Priorities, priorities. But you see, they’ve got to have them so that they can resume “war crimes hearings at the base’s Camp Justice compound.” That raises another question: why are there still hearings being conducted regarding these men? Way back in 2009 they essentially confessed by publishing a lengthy Islamic defense of their actions. Why are they still waiting to be tried so many years later? Who is protecting them?
“Prisoners at Guantánamo Bay will be offered vaccination, the Pentagon says,” by Carol Rosenberg, New York Times, January 28, 2021:
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has decided to offer coronavirus vaccines to detainees at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, possibly starting next week, according to a prosecutor in the case against five prisoners accused of conspiring in the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
The prosecutor, Clayton G. Trivett Jr., wrote to defense lawyers on Thursday “that an official in the Pentagon has just signed a memo approving the delivery of the Covid-19 vaccine to the detainee population in Guantánamo.”…
Lack of vaccinations has been a major obstacle to resuming war crimes hearings at the base’s Camp Justice compound. It was not immediately known whether the defendants in the Sept. 11 case, including Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, would consent to be vaccinated….
TruthSeeker says
Actually in this one instance I would like to agree with Biden administration. Let them experiment on the Jihadis first by all means.
somehistory says
+10
mortimer says
Not the point at all. The jihadists must get vaccinated to prevent the claim of poor treatment they would assuredly make if one of them became a Covid patient. This prevents them from using the pandemic for propaganda. Some of the people who post on this forum should grow up.
somehistory says
And some people should stop insulting those with whom he disagrees.
The moslims everywhere have refused to allow vaccinations for such things as polio…even killing the medical personnel who were trying to give the shots to kids.
The vaccines have not been proven over time to actually prevent the virus or its new strains. No flu shot has ever really been designed for the “current” strain…it’s all a bunch of guess work.
This vaccine was rushed out and has not had time to be proven by a large number of people getting it.
And you should know, mortimer, that the moslims will complain either way…get it: complain that it will make them sick/die…don’t get it, unfair to keep them from having it…yada yada yada…
So, stop insulting people who post something you don’t like.
LB says
Mortimer, you do realize dozens of people have already died from the vaccine, right? First symptoms showed up almost immediately after administering it, followed by various health complications, organ failures, coma and finally, death. Now you tell me how is that “vaccine” in any way safe?
Developing a vaccine against a particular virus, or its strand, takes YEARS and even DECADES of research on animals before it goes to human testing. And those people usually have no other choice than to bet on it working because it’s their last chance of survival. In this case with corona, the “vaccine” was rushed out after not even a full year of supposed “research”. There’s only two possible reasons for it:
1) It was rushed out for political gain (whoever develops it first wins, or something), which means they will use the entire general population for human testing.
2) The “vaccine” was already in development long before this flu pandemic even started, which means that either they knew it would happen, or the “vaccine” has an ulterior purpose to it.
Whatever the case, you should not administer a foreign substance into your body, that is known for already killing many people, especially not to “cure” a flu that has 99.9% recovery rate. Which is why I agree with TruthSeeker above — let them experiment on the jihadis and keep injecting them with as many dosages as they want. At least that way their miserable lives will serve some purpose to the rest of the world.
GreekEmpress says
Hi LB and somehistory,
Do you have any links to articles for the death rates/severe reactions that I could read?
I’d like as much info as possible.
In my state, among people I know, none of the seniors had severe reactions; oddly, it’s been the 30-50 age group that had the flu-like symptoms for 2-3 days.
Thanks,
GE
somehistory says
GE,
I’ve read the numbers in several places. I’ll try to find one, but my guess is, LB or J.L. will answer you before I can.
I do believe a site I get emails from : Greenmedsinfo.com has the stats, but I’ll look for the email that has them. newsletter@greenmedinfo.com.
It’s a daily, so you may go to their site and find it before I can find the specific one.
I’ll be back.
somehistory says
https://upvir.al/ref/cn52561279
a presentation on the truth, lies, on the v (they are not writing the v word)
There is a video with this:
Where did Influenza go? CDC Data points to possible manipulation.
Sayer Ji discusses the CDC’s COVID and Influenza-Like Illness (ILI) statistics, which indicate that ILI is being reclassified as COVID in the 2020-2021 flu season.
Did influenza-like illness get reclassified as “COVID” this year? The CDC’s own data sure seems to say so. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm
I’ll have to keep looking.
somehistory says
GE,
I found this one on the vaccines:
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/fda-investigates-allergic-reactions-pfizer-covid-vaccine-after-more-healthcare-wo?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20The
I think I found it:
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/search/google-cse#gsc.q=rate%20of%20deaths%20in%20vcovid%2019
Stanford Team Finds Evidence COVID-19 Mortality Rate Is As Low …
Apr 19, 2020 … Stanford Team Finds Evidence COVID-19 Mortality Rate Is As Low as .2% (17 Times Lower Than WHO’s Estimate). Views 47072.
Johns Hopkins Researcher: No Excess Deaths from COVID-19; Official
Nov 27, 2020 … She explained that the significance of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths can be fully understood only through comparison to the number of total deaths in …
COVID-19 Death Recording Manipulation Explained | GreenMedInfo …
Sep 1, 2020 … … Vital Statistics System (NVSS) Vital Records agency have been manipulating COVID-19 death statistics to vastly over-inflate COVID death ..
Hope these help.
gravenimage says
Oh, good grief, Mortimer. The idea that America has to give Jihadists special treatment in order to assure that they can’t whinge about things is ridiculous. Besides, they still bitch about everything imaginable–and many that aren’t.
GreekEmpress says
somehistory,
Thank you very much for the links—
GE
tgusa says
“The jihadists must get vaccinated to prevent the claim of poor treatment they would assuredly make if one of them became a Covid patient. This prevents them from using the pandemic for propaganda”
Say what you want but mortimer is exactly right about that.
tgusa says
They know our weaknesses and use them against us to our detriment.
E T says
Conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy that is what is tossed at anyone who speaks out about the vaccines- – similar to saying anything about Islam. Last week on this site, Rarely called me Typhoid Mary.
Klaus Schwab has repeatedly said, this will not go away until everyone in the world is vaccinated. He is a supporter of the 69 billion dollar vaccine program. He also says we need to continue lockdowns and there will be future viruses – the new normal.
Many doctors worldwide are speaking out about the drugs that can cure people if treated early. Donald Trump, many months ago spoke about Hydoxychloroquine and zinc. Hydroxychloroquine has been used for treating malaria, and other diseases for 65 years. Many, many in the media told their listeners that it was not even FDA approved. Medical journals wrote nasty reviews about it and later reversed their writings, no conspiracy there.
Karry Mullis, the American genius who won the Noble Prize for his work on the Polymerase Chain Reaction, (PCR) technology said the PCR test should NEVER be used to diagnose disease in humans, it is a research tool. He also said “Being a Noble Laureate is a licence to be an expert in a lot of things as long as you do your homework. when everyone treats you like intellectual royalty, however, it becomes easier to pass off mere opinions as due diligence.” He spoke about Anthony Fauci, called him incompetent, said he being at the top, could make or break people in the scientific world.
The Great Barrington Declaration is a good start for anyone interested in further reading. One might also read Dr, Simone Gold, Dr. Delores Cahill, professor of molecular genetics, Dr.Merrit, former military doctor who studied biological warfare. I have read several reports that have been removed from the internet. I keep an eye on what Christian Life Sites have to say and I also read Alex Newman. you can read and come to YOUR own conclusions.
Stalin hated religion, he wanted to keep Christians and Muslims off balance and against each other so that the soviets could easily divide, conquer and rule over both or was that a conspiracy theory?
“The whole world is suffering under the present Global order. The pandemic has only further exposed this. the elites have clearly failed. it is now time for the Muslim Ummah to present how Islam can bring justice and liberate humanity”. Imam Mazin Abdul-Adhim.
Remember the Wiffenpoof song, don’t become sheep.
Stay home
Stay safe
Shut up.
E T says
Just give them all 10.5 million dollars each and let them out, that is the way Justine cares for people who kill and blind people. We all know some people did something is a lie right?
Infidel says
Exactly what I thought. I’m not an anti-vaccer – have taken flu shots in the past (as well as MMR during my green card application years ago), albeit not every year – but in this case, I’m highly skeptical of a vaccine that needs a temperature of -70C to remain stable. I’d rather see what happens in real life field trials, and vaccinating those at Gitmo seems to be a good place to start
On a different note, the muslim countries seem pretty enthusiastic about the Chinese vaccine Sinovac, which failed Brazilian clinical trials. This just brings up the imagery of so many Dilbert cartoons in itself
Isabella van der westhuizen says
Either way we should smear the vaccine bottles in pig fat prior to administration
somehistory says
The death rate for the virus is actually a very low percentage of those who catch it.
There have been several deaths already from the vaccines, which were rushed to production.
There have always been “trials” on willing individuals before the medicine is released to the public at large.
Those of us who have had bad reactions from other vaccines in the past are willing to wait and see how things turn out.
Those who are anxious about getting sick and want to be vaccinated may not agree with the terrorists getting it first.
But the voices from other moslims will ring out loud if things go awry.
E T says
And if they get the vaccine and die, CAIR will demand money or all hell will break loose.
Giacomo Latta says
According to my regional health authority, no one under the age of 50 has died of COVID-19. In the meantime our educational system has self-destructed due to demands for new schools instantaneously if not sooner, kids are arrested and fined for playing in parks, adult-supervised organizations of sports, arts, chess, etc. are put on hold. I’m afraid this next generation of youth, adolescents and young adults is going to grow up twisted or underdeveloped.
E T says
Yes, it is too bad more adults would not follow the fear factor and think about the impact on the children. Mortimer is right, some people who post on this site should grow up. I am older than dirt, and if I get COVID and die, you can bet your I will be singing “I’ll fly Away”.
tgusa says
This is a thank you note from the military industrial complex for what the detainees have done for them. Are they going to give them a box of chocolates too?
Anyone who wants it can have mine. There is no data on the long term effects of this quickly created vaccine and given the establishments tendency to screw things up I just don’t trust them to get anything right. Except for the virus itself that is.
somehistory says
Anyone who wants mine, can have it. I’ve read that a bunch of stuff comes attached as little extras. Bells Palsy is one…isn’t even the worst that comes along…and I’ve had that before. Not pleasant. Many things worse are said to be included as side effects…little bonuses.
We should all be able to decide whether to take it. After all, pelosi just recently said how people…”women” should be able to make “health care choices”…decisions for themselves. (regarding killing the unborn, but hey…goose and gander…) And if they claim that it’s for the “good of the many lives that will be saved”…undoing roe would have the same effect.
So, give the gitmo crew how ever many they want from the 300 m biden has promised by fall…using Mr. Trump’s “warp speed.”
tgusa says
I have friends who have for years asked me, did you get your flu shot yet? I always say, just like I did last year. BTW, I didn’t get one last year or the year before or any year for that matter.
somehistory says
When I was very young, my doctor and I had a discussion about flu shots. After my visit was over, I walked out into the corridor with him and he was still talking to me. A nurse came up and jabbed me in the arm. I gasped and said, “What?”. She calmly said, “Flu shot,” and the doctor took her head off.
I was sick for several months due to that shot. Not making this stuff up, as Dave Barry used to write. That is the only one I ever took.
tgusa says
Wow.
E T says
The Nuremberg papers stated no government could ever demand, mandate anyone must have any vaccine, etc. Or will some people tell us was what the Germans did to the Jews also a conspiracy theory?
PRCS says
Thankfully, that ridiculous plan has been squashed!
So, who dreamed that up in the first place, and why would KSM and the gang have needed the inoculation if all of “our guys” had been?
saturnine says
Willful failure to recognize and accept the motivating ideology leads to eternal wars and apparently eternal trials.
gravenimage says
Biden’s Pentagon to offer covid vaccines to 9/11 jihadis at Guantánamo before many Americans have access to them
…………………..
When there are so many Americans who need the vaccines, this is just insanity. I want the guards and staff to stay safe, of course–but vaccinating the Jihadists there is *not* the best way to keep Americans safe.
E T says
I walk in the fresh air, I no longer bother with people who yell at others for not wearing a mask, I drink green tea, eat a lot of blueberries, fruit and vegetables. In the winter I take Vitamin C, D and zinc. I had the swine flu shot years ago and was sick for weeks – that was my one time shot and my one time flu like symptoms. HA you are what you eat.
I know people have died, people die of the flu every year. Fear kills people. This has been a bad test as far as I am concerned, I am appalled at the outrage some people have shown toward others who do not agree with them. I voted for Doug Ford in Ontario, I have watched police handling citizens who are protesting the lockdowns and yet they knelt with the BLM revolutionary thugs. Why would any government propose snitching on friends, family and neighbours, this is the new version of “If you see something, say something.” Justine Trudeau is clamping down on Canadians, lockdowns, lockdowns, lockdowns, and don’t forget we will Build Back Better.
I recently asked a hysterical girl if she did not think God would protect her. She does not believe in God.
OLD GUY says
Just goes to show how stupid our leaders are. They don’t seem to care about the people who elected them. They take care of criminals and the enemy first, they open the borders to migrants from around the world and provide them with education and free medical care over American citizens, they won’t deport the people who entered America illegally even if they are murders or drug dealers. WHO’S side are they on. Why are we continuing to pay these people who don’t do their job of protecting Americans and enforcing the LAW. Our politicians no ;longer represent the people that elected them. They represent themselves for profit and their ideologies not the wishes of the citizens.
Proud Islamophobe says
While we would love to think that Biden is doing it to ensure their well-treatment, jihadis would starve themselves simply because an “infidel” left a microscopic speck of feces on their toilet when they cleaned it. We would also love to think that Biden is choosing to poison them before poisoning Americans. But the fact is, Biden is stupid, evil, thinks backwards, and is doing everything to destroy the U.S. in as little time as possible.