Yet Macron continues to welcome into France large numbers of Muslim migrants, among whom are some who believe that it is wrong to follow “the law of the people” rather than “the law of Islam,” which they believe comes from Allah himself. Those migrants, and Muslims who are already in France who believe the same way, are not going to be satisfied with Macron’s declaration “I’m not going to change it for you,” and will keep pressing him to change it until he or one of his successors surrenders and submits.
“After meeting with Sisi, Macron expresses regret over impact of Charlie Hebdo cartoons on Muslims,” Al-Masry Al-Youm, December 8, 2020:
French President Emmanuel Macron said on Monday that he regrets the shock experience by millions of Muslims over magazine Charlie Hebdo’s cartoons that satirically depicted the Prophet Mohamed.
Macron’s apology came during a joint press conference with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi at the Élysée Palace in France.
When asked why he didn’t make an apology for the cartoons before, Macron said he said that the cartoons are not against the law, as blasphemy is not a felony in France.
“In France a journalist, a cartoonist, writes and draws freely. It is not the President of the Republic who tells him what to do, nor anybody whatsoever. And it has been like that for a long time… When there is a caricature, it is not a message from France to the Muslim world. It is the free expression of someone who provokes, blaspheming. He has the right, in my country. Because it is not the law of Islam that applies, it is the rule of law of the people, who have chosen it for themselves. And I’m not going to change it for you,” Macron said….
Wellington says
The “law of the people,” President Macron, is despised by Muslims. You need to realize this. Once and for all you need to realize this.
I detect in Macron a man who is struggling not to conclude what he must conclude, to wit, that Islam—all of it—is incompatible with Western Civilization.
Can’t square the circle and yet so many Western politicians, ignorant of Islam more or less (usually more), keep trying to do so. But I’ll give Macron at least this and that is he is still way ahead of Biden—but then who the hell isn’t who is not a complete fool or an intentionally wicked human being?
And which leads me to this comment, i.e., that all those, living or dead, American or non-American, who voted for Biden are, at the very least, foolish human beings (yeah, I know the “dead stuff” is weird but Democrats have counted on the dead voting in so many elections that only the naive or worse will deny otherwise).
Pretty damn sad when the best you can say of a person is that they are a fool. But this is my assessment of EVERY person who legitimately voted for Biden (never mind all the phony votes and which put Biden “over the top”).
But, sadly, it doesn’t matter respecting the fallacious “Biden election” because, in the final analysis, Biden is about to become the 46th President by way of the greatest political scandal in all of American history. And the MSM, which didn’t have a single signed affidavit, upon penalty of perjury, that the Trump campaign in 2016 colluded with Russia, though the MSM (and Democratic Party) pursued this farce for some three to four years, is now, along with the decrepit Democratic Party, stunningly incurious that far more than a thousand signed affidavits, upon penalty of perjury, exist that testify to massive fraud in the 2020 election, and most particularly in Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin.
The time is out of joint. You bet it is. And the Western Left and worst religion of all time (Islam), in temporary alliance (it will only be temporary as was the Nazi-Soviet non-Aggression Pact of August 1939—and hey, think that idiot, AOC, knows any of this?), will continue to run down the greatest civilization ever, i.e., Western Civilization.
Macron half gets this. A person like AOC, ignoramus that she is, doesn’t get this at all. But the “best of Muslims” do get this. Problem is that the better the Muslim the more inimical it all is to the greatest civilization ever created by man.
The enemy within is Leftism. The enemy without (but slyly becoming a second enemy within) is Islam. The “prize” is the demise of the West. By now, one knows this or should know it. Easy call. But I believe Macron still doesn’t grasp this. If he does, he should act accordingly. So far, he has not acted accordingly.
James Lincoln says
Wellington says,
“I detect in Macron a man who is struggling not to conclude what he must conclude…”
100% correct.
And it’s likely causing him immense cognitive dissonance….
juleonly says
He still thinks Muslims can change or adapt because they are in France. He imagines Islam can be changed. He just can’t understand why not.
Lavéritétriomphera says
It’s not the problem of Macron, if people believe in Buddha, Jesus, Zarathustra, Muhammad or do not believe in anything, but he made perfectly clear it’s his problem if French citizens disobey the laws of the republic.
Wellington says
Disagree, Laveritetriomphera: Respectfully disagree. While it is not Macron’s problem if people are Buddhists, Christians, Zoroastrians or non-religious, it is very much a problem for him if they are Muslim. He still doesn’t seem to grasp that while other major religions are not evil, Islam most surely is—though I think it has dawned on him that this is possible and he’s fighting coming to this conclusion.
Just as it would be a problem if 10% of the population you are the leader of were Nazis, so is it the case with Muslims. Macron cannot simply content himself by saying that all in France must follow French law when French law is one of many French institutions that Islam demands the extinction of.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Wellington,
Bonsoir
I agree with you: No one can say he doesn’t know. But Macron, like any other French citizens, can have an opinion on islam, but he is not above the laws. Islam is considered as a religion in France and French Constitution guarantees freedom of faith, and “no one shall be liable to be tried or punished for his ideas”.
Macron is a politician and he can only sue political Islam which is a system that can be subject to the full force of the law.
Bien à vous
Phil Copson says
I think AOC and her ilk, at an instinctive level, do “get this” – they have an overwhelming urge to control every aspect of other peoples’ lives, and they are simultaneously attracted to the violence in those worse than themselves, which they hope to harness for their own ends. They try to ride both of these horses at the same time by imagining that whatever harm they help to bring to others, will not be visited on them.
Those who sell the keys of the city to the invader, to help bring about the destruction of their civilisation, calculate that their treachery will bring them position, protection, and profit: It wasn’t true a thousand years ago, and it isn’t true now.
gravenimage says
Macron: ‘It isn’t the law of Islam that applies, it’s the law of the people, and I’m not going to change it for you’
……………..
Hear, hear, Macron!
But almost 10% of the population in France–Muslims–reject civilized French law, and more of these barbaric invaders are allowed to flood in all the time.
Infidel says
I get you, but my endorsement of Marine Le Pen stands!
gravenimage says
Agreed, Infidel–but I don’t know is Le Pen is electable (that she *should* be is a separate issue). At this point I support just about any Western leader who takes a strong stand against Islam. Wouldn’t it be great if we actually had a variety of politicians to choose from?
Roger Woodhouse says
Unfortunately the ‘West’ is under the control of the leftwing media(who in fact dictate government policy).The vast majority of the people are ‘asleep’ to the danger Islam poses.We are being ‘conditioned’ to accept Islam as a credible alternative to the now’defunct’ religion that has been the backbone of Western civilisation for almost two thousand years called Christianity. There are pockets of resistance though but their voices are drowned .Britain in the meantime is dividing at a pace,headlong toward an ‘apartheid’future unless we can elect a true patrior along the lines of a Donald Trump.Alas that dream is now on the back burner.
Michael Copeland says
For Roger Woodhouse……. Thanks: “asleep” is an apt metaphor.
“The blogger ECAW writes, “In 2005 four British born Muslims blew themselves up on the London transport system, killing 52 people, citing religious and political motivations. I was angry about it but was elsewhere, and otherwise engaged, and I went back to sleep.”
ECAW’s acronym stands for Everything Changed After Woolwich.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/01/we-are-at-war/
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Roger and Michael. And thanks–I didn’t know what username stood for. I haven’t seen him posting lately–a good commenter.
James Lincoln says
Infidel,
At this point, France may actually be ready for Marine Le Pen.
Let’s hope so…
gravenimage says
Hope so, James.
Roger Woodhouse says
Unfortunately James France is too ‘socialist’ to elect a Marine LePen or anyone from the ‘right’.Things in France have to get a lot worse for that to happen.
Infidel says
Roger, Marine Le Pen’s economic policies are populist, and nothing like the ones corporate globalists would be pushing. The only reason she’s described as ‘right-wing’ is b’cos she’s anti-islamic, which is meaningless. Since right-wing parties in muslim countries, like the parties of Erdogan and Imran Khan are very much conservative in most ways, except that in the socio-religious sphere, they happen to be islamic as well
juleonly says
Every Muslim world wide says they will not put man’s law over Allah’s law. The problem comes in imagining what is Allah’s law…….
Crusades Were Right says
The fundamental principles of law, in Western countries, derives from Christianity, whether people believe it or not. Ideas of “fairness” and “justice” can be boiled down to one sentence from Jesus: “Love thy neighbour as thyself.”
So nothing wrong with the idea of law coming from a god…
…just so long as it’s the REAL one!
Yogi says
France is lost …
gravenimage says
This is Macron *resisting* Islam. This is actually a *good thing*.
Eleanor says
He will eventually roll over and submit, especially if he receives no support from leaders of other European countries, which is highly likely.
gravenimage says
This may be, but I am going to show him support so long as he stands strong. I am not going to sneer at those *not* acting like dhimmis.
Naildriver says
Unless I missed something in the translation, Macron isn’t ‘resisting’ Islam; and, he actually blames the people of France.
His, ‘I’m not going to change it for you’, almost suggests he invites Muslims to continue their Jihad — or at least suggests he ‘washes his hands of it’.
I wish the ‘people’ would have the solidity and reality to say Islam is its enemy, but a population cannot think — even in collective ballots, democracy only reflects the most simplistic of choices: only individuals can be held accountable, and that’s why I would demand my representatives be held accountable and do that for their pledge of allegiance; to say unequivocally, that Islam is a bad system, and unfit for our country, and that its devotees will be denied participation in many activities of our country owing to Islam’s declared threats to it.
That’s their job! They are paid well for it, and that cuts across political parties too, since Islam threatens our constitution and all representatives are sworn to protect it. Islam is a clear threat to the Constitution. Very simple — those who enable Islam are traitors.
gravenimage says
Naildriver, I have certainly haad my issues with Macron, but interpreting this as *a call for more Jihad terror*–with all respect–makes no sense at all.
Naildriver says
I had a feeling you’d have an issue with my take — but not this preposterous a misconception — more jihad? Yes, Muslims will do more Jihad.
Thing is Macron is a representative who isn’t doing his job to protect France from islam.
Likewise, Biden is a representative who, regarding his statements and intended policy toward Islam, isn’t going to do his job, and, in fact, as such, is very close to treason — since Islam is destructive to the Constitution, to which he takes an oath to protect.
With all due respect, you can convolute and conclude incorrectly.
gravenimage says
Naildriver, I never said that Muslims will not commit more Jihad in France–of course they will.
But I see *no* reason to think from what he has said that Macron is inviting Muslims to wage more Jihad.
I agree that Macron has not done enough to protect France and her people–but that is no reason to suppose that his doing so now is actually–somehow–a call for Muslism to murder more Frenchmen.
Naildriver says
1. Macron apologizes for insults from France against Islam, as he sits amongst Muslims in Egypt; so, in my view he is defending himself in a personal way from Muslims who pointedly ask: ‘Why do you apologies only now? Why haven’t you stopped this blasphemy against our beloved Mohammed(pbuh)?’
2. He didn’t need to apologize at all, Graven.
So, Macron is now needing to explain why he apologized. He doesn’t say ‘I was just being diplomatic! Eat me! Because Mohammed sucks and so does your Islam!’
He says, instead that France has laws that permit these ‘rude and blashpemous’ Frenchmen to say such things.
3. In my the first post I say then, ‘He invites Muslims to continue their jihad, or at least suggests he washes his hands of it.’
Not to be literally taken to mean the invitation for jihah is intended to be realized and something Macron wants, but rather the upshot of his effect upon the Muslim ears in his obsequious and toadying protestations to their blunt demand to explain himself. As if to say to his Muslim hosts, ‘do whatever! as a cowardly response’ as if to say ‘but I’m NOT responsible’ RATHER than your interpretation that Macron, in a diplomatic way, stands up for France and law over Islam.
You could be right that Macron is being brave — I doubt it though.
gravenimage says
Naildriver, I am *not* a supporter of Macron acting like a dhimmi, and have been very critical of him. But if he stands up against Jihad, even imperfectly, I consider it a good thing. Of course, with his history he bears watching.
spiro says
Macon and France either grow a spine or your right
somehistory says
A rat, pursued by an enemy, will run first one way, then another and back and forth until cornered. Once cornered, the rat will fight. Dogs, cats, and other animals all will do similar things to avoid the fight with an enemy they see as stronger.
I am not calling Mr. Macron a “rat.” There are rats out there…many in the U.S….and they know who they are.
But, Mr. Macron sees the enemy. He knows the enemy is after him and his country. He most likely loves his country and hates to see it taken over; but the takeover began a long time ago, before Mr. Macron was put in charge.
The enemy is coming for Mr. Macron and his country. He has tried to evade by going first one way and then another. He has been attacked by moslims at every turn. moslims will not stop attacking. moslims have attacked him directly with words of insult, death threats, etc., and indirectly, murders of teachers, murders in churches, the police attacked, etc. There will have to be a real fight or the moslim hordes will win and France will be totally lost.
In the U.S., the rats are the ones pursuing power and they have invited moslims along for the fight that they hope to win and reduce the U.S. to a dictatorship. moslims see themselves as the winners…everywhere. And they don’t give a tooty fruity for the laws of man. Except when they can use these to their advantage…”civil rights,” suing businesses to gain advantages others don’t have, setting up phony civil rights orgs they can use to bully citizens (cair is one such, msa, icna or two others), and many other laws they use and abuse, but won’t obey.
When animals are cornered, they fight to the death. Even when their enemy appears stronger.
mortimer says
When Muslims succeed in electing a president and parliament in France that Islam-friendly, they will change the laws to favor Sharia.
The answer is to convince Muslims to leave Islam by exposing the manmade origins of the Koran.
La Plume de Maat says
“The answer is to convince Muslims to leave Islam by exposing the manmade origins of the Koran.” : It’s currently ongoing, thanks internet for that.
DVult says
He met Sisi in France then issued the statement of regret about the supposed hurt the cartoons caused. It was Sisi who should have abjectly apologized for the deaths caused by moslems at Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan, Nice and a thousand other places and Sisi and Macron should have pledged together to put a stop to it. zThey could start by making membership in the muslim brotherhood a capital offence.
OLD GUY says
It is Islam’s plan to change your country into another muslim/islamic country. They know they can never defeat our military so defeat us through a migration invasion of young islamic followers that will demand changes to our society and culture to suit their demands.l
vtology says
Wars are needed to sort these things out. Then years and decades and centuries go by, gradually invasion is again tolerated, the problem grows and blossoms again, there’s more and more terrorism, and pretty soon, war is needed to sort things out again. See the pattern here? I mean it doesn’t take a genius to figure this out, we are headed toward war, sooner or later, and the sooner the better.
kaland says
It doesn’t matter what macron does right now. Once the Muslims become a majority they will change the laws to suit them
gravenimage says
Muslims make up about 8% of the population in France. An appalling number, but *not* a majority as you imply.
No Muzzies Here says
I’m glad he has the courage to say that. Few other world leaders do.
gravenimage says
+1