Here is a fine example of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Nine years, twelve years — how are three more years going to make the slightest difference if no effort is made while Fatah Abdullah is in prison to disabuse him of his jihadist sentiments? And no such effort will be made, since it would be “Islamophobic.”
“Newcastle man jailed for life for terror offences could have minimum term increased,” by Kieran Murray, Chronicle Live, December 16, 2020:
A man and woman given life sentences after being convicted of terror offences could have their minimum jail terms increased after Attorney General Suella Braverman raised concerns.
Lawyers representing Ms Braverman on Wednesday told appeal judges that Newcastle’s Fatah Abdullah and Safiyya Shaikh had been given lenient minimum terms.
Abdullah, 35, a fanatic of so-called Islamic State, was given a nine-year minimum term in June after a judge at the Old Bailey heard how he encouraged a terror cell in Germany to commit mass murder with a car, bomb and meat cleaver.
He had pleaded guilty to inciting terrorism overseas and engaging in conduct in preparation to assist others to commit terrorist acts.
Shaikh, 37, of Hayes, west London, was given a 14-year minimum term in July after a judge at the Old Bailey heard how she plotted a terror attack at St Paul’s Cathedral.
She had admitted preparation of terrorist acts and dissemination of terrorist publications on the internet.
Alison Morgan QC, who represented Ms Braverman, told Lord Justice Fulford, Mr Justice Edis and Mr Justice Foxton that Abdullah, who lived in the Arthur’s Hill area of Newcastle, should have been given a 12-year minimum term, and Shaikh a minimum term of 18-and-a-half years….
gravenimage says
UK: Attorney General wants to increase Islamic State jihadi’s minimum sentence from nine years to twelve
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Well, I guess this is better than their trying to *decrease* the sentence by three years…
Rod says
Why better? You’re fully conversant with the UK justice system’s scale of penalties awarded in such cases? Or are you following the bigot’s knee-jerk attitude, – if he’s a Muslim, a fair trial and a just sentence are unnecessary. Bigots aren’t just silly, they’re boringly predictable.
James Lincoln says
Rod,
According to the feature article:
Fatah Abdullah:
1. Encouraged a terror cell in Germany to commit mass murder with a car, bomb and meat cleaver.
2. Pleaded guilty to inciting terrorism overseas and engaging in conduct in preparation to assist others to commit terrorist acts.
In your opinion, what do you think would be a “just” sentence?
Rod says
A just sentence? I’m content to leave it to the UK Attorney General and the UK justice system, James. They have more knowledge and experience of this case and others than I have, and vastly more common sense than any one-eyed racist who’s read a few sentences in the press and jumped to their pre-programmed conclusion.
gravenimage says
The idea that it is bigoted to want a stiff sentence for plots to mass murder with a car, bomb and *meat cleaver* is just grotesque.
Bob says
Except that if he’s been a good boy in jail, he’ll be on the streets again in half of the sentence!
gravenimage says
Also true–or even less, in these Covid days.
Roger says
should be life!
Rod says
Does Mr Spencer not know that prison sentences are allocated according to the seriousness of the offence committed by the accused, and the intention is that the punishment should fit the crime? It’s a fairly basic concept, which most of us have understood since childhood.
Nothing to do with “disabusing” anybody of anything. Nor does it seem likely that deckchairs on the Titanic will be found mentioned in any of the statute books.
But, given Mr Spencer’s incurable addiction to trivia, it’s not surprising that he’d choose this insignificant event to amuse his uncritical devotees.
gravenimage says
The whole point is that a few years in prison followed by release into the civilian population does *not* fit the crime of plotting mass slaughter.
The idea that it is “trivia” to suppose that a state protect its citizens is just repulsive–but just what one would expect from this apologist for Islamic savagery.
Note that “Rod” doesn’t have a word of criticism for this plotted bloody violence–but why would he? He openly refers to this plot to mass murder people as “Insignificant”. *Ugh*.
GOLDMANN says
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john smith says
Agreed.
gravenimage says
Thank you, GOLDMANN and John.
GOLDMANN says
“Rod ” GET LOST!!??YOU B.S??????????
john smith says
Seconded
Giacomo Latta says
”Insignificant”? Why, occasional visiting muslim apologist? Because these two never got to personally pull off an act of terrorism, merely aid and abet such acts by others. You are seriously fucked up man. But then through your glasses everything muslim is justified. How about reading the koran, cite just one verse then try to justify it if Islam is so wonderful?
Mojdeh says
Look at his face shows evil indeed. This is faces of Satan on the planet. These people must be given max life in prision why queen of london give this man only 9 years. These people if come to my home i will show my UZI and killed them all this SOB? Harmi, Harmzadeh.
GOLDMANN says
Mo ??❤️❤️❤️thankyou !!!.
gravenimage says
The Queen (not the “queen of london”, in any case) does not set prison terms.
GOLDMANN says
This bastard looks like a MONSTER ?? give him 30ys
Michael Copeland says
But but but…. he is “Newcastle man”.
geof says
All muslums in jail should be segragated so that other prisioners dont have to put up with their shit .
Michael Copeland says
Tommy Robinson, with experience inside jail, recommended that muslims be jailed separated from the kuffar.
gravenimage says
Agreed–Muslims shouold be kept isolated. They regularly agressively proselytize Infidels, and often subject them to violence if they do not submit.
tgusa says
Can you imagine coming across that mug while you are out on the town?
Mojdeh says
GOLDMANN says
Dec 20, 2020 at 5:10 am
Mo ??❤️❤️❤️thankyou !!!.
Thanks a lot for your great review. we are all same shoes, we escaped from them now they are here and
only language understand is this UZI. Other wise they are going eat us all.
Walter Sieruk says
Yes twelve years instead on nine is more appropriate for a jihadist of ISIS, For the deadly disasters of ISIS jihad terrorism had ,for a time , appeared to have had subsided , much to the credit of the power and might the US armed forces which cause the Islamic “state” to lost much of the land it had obtained by its brutal ,cruel and murderous Islamic terrorism .
Nevertheless, ISIS might have a comeback, just like resurgence of a plague of as deadly infectious disease.
Therefore there some people who might stop and think and wonder then asked the question a very good question .Which is “Since ISIS had lost so much territory ,why haven’t the jihadist who make up ISIS just given up in their mad Islamic quest against the West and for the advancement of Islam ?
The answer to that question was provided in a speech by the ISIS spokesman, Abu Muhammad al Adnani, now dead, in this speech he had declared “True defeat is a loss of willpower and desire to fight…” he further explained “We would be defeated and you victorious only if you are able to remove the Qu ‘ran from Muslim hearts.” All this leads to a very important question: “Is the Qu ‘ran the Word of God or is it a fabrication of a man. Thus, is the Quran the truth or a fiction and a hoax ?” The jihadists, as those of ISIS use many verses from the Qu ‘ran as the main source of justification for their violence, mayhem and murders.
As found in For example, 2:191.. 4:47 5:33. 9:5,111,123. 47:4 The answer is clearly given on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Qu ‘ran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Quran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Qu‘ran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Qu ‘ran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Quran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Qu ‘ran.
Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Qu ‘ran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.” Nevertheless, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet and Eethi Caner has shown that the Qu’ran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses. For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.”
In conclusion, the Qu ‘ran, which is the foundation for ISIS, is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.