honest Ali,

      For the benefit of Jihad Watch readers, I believe that this is what you are referring to:

      “An investigation into Securities and Exchange Commission filings has revealed that the firm that owns Dominion Voting Systems received $400 million from a Swiss bank with close links to the Chinese government less than a month before the election, reports the Gateway Pundit.”

      I cannot independently verify or not verify its accuracy – maybe someone else can…

      https://www.wnd.com/2020/12/reports-dominion-voting-machine-company-chinese-links/

      Reply
      • curious george says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 2:13 pm

        James Lincoln,

        Good work!

        Thank you James Lincoln and Honest Ali. It seems that I didn’t use the proper terminology in my web search.

        Here is another link.

        Boom! SEC Filings Show $400 Million Chinese Link To Dominion Made Days Before Election

        https://conservativedailypost.com/boom-sec-filings-show-400-million-chinese-link-to-dominion-made-days-before-election/

        Reply
      • gravenimage says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 11:19 pm

        Thank you for those links.

        Reply
    • Vyx says

      Dec 3, 2020 at 9:38 am

      The problem is that most politicians on a national level in BOTH parties are owned by the Chinese, and actually want Biden, who is the status quo. They don’t give a damn about America, just about the Chinese cash flowing into their bank accounts.

      Reply
    • Brian Hoff says

      Dec 3, 2020 at 11:40 am

      Total false far rightwing conspiracy theories. It is america by than wallstreet faince company. The American army didnot raid any company office around the world as they have no outside america.

      Reply
      • E T says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 3:21 pm

        WARNING anything Brian Huff spews can not be verified.

        Reply
      • gravenimage says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 11:23 pm

        I have mentioned this before, but it bears repeating–“Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–has said before that when he and his coreligionists reach sufficient numbers that they will destroy the US Constitution and replace it with brutal Shari’ah law.

        So his posing as a defender of democracy here is just grotesque.

        Reply
  2. Huh!?! says

    Dec 2, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    I keep reading and hearing about all this fraud and it appears to be moving forward towards the SCOTUS. As citizens and voters of the U.S.I believe that there are enough of Uncle Sam’s kids that we can get President Harris / Puppet man out of office. Are election laws have clearly been broken. From what I have read Biden has admitted that the democrats have created the best voter fraud machine in history. Biden also stated that he did not have to campaign to win this election.Pelosi admitted Trump would be ahead on election night but would not win. It has been said the if someone tells you who they are believe them. What information does/did Biden and Pelosi have? What has happened is the area of high crimes and misdemeanors as grounds for impeachment. Isn’t interfering with the electoral process treason?

    I know that there cannot be a re-call election for the office of president or for members of congress. There must be a workaround for this so that We The People can stop Harris / Puppet man. I mean beyond voting. Are there any petitions, real ones and not just click bait going around to arrange for this to happen? By 2022 our votes may not mean anything. It does not look like our votes mean much now.

    I do not believe that Harris / Puppet man can get away with destroying or national security, destroy our borders, and other aspects of our country without being stopped. BLM, Anti-Fa, Islam do not have the majority yet. 1) How can we stop that from happening and 2) get these two out?

    Side note: Many years ago I read an interview with the actress Lauren Bacall. At first she sided with the acting community against McCarthy. Later she turned on them. When asked why she said she found out they were communists.

    Reply
    • Michael Chernick says

      Dec 3, 2020 at 7:20 am

      Lauren Bacall was a decent sex symbol not an academic. McCarthy died a delusional alcoholic desperate for attention. He committed political suicide attacking General George Marshall and the army. Independent thinkers take all these exaggerations with a grain of salt

      Reply
  3. curious george says

    Dec 2, 2020 at 7:21 pm

    Honest Ali says

    Considering that the Chinese Communist Party owns Dominion Voting… they purchased it for 400,000,000 dollars. This is not mere electoral fraud, but a 21st century hybrid warfare attack on our nation.
    ………………………….

    Source please.

    LOOK Who Owns Dominion Voting Systems: Politically Motivated PRIVATE Equity NY Hedge Fund

    https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/look-who-owns-dominion-voting-systems-politically-motivated-private-equity-ny-hedge-fund.html/

    Reply
    • Honest Ali says

      Dec 2, 2020 at 7:53 pm

      Stay up to date, will you?

      “On Oct 8, 2020, Staple Street Capital filed SEC Form D offerings and sales amount of $400,000,000 with the Sales Compensation Recipient identified as UBS Securities,”

      …another payment of $200,000,000 was received in December 2014.

      “UBS Securities is a Swiss investment bank which owns 24.99% of UBS Securities Co LTD, a Chinese Investment Bank. The remaining 75% of UBS Securities CO LTD is owned by the Chinese government,”

      The overall owners of UBS Securities Co LTD are;

      – Beijing Guoxiang (33%)
      – UBS (24.99%)
      – Guangdong Comm. Group [zh] (14.01%)
      – China Guodian (14%)
      – COFCO Group (14%)

      Aside from UBS, the other four owners of UBS Securities are all Communist Chinese front groups.

      “UBS Securities is a swiss investment bank which owns 24.99% of UBS Securities Co LTD, a Chinese Investment Bank. The remaining 75% of UBS Securities CO LTD is owned by the Chinese government,”

      Beijing Guoxiang is a state owned asset.

      Guangdong Comm. Group 100% stakeholder is the Guangdong Provincial Government.

      China Guodian is state owned enterprise administered for the SASAC for the state Council

      COFCO Group is a state owned enterprise under the direct supervision of the SASAC.

      SASAC The State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission of the State Council (SASAC) is a special commission of the People’s Republic of China, directly under the State Council.

      Reply
      • Rob says

        Dec 2, 2020 at 10:14 pm

        As a commentator on Fox remarked:
        ‘Trump concentrated on the campaign, Biden concentrated on the election’.
        No wonder he kept quiet in the bunker. He was likely receiving daily updates on how the ‘fix’ was going.
        BTW Why has no-one asked Biden ‘Why, if you never spoke to Hunter about business, you were so insistent on Crimea ditching the prosecutor who was looking into Hunter’s employer Burisma?’
        If you ever want a visual of the ‘ugly American’ look at the clip of Biden bragging about witholding aid to Crimea as quid pro quo.

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      • Paul says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 3:29 am

        If the Chinese determine the election winner then they chose Trump last time. That was a fraud on Crooked Clinton. I didn’t want to see her in office but you can’t scream fraud when you don’t like the outcome but put your head in the sand when you agree with the outcome.

        Reply
  4. curious george says

    Dec 2, 2020 at 8:28 pm

    Honest Ali ,

    Why the sarcasm? I did ask politely.

    You’re providing information that I haven’t heard or seen before. I wonder how many people here at JW are aware of this.

    Now you have provided more information, but not the source of the information. I simply want to know where you are getting this information from. That seems to be a reasonable request.

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    • gravenimage says

      Dec 2, 2020 at 10:55 pm

      Here’s what the creator of Dominion Voting Systems has to say, for what it’s worth:

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/fake-claims-about-dominion-voting-systems-do-real-damage-11606755399

      https://www.dominionvoting.com/dominion-statement-on-sidney-powell-charges/

      Reply
      • curious george says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 12:12 am

        Thank you, gravenimage,

        Frankly, I’m starting to suffer from data overload. Trying to sort the wheat from the chaff is becoming more difficult by the day.

        Recently on 2 programs that I listen to, each had a guest that travels extensively throughout the United States. One is a Canadian citizen who travels throughout the United States on business, the other is an American who also travels throughout the USA for business and pleasure, the children are home schooled, so, the whole family travels together in an RV.

        Both of these men had similar reports, that almost everywhere they traveled there was a lot of enthusiasm for Trump, including signs and posters with little to none for Biden.

        Yesterday, while waiting at the Deli counter, I casually turned to the lady standing near me and simply said, hi, how are you doing today. Her reply, as best I can remember was, “I’m still trying to recover from this election, Trump in my opinion won, it’s being stolen from him.”

        I was somewhat surprised as she had a very heavy New York accent, which she confirmed that she is from upstate New York. She told me that her entire family and most everyone she knows, voted for Trump. She confirmed what the 2 guests above had to say.

        “A day without sunshine is like, you know, night.”
        – Steve martin (1945-)

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        • gravenimage says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 12:45 am

          Thanks, curious george. And I know what you mean about information overload. Sorry to have added to that.

      • Infidel says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 10:09 am

        Was watching the Michigan hearings last night. As one witness Col Waldron pointed out, the forensics data showed that the number of votes was calculated, as opposed to counted: it’s what one gets when what should be pure whole numbers (since fractions of people don’t vote) turned out to be decimal numbers w/ 3 significant figures. (I personally thought that the coders were pretty stupid to overlook obvious refinements to their algorithm, such as rounding down the results of their calculations while shifting votes)

        Sorry, Col Waldron’s testimony was at a hearing, where he was under oath. Dominion’s statement above, or the WSJ’s article have no pain of perjury attached to them. That should tell one what to believe, regardless of who one supports in this argument

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        • curious george says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 1:17 pm

          gravenimage, Honest Ali and Infidel,

          This is an except from an e-mail I received today from Liberty Counsel.

          https://www.lc.org/

          “Last week, in an effort to silence rampant internet rumors, Dominion Voting Systems issued a statement claiming unequivocally that none of their software, servers or data was held or processed outside the United States.

          But this week, an entirely different story is coming to light.

          An affidavit, sworn under the penalty of perjury, by yet another former 305th Military Intelligence Battalion service person, which I have in hand, shows that Dominion lied.

          According to sworn testimony, which includes screen shots and data tracking analysis, this cyber security expert was able to capture server IDs linked to Dominion Voting Systems via their tabulation partner, Edison Research.

          Though the company claims it has no foreign servers, the evidence shows active servers in both Serbia and Iran.

          But there’s another new revelation that is of great concern. While many “fact checkers” have been claiming Dominion Voting Systems has no foreign investment, that, too, is an outrageous lie.

          According to the U.S. Patent office, CHINA, (via HSBC bank as the collateral agent), holds the liens on several Dominion software patents – including the patent on election software security.

          More disturbing revelations about the election are coming to light every day. Liberty Counsel was deeply involved in the 2000 election and are now similarly involved in the 2020 election. This one, however, is far more critical because the implications of fraud and malfeasance go far beyond this single election.

          In this and future elections, we are working to ensure that your vote is fairly counted. America must not become Venezuela where elections are a complete farce. We remain committed to seeing that every legal vote in the 2020 election is counted… and that every illegal vote is thrown out!”

          This seems to add credibility to this.

          Lt. Gen. McInerney: There Were Casualties in Special Forces Raid to Get Servers From CIA Facility

          https://thenewamerican.com/lt-gen-mcinerney-there-were-casualties-in-special-forces-raid-to-get-servers-from-cia-facility/
          Reply

          “If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember anything.”
          – Mark Twain (1835-1910)

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 11:25 pm

          Thanks, curious george.

  5. Infidel says

    Dec 2, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    Question: do all the states have to certify their electors in order for the electoral college to kick in, or just enough to put a candidate over that magic 270 number?

    If the former, can’t any of the states just decline to certify, and force the election to go to the House and Senate, where the members would elect the president and vice president based on the state-wise plurality?

    Watching the Michigan hearings right now – saw the Arizona one 2 nights ago on OANN

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    • curious george says

      Dec 2, 2020 at 9:53 pm

      Infidel,

      This “might” answer your question.

      “When the election results will be certified and the Electoral College will vote to make Trump’s defeat official.”

      https://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-electoral-college-works-timeline-2020-8?op=1

      Reply
  6. Adam says

    Dec 2, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    Why not steal the elections? No one has stopped them and no one will. They have been lying and cheating at the local and state levels for decades. This has been the strategy since the 1990’s by the party of treason.
    They don’t care that you know because its past the point and they know it.
    There are no safe-guards, no “good guys” coming. We the people are it and sadly most seem to not give a shit about “it”.

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  7. Brando says

    Dec 2, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    There is this:

    “Electoral fraud: World’s No. 1 cybersecurity expert joins Sidney Powell’s team”

    INFO 1

    “One of the world’s leading experts in cybersecurity and cyber-fraud has joined the legal team of attorney Sidney Powell, who just days ago filed an extensive complaint on election fraud. ”

    INFO 2

    “The specialist assured that hundreds of thousands of votes for President Donald Trump were

    transferred to the Democratic candidate Joe Biden.”

    INFO 3

    “According to the conservative magazine American Thinker, Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia is one of the most “weightiest names in the world” when it comes to detecting cybersecurity problems.

    The report by journalist Andrea Widburg notes that Keshavarz-Nia stated under oath that there was massive computer fraud in the 2020 election, all of it intended to secure a victory for Joe Biden.””

    INFO 4

    “Widburg highlighted the expert’s authoritative word, as he has “extraordinary academic and practical skills in cyber-fraud detection and analysis.”

    In fact, in September of this year, The New York Times noted that those who worked with Keshavarz-Nia described him as

    “always the smartest person in the room.”

    Keshavarz-Nia has 35 years of experience

    conducting technical assessments, mathematical modeling, cyberattack pattern analysis, and security intelligence.”

    PLUS MORE

    Here:

    https://thebl.com/us-news/electoral-fraud-worlds-no-1-cyber-security-expert-joins-sidney-powells-team.html

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    • Brando says

      Dec 2, 2020 at 10:09 pm

      I should add that if all this gets to the SUPREME COURT,it is 100% Certain that the 3 DEMOCRAT judges there will

      REJECT all of the info given by worldcalss cyberfraud expert DR NAVID KESHAVARZ-NIA as being No Proof of Fraud.

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    • Keys says

      Dec 2, 2020 at 10:32 pm

      All this election machine “finagling” makes one wonder what was on Hillary’s “bleached” computer files and “smashed” cell phones. Lots of people must know things, but are afraid or complicit.

      There are reasons for these nefarious actions.

      Reply
      • curious george says

        Dec 2, 2020 at 11:19 pm

        Keys says

        All this election machine “finagling” makes one wonder what was on Hillary’s “bleached” computer files and “smashed” cell phones. Lots of people must know things, but are afraid or complicit.

        There are reasons for these nefarious actions.
        …………………………………………..

        Good point.

        In some of Tom Clancy’s novels he used the acronym M.I.C.E., to describe why some people might do what they do.

        Money
        Ideology
        Coercion
        Ego

        It’s been rumored, that one of the reasons the late J. Edgar Hoover stayed in power at the FBI, was through compromise and coercion. Apparently, he had gathered dirt on many influential people, which put them in a compromising situation, one in which Hoover could use to coerce them into submission.

        Now consider that we are in the 21st Century with the technology that is available to gather information and spy on people. Is it possible that is why the bad guys seem to be in control? That they have gathered large amounts of compromising material on people in key decision making positions, people who are being coerced to do their bidding?

        There are times when truth is stranger than fiction.

        Here is an interesting article, something that one would find in a Tom Clancy novel.

        Lt. Gen. McInerney: There Were Casualties in Special Forces Raid to Get Servers From CIA Facility

        https://thenewamerican.com/lt-gen-mcinerney-there-were-casualties-in-special-forces-raid-to-get-servers-from-cia-facility/

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        • Keys says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 11:07 am

          Thank you for your reply, curious george.

          “Is it possible that is why the bad guys seem to be in control? That they have gathered large amounts of compromising material on people in key decision making positions, people who are being coerced to do their bidding?”

          No doubt, but most of us who are curious have no power or way to connect those dots. Many wonder, especially, whether Chief Justice Roberts fits; and now I wonder about the owners and reporters of Fox News. Who is gathering this “dirt” on these key people ?
          China ? (no doubt), but who else ?

        • curious george says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 1:59 pm

          Keys,

          Thank you for your reply.

          I was going to mention John Roberts, but decided that might be misinterpreted as “conspiracy theory” and chose to leave him out of the topic. However, it does seem reasonable that he is being coerced as he has made some unexpected decisions.

          The players seem to be many and varied, I agree that China is deeply involved along with Cuba, Iran, North Korea and maybe Venezuela, along with South Korea, as it seems the current government is aligning itself with China.

          This might help;

          The Global Elite: Who Are They?

          https://www.technocracy.news/the-global-elite-who-are-they/

          The bottom line, the World is being conditioned to accept a One World Government.

          There are powerful forces working toward this goal. It’s NOT a matter of if, but WHEN it will happen. The pieces are cleverly and incrementally being put in place.

          Check out – The United Nations Agenda 21 now Agenda 30 and The World Economic Forum’s Great Reset to name a few.

          Remember when Rahm Emanuel was Chief of Staff for Obama, he said (Courtesy of Wikipedia)

          “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.” Emanuel explained later, “… what I said was, never allow a good crisis to go to waste when it’s an opportunity to do things that YOU HAD NEVER considered, or that you didn’t think were possible.” (emphasis added)

          The Chinese Communist Party Wuhan Virus (COVID-19) certainly meets that criteria. Governments around the World are using this virus as an excuse to do precisely what Rahm Emanuel recommended.

          “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
          – Ephesians 6:12

    • Infidel says

      Dec 3, 2020 at 10:30 am

      We need voting machines so that election returns can be known soon after polls close. However, this saga has proved that those voting machines can’t simply be specially customized computers! They need to be made from the ground up systems, which do only 3 things:

      – Enable a voter to vote, and store the results at any given time
      – Output the result at the close of voting
      – Transmit the results to the state or county election commission at close of voting

      That way, it can’t be ‘programmed’ to shift votes, or contain any algorithms!

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      • Infidel says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 10:32 am

        Oh, and one more thing – no firmware updates!!!

        Reply
  8. tgusa says

    Dec 3, 2020 at 12:01 am

    The Republic was already divided and even the divided were in many ways divided. This election has torn that already divided country asunder. Our most fundamental right, our vote, has been compromised. If this result holds the three branches of the US government, Executive, Legislative, Judiciary are no longer valid.

    We shall see if Lincoln was correct when he stated “A nation divided against itself cannot stand.”

    From what I have observed from democrats we would have been better off letting democrat states secede keeping their slaves.

    I am sure that Americas enemies are laughing and her so called allies don’t even care.

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  9. Tom W Harris says

    Dec 3, 2020 at 1:12 am

    Newt’s nuts.

    Reply
  10. Rod says

    Dec 3, 2020 at 2:29 am

    The truly extraordinary feature of this election, if what Gingrich says is true, is that not only the electoral process is crooked, but the entire system of judges, courts and justice is engaged in a massive conspiracy to steal the election from the rightful winner.

    How else can we explain that court after court is rejecting appeal after appeal, right across the country, labelling allegations of voter fraud “baseless” and rejecting compelling evidence as inadequate. Republican and Democrat judges and jurisdictions are all complicit. Even some senior Republicans are falling into line. How can this be happening? Who engineered this egregious crime?

    Surely when the entire justice system of a great nation like the United States is found to be corrupt, that is a far, far more serious state of affairs than a rigged election?

    Alternatively, ……well, I hardly dare contemplate it.

    Reply
  11. Dude says

    Dec 3, 2020 at 9:09 am

    The Republicans knew they would lose, after selling out the citizens to preserve their stock investments.

    They tried to stop mail-in voting so the non-rich couldn’t vote since they couldn’t afford to take time off work to stand in line for hours, especially since it increased their pandemic vulnerability.

    However, that plan fell through, but it did foreshadow their planned fraud scam nonsense. So they urged their maga masses to vote in person, not early or by mail. This way all their votes would be counted first, making a landslide of Democrat pandemic-conscious votes appear only after the illusion of a Trump victory.

    Nice plan, the grifter’s best, and he played it like a pro shell game, firing up his street gangs with slogan-chanting, edging on violence that will flame until 2024. See the con. He knew his troops were too heehaw to see the truth. And in 2024 they will carry that same psychosis now heated by four years of feeling cheated by the bogeyman, a psychosis the Republicans will promote daily.

    One can only shutter imagining the wild new conspiracy theories that the trolls will promulgate in the next four years. But that’s just how naive the average internet citizen has become.

    But now that we are all focusing on Mars, we can expect more reptilian aliens amongst us, and of course they will be cannibal pedophiles. They will infiltrate one of the political parties, but Maga will muster to defeat them. It will be exciting for sure, at least if their spaceships remain on the other side of the moon.

    Reply
    • gravenimage says

      Dec 3, 2020 at 11:28 pm

      The idea that only rich people are able to vote is quite mistaken.

      Reply
  12. Lorensacho says

    Dec 3, 2020 at 9:13 am

    I fear that Gingrich is off his meds.

    Reply
  13. E T says

    Dec 3, 2020 at 9:20 am

    I attended court every Monday for three years. I learned that Liberal judges rule wrong is not always wrong, and Conservative judges rule wrong is never right. It is that simple.

    A man beat a woman, the liberal appointed judge said “You probably provoked him.”

    A man was up for sentencing – he had beat his girlfriend – the Liberal appointed judge decide he should have a weekend free before his sentencing. That weekend he shot his girlfriend in the head, right between the eyes. Eight years later she is still dead and he is out of prison, walking free.

    An Imam had been spewing hate about killing the Jews. The case was dropped something about being lost in translation.

    Rule of law — who is ruling matters.

    Reply
  14. Arnold David Darman says

    Dec 3, 2020 at 11:10 am

    If there was election fraud or error that truly altered the result, it should be exposed via the many legal proceedings started by team Trump. So far, all such court proceedings have been dismissed or have failed to establish meaningful fraud or error. Even Trump’s own attorney general, Barr, has announced there has not been voter fraud. Time will tell, but so far, there is no factual support for the strident accusation of wide spread election fraud.

    I began to follow this Jwatch blog to learn about Islam. Mr Spencer has extensive expertise on that subject and I appreciate his scholarship, however he has no special insight into current events or political philosophy in general. On the contrary, Mr Spencer’s politics are obviously determined entirely by his antagonism to all things Islam. Because Trump has taken positions limiting immigration into the US by Muslims and has otherwise expressed antipathy to Muslims, Mr Spencer regards him as a great president without regard to any other issues. In deed, his attachment to Trump is so fervent that if Trump wanted to eliminate the graduated income tax and enact a flat tax (so that low wage earners paid the same portion of their income as did Trump’s millionaire sidekicks), Mr Spencer would probably go along with it.

    If demagogue Trump wants to stir up his supporters with emotionally charged accusations of fraud, Spencer hops on board, despite the negative effect such unjustified divisiveness has on the well being of this country’s international reputation and leadership role.

    Spencer’s tunnel vision support of the pussy-grabber-in-chief only goes to prove once again…that if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    Reply
    • E T says

      Dec 3, 2020 at 3:28 pm

      WARNING. anything Arnold David Darman spews cannot be verified.

      Reply
      • Arnold David Darman says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 3:45 pm

        Did my criticism of Mr Spencer hurt you so much that you felt a personal attack is justified?Boo hoo hoo -want a tissue?
        .s. Do you have any facts or arguments to rebut my comments or shall we just forgo them and lob personal insults?

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        • E T says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 8:17 pm

          Did your criticism of Mr. Spencer hurt me so much that I felt a personal attack was justified. No, your criticism did not bother me at all. Most people ignore or just shrug comments made by the village idiot.

          What is with the Boo hoo hoo want a tissue? You may be hanging around too many Karen’s Dick.

          When you say “If demagogue Trump wants to stir up his supporters with emotionally charged accusations of fraud” I say to you his supporters are more of the kind who think for themselves not what the media scum tell them. Again you may be thinking of the “emotionally” charge Karens.

          Facts
          In some counties more people voted than the number of eligible voters.

          Let us all take a close look at how many dead people voted.

          In the 35 years I spent working in elections, I never once heard of or saw people with suitcases full of ballots.

          It is illegal to backdate ballots.

          It is illegal to help fill out ballots.

          It is illegal to fill out ballots for other people.

          There is not a snowballs chance in hell that 40,000 ballots would arrive all for one candidate.

          Truck loads of ballots travelling over three state lines.

          If you are referring to me calling you Dickweed as a personal insult, do try and work on your arrogant attitude.

          The sad part of being a fraud is you no longer have the ability to recognize it.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 11:37 pm

          David Darman was an Anti-Jihadist at one time, but in recent months–over a year, probably–he has not posted here except to castigate Robert Spencert and other Anti-Jihadists.

    • Rod says

      Dec 3, 2020 at 6:05 pm

      Arnold, watch Spencer distorting or misstating or inventing facts with the sole purpose of inspiring hatred and contempt, and you’ll find it impossible to respect his “scholarship”. (Can you believe that Justin Trudeau “condemned” freedom of speech, and nobody in the world, except Robert Spencer, thought to criticise him for it?) No serious scholar would ever stoop to such clumsy and transparent dishonesty. Why do you think his sensational discoveries about Muslim wickedness never merit any attention, except among his dimwitted devotees here?

      Further, after watching his ham-fisted behaviour over the past four years, could anybody who sees Trump as a great president be credited with any degree of good judgement about anything?

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      • CogitoErgoSum says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 6:10 pm

        What is your position on abrogation with regard to the verses of the Koran, Rod?

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        • CogitoErgoSum says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 6:37 pm

          What’s the name of this site, Rod? The concept of abrogation plays an extremely important role in understanding Jihad. Once again you disappoint me, Rod, but I’ve become accustomed to that. Man, you really need to do some more homework.

        • Rod says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 11:33 pm

          Cog, try to get it into your head that I am not interested in your interpretations of Islam or your pretence of expertise, except to ridicule idiotic pronouncements.
          You can abrogate from now till doomsday, if you must. Carry on.

          As for doing homework to achieve your level of scholarship? You can’t imagine how that appeals.

        • CogitoErgoSum says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 11:39 pm

          And so we get another dumb-ass answer from, Rod.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 8:12 pm

        This from “Rod” is a reference to these articles:

        “Canada: Imam Denounces Free Speech, Trudeau Agrees”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/11/canada-imam-denounces-free-speech-trudeau-agrees

        “Canada: Trudeau answers question about Muhammad cartoons by saying ‘freedom of expression is not without limits'”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/10/canada-trudeau-answers-question-about-muhammad-cartoons-by-saying-freedom-of-expression-is-not-without-limits

        He has gone on and on that Trudeau condemning freedom of speech when it includes the criticism of Islam is–somehow–not a condemnation of freedom of speech because he did not say “I condemn freedom of speech” in so many words.

        Clearly “Rod” is also fine with this condemation of freedom of speech–but then, why wouldn’t he be?

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        • E T says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 9:44 pm

          Nobody listens to Justine anymore.

  15. OLD GUY says

    Dec 3, 2020 at 11:37 am

    Big question after reading all of this is why would anyone with half a brain purchase voting machines and software from your enemy? And why was this not a front page news article at the time these purchases were being done around the country?

    It appears that our political leaders are not representing the average men, women and children they were elected to serve and protect. When our government becomes to corrupt it will be replaced and they know it, that’s why they want to take away our GUNS.

    The Republicans and Democrats choose who you and I get to vote for. Under there system they control who is in power and are able to protect their closed systems. We need to choose and elect more independent candidates to break the hold of the two party system that currently controls our country. I know there are good God loving Women and Men out there who would serve there country putting the people first ahead of them selves and the big money campaign contributors..

    If you love this country and our Constitution please step up we need true leaders not bought and paid for politicians.

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  16. E T says

    Dec 3, 2020 at 3:38 pm

    Good thing Clinton and Biden never grabbed a pussy. I have listened to so many idiot men referring to Trump as a pussy grabber. Your superior intelligence is showing dickweed.

    Reply
    • Rod says

      Dec 3, 2020 at 6:16 pm

      Self confessed, ET. And proud of it. Meanwhile, it seems the courts require him to defend himself regarding a rape charge. The US Government can’t do it for him. Seems fair.
      “Trump must remain defendant in rape defamation claim case filed by E. Jean Carroll, judge rules in rejecting DOJ bid”

      Reply
      • E T says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 8:23 pm

        Come on man, shut up clown.

        Reply
      • E T says

        Dec 3, 2020 at 9:33 pm

        Well if we insist

        I remember Juanita Broderick

        Eileen Wellstone

        Paula Jones and James Carvelle, the Slickisters advisor, saying “If you drag a 100 dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you will find”.

        Kathleen Wiley

        Leslie Millwee

        Monica Lewinsky Hill saying she was an adult

        Jennifer Flowers……………and on and on…….

        Hillary Clinton dismissed the women Slick Willy abused as bimbos and called any talk of Willy’s playing as a vast right-wing conspiracy theory.

        Kamala Harris said she believed the women who accused Joe of groping.

        Whatever happened to Tara Reade, was she tarred and feathered?

        Reply
        • Rod says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 11:12 pm

          Diversion tactics! Devilish cunning, Watson! We’ll need all our wits about us now.

        • CogitoErgoSum says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 11:19 pm

          Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson decide to go on a camping trip. After dinner and a bottle of wine, they lay down for the night, and go to sleep.

          Some hours later, Holmes awoke and nudged his faithful friend.

          “Watson, look up at the sky and tell me what you see.”

          Watson replied, “I see millions of stars.”

          “What does that tell you?”

          Watson pondered for a minute.

          “Astronomically, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of planets.”
          “Astrologically, I observe that Saturn is in Leo.”
          “Horologically, I deduce that the time is approximately a quarter past three.”
          “Theologically, I can see that God is all powerful and that we are small and insignificant.”
          “Meteorologically, I suspect that we will have a beautiful day tomorrow.”
          “What does it tell you, Holmes?”

          Holmes was silent for a minute, then spoke: “Watson, you idiot. Someone has stolen our tent!”

        • Rod says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 11:53 pm

          cog, forgive me, but
          “they lay down for the night and went to sleep”
          or
          “they lie down for the night and go to sleep”

          As my teacher used to say, “lay” used in present tense suggests the presence of eggs. (or perhaps foundation stones).

          1 Samuel 3:5
          He ran to Eli, and said, “Here I am; for you called me.” He said, “I didn’t call; lie down again.” He went and lay down.

        • CogitoErgoSum says

          Dec 3, 2020 at 11:55 pm

          Okay, I forgive you, Rod.

        • CogitoErgoSum says

          Dec 4, 2020 at 12:17 am

          You are obviously an intelligent fellow, Rod. Why in the world would you say you are not interested in how abrogation affects how the Koran should be understood?

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 4, 2020 at 9:15 pm

          CogitoErgoSum, “Rod” doesn’t want anyone else to learn about abrogation–it makes it even more difficult to hide the ugliness of Islam.

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