When there are moderates to be found, they have to be invented, so as to shore up the illusory and self-defeating “dialogue” that has not saved a single Christian from Muslim persecution (or any persecution).
“Vatican Woos Funder of Islamic Terrorism,” by Jules Gomes, ChurchMilitant.com, November 27, 2020:
JEDDAH, Saudi Arabia (ChurchMilitant.com) – The Vatican is stepping up its alliance with a pan-Islamic organization alleged to have provided “material support” to al-Qaeda’s 9/11 terrorist operation as well as to have funded terrorism and the global propagation of hardline Wahhabi Islam.
As part of recent efforts at re-branding its image through “religious diplomacy,” the Saudi-sponsored Muslim World League (MWL) hosted the Vatican’s envoy to the United Nations (U.N.) Sunday for a book presentation on interreligious dialogue.
Archbishop Ivan Jurkovič, the Holy See’s permanent observer to the U.N. in Geneva, delivered a keynote address in Jeddah on the book The Promotion of Intercultural and Interreligious Dialogue as an Instrument for Peace and Fraternity, stressing the Vatican’s developing relationship that began under Pope Francis in 2017.
Making no mention of Christ or the gospel, Jurkovič instead extolled the “polychromatic light of religions” that illuminates this world and “does not contrast the individual colors by putting them in antithesis to one another; rather, it combines them in a non-conflictual vision.”
“The inevitable consequence of abandoning a civilization of encounter is to resort to an incivility of conflict,” Jurkovič said, citing both Francis’ Fratelli Tutti and the Human Fraternity pact with Grand Imam Ahmad al-Tayyeb.
Speaking to Church Militant, distinguished Islamic scholar Robert Spencer observed how “Jurkovič’s attendance at an MWL event is a stark illustration of how the Vatican’s determination to pursue Muslim ‘dialogue’ is so indefatigable that it has blunted all of its critical faculties and rendered it incapable of distinguishing between sincerely peaceful entities and those that are, like the MWL, extensively involved in funding jihad terrorism.”
“This is partly due to the cynical cleverness of the MWL itself, which presents itself as a benign organization dedicated to ‘dialogue,’ although it wouldn’t have taken more than five minutes of research for Vatican officials to discover the grim reality of the MWL,” Spencer explained….
“But the Vatican under Pope Francis has committed itself wholeheartedly to the false proposition that peace can be established (and, presumably, the global jihad ended) by means of this dialogue, and it needs ‘moderate Muslims’ to serve as dialogue partners,” Spencer, author of over 21 books on Islam, told Church Militant.
“When no such moderates can be found, rather than re-evaluate the entire ‘dialogue’ enterprise, Vatican authorities pretend that pro-Sharia individuals such as al-Azhar Grand Imam Ahmad al-Tayyeb and the MWL hold positions that it is easy to establish they do not hold,” Spencer lamented….
Frank Anderson says
What is wrong with soft soap? “. . .that has not saved a single Christian from Muslim persecution (or any persecution). . . .”
Think about how many Christians have been murdered today, not just beaten, tortured or received ugly looks from evil faces, but killed, stone cold dead. Submission to slavery and murder is not hereditary. Those are the end of the line. When does it become time to use simple, clear language instead of “diplomatic” phrases designed to lull people into inaction?
Elise Moriah says
Every time somebody tells the truth about the bloodthirsty cult of Islam, they get accused of lying. It’s so simple, Just read the Quran. But remember when reading the Quran, when you come across contradictions, and there are many of them, the rule that was made up last replaces the first rule. The beginning of the Quran preaches love and kindness toward Christians and Jews. Somewhere around the middle that all changes to murdering Christians and Jews.
Frank Anderson says
e.m. more or less a year ago Indiana Tom suggested that I look at Bill Warner’s Simple Koran and Abridged Koran, both of which do an excellent job of putting the scrambled standard koran into correct, chronological order. I will thank I.T. for that suggestion for a very long time. Warner does a beautiful job of editing and then abridging to produce a fabulous introduction to the truth of what we face. I have no conflict of interest in making that statement. Both are available on Amazon Kindle or in paperback.
mortimer says
The numbers show Islam is a death cult.
Islam has murdered 80 million Hindus, 120 black Africans, 60 million Christians, 10 million Buddhists and 500,000 Jews. One kafir has been killed by Mohammedans every 20 minutes since Mohammed.
This is not a benign religion of peace.
Frank Anderson says
friend mortimer, the estimates we see here on the death toll from 1400 years of islamic conquest range from 250 million to 1000 million dead human beings, or between 1 and 4 people dead every 3 minutes for 1400 years, and rising daily. I have no way for me to verify or contest any of those estimates.
Sarc/on-That’s a lot of dead people for a “religion of peace”, even if it is the lower number.
gravenimage says
So true, Frank. This dhimmitude does not save the victims of Islam.
Michael Copeland says
“incivility of conflict”……..
Conflict is a basic teaching of Islam.
mortimer says
Truly, Islam mandates ‘conflict’ (called ‘jihad’ in the Koran).
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 2:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 3:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 4:71-72, 74-077, 84, 89-91, 94-95,100-104; 5:33, 35, 82; 8:1, 5, 7, 9-10, 12, 15-17, 39-48, 57-60, 65-75; 9:5, 12-14, 16, 19-20, 24-26, 29, 36, 38-39, 41, 44, 52, 73, 81, 83, 86, 88, 92, 111, 120, 122-123; 16:110; 22:39, 58, 78; 24:53, 55; 25:52; 29:6, 69; 33:15, 18, 20, 23, 25-27, 50; 42:39; 47:4, 20, 35; 48:15-24; 49:15; 59:2, 5-8, 14; 60:9; 61:4, 11, 13; 63:4; 64:14; 66:9; 73:20; 76:8.
Michael Copeland says
Memo to the Vatican:
“…then we fight them, and we abduct their women, and destroy their churches —
This is Islam!… Come on! Learn what Islam is!” —
Grand Ayatollah Ahmad Al Baghdadi
to interviewer on Iraq television.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/10/islam-a-permanent-war-institution/
mortimer says
Naïve Pope Francis is swallowing their farm-fresh, hot, steaming taqiyya.
mortimer says
Most Americans disapprove of Islam. Only about 30% of Americans have a favorable attitude towards Islam. Most Roman Catholics I know are not so naïve about Islam as Francis obviously is. Francis is out of step with the majority of his church which mistrusts Islam.
Pope Francis should learn about taqiyya.
Walter Sieruk says
Shame on them even having such a wicked alliance is despicable. This affront by the Vatican,against all that is good decent and right is terrible.
This horrible alliance makes me even more glad ,than before , that I’m a Protestant.
gravenimage says
Alas, Walter, many Protestants are also clueless about Islam, including all too much of the Clergy in Lutheranism and the Church of England.
curious george says
True, gravenimage.
The main difference is that no Protestant denomination has the power, wealth and influence that the Roman Catholic Church does. I think Walter’s point is reasonable, one would expect such a “prestigious” institution to set a better example, not to drink the cool-aid.
That said, what we are currently witnessing are the final steps to creating a One World Religion to accompany the incoming One World Government.
There are those who seem to think that the Roman Catholic Church will be a major player in the formation of both.
Any doubts? We will soon have the answer if Biden wins this election.
I have said and will continue to say… Batten down the hatches, the worst is yet to come.
gravenimage says
curious george, I just meant that the Catholic Church are not the only Christians (and other Infidel faiths) that are snowed by Islam.
curious george says
gravenimage says
curious george, I just meant that the Catholic Church are not the only Christians (and other Infidel faiths) that are snowed by Islam.
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It’s all good. We are in full agreement on this issue.
I think that I posted in the past that Christianity is on the decline here in the USA and the West, along with links to surveys conducted by the Barna Research Group.
I think this is a link that I had posted at an earlier date.
https://www.arizonachristian.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/CRC-AWVI-2020-Release-02_Faith-and-Worldview-1.pdf
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gravenimage says
Thanks, curious george.
somehistory says
This idiot and his idiot boss, wouldn’t have to learn anything about islam to know what the jurk said is wrong.
All they need to do is learn what they claim to know…Jesus Christ, His Heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the “light of Truth” Jesus taught His disciples.
There is one spiritual “Light.” Not a rainbow of colors. One cannot look at a “polychromatic” array and get Truth from it.
Jesus Christ said, “I am the Light of the world.” And,
Jesus said, “If the light in you is darkness, how great that darkness is.”
The “polychromatic” light in these two…the pope and his arch guy is total darkness. They don’t understand what they claim to be representing and they are lying to the people who may look to them for spiritual guidance.
moslims won’t change unless they see a need and want to change. If there are any honest souls who believe that being a moslim is the right thing to do, then they are being helped to believe that by these two fools.
Certainly, they won’t see a need to change, even if they wish to be true servants of a True God. They will continue to believe they are already doing that.
Such willful stupidity is evil. If they can’t speak the Truth, they should just keep their evil mouths shut. But the “darkness” in them is too great for that. They are misleading Christians and they are misleading others who are on the “broad road leading to destruction.”
Gordon Anderson says
The Pope is partnered with Islam to promote a one world religion while minimizing Jesus [God and Satan don’t mix]
CogitoErgoSum says
When the Pope and his cronies partner themselves with Islam they make of themselves allies with Satan. They betray Jesus, and someday, like Judas, they will wish they had never been born.
somehistory says
The Book of Revelation says that enemies of God and His Son will be asking the mountains to fall on them to shield them from God’s wrath. Even that will do them no good. No more chance for turning back and asking forgiveness.
And they must answer to God for every “child” they cause to stumble.
James Lincoln says
I am thoroughly convinced that no amount of factual evidence will convince Pope Francis that islam is *not* a religion of peace.
Unreachable… And unteachable…
Frank Anderson says
James, there is a group of very nice people who enjoy gathering other nice people in a commercial activity. One way they teach each other patience in the process of searching and adding new members is the statement, “Some will; Some won’t; But some will.” Pope Francis is definitely in the “won’t” group or category when it comes to facing, much less telling the truth about the history, practices and goals of islam. All of the time we can spend here will not change that. What can we do to find those who don’t know today, whom we can help learn and join us in the fight to live in liberty?
gravenimage says
Vatican steps up its alliance with Islamic org accused of providing ‘material support’ to al-Qaeda’s 9/11 operation
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Just awful, even from the witless Pope Frank.
Peter WF says
The pope needs to lead by example and settle a few thousand “refugees” in the vatican. The founder of his religion led by example and so should he.