Leftist and Islamic groups in the West have successfully shifted the focus of the discourse regarding Islamic jihad violence, so that those who want to fight back against jihad terrorism are on the defensive, and have to assure the world, as Macron does here, that they have no problem with Islam. Islamic groups, by contrast, are taken for granted as being “moderate,” witness the continuing acceptance of the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations as a “civil rights” group by the American media. It is never considered to be incumbent upon them to assure the world that they not only oppose jihad violence but are working against it in their communities and are teaching the importance of tolerance, and of the acceptance of non-Muslim, non-religious government on an indefinite basis, living as equals with unbelievers without attempting to subjugate them under the hegemony of Islamic law.
Anyway, France has no problem with Islam, but some of the Muslim migrants it is admitting and assuming to be integrated have a problem with France.
“French President Emmanuel Macron Talks About Islam To Brut,” Brut, December 4, 2020 (thanks to Kevin):
EXCLUSIVE: French President Emmanuel Macron told Brut what he really thinks about Islam in an exclusive interview.
Bad Penguin says
Macron: ‘France has no problem with Islam’ just Muslims cutting our throats.
mortimer says
Macron is lying for the sake of diplomacy. He knows that France has a problem with Islam. Islam is 100% opposed to France’s values: Liberté, égalité, fraternité.
Islam is 100% incompatible with France.
juleonly says
I do have a problem with Islam same as I have a problem with nazigroups, KKKlan or any Supremacist outfit. I most certainly do have a problem with them as every American, at least, should.
Beemer burner says
There is more to Jihad than guns, bombs and beheadings. Jihad is the multi-generational overthrow of a society. LEARN THE THREE STAGES OF JIHAD. Once you do, you will understand “things that happen”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERou_Q5l9Gw
gravenimage says
+1
Wellington says
Message to Macron: Islam has a problem with you and you’re seemingly in full denial mode about this.
Wake the Hell up, Macron—but you won’t.
Peter35 says
I agree, and basically nothing has changed; the whole western world continues to grovel to the superior moslems, just as American media continues to grovel to a couple of American crooks named Biden.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Macron has no problem with Islam (he said) but it is the Islamists that have a problem with France’s secularism and Macron crossed the T’s and dot the I’s on that subject.
Carol says
Koranimals who adhere to Koran 9:5 (i.e., “the Verse of the Sword), 9:29, 47:4, etc., ad nauseam, as well as the genocidally anti-Kafir 40 Ahadeeth that have been relayed by El-Imam El-Nawawy have ‘problems’ with Kuffar who have neither ‘reverted’ nor ‘submitted’ the world over.
gravenimage says
All too true.
Carol says
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Al-Nawawi%27s_Forty_Hadith
End PC says
He just can’t be this stupid, he must be a coward to say France has not problem with Islam when all those deplorable, un-French attitudes of Muslims that he described come precisely out of Islam, not “militant Islam” , but the Islam of the Qur’an & Muhammad. A ridiculous man, but the kind of wussy European leader we’ve come to expect.
DavidR says
It’s been going on since 9/11. The qualifying statement or paragraph that let’s the listener know the speaker doesn’t object to all Muslims or to Islam in general. It is a!most a part of speech, the Muslim exception.
Yogi says
It’s time for Marine La Pen , pronto , otherwise with this idiot, Europe and France is lost ..
Michael Copeland says
Here is what Macron says about “Islamism” (English subtitles):
“This Islamist ideology, not Islamic, Islamist, which means those who use Islam to create an ideology. It says, “The values of the Republic are no longer mine. I no longer believe in gender equality. I’m going to take my little girl out of school, I will have her wear a full veil, I will have very stringent practices, I will justify violence.””
https://www.brut.media/in/international/french-president-emmanuel-macron-talks-about-islam-to-brut-b360c7f5-f049-4905-82b0-937570b3a221
Learning Curve needed, M. Macron.
Here is a revision:
“The values of the Republic never were mine. My religion instructs me that the genders are not equal. I’m going to take my little girl out of the filthy kafir school. I will force her, by beating if needed, to wear a hijab. I will strictly follow Islam’s rules, which my religion instructs me are superior to any man-made laws. I shall justify violence because my religion mandates violence against the kuffar.”
Michael Copeland says
In each instance above “my religion” refers to Islam, ordinary basic Islam, true-to-Koran Islam, strike-at-the-neck Islam, Kill-them-wherever-you-find-them Islam. As Erdogan said, “Islam is Islam and that is that.”
gravenimage says
So true.
GreekEmpress says
France has no problem with Islam??
Uh—yeah, you do.
A BIG one.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Macron is not a theologian and he was very clear when he said that if Muslims accept French laws, they will have no problem.
GreekEmpress says
I probably should have said Islam has a problem with France—
Meaning accepting French laws.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Yes that’s right, the Islamists have a problem with French secularism and Macron will not compromise on this important matter .
tim gallagher says
Macron seems to be saying the usual stuff that we get from almost all politicians in the western world. They say that there is a problem with the hardline Islamist enemy, but, with basic islam, there’s no problem. Total bullshit of course. These politicians are either clueless about islam or they simply lack the courage to tell the truth (they probably think it will stir up the hornet’s nest – that is, the Muslim barbarians in their countries). It is enjoyable to visit Jihad Watch because almost all the people who comment here know that all of Islam, basic Islam, is the problem. People here aren’t fooled by this crap about how there is nice, peaceful islam (which doesn’t exist in reality, only in some people’s dreams) and then there is the violent Islamist people who cause the trouble. Orban in Hungary sees it clearly. islam is the problem and Islam has been stinking up this world for 1400 years, spreading misery and murder everywhere it goes. Macron does seem to have woken up a little lately, but he is still pathetically weak on islam. But he is typical of most western political leaders. You have to wake up to a problem and see the problem clearly before you can solve it and most politicians in the western nations aren’t doing that.
Michael Copeland says
Indeed. The failure of Western leaders amounts to negligence.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/09/the-negligence-of-western-leaders/
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the referral to your article, Michael. You do very good and important work with your articles. I suppose most of the leaders in the western world are hoping the problems Islam inevitably brings with it will somehow resolve themselves. Magical thinking. They won’t. Then again, if most of the population of a country with a democratic system of government haven’t yet woken up, (in Australia, where I live, they definitely haven’t yet) and are still swallowing the lies from the media who tell them that islam is OK and not really a problem, then the leaders can’t get too tough. By not confronting the problem of Islam and Muslim migrants, I think there will be violent conflict in many western countries in the future as the Muslims make a play for power when their numbers get big enough. I like the wiser policy of Orban and the leaders of the other Visegrad bloc countries. Avoid all this trouble by keeping Muslims out. It is the only solution I can see.
Michael Copeland says
Thank you. I am obliged.
James Lincoln says
Michael Copeland,
Excellent work at Gates of Vienna, including this article and your archived articles…
Michael Copeland says
Thank you. I hope they can be useful.
gravenimage says
Seconded.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Macron is back peddling. Poor Mr.Paty’s memory and the lessons of what he stood for are already forgotten.
gravenimage says
Macron: ‘France has no problem with Islam’
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And here I thought Macron was finally getting serious about the threat of Islam. Too much to hope for…
Infidel says
Yeah, I’ll still root for Marine Le Pen the next election that France has
gravenimage says
She always would have been preferable–but we were seeing signs of life from Macron for a while before he wound up back-pedaling.
annonymos says
OMINOUS: U.S. POSITIONING NAVAL VESSELS OFF EAST & WEST COASTS; MASSIVE TROOP MOVEMENTS IN CONUS
Over the past four days, there have been MASSIVE movements of troops, equipment and supplies WITHIN the continental United States (CONUS). Today (Tue.), the US Navy is positioning Aircraft carriers and their strike groups off both the US east and west coasts. It appears we are preparing to defend ourselves from an invasion. China?
Late Saturday, no fewer than 25 C-17 aircraft were in the skies over the USA, carrying troops and equipment from around the nation . . . ALL going to Nellis Air Force Base. (Story Here).
Also late Saturday, no fewer than 12 C-130 aircraft were also on the move, ALSO ALL heading into Nellis.
gravenimage says
China *is* a danger to us, but I doubt they are planning to invade the United States. Not their style at this point.
tim gallagher says
China is a big problem for Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, etc, that’s for sure. It is very much front and centre as a concern in this part of the world, gravenimage. I think that the USA, whatever problems that society might have, will never have to worry about China or any other power actually taking the USA on in a military sense, because any country that did would be annihilated, and they would all know that. China is certainly being the big bully and kicking Australia around in recent months. Apparently it all began when Australia said that there should be an inquiry into how the Covid virus started out in China. Since then they have been banning many things, wine, barley, etc, that Australia exports to China. I think they are showing Australia, a pretty tiny power, who is the big boss. In the news today, China apparently said that Australia is the “most unfriendly” country towards them apart from the USA. Because the USA is such a big power I don’t believe anyone is ever going to be stupid enough to attack it. It is a good thing not to have to worry about.
Infidel says
China is preparing for war. The report that they have genetically enhanced troops suited for very low temperatures suggest that it might be against India in the Himalayas. Then they have been crossing the half way line along the Taiwan Straits, and seem to have stopped once Taiwan made it clear that they’d shoot them down
The main thing they are looking for is whether Biden would soften Trump policies on China, if he’s the one ultimately sworn in. Things will follow from there
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the comment, Infidel. I suppose I have been thinking that China, the big bully, would have Taiwan as its next target. They have monstered Hong Kong in the past year or so and now they, of course, will want to take over Taiwan. Maybe you are right and there will actually be a war between China and India. Here’s hoping that doesn’t happen. I see the regime in China as stomping around like King Kong because China has surely always wanted to be a really major power but has stuffed things up until now. I think, from what I have occasionally read and heard, that Mao’s hideous cultural revolution, killing off and imprisoning a lot of the best and brightest people in China, turned China into a backward basket case for decades, but now this disgusting regime is becoming very powerful. For Australia, we need to break free of our economic dependence on China, (we fell into a trap becoming so dependent on China economically) which is going to take quite a while. It really feels like they own Australia economically and can bury us and they are trying to demonstrate that to us. Anyway, these musings are not relevant to the ongoing fight against islam, but China is a huge problem for Australia, along with all the other countries in the Asia Pacific area, which everyone out here is waking up to.
gravenimage says
Tim, I *certainly* was not trying to minimize the thread of China, especially to Australia and the rest of the world. I just meant–as you noted–that China directly invading the US is implausible at this point.
tim gallagher says
I didn’t think you were downplaying the danger that China presents, gravenimage. I was merely saying that being a citizen of the USA, despite the many problems your society (all of our societies) may have, one very good thing about being an American citizen is that I am certain that no country on earth is ever going to actually attack the USA. That is a good thing. Getting with the strength is a good thing in that respect. You mentioned that invading the USA is implausible at the moment. I’d say it will never ever happen because it would result in the attacking country, and its leaders who live their comfortable lives, being wiped off the face of the earth. Then I thought that maybe those lunatic mullahs in Iran might be dopey enough to attack the USA as they have IQs below 20 I’d say. I am 70 years old, so I’m happy to stay in Australia, but, if I were a lot younger, I’d be worried what might happen to this country because of China’s growing strength. It’s funny, I have actually said this to a few of my left wing friends and one of my fairly left wing sisters and they agreed with me. Australia is a great place to live, but when you look 20 years down the track, who knows? China is on everybody’s mind these days out here as they bully us day after day. I could see this coming for 10 years or so. Getting too cosy with China, with too much of our trade being with China in recent years always seemed a dangerous thing to me because of the type of regime it is. As I said at the start of this comment, I think American citizens don’t ever have to worry about any other country attacking them. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.
Rod says
Presumably, by saying that you “have no problem with Christianity”, you are condoning all the evil things Christians have done and are doing. (And there are plenty of those).
Better not to say such things at all. Certainly not when Spencer is likely to misrepresent them, distort them, or put his own contorted interpretations on them.
Alternatively, you could just accept them, like Mr Macron’s comment, as simple statements of common sense.
gravenimage says
Muslims are beheading teachers in the name of Islam in France–so no, saying you have no problem with this is not “common sense” as “Rod” pretends.
Rod says
Christians are manufacturing bombs and all manner of frightful weaponry, selling them to be used god knows where, and dropping bombs themselves, (not always in the name of Christ, mostly just for power or money) so no, saying you have no problem with Christianity may be injudicious.
But if you haven’t got a mind of your own, let Mr Spencer decide for you, and feed you whatever poisonous nonsense he’d like you to believe.
Who operates the biggest weapons industry on the planet? Who earns the most massive profits from making and selling arms? Islam? No, I don’t think so. But let’s keep it simple for simpleton minds. Christians are good and Muslims are bad.
PS I read about a woman in New Zealand who killed and beheaded her own mother. Don’t think she’s a Muslim, so, ho-hum, not important.
Carol says
Go suck on Mohammedans’ dicks and balls, Rod, just like the ‘good’ little dhimmi you are.
Giacomo Latta says
Keeping a count of beheadings, are we? Didn’t think so. Otherwise, you would be arguing against yourself, just like Macron. Does ”Islam” buy weapons and bombs that rain from the sky? Why should they when they have the wherewithal to buy them?
As for land-based bombs who are the experts in that category? Why any muslim motivated by his religion plus corporate Islam. Need proof? Go ask all those who have died in London’s Underground or Madrid’s train station. How many? The right answer starts with a 1, followed by a 9, followed by a … oh, I see I have lost Rod’s attention.
Wellington says
I admire your eloquence, Carol. Can’t find anything to admire in Rod—dense as a fence post.
gravenimage says
The idea that if you respect Robert Spencer’s scholarship and bravery that you don’t have a mind of your own is of course grotesque. Note that “Rod”–as usual–cannot point to a single thing that Spencer has gotten wrong.
Then, “Rod” doesn’t want to see *any* defence against Jihad from the ‘filtly Infidels’.
Then, I can find no such case in New Zealand–does “Rod” mean Australia? So easy for “Rod” to get those Infidels mixed up. But no–Christianity does not enjoin its followers to behead victims. Would that the same were true of Islam, where beheading cases are sickeningly rife.
Rod says
Hello Carol. I imagine you’re one of Robert Spencer’s senior research assistants. Talent like yours must be invaluable to him.
James Lincoln says
Rod,
Some Christians have, indeed, committed evil acts – but these acts are not supported by their religious texts and teachings.
But you knew that already…
Wellington says
Excellent retort, James, to the ever clueless (or is it the ever deceptive?) Rod.
gravenimage says
True, James. Then, there is no indication that Jessica Camilleri is Christian, let alone claiming to have acted in its tenets.
Rod says
So the evil acts of Christians are not evil?, less evil?, evil but forgivable?, irrelevant? I need your help James.
But to be sure, the evil acts of Muslims are definitely, unforgivably more evil. Seriously evil. Have I got that right? And that’s because of the texts and teachings?
gravenimage says
What tripe. Christianity does not teach beheading, nor is there any indication that this murderer is Christian, let alone that she claimed to be acting on the tenets of Christianity.
Of course evil actions are evil, whatever their motives.
But the very fact that non-Muslims beheading victims is vanishingly rare but this is rife among Muslims is very telling.
“Rod” can pretend that ideology makes no difference, but this is like pretending that the Nszis were no more violent than are Buddhist nuns.
Rod says
Whereas, gravy, non-Muslim bombing of Muslims is far from “vanishingly rare”. Curious, isn’t it? And it has many more victims than beheading, Sorry to point out that unwelcome fact, but it’s sadly true.
And neither, it seems, is capital punishment “vanishingly rare” in some benighted non-Muslim countries. Just as deliberately deadly as beheading. Less blood, so more acceptable to Christians?
And the Christians have more victims lined up, it seems – all must die before the advent of the bloodless Biden era.
Strange that deliberately killing people is “legal’ in some places, but a wicked crime in others. Is it a strong sense of self-righteousness that allows you to make sense of it?
James Lincoln says
Rod,
Please reread my post. I acknowledged that Christians have, indeed, committed evil acts.
Evil acts committed by Christians are tried in criminal courts and, if the defendant is found guilty, he/she is sentenced. These acts are not forgiven by the courts.
When a Christian commits an evil act, it is also considered to be a sin, according to their religion. The sin may be forgiven according to Christian teachings. That being said, the criminal sentence must still be carried out.
Likewise, evil acts committed by muslims are also tried in criminal courts and, if the defendant is found guilty, he/she is sentenced.
The same evil act, whether committed by a Christian or muslim, should rate the same criminal sentence.
Since evil acts are not supported / encouraged by Christians’ religious texts and teachings, they are much less likely to occur compared to followers of islam…
Rod says
Racking up executions at the end of your presidency would be disgusting at the best of times. Doing it during a pandemic takes cruelty to a new level.
And at Christmas, just in case the sadistic aspects are not clear enough.
And what is this about “pro-life” again?
I think I’ll refer to this site in future as “Hypocrisy Watch”.
We can’t bear the thought of anybody being beheaded! Imagine how brutally inhumane that is! (When performed by Muslims).
But when it comes to lethal injections, electric chairs, the noose – all OK. And as for bombs, missiles, bullets, blowing up men, women, children – no problem. (No Muslims involved, you see).
James, I always have trouble with the US rates of murder and crime, and resulting incarceration rates. Are you sure about the rates of occurrence of evil acts? I’ve lived in Muslim cities, and saw no signs of widespread violence. Never felt threatened. And I’ve been warned about walking alone (and unarmed) in some areas of New York.
gravenimage says
Where are Christians murdering everyone before January? What vicious claptrap.
gravenimage says
“Rod” wrote:
Whereas, gravy, non-Muslim bombing of Muslims is far from “vanishingly rare”. Curious, isn’t it? And it has many more victims than beheading, Sorry to point out that unwelcome fact, but it’s sadly true.
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“Rod” always condemns any defense against Jihad terror. He wants Infidels to roll iover and bare their throats to Jihad terror.
More:
And neither, it seems, is capital punishment “vanishingly rare” in some benighted non-Muslim countries. Just as deliberately deadly as beheading. Less blood, so more acceptable to Christians?
And the Christians have more victims lined up, it seems – all must die before the advent of the bloodless Biden era.
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“Rod” has done this before–had no problem with murder and other savage crimes, but only with the perpetrator being imprisoned or executed. He cares nothing for *actual* victims. He has been quite consistent on this.
Then, the idea that all Christians are pro-death penalty is false as well–in fact, some Christians are pro-death penatly, some anti, and some torn on the subject.
Then, the idea that executions of criminals is done in the name of Christianity is entirely false–but “Rod” has never minded lying.
More:
Strange that deliberately killing people is “legal’ in some places, but a wicked crime in others. Is it a strong sense of self-righteousness that allows you to make sense of it?
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What tosh. Whatever one’s view on the death penalty, the idea that murderers being punished is somehow confusing to him is absurd.
More:
Racking up executions at the end of your presidency would be disgusting at the best of times. Doing it during a pandemic takes cruelty to a new level.
And at Christmas, just in case the sadistic aspects are not clear enough.
And what is this about “pro-life” again?
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Most executions have nothing to do with who is in the White House and their views on the death penatly one way or another.
More:
I think I’ll refer to this site in future as “Hypocrisy Watch”.
We can’t bear the thought of anybody being beheaded! Imagine how brutally inhumane that is! (When performed by Muslims).
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*Of course* “Rod” is sneering at the idea that cutting the throats of innocent people is inhumane. Just sickening, but scarcely surprising. Throat-cutting is a core part of Islam–no other faith teaches such savagery.
More:
But when it comes to lethal injections, electric chairs, the noose – all OK. And as for bombs, missiles, bullets, blowing up men, women, children – no problem. (No Muslims involved, you see).
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Again, the idea that defense against Jihad terror–and no, women and children are never targeted–and punishment for the most savage of crimes are just the same as unprovoked violence is moral insanity–but just what one has come to expect from this apologist for evil.
Clifford Fodor says
And how does Jihad Watch “fight” Islam? By saying they are not Islamophobic? By saying they are not discriminating against Islam? By censuring all those who want to take up arms against Islam?
newsupplements says
Most people who bother to find out from the point of view of the threatened infidel what Islam is about are certainly by definition Islamophobic. Sitting on buses is becoming a case of WHO sits behind me? and does he or she have a knife? because we know they don’t care about being sent to jail for such crimes as this since they just join their brothers and sisters already in them!
gravenimage says
What is Clifford Fodor babbling about? Jihad Watch is perhaps the most prominent of all Anti-Jihad sites.
newsupplements says
Why does Macron have no problem with Islam that records in its quran the teaching of the prophet as being to kill the infidels? to slit their throats etc…Surely Macron and other political elites plus the whole of the moronic media should HASTILY find a problem with murdering people who are not signed up to Islam! even where they have exercised free speech and “annoyed” a self entitled Islamic zealot. Why are they allowing the existence of such people around us to threaten our lives? Is that the idea, to cull the human race by placing in every community a deadly opposition to their existence? The Hindus sure know about it having had millions of Rohinga Muslims placed beside them who are now bumping them off on a daily basis!
No Muzzies Here says
But the Islamists have a problem with France. It’s not Islamic. They plan to do everything they can to turn it Islamic.
Pray Hard says
What is an islamist?
Stephen O'mara says
A man wandering into Lion’s enclosure might boast also, ”I have no problems with these lions.”
OLD GUY says
Sticking your head in the sand usually results in getting your ass kicked.
Pray Hard says
Macron and Trudeau are two of the most disgusting people on the planet.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Check your sources.
gravenimage says
+1
SJ says
I don’t have a problem with Islam so long as Muslims keep their beliefs to themselves, and don’t try to impose them on others.
SJ says
…. but the world isn’t a utopia…